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GT: WS Game III, Dice-BB vs. "The Dragon Slayer".

Master_shake_tiny by Allen Chace on in Open Thread

Let the good times roll.

Jack Dempsey/AP

  • Story giving background of Josh Fogg being named the Dragon Slayer. Warning: Story uses 'Mike Mussina' as support for the idea.
  • Btw, this is early, I know it's VERY early. I work all day. Boo work. Hooray Beer! (Y'know, only if you're old enough people)
  • Lineups aren't posted, but given this I'll take a guess. (at the end)
  • There's a mini (non) controversy brewing with this whole "should the NL adopt the DH?". Not sure how I feel about it. I think some people have come off pretty arrogant suggesting the NL needs to change it. I'd like them to, because it would help us, but otherwise I can't get too pumped for either side of this issue.
  • I've seen all kinds of permutations of the IF and OF suggested, but I'm guessing playing (Youks in RF/Lowell or PedRoYa at SS/Papi in CF/etc.) were probably never seriously discussed by those whose input matters. (i.e. Me.) If PedRoYa had played at least, say, 10-15 games at SS this season, THAT option might've been kicked around. As it is, it probably wasn't.
  • That's it. Hopefully it'll be busy very early at work and I can sneak out of there to watch the last couple innings with all of you. Go Sox!
  • My lineup guess: 1. Tacoby, 2. PedRoYa, 3. Papi, 4. "Being", 5. Lowell, 6. Drew, 7. Tek, 8. Lugo, 9. Dice-BB
[Update, NHRedsox] Rox Lineup

1. Kazuo Matsui, 2B
2. Troy Tulowitzki, SS
3. Matt Holiday, LF
4. Todd Helton, 1B
5. Garrett Atkins, 3B
6. Brad Hawpe, RF
7. Yorvit Torrealba, C
8. Cory Sullivan, CF
9. Josh Fogg, RHP

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Lineup.
Btw, I still wouldn't be too upset to see this instead of what I think will happen.

Drew, DP, Papi, "Being", Lowell, Tek, Tacoby, Lugo, Dice

Keep the pressure low(ell) on the Bellsbury.

Also, if someone'll post the lineups in the comments when they're available (or in the post, for those who can), that'd be great.

by Allen Chace on Oct 27, 2007 11:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: Lineup.

  1. Kazuo Matsui, 2B
  2. Troy Tulowitzki, SS
  3. Matt Holiday, LF
  4. Todd Helton, 1B
  5. Garrett Atkins, 3B
  6. Brad Hawpe, RF
  7. Yorvit Torrealba, C
  8. Cory Sullivan, CF
  9. Josh Fogg, RHP
Posted By: mvega | Time: 05:42:46 PM | Link | Sound off | E-mail to a friend
October 27, 2007
Red Sox lineup
By Amalie Benjamin, Globe Staff
Pretty much just as expected...

Red Sox

  1. Jacoby Ellsbury, CF
  2. Dustin Pedroia, 2B
  3. David Ortiz, 1B
  4. Manny Ramirez, LF
  5. Mike Lowell, 3B
  6. J.D. Drew, RF
  7. Jason Varitek, C
  8. Julio Lugo, SS
  9. Daisuke Matsuzaka,

by SPOT on Oct 27, 2007 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have to figure
Working in Japan Dice-K's gotta be used to high altitude pitching.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 27, 2007 12:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: I have to figure
Tokyo is similar to Boston, with respect to it's altitude above sea level.   Tokyo is just 59 feet.

Osaka is 49 feet.

I'd heard that they sent Dice-KKKKKKKKKKK out to Denver a day early; anyone else heard that ?

BC14

by BC14 on Oct 27, 2007 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: All those mountain ranges
Well, the Seibu Lions play in Fukuoka, which is also at 49 feet.
BC14

by BC14 on Oct 27, 2007 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chilly Night For Baseball.
But no matter.  If the Sox can jump on Fogg right away, the temps will seem warmer for them.

LET'S GO RED SOX!

BC14

by BC14 on Oct 27, 2007 7:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Game thread?
1.30am in the UK. Mile-high City. Dice-K HR (please) :-)

Go Sox!

by CountyJez on Oct 27, 2007 8:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game thread?
GT=Game Thread

My good omen for the night. I had dinner at a sushi bar wearing my Sox hat. Japanese guys at a table next to me lean over and say "You like Red Sox? We like Red Sox." then go back to speaking amongst themselves (all I could over hear was what I thought was Dice-K's name, it sounded good)

Then one of them did "Fat Bottom Girls" on karaoke. All in all it seemed promising. :)

Lets rock Game 3.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 27, 2007 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tonight's drink
a B-52. Drink words: Apodaca, Mile High Stadium.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 27, 2007 8:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Jacoby
Do we get two tacos if he steals twice?

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 27, 2007 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fox presents...
the super-out of focus cam.

That must be how the umps see the game.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 27, 2007 8:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Why wasn't it ever this loud at the Fens?
For one Rockie stadium is about 2x the size of Fenway.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 27, 2007 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I understand that
by it never seemed like the fans were this pumped up.

by soxaholic on Oct 27, 2007 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: *but
Yeah I'm just making excuses. To be honest I've been irritated that our fans have been so quiet too.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 27, 2007 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: *but
Coors Field also has mics into the stands.   I know this from having spent some time in the KOA Radio booth.

Coors Field sounds this loud when there's 20,000 fans.

And let's face it:  51,000 fans are quite capable of making lots more noise than 35,000.

BC14

by BC14 on Oct 27, 2007 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh Shit
McCarver was giving tips on what to call to 'tek. Lets hope he didn't listen.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 27, 2007 8:57 PM EDT reply actions  

I had thought we were done with the towels
when we 86'ed Cleveland. Stupid towels.
this is not my dot com (okay, maybe it is.)

by dmauer on Oct 27, 2007 8:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Tulowizki
throws a fit at the plate. Dice-K

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 27, 2007 8:58 PM EDT reply actions  

What the hell is McCarver talking about
Sargent Major? Why not just say he's the oh, I dunno, CAPTAIN of the team?

Just my two cents.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 27, 2007 9:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Did anyone else see that sales genie commercial
buy our contact lists to irritate people, don't believe it will help? See this little girl, and if that doesn't do it, PUPPIES!

I officially hate advertising/sales people.

Except for the fine folks to advertise on OTM of course. :)

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 27, 2007 9:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeek!
That coulda been ugly
this is not my dot com (okay, maybe it is.)

by dmauer on Oct 27, 2007 9:15 PM EDT reply actions  

After 2
Dice-K
24 pitches
2Ks, 0BB, 1HBP, 1H

Fogg
39 pitches
2Ks, 0BB, 0HBP, 3H

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 27, 2007 9:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Speedy Gonzalez
gets his second hit of the game, this time a double.

by soxaholic on Oct 27, 2007 9:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Tacoby Bellsbury
Lead off double. Love that Tacoboy

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 27, 2007 9:23 PM EDT reply actions  

PedROYA
with a Hit, Tacoby to 3B

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 27, 2007 9:24 PM EDT reply actions  

BIG PAPI
hits an RBI double. 1-0 good guys.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 27, 2007 9:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Lowell up
bases loaded. Lets do some real damage Mikey.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 27, 2007 9:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Gawd
the Rockies uniforms suck. They look like ninjas with shoulder pads.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 27, 2007 9:28 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm against any uniform
that involves one of those VestJerseys. Tampa Bay, Rockies, who else? Anyway, I'm not exactly Mister Baseball Fashion, but gimme a break with the dumb vests.
this is not my dot com (okay, maybe it is.)

by dmauer on Oct 27, 2007 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

What the hell
Coors field doesn't have a dugout.

Manny was out, but oh well.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 27, 2007 9:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: What the hell
McCarver said it was the wrong call, so I'm inclined to say it was right, even though my lying eyes are telling me otherwise. :)

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 27, 2007 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: What the hell
Now McCarver and Buck have changed their mind. They think it was a good call, so it must have been wrong.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 27, 2007 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: What the hell
Okay there is a dugout. They were talking about the dugout and it's an open field.

Dice-K with an RBI. :)

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 27, 2007 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was safe.
Torrealba never tagged him, and got him only with the glove. - THAT's why he re-tagged him.

Bad call.

BC14

by BC14 on Oct 27, 2007 9:34 PM EDT reply actions  

I really can't tell.
That first tag attempt was close, couldn't be quite sure on any of the camera angles.
this is not my dot com (okay, maybe it is.)

by dmauer on Oct 27, 2007 9:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: I really can't tell.
Terrible angle by the HP ump.
BC14

by BC14 on Oct 27, 2007 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: I really can't tell.
It's a bad call. It's clear the ump called Manny out only after Torrealba got up and tagged him. That means he saw Torrealba miss the tag when Manny slid into home -- and he clearly did touch home.

It's a bad call.

by RSNexile on Oct 27, 2007 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: I really can't tell.
Unless Buck was right, and the ump was waiting to see if the catcher still had control of the ball.
this is not my dot com (okay, maybe it is.)

by dmauer on Oct 27, 2007 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: I really can't tell.
He clearly wasn't waiting to see if Torrealba had the ball. He could see Torrealba had the ball -- he only called Manny out after Torrealba got up and tagged him, and he made the call immediately at that point.

by RSNexile on Oct 27, 2007 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: I really can't tell.
You nailed it.

The delay by the ump and the re-tag by Torrealba point to one conclusion:  SAFE.

BC14

by BC14 on Oct 27, 2007 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: I really can't tell.
Yep.  And see that Torreabla gets up with the ball in his hand, apart from the glove - and immediately applies a tag after Manny's standing up.

BAD CALL, UMP.  Shoulda moved to your right to get the proper angle, and you'd have seen the missed tag.

BC14

by BC14 on Oct 27, 2007 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

RBI for the Diceman!!
now THAT is what I'm talking about!
this is not my dot com (okay, maybe it is.)

by dmauer on Oct 27, 2007 9:35 PM EDT reply actions  

DICE-K!
Helping the cause!
BC14

by BC14 on Oct 27, 2007 9:36 PM EDT reply actions  

That's the kind of at-bat
that warms the cockles of your heart.
this is not my dot com (okay, maybe it is.)

by dmauer on Oct 27, 2007 9:36 PM EDT reply actions  

6-0 Fogg out, Morales in
Tacoby at 2B, Matsuzaka at 3B.

Pedroia up 2 outs.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 27, 2007 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

A google search for "Tacoby Bellsbury"
suggests that perhaps you meant "Jacoby Pillsbury". I see a cinnamon bun campaign in the rookie's future...
this is not my dot com (okay, maybe it is.)

by dmauer on Oct 27, 2007 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sweet bejeezus!
I can't believe Fogg is still pitching!
this is not my dot com (okay, maybe it is.)

by dmauer on Oct 27, 2007 9:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Sweet bejeezus!
Not anymore

Fogg
67 pitches
2.2 innings
10 H, 6R (all earned), 2BB, 2Ks, 0HBP
20.25 ERA

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 27, 2007 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was insane.
And the inning isn't even over yet. Crazy.
this is not my dot com (okay, maybe it is.)

by dmauer on Oct 27, 2007 9:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: GT: WS Game III, Dice-BB
Not for me.  I just made two Chicago-style pizzas.

wooh.

BC14

by BC14 on Oct 27, 2007 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lived in chicago for 8 years
As much as I love Boston, it's impossible to get a Real Pizza anywhere in the northeast.
this is not my dot com (okay, maybe it is.)

by dmauer on Oct 27, 2007 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Lived in chicago for 8 years
Same here in Denver.

We save our pennies and send out (FedEx) for Malnati's or Giordano's.

Between those times, I make 'em myself.  Still working out my recipe, but not 1/2 bad, if I do say so myself.

BC14

by BC14 on Oct 27, 2007 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Lived in chicago for 8 years
There will be soon. I'm moving back to Boston in a few months for work, and I have dozens of great Midwestern pizza recipes. A few Italian and Greek ones, too.

by RSNexile on Oct 27, 2007 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: GT: WS Game III, Dice-BB
Dude - it's "Dice-RBI" from now on!!! ;)
You can take the boy outta Boston, but you can't take the Boston outta the boy.

by B Cap on Oct 27, 2007 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

wasn't it Morales
who shit the bed earlier (Game 1 maybe?)

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 27, 2007 9:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: You might say that our humble ball club
Heh.

Look closely - that's Pete Coors sitting just to the 1st base side, behind home plate.

BC14

by BC14 on Oct 27, 2007 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: You might say that our humble ball club
That's tomorrow night -- there's champagne in those hills!

by RSNexile on Oct 27, 2007 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: You might say that our humble ball club
Is it completely wrong, or only partly wrong that part of me hopes the Rockies take 2, just so the final blow can be dealt down the street, bounced off the coke bottle or something?
this is not my dot com (okay, maybe it is.)

by dmauer on Oct 27, 2007 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: You might say that our humble ball club
Only partly wrong. I'd love to see Beckett on the mound for the final victory, but I think it's blasphemy to hope for a Sox loss for any reason.

by RSNexile on Oct 27, 2007 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: SWEEEEEPPP!
I'll wear my Yaz jersey everyday for a month if they do.
BC14

by BC14 on Oct 27, 2007 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

6-0.
That'll cool off those towel-wavers.
BC14

by BC14 on Oct 27, 2007 9:42 PM EDT reply actions  

I got my two favorite teams in Denver this week!
Red Sox (of course)

and the Packers play the Broncos Monday night!

BC14

by BC14 on Oct 27, 2007 9:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Dice-KKK
In baseball as in life, I could do without the KKK.

by RSNexile on Oct 27, 2007 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Dice-KKK
Dice-KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
BC14

by BC14 on Oct 27, 2007 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Dice-KKK
That's a different story altogether.

by RSNexile on Oct 27, 2007 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Dice-KKKK
Yes.

Understand, it's nothing personal. I've just had some bad experiences with the KKK.

by RSNexile on Oct 27, 2007 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Dice-KKKK
Has anyone ever had a good experience with the KKK? I mean other than the annual pancake breakfast. I hear they serve a mean pancake...and by mean I mean hate-filled.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 27, 2007 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Dice-KKKK
True. But comparatively fewer people have had crosses burned on their lawns. And worse.

by RSNexile on Oct 27, 2007 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Dice-KKK
I don't think that's a nickname you want. Hopefully he'll strike out another one real quick :)
this is not my dot com (okay, maybe it is.)

by dmauer on Oct 27, 2007 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

What a team!
Dice-K working on the win, and getting 2 RBI's for himself.
BC14

by BC14 on Oct 27, 2007 9:48 PM EDT reply actions  

The Dragon Slayer?
You can take the boy outta Boston, but you can't take the Boston outta the boy.

by B Cap on Oct 27, 2007 9:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Soul Brother
Notice that Dice-RBI has the same soul patch growing as Beckett?
You can take the boy outta Boston, but you can't take the Boston outta the boy.

by B Cap on Oct 27, 2007 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Soul Brother
I have a theory about pitchers and facial hair. I'll share it if this game gets dull.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 27, 2007 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Boy does Daisuke look good

well McCarver just said Dice K is pitching with confidence but he also said six runs will give you confidence however in the same breathe McCarver said Dice K was pitching with confidence before the Sox scored the six runs.
I guess like McCarver, I don't have a point. Evening everyone.

Rather late but: Go Sox!!

by MassGal on Oct 27, 2007 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Boy does Daisuke look good
Howdee...did you bring another double to the party?
You can take the boy outta Boston, but you can't take the Boston outta the boy.

by B Cap on Oct 27, 2007 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gah.
I think the towel swinging takes away from the game.
"SK: Hey, imagine what Steinbrenner's statue'll be doing. SO: Cast in bronze with his wallet out."

by mmmsox on Oct 27, 2007 9:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Come now...
Let the poor bastards cheer their team...
You can take the boy outta Boston, but you can't take the Boston outta the boy.

by B Cap on Oct 27, 2007 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Come now...
Unless those towels are wet and snapping, they don't make much noise.  = )

I bet they'd be fun to whack people with.  'Oops, i was cheering and hit you in the face with my towel! So sorry... is that a fuzz in your eye? Here, let me get that for you....(licks finger).'   Man, I'm tired.

"SK: Hey, imagine what Steinbrenner's statue'll be doing. SO: Cast in bronze with his wallet out."

by mmmsox on Oct 27, 2007 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Come now...
They won't be able to do it much longer anyway.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 27, 2007 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Come now...
Very true.
"SK: Hey, imagine what Steinbrenner's statue'll be doing. SO: Cast in bronze with his wallet out."

by mmmsox on Oct 27, 2007 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tee hee.
Check that aerial shot.  I much prefer cozy little Fenway.  
"SK: Hey, imagine what Steinbrenner's statue'll be doing. SO: Cast in bronze with his wallet out."

by mmmsox on Oct 27, 2007 9:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Tee hee.
That's no kidding.  The original plan for Coors Field called for 60,000 seats.  They "settled" on 51,000, wanting that "ballpark" feel.   Snort.

They haven't come close to putting that many butts in the seats all season - for any season - on a regular basis, and only in the last 2 weeks did attendance get near capacity.

BC14

by BC14 on Oct 27, 2007 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Tee hee.
In other words, this is the home of the fairweather / bandwagon fan.

Same with hockey and the Avs.  Empty seats at rinkside, until they get close to season's end and are winning.

Football will always be king in this town.

BC14

by BC14 on Oct 27, 2007 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Tee hee.
In fairness, the Rockies led MLB in attendance their first several years when their team stunk. As Sox fans, we know better than most how difficult it can be to maintain that level of support during a prolonged period of futility.

by RSNexile on Oct 27, 2007 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Tee hee.
Yeah, the Fens only has had consecutive sell outs for a few years now...
I believe I took part in the 330th consecutive sell out.
Woo.  Haha.
Those tickets cost a ton... and it wasn't even any special game, or good seats.
"SK: Hey, imagine what Steinbrenner's statue'll be doing. SO: Cast in bronze with his wallet out."

by mmmsox on Oct 27, 2007 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Tee hee.
Agreed, but I'm not talking sellout crowds here, I'm talking just low-down POOR attendance - i.e.g, 20,000 fannies in a stadium that holds 51,000 is very telling.  
BC14

by BC14 on Oct 27, 2007 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

as long as you ignore
that he was tagged before he got to the plate, I suppose
this is not my dot com (okay, maybe it is.)

by dmauer on Oct 27, 2007 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: as long as you ignore
And so why did the ump wait to call him out until after the second tag? Explain that one, wouldja?

by RSNexile on Oct 27, 2007 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: as long as you ignore
Yeah, I agree - the ump doesn't have the advantage of 3 different camera angles, and super-slo-mo.  
His position was bad, and the delay, and the re-tag... you've got to call him safe.
BC14

by BC14 on Oct 27, 2007 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: as long as you ignore
Also, if you heard what the ump said to Tito -- "if he had gotten the plate, he would have been safe."

Well, he did get the plate.

Blown call.

by RSNexile on Oct 27, 2007 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait, are we
discussing whether the Ump did the right thing given what he could see, or whether Manny actually got to the plate without getting tagged? If it's the former, you're arguing that "hey! The Ump should have given us that call, even if it would have been erroneous!" If it's the latter, the camera showed the glove hit Manny before he got to the plate. Either way, I see no reason to bitch about that call at this point. Especially when we're up 6-0.
this is not my dot com (okay, maybe it is.)

by dmauer on Oct 27, 2007 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Wait, are we
I'm arguing the ump blew the call. In his own words, if Manny had touched the plate, he would have been safe, and Manny did touch the plate. If there was a replay that showed Manny did get tagged before he touched the plate, I didn't see it, but given the ump's angle -- which, admittedly, was the wrong angle to take -- there's no excuse for him not seeing Manny touch the plate because that was in plain view right in front of him. Therefore, it's a blown call.

And 6-0 is hardly a safe lead in Denver.

by RSNexile on Oct 27, 2007 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Wait, are we
Agreed.  Six runs is nothing in Denver.
BC14

by BC14 on Oct 27, 2007 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: GT: WS Game III, Dice-BB
And these idiots are still saying it was a good call.

Look, he waited until Torrealba got up and tagged Manny, then called him out immediately. If it was just a question of seeing if Torrealba still had the ball, he would have made the call before that tag.

Idiots...

by RSNexile on Oct 27, 2007 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK, manny was out
Pretty clear from that angle.
this is not my dot com (okay, maybe it is.)

by dmauer on Oct 27, 2007 9:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Why can't I get amped up more?
This is so much like the 04 Cardinals series in terms of the way I felt after the 04 ALCS....But Im not jumping the gun.

by Matzushocka on Oct 27, 2007 9:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Hi all. Ok, so would you guys rather
finish it off in Colorado, or for once win the WS at Fenway?
"We don't need him"~Curt Schilling on Roger Clemens

by LuXu on Oct 27, 2007 10:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Hi all. Ok, so would you guys rather
I want to crush their unworthy skulls into a bloody mess.

In other words, a sweep in Colorado. Unquestionably.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 27, 2007 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Hi all. Ok, so would you guys rather
SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP!!!!!!
BC14

by BC14 on Oct 27, 2007 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Has it really come to this?
If we win this, it would be only two WS taken home since 1918. That is not nearly enough to be so damn blase about where and when we win this thing!!
You can take the boy outta Boston, but you can't take the Boston outta the boy.

by B Cap on Oct 27, 2007 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Has it really come to this?
Which is why I call for the sweep.

Hoping for a loss by my Sox is 100% illogical.

BC14

by BC14 on Oct 27, 2007 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Amen Brother
You can take the boy outta Boston, but you can't take the Boston outta the boy.

by B Cap on Oct 27, 2007 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Has it really come to this?
Especially to a team that shouldn't even be in the playoffs.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 27, 2007 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let's Go!
Off to a good start.

Look like we can FINALLY exorcise ourselves of the "Curse of Relief Pitcher Curtis Lescanic."

Let's end this 36-month-long drought tomorrow!

by OhYeah on Oct 27, 2007 10:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Rally?
Hell you guys need a resurrection.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 27, 2007 10:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Dice-RBI and Tek
how about a pitch inside to this dude?
You can take the boy outta Boston, but you can't take the Boston outta the boy.

by B Cap on Oct 27, 2007 10:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Dice-RBI and Tek
Helton is putting together one hell of an AB
You can take the boy outta Boston, but you can't take the Boston outta the boy.

by B Cap on Oct 27, 2007 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Dice-RBI and Tek
Ends with Master Dice-K winning the battle.
BC14

by BC14 on Oct 27, 2007 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dice-KKKKK
Youk looks like the Unibomber.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 27, 2007 10:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Hawpe
Otherwise known as Instant-K.

by soxaholic on Oct 27, 2007 10:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Hawpe
For his sake, you almost hope the Rockies have him fake an injury so he can be replaced on their roster before game 4.

by RSNexile on Oct 27, 2007 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Hawpe
Who would you put in?
You can take the boy outta Boston, but you can't take the Boston outta the boy.

by B Cap on Oct 27, 2007 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Hawpe
Hell the mascot's got a better chance.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 27, 2007 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Hawpe
Anyone. Take someone from the stands -- they couldn't do worse.

by RSNexile on Oct 27, 2007 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Hawpe
True...who was their DH pick?
You can take the boy outta Boston, but you can't take the Boston outta the boy.

by B Cap on Oct 27, 2007 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jay Dizzle in on the fun at last
You can take the boy outta Boston, but you can't take the Boston outta the boy.

by B Cap on Oct 27, 2007 10:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Ahhhhhh!!!! The Stupid!
It burns!
You can take the boy outta Boston, but you can't take the Boston outta the boy.

by B Cap on Oct 27, 2007 10:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow.
Some guy saw that hat and said to himself. "I just gotta have a helmet with mountains coming out of the top of it. I don't care if it's 30 bucks."

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 27, 2007 10:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Wow.
Was it McCarver? Because he's dumb enough to do something like that.

by RSNexile on Oct 27, 2007 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Only Mc Stupid...
Would pull Ortiz in the 6th.
You can take the boy outta Boston, but you can't take the Boston outta the boy.

by B Cap on Oct 27, 2007 10:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Apodaca!!
Everybody drink.
You can take the boy outta Boston, but you can't take the Boston outta the boy.

by B Cap on Oct 27, 2007 10:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Ken Rosenthal

I tremendously dislike him; he always seems to talk & write chit about the Sox. That last inning conversation about Lowell annoyed me. Maybe I am a hypersensitive Sox fan but it was as if they are hoping the "Lowell signing elsewhere" scenario comes true.

by MassGal on Oct 27, 2007 10:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Ken Rosenthal
Agreed, though I think that's a foregone conclusion at this point. He'll get bigger and longer offers than the Sox are going to give him, and it's probably his last chance to really cash in.

by RSNexile on Oct 27, 2007 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: GT: WS Game III
I don't understand why Drew would be running there. Two strikes on the batter with one out and no need to run? With the kind of season he and Lugo both had, that's just begging for a double play.

by RSNexile on Oct 27, 2007 10:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: GT: WS Game III
And why didn't he have a foot on second when Lugo hit that? If he didn't have to go back to tag up, he might have been able to advance to third.

by RSNexile on Oct 27, 2007 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: GT: WS Game III
Maybe he's trying to set up the sac fly
You can take the boy outta Boston, but you can't take the Boston outta the boy.

by B Cap on Oct 27, 2007 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: GT: WS Game III
Whatever he was trying to do, it was a dumb move with two strikes on the batter.

by RSNexile on Oct 27, 2007 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: GT: WS Game III
Hawpe has a very good arm, and the ball wasn't all that deep.  
BC14

by BC14 on Oct 27, 2007 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Long inning
Morales must be dying out there..."when is Lugo gonna strike out?"
You can take the boy outta Boston, but you can't take the Boston outta the boy.

by B Cap on Oct 27, 2007 10:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Long inning
It's good, though. The more of the bullpen is used up tonight, the less they'll have available tomorrow night to try to force Beckett to close them out in game 5.

by RSNexile on Oct 27, 2007 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Was Matsuzaka
carrying the bat to 1B? That's so wierd.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 27, 2007 10:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Jinx
Thanks dick.
You can take the boy outta Boston, but you can't take the Boston outta the boy.

by B Cap on Oct 27, 2007 10:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: GT: WS Game III
Is it just me, or did it look like Drew could have caught that had he run hard all the way instead of stutter stepping his way in?

by RSNexile on Oct 27, 2007 10:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: GT: WS Game III
Totally!!
You can take the boy outta Boston, but you can't take the Boston outta the boy.

by B Cap on Oct 27, 2007 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

WTF?
JD?  You coulda HAD that one!  Why the stroll?
You can take the boy outta Boston, but you can't take the Boston outta the boy.

by B Cap on Oct 27, 2007 10:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: GT: WS Game III
Wow! Great job by Lugo to get it and get the ball to third, and great job by Lowell to catch it.

by RSNexile on Oct 27, 2007 10:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: GT: WS Game III
yeah, we'er fielding like the Rox are supposed to be doing.
You can take the boy outta Boston, but you can't take the Boston outta the boy.

by B Cap on Oct 27, 2007 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lugo
Man, we've been raggin' on that guy all year, but he's be really awesome this post-season.  Hitting, covering all the fly balls and hard infield hits.  Hats off.
You can take the boy outta Boston, but you can't take the Boston outta the boy.

by B Cap on Oct 27, 2007 10:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Lugo
And as I kept pointing out the entire second half, he was incredibly unlucky in the first half, with a BABIP of around .200. He hit .280 after the all-star break and finished with a BABIP of .265 on the season, about 50 points below his career average. Had he hit all year as he did in the second half, no one would be complaining. Had his BABIP for the season matched his career average, no one would be complaining.

He'll be better next year.

by RSNexile on Oct 27, 2007 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Lugo
He'll be real force then given his excellent defense and base running.
You can take the boy outta Boston, but you can't take the Boston outta the boy.

by B Cap on Oct 27, 2007 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: GT: WS Game III
I hope that was Dice-KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK's once-per-game bad inning -- a seeing eye single, a weak fly that should have been caught, a weak grounder, and that was about it. He's on his game tonight!

by RSNexile on Oct 27, 2007 10:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: GT: WS Game III
Gotta say...He's been all you could hope for tonight.  I also must admit that I have no confidence in Lester at this point.
You can take the boy outta Boston, but you can't take the Boston outta the boy.

by B Cap on Oct 27, 2007 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: GT: WS Game III
I'm not worried. With a 3-0 lead, it's not a big deal if he has a bad game, especially with Beckett taking the mound in game 5. And if he exceeds expectations and plays well, it'll be a huge confidence booster going into next season.

by RSNexile on Oct 27, 2007 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: GT: WS Game III
He is just rolling along.
BC14

by BC14 on Oct 27, 2007 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

What are they chanting?
You can take the boy outta Boston, but you can't take the Boston outta the boy.

by B Cap on Oct 27, 2007 10:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: What are they chanting?
Hahahahahahahahahaha! [SNARF!] Ow!  Coke through the nose.
You can take the boy outta Boston, but you can't take the Boston outta the boy.

by B Cap on Oct 27, 2007 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: What are they chanting?
Well, that's just rude. And they're supposedly a Christian ballclub, too!

by RSNexile on Oct 27, 2007 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: GT: WS Game III
Ok, here's the plan:

Papi stays in the game for now. Assuming Dice-K shuts down the Rockies in the sixth, Youk pinch hits for Drew in the seventh and stays in the game to play first, with Coco replacing Papi in the lineup.

by RSNexile on Oct 27, 2007 10:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: GT: WS Game III
I do like the idea of Coco in this huge outfield. Clearly Drew has decided he's not going to hustle.

Again, my comments might be informed by my Drew hate.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 27, 2007 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: GT: WS Game III
No, I think you got it right. He should have caught that last one, and he's already committed an error tonight.

by RSNexile on Oct 27, 2007 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: GT: WS Game III
Indeed. This field is just *begging* for Coco to fly across it.
this is not my dot com (okay, maybe it is.)

by dmauer on Oct 27, 2007 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ortiz
with another K. I hate to agree with McStupid and Buck, but why not bring in Youk now? There's likely only 1 or 2 at most ABs. You don't lose much in hitting, and you gain a lot of defense to hold the win with the bullpen coming in soon.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 27, 2007 10:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Ortiz
Because the Rockies could still score a bunch of runs in the sixth.

My plan is better -- keep him in for now, and assuming Dice-K gets through the sixth with no damage, have Youk pinch hit for Drew in the seventh and bring in Coco in Papi's spot in the order.

by RSNexile on Oct 27, 2007 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Ortiz
Well apparently Tito agrees with McCarver and me. I'm going to go vomit now.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 27, 2007 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Ortiz
That was the wrong move, but it doesn't really matter as long as Dice-K gets through the sixth. Although I really, really think it's more pressing to get Drew out of the game at this point.

by RSNexile on Oct 27, 2007 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Ortiz
100% with you. The youk-in-Nome -> youk-on-the-beach transition was amusing.
this is not my dot com (okay, maybe it is.)

by dmauer on Oct 27, 2007 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: GT: WS Game III
I don't know that I've ever noticed it before -- the Sox aren't on very often here in Wisconsin -- but that's a bizarre shimmy Dice-K has in his windup.

by RSNexile on Oct 27, 2007 11:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: GT: WS Game III
My wife is endlessly amused by that. Frequently when he pitches, she'll mention "there's the wiggle."
this is not my dot com (okay, maybe it is.)

by dmauer on Oct 27, 2007 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: 2nd Walk
97 pitches. Closing in on time to get the hook.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 27, 2007 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: 2nd Walk
Yep, but it sure would be nice if he could get through this inning.

by RSNexile on Oct 27, 2007 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

dice k
does hehave more rbi's tonight than the rox this series?

by Matzushocka on Oct 27, 2007 11:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Daisuke done good.
Made it through 5 in fine fashion; I imagine if this wasn't the WS he would still be in the game... but no point in risking it when everyone's rested.
this is not my dot com (okay, maybe it is.)

by dmauer on Oct 27, 2007 11:07 PM EDT reply actions  

well, *maybe* no point...
Why one run makes me nervous I don't know.
this is not my dot com (okay, maybe it is.)

by dmauer on Oct 27, 2007 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Short Leash
Dice has gotten out of these before...
You can take the boy outta Boston, but you can't take the Boston outta the boy.

by B Cap on Oct 27, 2007 11:07 PM EDT reply actions  

J. Lo in
I like the kid, but he makes me nervous.

Lets see how this works.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 27, 2007 11:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: J. Lo in
Apparently for good reason. 6-1. Hell they're partying like it's 1999. Guys it's a single RBI.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 27, 2007 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: J. Lo in
Especially against lefties. Have you seen his splits? Lefties hit .293 against him -- it's no wonder Hawpe was able to hit him when he couldn't otherwise hit the broad side of a barn the size of Colorado!

by RSNexile on Oct 27, 2007 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: When will Francona realize
A week after he realizes Gagme can't pitch, period.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 27, 2007 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ay Caramba
"SK: Hey, imagine what Steinbrenner's statue'll be doing. SO: Cast in bronze with his wallet out."

by mmmsox on Oct 27, 2007 11:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: GT: WS Game III
This is why Papi shouldn't have been removed yet -- we might still need his bat, but he's done now.

by RSNexile on Oct 27, 2007 11:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: GT: WS Game III
We don't need his bat. We need a pitcher who doesn't lob lollipops over the plate.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 27, 2007 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lollipops,
being flat, have very high wind-resistance. Doubt you could hit one past the pitcher, let alone into the outfield.
this is not my dot com (okay, maybe it is.)

by dmauer on Oct 27, 2007 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lopez has to go
now....please.
You can take the boy outta Boston, but you can't take the Boston outta the boy.

by B Cap on Oct 27, 2007 11:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Before we give it all up.
"SK: Hey, imagine what Steinbrenner's statue'll be doing. SO: Cast in bronze with his wallet out."

by mmmsox on Oct 27, 2007 11:14 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm listening to a radio show by David Ortiz...
but not the same one on tv...

this guy has been forcing latin jazz for 2 hours.

i don't understand a word of it... its just catchy.

regardless.... timlin!

"SK: Hey, imagine what Steinbrenner's statue'll be doing. SO: Cast in bronze with his wallet out."

by mmmsox on Oct 27, 2007 11:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Phew!
That was a *close* one.
this is not my dot com (okay, maybe it is.)

by dmauer on Oct 27, 2007 11:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Phew!
Remember the 1996 Series? The Braves won the first two games and had the lead until Mark Wohlers forgot that the object of the game as a pitcher is to keep the other team from hitting the ball over the fence.

I sometimes think that had he not grooved a grand slam ball to Jim Leyritz that the MFY never would have won their four World Series in five years.

by RSNexile on Oct 27, 2007 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

holy crap
My heart was in my throat on that hit.
You can take the boy outta Boston, but you can't take the Boston outta the boy.

by B Cap on Oct 27, 2007 11:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Isn't it nice to not have an idiot on the mound?
Way to go Timlin! Thanks for nothin' Javi.

Nice play Lugo.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 27, 2007 11:20 PM EDT reply actions  

And Lugo WAVES to the crowd!
Hhahaaaaaaaaaaaa

SIDDOWN, folks!

BC14

by BC14 on Oct 27, 2007 11:21 PM EDT reply actions  

NG!!!!!!!!!
its about time for him.

by Matzushocka on Oct 27, 2007 11:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Prisonbreak
Is this show about a guy who has/is in the process of escaping a prison(s) more than once? And if so...Really? People watch that?

by Matzushocka on Oct 27, 2007 11:22 PM EDT reply actions  

God Bless America....
Should I be glad that I was in the bathroom during the last note of GBA?
"SK: Hey, imagine what Steinbrenner's statue'll be doing. SO: Cast in bronze with his wallet out."

by mmmsox on Oct 27, 2007 11:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Ugh.
"SK: Hey, imagine what Steinbrenner's statue'll be doing. SO: Cast in bronze with his wallet out."

by mmmsox on Oct 27, 2007 11:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Yesssss!
"SK: Hey, imagine what Steinbrenner's statue'll be doing. SO: Cast in bronze with his wallet out."

by mmmsox on Oct 28, 2007 12:12 AM EDT reply actions  

Yessss! Again
"SK: Hey, imagine what Steinbrenner's statue'll be doing. SO: Cast in bronze with his wallet out."

by mmmsox on Oct 28, 2007 12:13 AM EDT reply actions  

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