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GT: ALCS Game III: Cleveland Does Not, in fact, Rock.

Master_shake_tiny by Allen Chace on in Open Thread

Since Randy is too busy with his burgeoning radio career, I guess I'll get this one started. :)

Dice-BB Matsuzaka v. Jake Westbrook.

Lineups. No surprises on our side.

Sox.

  • DP, 2b
  • Youks, 1b
  • Papi, dh
  • "Being", "lf"
  • Lowell, 3B!
  • Drew, rf
  • 'Tek, c
  • Crisp, cf
  • Lugo, ss
Clevelands.
  • Sizemore, cf
  • Cabrera, 2b
  • Hafner, dh
  • Martinez, c
  • Garko, "1b"
  • Prealta, ss
  • Lofton, lf
  • Sox-killa, rf
  • BlaKe, 3b
Gametime: 7 Eastern.
  • The only Sock with more than 20 PAs against Westbrook hasn't fared well: Julio Lugo: .641 OPS in 26 PAs.
  • For pre-game chatter: How about this story? It's a couple days old, but interesting nonetheless. I say: Depending on his salary requirements, bring him back if Timlin retires. What do you say?

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Let's Go Sox!
Cleveland does not "rock".

But if necessary, (and I declare that it is) the Sox will ROCK Cleveland.

BC14

by BC14 on Oct 15, 2007 5:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: "Cleveland does not rock"
AAAAHHHH!! My ears!  My ears!  Make it stop!
BC14

by BC14 on Oct 15, 2007 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: What about him?
Close, but no "T".  

He wouldn't be very good in relief, either.  ;^)

BC14

by BC14 on Oct 15, 2007 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Foulke
Can't see it happening. I don't think he was too happy about being booed out of town. I imagine he'll want a fresh start, with a lower profile than he'd get in Boston.
Manny Ramirez is a bad man

by tommy.otm on Oct 15, 2007 6:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Foulke
35 years old?  And with elbow surgery?

I've had similar surgery on my shoulder back in the day (some 20 years ago).  By 35, it was arthritic and I could predict the weather 12-24 hours ahead of it.  And I wasn't planning on pitching at any level.

Pass.  Maybe Tampa Bay would be interested.

BC14

by BC14 on Oct 15, 2007 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pic.
I deleted the Dice picture. No knock on him, just felt it was a long scroll to the comments button.

by Allen Chace on Oct 15, 2007 6:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Pic.
I hope you didn't jinx him :)
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Oct 15, 2007 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Game Three Win Probabilities
The Simulator is giving the Red Sox a win probability of 50.76% and the Las Vegas Hilton Sports Book is giving the Red Sox a win probability of 53.49% in Game #3.  The simulator correctly picked the Indians to win Game #2, while Vegas still had the Red Sox as big favorites.  The simulator is pretty much calling this game a toss-up, while Vegas gives a slight edge to the BoSox.  Either way, should be a good game.   vr, Xei

by Xeifrank on Oct 15, 2007 6:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Three Win Probabilities
For some reason I can't square my appreciation for PECOTA and my annoyance at The Simulator.
Manny Ramirez is a bad man

by tommy.otm on Oct 15, 2007 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Three Win Probabilities
Hey, the simulator predicted the Red Sox to win the World Series before the season began.  Of course it had you beating the Cubs for the title. :)
vr, Xei

by Xeifrank on Oct 15, 2007 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Three Win Probabilities
Sounds good.

What's the success rate on your projections?

Manny Ramirez is a bad man

by tommy.otm on Oct 15, 2007 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Three Win Probabilities
it's been tracking the Las Vegas Hilton Sports Book and after simulating almost every NL West game this year it was trailing LVHS by 1.12%.  So far in the LCS the simulator is ahead by 3% (small sample size).  I don't track the prediction of outright winner/losers of games, because that number will be dependent on how evenly matched the two teams that I am simulating are.  The best benchmark is another simulator doing the same thing (I know of none) or Vegas because they put odds/win probabilities on each game.   vr, Xei

by Xeifrank on Oct 15, 2007 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Three Win Probabilities
I wonder how the geniuses in Las Vegas had the Rockies?

Heh heheheh...

BC14

by BC14 on Oct 15, 2007 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cleveland Does Not, in fact, Rock.
Key to the game...Dice-K going at least 6.  Even giving up 3-4 runs will be manageable as I think we'll score 6-7 runs anyway.  

by sydneysox on Oct 15, 2007 6:50 PM EDT reply actions  

John Clayton?
Paps introuced PeROYa as a "John Clayton" lookalike?
Manny Ramirez is a bad man

by tommy.otm on Oct 15, 2007 7:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: GT: ALCS Game III: Cleveland Does Not, in fact
Go Sox! am in class watching via Gameday.

Please let me know if I miss anything. Thanks.

by MassGal on Oct 15, 2007 7:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: GT: ALCS Game III: Cleveland Does Not, in fact
See, that's why I teach morning classes -- no need to worry about competing with more important things.

Of course, about 1/5 of my students were at the Obama rally today...

by RSNexile on Oct 15, 2007 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice play
Bastards.
Manny Ramirez is a bad man

by tommy.otm on Oct 15, 2007 7:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Julio!
Nice play, snagged it behind 2b and threw across his body
Manny Ramirez is a bad man

by tommy.otm on Oct 15, 2007 7:20 PM EDT reply actions  

67 degrees in Cleveland
Hopefully to cold for the midges
Manny Ramirez is a bad man

by tommy.otm on Oct 15, 2007 7:24 PM EDT reply actions  

"too cold"
Manny Ramirez is a bad man

by tommy.otm on Oct 15, 2007 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Snap.
Manny Ramirez is a bad man

by tommy.otm on Oct 15, 2007 7:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Mike Lowell
breaks up the no-hitter.

JD DP?

Manny Ramirez is a bad man

by tommy.otm on Oct 15, 2007 7:32 PM EDT reply actions  

: Cleveland Does Not, in fact, Rock.
Alright, a BB and single.  Looking good...

by sydneysox on Oct 15, 2007 7:32 PM EDT reply actions  

C'mon Tek
Worst possible outcome (aside from a triple play), pop-up to shallow left.
Manny Ramirez is a bad man

by tommy.otm on Oct 15, 2007 7:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Grrr....
Weak groundball, DP
Manny Ramirez is a bad man

by tommy.otm on Oct 15, 2007 7:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: GT: ALCS Game III: Cleveland Does Not, in fact
What's up with "signature behavior"? I've never noticed it before. I'm going to try "sticky."
Manny Ramirez is a bad man

by tommy.otm on Oct 15, 2007 7:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Umps not paying attention?
Did you see that?

Westbrook, with his foot on the rubber, licks his fingers, throws the pitch, then the DP ground out.

I'm just sayin...

BC14

by BC14 on Oct 15, 2007 7:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: GT: ALCS Game III: Cleveland Does Not, in fact
I got caught doing that once...  be careful.  My professor wasn't a baseball fan!
BC14

by BC14 on Oct 15, 2007 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: GT: ALCS Game III: Cleveland Does Not, in fact
Of course, in my day, I was using a transistor radio.

Raise your hand if you know that that is.  8^)

BC14

by BC14 on Oct 15, 2007 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: GT: ALCS Game III: Cleveland Does Not, in fact
Funny guy.

Actually, we do have one of those in the living room!

BC14

by BC14 on Oct 15, 2007 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

"we do have one of those"
Us too. I much prefer analog vs. digital sounds, snap, crackle, pop and all.
Manny Ramirez is a bad man

by tommy.otm on Oct 15, 2007 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: GT: ALCS Game III: Cleveland Does Not, in fact
I knew it I knew it when they didn't score..not freaking out or hitting panic button BUT I knew Dice K would give up runs after they squandered that chance

by MassGal on Oct 15, 2007 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Watch it
They'll think yu're really perturbed by a particular holding and ask you what you're thinking.
Manny Ramirez is a bad man

by tommy.otm on Oct 15, 2007 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Watch it
This Con Law prof is his own best audience. I don't think he realizes we are even here.

by MassGal on Oct 15, 2007 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Watch it
Be glad it's an evening class.

My ConLaw prof was ... a... very...slow...and...quiet...speaker....and.. my ... class ... was ... held...at... 7.... in.... the....morn....ing.

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

BC14

by BC14 on Oct 15, 2007 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Watch it
I had a Mathematical Analysis prof like that. Nothing like mathematical models at 7am to make you beg for some Starbucks.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 15, 2007 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: GT: ALCS Game III: Cleveland Does Not, in fact
To the tune of Cleveland Rocks....All the Cleveland chicks with bats like sticks lick crimson sox...crimson sox.

I hope that makes that little ditty more bearable over the next 8 inning.

by SPOT on Oct 15, 2007 7:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Christ
Lofton goes yard
Manny Ramirez is a bad man

by tommy.otm on Oct 15, 2007 7:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Christ
it cracked me up when people on the Yankee board called Lofton "old man" they must have forgotten they had 45 yr old Rocket on the roster

by MassGal on Oct 15, 2007 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Drew was about 6 inches short of that
Ellsbury would've had it
Manny Ramirez is a bad man

by tommy.otm on Oct 15, 2007 7:49 PM EDT reply actions  

"another" great play
Man, I'm just full of typos
Manny Ramirez is a bad man

by tommy.otm on Oct 15, 2007 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cleveland Does Not, in fact, Rock.
Bummer, that's o.k., its only 2, we can get that back no problem.

by sydneysox on Oct 15, 2007 7:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Buck channels Yoda
"went around did Lugo"
Manny Ramirez is a bad man

by tommy.otm on Oct 15, 2007 7:54 PM EDT reply actions  

bc 14
what about them Eagles?

by SPOT on Oct 15, 2007 7:58 PM EDT reply actions  

bc?
thought it stood for the #3 ranked Boston College Eagles

by SPOT on Oct 15, 2007 8:02 PM EDT reply actions  

#3?
I had no idea. Pretty good.
Manny Ramirez is a bad man

by tommy.otm on Oct 15, 2007 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

WOW
That was filthy. Nice k to end it dice

by SPOT on Oct 15, 2007 8:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Dice at 60 pitches thru 3 innings
Not good. Westbrook is at 35 - we've got to start hitting him, soon.
Manny Ramirez is a bad man

by tommy.otm on Oct 15, 2007 8:13 PM EDT reply actions  

TIME
PAPI MANNY LOWELL. PAPI LEADOFF DOUBLE!!!!

by SPOT on Oct 15, 2007 8:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Damn
Papi just got hit by Manny's grounder.

by soxaholic on Oct 15, 2007 8:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Lowell
does the hit and run thing.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 15, 2007 8:21 PM EDT reply actions  

"a little screwball"
are they talking about the gyro or are they talking about Dice-K.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 15, 2007 8:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Bench Drew; bring in Jacoby
Francona needs to put Ellsbury in right field.  Drew is now 1 for 10 with RISP.  He may be great next year, but this season has sailed, let's put in Ellsbury, he couldn't possibly be any worse, and he may very well bring the spark the Sox offense needs right now.

by dave in CT on Oct 15, 2007 8:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Ells for Coco
As bad as Drew is at the plate, Coco is much worse
Manny Ramirez is a bad man

by tommy.otm on Oct 15, 2007 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Ells for Coco
At least coco provides defense.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 15, 2007 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Ells for Coco
You think?  For some reason, Coco seems marginally better to me, though my impression could be wrong and frankly, they both are black holes right now.  The 6,7 and 8 guys are dead ends.

Ellsbury for Coco might be good too.

by dave in CT on Oct 15, 2007 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

The 6,7 and 8 guys are dead ends.
Don't forget 9.

Drew at least "should" be good, and I hold out hope that at some point he'll hit a double or something. Coco just sucks. GB to SS after GB to SS.

Manny Ramirez is a bad man

by tommy.otm on Oct 15, 2007 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: 1,2,3 from Dice
Thank god!  I was beginning to think he wasn't able to do that anymore.

by dave in CT on Oct 15, 2007 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

come on sox, come alive
So far this game is looking like a lot of games during the season where the Sox made mediocre pitchers look brilliant.

by dave in CT on Oct 15, 2007 8:37 PM EDT reply actions  

exactly
quote from my brother-in-law (a Tigers fan):

"They're making Westbrook look like Nolan f'in' Ryan."

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 15, 2007 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

The power of mass suggestion
Okay everybody, let's use the power of mass suggestion and simultaneously will Francona to put Ellsbury in ... the collective force of our thoughts will compel him like one of those robots in Naked Gun and he'll do it ...
This offense needs a spark plug and Jacoby's the man.

by dave in CT on Oct 15, 2007 8:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Is it necessary to remove the camera
from the game to hear this GM stuff? I mean couldn't we just hear it? Is it that important to see dingus boy in his new brown suit?

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 15, 2007 8:44 PM EDT reply actions  

6-9
Check these Post-season OPSs (not including a collective 0'fer tonite)...

Drew - .444
Tek - .381
Coco - .616
Lugo - .578

Manny Ramirez is a bad man

by tommy.otm on Oct 15, 2007 8:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: 6-9
Yikes.  Why even bother sending them out, after Lowell we should just concede the next 1.1 innings ...

by dave in CT on Oct 15, 2007 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Alternatively
we could all will an injury on Drew, so Ellsbury is sent in to replace him.  But that would be mean.  I gotta remember these are human beings, dammit.

by dave in CT on Oct 15, 2007 8:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Here comes another run
Amazing play by D-Ped!  Too bad it wasn't a dp, it was so close.

by dave in CT on Oct 15, 2007 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

REPLAY
I wanna see that 1B play.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 15, 2007 8:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: I think he was safe
He was.  Somehow, all of these runs feel unnecessary, I don't think the Bosox bats are going to come alive tonight.

by dave in CT on Oct 15, 2007 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: I think he was safe
I will throttle you in your sleep if you jinxed us.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 15, 2007 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: I think he was safe
No jinx.  Just sensing it from the looks on the Sox players' faces.  We need a spark, we need a shakeup.  Bringing in ellsbury might do it, I dunno.

by dave in CT on Oct 15, 2007 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: I think he was safe
preachin' to the choir. And I wouldn't throttle you, I'd just hold the pillow over your face until you stopped moving.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 15, 2007 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: REPLAY
by an 1/8th of a step. On the up side, DAMN Scrappy!

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 15, 2007 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Geez...
I go to get a bowl of stew and some bread, and you guys let 2 more runs score?

What the hey?

Sox bats better wake up.  This is looking like a high-scoring affair, and I'd prefer that the Sox participate, plus.

BC14

by BC14 on Oct 15, 2007 9:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Gah.
This is depressing. Sox need to turn this around.
"SK: Hey, imagine what Steinbrenner's statue'll be doing. SO: Cast in bronze with his wallet out."

by mmmsox on Oct 15, 2007 9:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: GT: ALCS Game III: Cleveland Does Not, in fact
It's not over right? Man this is killing me. What happened to stepping your game up in the playoffs!?!?

by 3000miles on Oct 15, 2007 9:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Garko swings
like a dizzy special olympian.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 15, 2007 9:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Garko swings
TIMLIN!  Man am I wishing Francona kept him in another inning two days ago.
Okay Sox, 4-0, that's not bad, we can overcome.  Big guys coming up.

by dave in CT on Oct 15, 2007 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good K!
Now bring in Ellsbury!
BC14

by BC14 on Oct 15, 2007 9:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Youk
way to actually do something Youk! Time for the Papi and Manny variety show.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 15, 2007 9:12 PM EDT reply actions  

YOUK!
Let's get something going here!

So far the Sox have made this guy look like a Cy YOung candidate

BC14

by BC14 on Oct 15, 2007 9:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: YOUK!
two on for Manny on a BB to Papi

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 15, 2007 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cleveland Does Not, in fact, Rock.
O.k., that's the 4 runs the Indians are gonna get, Now its time for our offense.

by sydneysox on Oct 15, 2007 9:16 PM EDT reply actions  

"just outside"
by a foot...
Manny Ramirez is a bad man

by tommy.otm on Oct 15, 2007 9:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Westbrook...
losing his control.
BC14

by BC14 on Oct 15, 2007 9:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Cleveland Does Not, in fact, Rock.
wow, they are really being cautious with papi and Manny knowing once they get past Lowell the outs will come.

by sydneysox on Oct 15, 2007 9:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah that's right ump
Guys got 400+ homers and he doesn't know where the K-zone is. Whatever.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 15, 2007 9:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: GT: ALCS Game III: Cleveland Does Rock.
Just making sure we're all in accordance.  I'm not saying it's unfair going either way.  It's like the guy is drunk.  Let's just use Questec the rest of the way.

by Matt in LA on Oct 15, 2007 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ya
Strike 1 was a foot inside
Manny Ramirez is a bad man

by tommy.otm on Oct 15, 2007 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: GT: ALCS Game III: Cleveland Does Rock.
You mean, strike zoneS.  He's got several, so far.
BC14

by BC14 on Oct 15, 2007 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fellers,
the Sox are in a heap o' trouble.
BC14

by BC14 on Oct 15, 2007 9:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Fellers,
Do you bring back Beckett for game 4 if we lose, so maybe he can throw in game 7 if needed?

by sydneysox on Oct 15, 2007 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would
but Tito is too loyal to his vets. That's why Ells isn't starting.
Manny Ramirez is a bad man

by tommy.otm on Oct 15, 2007 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Fellers,
If this game is an "L", there's no question about JB for Game 4.  
BC14

by BC14 on Oct 15, 2007 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Fellers,
I would.  Like Tiant in '75.  How many days rest is that?

Francona's already emphatically said Wake is pitching game 4, so I doubt he'll change his mind.

by dave in CT on Oct 15, 2007 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

ACK.
Now bring in Ellsbury.  Please.

by dave in CT on Oct 15, 2007 9:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: ACK.
$10 says Tito is:

a) wetting his pants
b) frozen with indecision right now.

BC14

by BC14 on Oct 15, 2007 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: GAGNE TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!
No, Cleveland needs 8 more runs before that can happen.
BC14

by BC14 on Oct 15, 2007 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: GAGNE TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gagne is Canadien. His English pronunciation is Calvin Schiraldi.

by SPOT on Oct 15, 2007 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

WHERE IS GAGNE?
A Red sox nation turns it's lonely eyes to you  coo coo choo

by SPOT on Oct 15, 2007 9:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: GT: ALCS Game III: Cleveland Does Rock.
If I hadn't heard a word of commentary, I would assume it's a foregone conclusion that Beckett is going tomorrow.

by Matt in LA on Oct 15, 2007 9:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Ellsbury for Drew
NOW Tito! It's probably too late, but do it anyway.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 15, 2007 9:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Ellsbury for Drew
Give him a shot at (hopefully) 2 at-bats.
BC14

by BC14 on Oct 15, 2007 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Anyone else impressed with Timlin's work?
Doing his job.  Zero runs.

In the meantime, one of the most potent offensive teams of 2007 has exactly 4 hits in 6 innings.

No support.

BC14

by BC14 on Oct 15, 2007 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Anyone else impressed with Timlin's work?
Yes.  He has sure turned things around this season, one of the comeback stories.

by dave in CT on Oct 15, 2007 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Joe
we always have a chance with Borowski on our side

by SPOT on Oct 15, 2007 9:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Please!
Don't make me go to other blogs and eat humble pie.

by SPOT on Oct 15, 2007 9:35 PM EDT reply actions  

THE CAPTAIN!!!
By the way, my wife predicted this HR ... she's staying up for the rest of the game ...

by dave in CT on Oct 15, 2007 9:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: THE CAPTAIN!!!
As you suffocate me?  Hm, a plot is starting to emerge ...

by dave in CT on Oct 15, 2007 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Captain!!!!
I'll take it! (and 3 more now please!!!)

by 3000miles on Oct 15, 2007 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Westbrook
CHOKE! CHOKE! CHOKE! CHOKE! CHOKE!

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 15, 2007 9:38 PM EDT reply actions  

BS
Horrible call

by SPOT on Oct 15, 2007 9:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: BS
So whatever happened to the overhead cam?
BC14

by BC14 on Oct 15, 2007 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Umpire's wondering why Coco swung...
... at that pitch.

Well, ump, when you call them 1' outside, it becomes necessary.

BC14

by BC14 on Oct 15, 2007 9:40 PM EDT reply actions  

grrrrrrr
To mad to type

by SPOT on Oct 15, 2007 9:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Gotta think
they'll pull Westbrook after this.
BC14

by BC14 on Oct 15, 2007 9:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Gotta think
And I was thinking he was out AFTER the inning.

Way to go, CoCo!  COME ON, SOX, POUND THE BULLPEN!

BC14

by BC14 on Oct 15, 2007 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Gotta think
Yep.

Now pound the bullpen!

BC14

by BC14 on Oct 15, 2007 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hustle!
Chase this guy, chase this guy!
BC14

by BC14 on Oct 15, 2007 9:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Come on Lugo
Silence these towel-waving pinheads ... YES!

by dave in CT on Oct 15, 2007 9:42 PM EDT reply actions  

RUN
RUN LUGO RUN!!!!!!!

by SPOT on Oct 15, 2007 9:43 PM EDT reply actions  

10 pm start for
the NLCS game on the east coast ... nuts

by dave in CT on Oct 15, 2007 9:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: 10 pm start for
Yeah, and it's COLD in Denver.  46 right now, calling for a low of 34.
BC14

by BC14 on Oct 15, 2007 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

RUN
WE NEEED A RUNNER IN SCORING POSITION,IF HE'S OUT WE START NEXT INING WITH THE TOP OF THE LINEUP.....RUN FORREST RUN

by SPOT on Oct 15, 2007 9:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: While Lugo utilizes his speed
at least he could have done a little dancing to mess with the rookie's mind a little.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 15, 2007 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: While Lugo utilizes his speed
I don't get it - Martinez doesn't have the best throw to 2nd...
BC14

by BC14 on Oct 15, 2007 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Still amazes me
to watch Okaji staring down at the ground when he pitches.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 15, 2007 9:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Still amazes me
The Far East's answer to El Tiante.
BC14

by BC14 on Oct 15, 2007 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Still amazes me
I'm worried that someday someone will clock him with a line drive when he's staring at the ground ...

by dave in CT on Oct 15, 2007 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sizemore
made my heart skip for a second there.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 15, 2007 10:01 PM EDT reply actions  

I sense...
... a power outage by the Indians.

LET'S GO SOX - POUND THAT BULLPEN!

BC14

by BC14 on Oct 15, 2007 10:02 PM EDT reply actions  

BIG GUYS COMING UP.
This is it.  Time to kick ass

by dave in CT on Oct 15, 2007 10:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: BIG GUYS COMING UP.

We need a rally!! I'll try to dream up a rally because I have to turn in now.

Go Sox!!

by MassGal on Oct 15, 2007 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not good.
Am I allowed to say F@#$!!!!!!!!   ?

by 3000miles on Oct 15, 2007 10:13 PM EDT reply actions  

No.
Manny Ramirez is a bad man

by tommy.otm on Oct 15, 2007 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

dang
Bad luck.  Papi hit it well.

by dave in CT on Oct 15, 2007 10:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Manny pops it up
An utterly pathetic showing by the bats tonight.

by soxaholic on Oct 15, 2007 10:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Betancourt
owns us.  Where did he come from?

by dave in CT on Oct 15, 2007 10:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Betancourt
I know he was a Bosock at one point.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 15, 2007 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Betancourt
"He is a converted shortstop with a metal plate and six screws in his pitching elbow."

Hey!  He can't do that!  That's 2 screws over being classified as a mechanical arm!

BC14

by BC14 on Oct 15, 2007 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Betancourt
He's owned everyone this season.  We haven't been singled out in particular, aside from being the only other AL team still left in the postseason.

by Allen Chace on Oct 15, 2007 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Powerless.
You know, base hits, strung together, win games, too.

We don't need every batter swinging for the fence.

BC14

by BC14 on Oct 15, 2007 10:15 PM EDT reply actions  

There's still Lowell
and they're probably gonna put Blownsaveski out there. There's still a chance.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 15, 2007 10:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Crapspackle.
The strike zone has been absolutely comical tonight, but fact is, the Indians have pitched very well. Let's just hope they decide to throw Borowski in the 9th.

by Allen Chace on Oct 15, 2007 10:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Crapspackle.
I still have to wonder if 'Blue' is wondering why they're swinging at the low, and the outside.

Gee, I wonder...

BC14

by BC14 on Oct 15, 2007 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Lowell, Drew, Tek & Coco.
It's time for Drew to earn his keep.  Step up big guy.

by dave in CT on Oct 15, 2007 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: LET'S GO!
4 RUNS!  EVEN BETTER!
BC14

by BC14 on Oct 15, 2007 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, if nothing else,
MDC, Oki and timlin did their jobs damned well.

by dave in CT on Oct 15, 2007 10:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: well, if nothing else,
That's for sure!   I was fearing that mid relief would be the scary part.... but Dice-K needed better control.  Otherwise, the Sox are leading this thing, or it's 2-2 right now.

Dang it.

LET'S GO RED SOX!

BC14

by BC14 on Oct 15, 2007 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

BOROWSKI
BLOW ANOTHER SAVE!  COME ON, SOX!  POUND THIS GUY!
BC14

by BC14 on Oct 15, 2007 10:30 PM EDT reply actions  

As someone said above,
let's play some small ball, get some hits.

by dave in CT on Oct 15, 2007 10:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: As someone said above,
Yep.

How many times have we seen home run swings?

BC14

by BC14 on Oct 15, 2007 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Drew
looks like he quit 4 innings ago.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 15, 2007 10:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Drew
Ellsbury, Game 4.
BC14

by BC14 on Oct 15, 2007 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Drew
I'm not sure that's fair. He fouled off a few, and if he doesn't swing at that last pitch it'd be called a strike by this umpire anyway.

by Allen Chace on Oct 15, 2007 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Drew
I typed that before he took a swing. The look on his face was "okay let's get this over with."

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 15, 2007 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Drew
He always looks like that.

I heard a quote from Orel Hershiser where he said that, basically:

Your better players in the postseason are the ones who treat it like any other game, not the ones who get amped up. You can't tell me Drew isn't exactly that kind of player.

by Allen Chace on Oct 15, 2007 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lame, lame lame.
This is a tough-hitting team?

COME ON RED SOX!

BC14

by BC14 on Oct 15, 2007 10:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Commander kick ass
is on the top step, looking angry.  Good.  Now please use him in game four, Francona

by dave in CT on Oct 15, 2007 10:34 PM EDT reply actions  

That's the game
Hopefully the Sox will show up at the stadium tomorrow.

by soxaholic on Oct 15, 2007 10:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, Sox need to win next 2, I think.
One win in Cleveland won't be enough.  

Sox don't look sharp at all.

BC14

by BC14 on Oct 15, 2007 10:38 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm not worried.
I guess that's the luxury of a 7-game series but it doesn't feel like the end, not by a long shot.  We are going to win this thing.  We're coming back tomorrow.

by dave in CT on Oct 15, 2007 10:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: I'm not worried.
I'm more concerned with the the Sox are not doing, as opposed to what the Indians have done.  They don't look all that impressive, to be quite honest.

Sure, they've won the last two, but the Sox have been empty uniforms in those 2 games.

I still think that (given the peformance so far) that the next 2 are 'Must' games.

BC14

by BC14 on Oct 15, 2007 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: I'm not worried.
On the other hand, I'm seriously worried.

It's going to be Wake tomorrow, and whoTF knows who shows up.

We're too patient a team for Paul Byrd, I think.

Am I being pessimistic? Sure. But I didn't feel like the momentum (if you believe in such things) shifted after Game 2, but I do feel like it has now.

by Allen Chace on Oct 15, 2007 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: I'm not worried.
For some reason I feel like the momentum shifted midway in game 2 but cleveland has now peaked.  We're flat on our backs and due for a comeback.  I think our guys are going to be pissed after tonight and the fire will return to their bellies.
The pressure on Francona to put in JB is going to be huge.

by dave in CT on Oct 15, 2007 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: I'm not worried.
Relax. You're sounding like the typical Sophoclean tragedy Sox fan. Saturday's game was TIGHT until Gagne went and screwed it all up.

Today was a problem, but it's one game. I'm not wild about Wake (but I'm guessing he will be plenty wild for the both of us) tomorrow, but I still think Byrd is toast. But could we please replace Drew already? If we lose tomorrow I'll get worried. We came back from a 3 game deficit in '04 we can certainly handle 2-1.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 15, 2007 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: I'm not worried.
It being tight is why I don't think the momentum shifted in Game 2. I feel like we had the pitching matchup tonight, and Westbrook (credit to him) pissed all over that. I'm not confident we have the pitching matchup tomorrow.

I'm feeling like we'll see Game 6 in Boston, Carmona v. Schilling, with the Clevelands up 3-2.

by Allen Chace on Oct 15, 2007 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: I'm not worried.
I don't think Sabathia and Carmona will be pushovers a second time.  We're gonna need some really good pitching here on out.

by dave in CT on Oct 15, 2007 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: I'm not worried.
Yep.  This is a blip.

And funny you mention Sophocles, he was in fact a Sox fan.  Though they were the Red Thatchy-Sandal-looking things back then.

by dave in CT on Oct 15, 2007 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Westbrook...
Yep. And on top of that, Cleveland had just six hits.

SIX.

Great job by the Bullpen, no doubt about it.  That is a bright spot in an otherwise dismal outing tonight.

BC14

by BC14 on Oct 15, 2007 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Crapola
Three game changing moments -
  1. Bases loaded in the 2nd, no outs. Tek pops out, Coco DPs.
  2. Blown ball four call to Manny. Wouldv'e loaded the bases with 1 out for Lowell.
  3. Blown ball four call to Coco after Tek's HR. Momentum killer after Coco goes down.
But Dice K stunk. He looked good striking people out, but 4 runs and 90-odd pitches through 4.2 stinks.
Manny Ramirez is a bad man

by tommy.otm on Oct 15, 2007 10:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Crapola
And powerless at-bats for the Sox.
BC14

by BC14 on Oct 15, 2007 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup
But on that front, I tip my hat to Westbrook. Pitched the game of his life. Pitched like Wang should have in the ALDS.
Manny Ramirez is a bad man

by tommy.otm on Oct 15, 2007 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Yup
Boston     IP  H R ER  BB SO HR ERA
Matsuzaka  4.2 6 4  4  2   6 1  7.71
Timlin     1.1 0 0  0  0   2 0  0.00
Okajima    1.1 0 0  0  1   0 0  0.00
Delcarmen  0.2 0 0  0  0   2 0  6.75
BC14

by BC14 on Oct 15, 2007 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Yup
  Cleveland   IP  H R ER  BB  SO HR   ERA
Westbrook    6.2  7 2  2   3  2   1   2.70
Lewis        0.1  0 0  0   0  1   0   5.40
Betancourt   1.0  0 0  0   0  1   0   0.00
Borowski     1.0  0 0  0   0  0   0   0.00

Only 4 K's... but the early DPs hurt, and not putting some hits together.

BC14

by BC14 on Oct 15, 2007 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Yup
I had a feeling he was going to pull a career game out of his ass tonight.

I have no idea about Wake tomorrow.  Nothing would surprise me.  He could be shelled or he could shut them out.

I'm still hoping Francona will reverse himself and put in JB though.  As I'm sure the entire eastern seaboard is hoping.  (well except for a certain well-lit island ...)

by dave in CT on Oct 15, 2007 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Beckett tomorrow?
Or will Tito stick with Wake?
BC14

by BC14 on Oct 15, 2007 10:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Was just thinking...
... how awful it felt in 2004 to be down 3 games to none....

This isn't over by a long shot.

BC14

by BC14 on Oct 15, 2007 10:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Rain in the forecast for tomorrow
A rain out might not be the worst thing in the world.  
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Oct 15, 2007 11:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Rain in the forecast for tomorrow
Little chance of a rainout.

Did you see the weather in Denver yesterday?

By game time, it had been raining for nearly 24 hours, temps were in the low 40s (ended up in the mid 30s by the end), and it was as close to snow as you could get.

There's too much money in these games to call it on weather.  Doesn't mean it couldn't happen, but it would have to be a LOT of rain to get it postponed;  though I wonder if a day off would help the Sox regroup.

BC14

by BC14 on Oct 16, 2007 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

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