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Them Are Fightin' Words, Johnny

Wow, Johnny Damon. Way to kick the gut, and step on the face of Red Sox Nation.

I just finished watching Damon's press conference as the newest member of the New York Yankees. Let me tell you one thing: I'm angry.

Damon is proud to be a Yankee, according to Damon himself. He's proud of the tradition, and he's proud to be on a team with Derek Jeter, Alex Rodriguez and even Bernie Williams. Oh how easily he forgets about guys like Jason Varitek, Trot Nixon and David Ortiz.

Not only did the Yankees kiss his ass, but they kissed Michelle Damon's ass too! The most annoying woman ever to be associated with the Boston Red Sox is now going to be pampered like a Queen in New York. The first thing that Yankees General Manager Brian Cashman did was give Michelle 18 roses to welcome her to New York. Why? What did she do? Did she hit two home-runs (one being a grand slam) in game seven of the 2004 American League Championship Series? Or maybe Cashman gave her the roses because he knows she wears the pants in the relationship.

Damon said a few things that really stuck out in my mind. The first thing he said is that he's happy to be in such a "great" lineup. The Yankees do have a great lineup, huh JD? Considering the Sox led the league in runs this year. And last year. Oh, and the year before. But hey, the Sox lineup doesn't even compare to the Yankees', right?

He also said that it wasn't all about the money because the "mystery team," as he called them, offered more years and money, but he thought the Yankees have a better chance of winning. Yeah and if winning is everything, then let's just go play for the team that hasn't won the World Series since 2000. Oh, wait, though. I forget about the Red Sox who won just two seasons ago in 2004. Doesn't matter, though, right Johnny?

There was one more thing he said that just fried my nerves the most. He said, and I quote: "That team is dismantling." And, of course, he means Boston.

It may be true that we've dropped some mainstay players that have made a name for themselves in Boston, but the fact remains that the Boston Red Sox aren't about the players. It's about the "B" on the hat and the fans in the stands. And that's what Damon played for. It was obvious. He loved the fans and he loved playing for Boston. It shouldn't matter about who is or isn't on the team, because he knew that even if he went 0-for-4 and made two errors in the field, we weren't going to boo him. We loved the guy - no doubt about that.

We loved how he sacrificed his body out in centerfield and how he would lay down perfect bunts to keep the Sox ticking. We loved watching that long hair bounce up and down while he chased after fly-balls, and soon seeing his cap fall to the ground behind him. His personality, though, is what made him a fan-favorite.

Contrary to Bill Mueller, who was also a fan-favorite, Damon was loud and always gave his opinion. Most of that time his opinion was about the Yankees and, as we all know, it was never anything positive about them. But that's a big reason why we liked him. Some players won't even touch the rivalry subject, while Damon grabbed it with both hands and fed us, the fans, with quotes we wanted to hear.

Wear those pinstripes, Johnny, and kiss the ass of every person with any relation to the Yankees. It doesn't matter to me, personally. You could start a boy-band with Jeter and Rodriguez for all I care.

I hope your $13 million dollars love you, because Sox fans don't. And trust when I say this: you're going to regret everything.

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I wanted to vomit
He makes me freaking sick...what a puke.  Hey Michelle, enjoy it because I am sure he will cheat on you too.  I din't see the press conference but heard about the roses...what a pussy Cashman is...

Why do they always have to slap the Red Sox on the way out the door?

by cblesz on Dec 23, 2005 2:46 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

extra mil
You guys didn't hear?  Damon gets an extra million a year to kick Boston in the collective ass.

by jlistf on Dec 23, 2005 3:04 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

RE:
Apparently. And then another 500,000 to just talk bad about Boston.

by Randy Booth on Dec 23, 2005 3:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Easy guys
Whats done is done.  Damon took the money, and I think Red Sox Nation should take the high road on this one.  Lets not focus on the past, the betrayal, how poorly hes going to perform in New York, how his "new look" sucks, etc, and start focusing on our own team.  Remember, we still need a centerfielder and SS, Ramirez still wants out, and we have too many starting pitchers, and we need to improve our bench (BTW, we just signed Flaherty to a 1 year deal to back up Tek).

I've always known that Boston fans are more classy than Yankees fans, so lets show it.

by forage on Dec 23, 2005 3:10 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

RE:
We're going to show it. I just think Damon backed out in a very unclassy way. He'll regret it, and we'll move on.

Reed? Gathright? Michaels? We've got some decisions to make...

by Randy Booth on Dec 23, 2005 3:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Did you see..
...the comments by Johnny Damon's father saying that the Red Sox made a huge mistake and that this is akin to the Babe Ruth incident?

Wow, where can I buy all this (over) confidence?

by A Red Sox Fan in Hawaii on Dec 23, 2005 5:28 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

have you seen his Yankee stadium photo?
I am truly sick to my stomach.  Are the Sox sleeping again, though?  If freaking Toronto snags Glaus...I will be pissed.  We cannot let THAT bat in our division...we will be looking at 4th place.  Very ugly offseason.  Oh, Lucchino is on vacation in SanDiego and Henry visiting familt.  Think Theo would be on vacation???

by cblesz on Dec 23, 2005 5:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Any of his new best buddies show up?
Were any of his best buddies there?  ARod, Giambi, Jeter?  I alos believe he wanted this hoopla being as he loves the spotlight.  YOu think there would have been this much press if he quietly re-signed with the Sox?  Would have been a blurb on ESPN News and a brief press conference.  This way, look at the photos, he is king for a day!  Freaking Boras...did you see him?  What a scumbag pig...I hope he gets herpes and a long, painful death disease and rots in hell.

by cblesz on Dec 23, 2005 5:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Is it really about money?
Really guys?  The money isn't that different from what the Red Sox were offering, and I'm sure they would have counter offered.  

Could it be that management is in turmoil at the moment, and just simply dropped the ball, so to speak?  

by Chanaud on Dec 23, 2005 7:40 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Hey Anonymous hero...
Go FUCK yourself...you are a complet asshole Yankee fan pretending to hate the Yankees.  If we feel this way, we are entitled to...so I repeat...go FUCK yourself, asshole.  Go over to the Yankee blogs, jerk.  You seemed to have blown your cover..."In 08 and 09 the Ynakees are going to be trotting OUR roster..."

You are full of shit...get lost, asshole.

by cblesz on Dec 23, 2005 7:58 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

management DID fall asleep...
I am not mad at the Yankees...I am mad at the Red Sox management.  Specifically Lucchino.  But, Anaonymous hero...we ARE PISSED AT DAMON for this specific quote..."I cannot play for the Yankees"  5-1-05...mlb.com.  It is about money, which I understand, but we feel backstabbed right now.  So I repeat (Anonymous hero oops I mean Yankee fan), go FUCK yourself.

by cblesz on Dec 23, 2005 8:01 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Nasty Thread
Damon is saying some nasty things about the Sox and sucking up to the Yankees and their fans.  It's hard not to see this is a pretty unclassy thing to be doing, given how he talked the other way around.

The Sox knew how much they wanted to pay for Damon.  The Yankees wanted to pay not just more, but a lot more.  Damon went for the money.  I don't hold that against him.  I don't hold it against the Yankees (though I get vexed when Yankees fans pretend that their success is some inherent quality of the organization rather than them having double the payroll of the #2 team).  I don't hold it against the Sox.

The Yankees overpaid.  Damon is a good player, a star, but not a $13 a year for the middle of his 30s star.  The Yankees' advantage is that they can repeatedly overpay like this and not cripple themselves.  Even the Sox, with MLB's second highest payroll, must be more cautious than that.

by NinetyNineTails on Dec 23, 2005 8:55 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

whatever Anonymous...
I guarantee I am more educated than you, you jackass.  But, if you feel I am uncomprehendible...let me make it very clear and I will speak s-l-o-w-ly...you are an utter jackass.  Go back to your Yankee blogs and circle jerk with the rest of them.  By the way, you say the Yankees will have an old team in 2008?  Gee, what do you think they will do to overcome that?  Hmmm...maybe throw a ton of money at the best available free agents...

And, jackass, your quote "hey, I hate the Yankees as much as the next guy"...duh, ummm.

Hey RANDY...block this jackass...he's being a typical Yankees fan...acting like it is HIS RIGHT to have his owner PAY for the best players...Hey Anonymous...GO FUCK YOURSELF...are you hard of hearing?  This is a Red Sox blog...if we want to spew venom, bitch, moan, hate Steinbrenner, ARod, Jeter or think Cashman is a bitch in man's clothing and hate every jerk-off Yankee fan, we have the right to do so...if you have a problem with it, go bitch on your sites.  This is a place for us to vent.

by cblesz on Dec 23, 2005 10:48 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Maybe take a spelling class...
Hey anonymous...payrolls:

NY Yankees: $215 million
Red Sox: $124 million

As you think I am uneducated, that is a difference of....hmmmm $91 million???  Hmmm, ya think that gets you some better players?

Yankees paid $34 million in luxury tax to the Sox $4 million.  Maybe it is you that needs a refresher course in math.  Wait, I hear your Mom calling, it's bedtime...

by cblesz on Dec 23, 2005 10:52 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

RE:
Hey everyone, I know this is a heated issue and that we've got a lot of different opinions flying around, but I'd like to ask everyone to just keep the profanity to a minimum. We're all intelligent fans and we don't need to go to that level.

So please just refrain from using profane words. This is a family website. Thanks in advance.

by Randy Booth on Dec 24, 2005 12:06 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

If some people weren't trolls
trying to piss us off, the profanity wouldn't be needed Randy.  We have intelligent discussions about the issues until a Yankee fan comes a trollin' and acts like a jerk...

by cblesz on Dec 24, 2005 12:25 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

now we're all morons
Very, very eloquent Anonymous.  Sounds like comments from a highly educated person.  Alright, I have had enough of you.  The Yankees are great, OK?  Now, just leave.

by cblesz on Dec 24, 2005 1:00 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Why?
"I know that Yankee fans are classy with a few exceptions. But sox fans are rude, jealous obnoxious people with a few exceptions."

Your "Holier Than Thou" attitude is getting old, and I certainly don't appreciate it. This is a statement you can't possibly prove, and its not even worth debating. Labeling a very large group of people as "rude jealous obnoxious people with few exceptions" hardly gives you credibility, or an invitation for enlightened conversation.

If Sox fans are all the things you say they are, why bother spending any more time at OverTheMonster.com?

by Matt Rivers on Dec 24, 2005 12:10 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Well put Matt...
Just leave Anonymous...your arguments don't hold water.  BTW, I think it was your fans that booed Jeter when he was in that awful slump...Jeter...the face of your franchise.  And if I remember, your fans also booed Giambi.

We will not cheer Damon.  Reason being that he lied.  It is OK to go for the highest money, but when you say, "I could never play for the Yankees", then turn around and sign with them, ya think the fans might be pissed.  Then, he bad mouths the franchise while in NY.  He will get booed and that is just too bad...deal with it.  He gave away his legacy in Boston when he signed with the enemy without batting an eye.

Hey, if some firm wanted to pay me that much more, I would go too.  But it is the way he went about it.  Enjoy his pop-up sally throws from center field...he is a great lead-off hitter but you really did not improve an arm over Williams...I could go from 1st to third on him.  There, I have said my piece.  By the way, do you realize there is a Yankee blog?  It can be found at pinstripealley.com...go there and enjoy your $$$ team and fans.

by cblesz on Dec 24, 2005 12:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

yankees fans class
with all the yankees fans talk about "class"...do any of them remember which stadium had to bring out the riot police to protect the players a couple of years ago???

by flynn19 on Dec 24, 2005 1:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

manny and damon
I heard on ESPN that Manny told Damon to go to NY...If Damon is letting Manny make his decisions for him, I guess he isn't as much of an individual as we thought he is...Also I think some of us are more disappointed than mad, we thought Damon was more like Varitek than like Arod...guess we were wrong...He IS replaceable

by flynn19 on Dec 24, 2005 1:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

RE:
Manny's a cancer. It's really becoming a problem at this point.

by Randy Booth on Dec 24, 2005 5:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

RE:
Best comment of the thread :)

by Randy Booth on Dec 24, 2005 5:04 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yankees fans ..
You call Booth's rant "bitter, hysterical and frantic teenage girl-like screed," however, what the hell is this mess you just posted?  You are the single reason Red Sox fans can't stand a certain group of Yankee fans known as "ignorant Yankee fans."  Personally, I do in fact hate the Yankees, and how they run their business.  However, I respect them for their history and enjoy good banter between Yanks fans.  However, you are clearly ignorant.  Saying the Yanks are going to win the World Series?  That is completely off base.  I'll give you two reasons why the Sox will not suck, as you have them portrayed as doing.  Pitching and Defense.  Offense is not everything.  The Yanks certainly have a better line-up at this point, but it is also not even January.  The off-season is not close to being over.  But right now, I'd certainly take the Sox's pitching staff over the Yanks, and their D (assuming they get Reed and a defensive minded SS, or maybe without them).

by Sturgeon on Dec 24, 2005 10:41 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Uh duh
Hey Anonymous...maybe you ought to read the thread.  Reason I wrote uncomprehendible is in reference to your comment of "ignorance extends to being uncomprehending"...makes no sense.  hence, the word, uncomprehendible.  Gee, if you would like to have a grammer runoff or spelling contest, we could do that.  As soon as your shift is done at Burger King, let me know.  We can get together then.

Shallow Yankee fan..."hey, hows yous guyz doin'"

by cblesz on Dec 25, 2005 1:37 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

RE:
I love the comments, but it's gotten to the point where Annonymous Hero is gaining a bad reputation -- and no one actually knows who that is. And other Anon. Hero's are also getting a bad rap.

So if the Yankee fans (or anyone else for that matter) that have been sprouting would like to continue posting on OTM.com, then please register a screen name. But at this point I am going to take annonymous commenting off but, maybe, it will be turned on soon in the future.

by Randy Booth on Dec 25, 2005 9:35 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

yeah, but 2004 is a lot closer...
than 2000!

Anonymous Hero, you make me laugh! In one post you actually sound intelligent and your thoughts are clear. However, you turn around and make a blunder like you did.

I'm not saying 26 rings is worse off than 2, but I can manipulate any number I want to come up with the argument I need.

The Red Head

by the red head on Dec 27, 2005 7:57 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Geez
Wow. There's a lot of macho bravado flying around here. Here's an objective summary--I'll try to avoid any Red Sox bias.

In short:
The Yankees have a better line-up than the Sox now--and they probably still will on opening day. The Sox have trouble filling out a lineup card, but the season is still months away. In truth, the Sox may have a bumpy '06. However, they may do very well. I personally think the Sox future is far brighter over the next 4-5 years than the Yankees.

While the Yankees have won 26 WS, that doesn't mean that they are the best team in baseball. They haven't been since 2000. They have a great line-up, but their pitching is suspect. It would be presumptuous to expect last year's fill in's to do as well. If RJ does well and Mussina stays healthy, they'll do well. I would expect NYY does about as well as last year, around the 90-win mark.

To the Yankees fans:
No one here has any problem with a true NYY fan, especially if they're knowledgeable. Intelligent debate & discussion is why we come here. The reason that Yankees fans are often reviled is because they pop up to say "We've signed your favorite player, na na na!" without anything intelligent to say. More than any other team in professional sports, the NYY are a worldwide bandwagon.

Red Sox fans have their own issues, but after 86 years of "wait 'til next year" that tends to happen. We're getting over it. Our biggest problem is our local sports coverage which holds a player roast every week. NY has the same problem in that regard, but there's a more pompous arrogance rather than a defeatist attitude (thanks Shaughnessy, Edes).

And history is only great as long as you're winning. Players don't come to a losing club because it has a great history.

"You know you're having a bad day when the fifth inning rolls around and they drag the warning track." - Mike Flanagan, Baltimore Orioles pitcher, 1992.

by SoxDevil on Jan 2, 2006 10:24 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

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