Aaron Cook, Injuries, And Expectations
There was a time when Aaron Cook averaged almost 200 innings a year. From 2006 through 2008, Cook crossed the 200 inning threshold twice, averaging 197 per year over the stretch. Throw 2009 in, and it's still 187 innings per year over four seasons. He was productive, too, posting a 116 ERA+ despite under four strikeouts per nine, thanks to his extreme groundball tendencies.
He hit the disabled list a few times during those four years: an oblique strain in 2007 cost him 48 games, while a 2009 right shoulder strain landed him on the DL for 31 contests. Generally, though, Cook was healthy and more than competent, despite the tough environment of Coors Field.
Things have gone completely downhill for him since, as Alex Speier discussed last week:
"This is the first offseason that I've had in about two or three years where I was completely healthy and I was able to do all the work I needed to do," said Cook.
Two offseasons ago, in an effort to counter a turf toe issue that hampered him in the 2009 season, he felt that he dropped too much weight (down to what Rockies observers at the time thought was a rail-thin 200 pounds). In 2010, his season was ended by a Joey Votto line drive that broke his leg and the recovery process left him unable to build up his legs for 2011. He also dealt with shoulder inflammation that restricted his ability to build arm strength in the offseason. Then, early in spring training, he broke his finger, an injury that impacted his feel for the ball all season.
Cook's downward injury spiral might have reached its end, since for once he didn't spend the winter recovering from one malady or another. Then again, spring training hasn't happened yet, so there's still time for yet another appendage to give out before the real season begins.
Cook has mostly had weird injuries throughout his career. While his throwing shoulder has had a few issues (including thoracic outlet syndrome eight years ago) it's never been a re-aggravation of an injury -- just the usual wear-and-tear that occurs to a pitcher who has over 1,300 innings in the majors under his belt. The thing is, he always seems to get these weird injuries -- turf toe, broken fingers, fallout from being hit by liners -- and they always cost him significant time.
Is he frail or unlucky? Maybe it's a bit of both, as quoted above. Baseball Prospectus's injury projection system, affectionately nicknamed "CHIPPER," forecasted Cook as being pretty likely to miss at least 30 days last season based on his history, and that was before the spring training finger fracture that ended up messing with his year.
Healthy Cook has produced above-average results. Unhealthy Cook has struggled a bit more, but it's been almost entirely due to an increase in walks. His groundball rates (and ground-to-fly ratios) have been very consistent, whether he's feeling good or not, and his strikeout rates have actually risen over the years. If being healthy and feeling good helps him keep consistent and strong throughout the year, maybe we see his walk rates drop back to where they used to be, resulting in the above-average Cook of old. He has a contact-heavy approach, but with Dustin Pedroia, Adrian Gonzalez, and possibly a good bit of Nick Punto in the field, that won't be an issue -- last year's Red Sox ranked 11th in the majors in turning groundballs into outs, and should be able to play Cook's game again this year.
If that were to happen, the Red Sox would actually have a pretty good starter on their hands already, and for the grand total of $1.5 million. If Cook is healthy, he'll likely be on the major league roster, and any issues surrounding his multiple opt-out dates might never even come up -- it's not like he's going to choose to leave if things aren't going well for him, so this could be pretty win-win for the Red Sox.
Of course, there's no guarantee Cook is going to be healthy. It's been one thing or another for years now, and he's averaged just 162 innings a year since 2006 (and 144 innings per year since he became a full-time starter in 2004). But for the cost, given the upside, Cook could turn out to be a much better signing than many -- including me -- gave it credit for when it happened.
It's a roll of the dice, but considering the Red Sox can attempt to make a trade later (and employ the likes of Vicente Padilla and Alfredo Aceves), seeing if Cook can make it through spring training with all of his fingers and toes attached isn't a bad plan. It's one that hasn't worked out for the Rockies the last few seasons, but unlike Colorado, Boston isn't throwing $10 million down per year to bet on his health. Given Cook turned down guaranteed deals to pitch with Boston, you have to think he's betting more heavily than the Sox this time around.
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I keep my fingers crossed for Cook's upside
However, I am not as optimistic about the SS and 3B defensive upside. I think it is a liability at this point; esp. without Scutaro and Lowrie – who backs up Youk when he is injured?
"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry, you know anything that travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?" - Crash Davis
Honestly
Aviles/Punto is a defensive upgrade on Scutaro/Lowrie. Lowrie was not good at all defensively at shortstop. Aviles isn’t great, but he’s serviceable there.
Whoever backs up Youkilis when he is injured will probably be better defensively at this point than Youkilis.
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by Marc Normandin on Feb 7, 2012 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
I meant Lowrie backing up Youk at 3B - I should have clarified -and I was comparing Scutaro to Punto
I was happy with Scutaro at SS – I mean when you say Punto is better than Scut defensively – how much? If it is an upgrade than of course I am happy – but losing Lowrie to backup Youk has me more concerned.
"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry, you know anything that travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?" - Crash Davis
To be fair
Lowrie was pretty likely to not be healthy when the Sox needed Youkilis to be replaced due to injury, anyway. I don’t know if there is an answer on the roster right now (besides Aviles moving to third if necessary), but we’re also talking about a small number of games where this is a necessary worry.
There are only so many roster and 40-man spots to fill, and while “player who can back up Youkilis” is certainly something that merits a spot, it isn’t a huge deal with Aviles around, as well as Punto (and even Iglesias on the 40-man at Triple-A, should they need an emergency back-up for a week or two).
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by Marc Normandin on Feb 7, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
Ok, that is fair enough I cant debate that at all as Lowrie seemed fragile
But, Punto and Youk I do not see as defensive stalwarts and if one or both go down we will bemoan the defense on that side of 2nd – it might make Jeter and A-rod look good
"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry, you know anything that travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?" - Crash Davis
I wished they traded him when the picked up Gonzo
Youk is one of my favs but he should be at 1B now and that is not happening
"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry, you know anything that travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?" - Crash Davis
Youk missed 40 games last year and 60 the year before
The Sox should bank on backing him up for a good amount of time
"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry, you know anything that travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?" - Crash Davis
Also, Scutaro had a reliable and consistent bat and Punto is a 2b guy? I feel like you are being overly optimistic
My concern is we know what Scutaro can do in a Sox uniform
"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry, you know anything that travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?" - Crash Davis
No, we don't.
Scutaro has had his nagging injuries turn into serious injuries. I wouldn’t have bet on him for 2012.
by abbreviatedman on Feb 7, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
He missed plenty of time last year
But played through the nagging injuries in 2010 and had almost 700 PAs. He has only been a starter for the last three years. Dave may be comparing him to Punto. I would count on Scoot for more PAs considering Punto has been a utility guy for so long. Luckily Nick won’t have to be the everyday starter and he and Aviles can split the workload pretty evenly.
Can’t say I have a ton more confidence in Punto’s health (as a starter) than Scutaro. At any rate it’s probably not a gigantic fall-off between the three guys.
by The Name is Dalton on Feb 7, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
But your point is taken
On Scoot. I wouldn’t have counted on him for 150+ games.
by The Name is Dalton on Feb 7, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
Looking at Fangraphs Punto played about the same number of innings at 2B, 3B, and SS. Around 2,000-2,100.
Agree on Scutaro. I don’t think the slight upgrade in his defense makes up for the bigger downgrade in offense even with our great offense. But on the other hand, their thought process possibly was that they watned someone with a little more range to make up for Youk at 3B. Or, it could’ve honestly been a salary dump to get a starting pitcher at some point.
by The Name is Dalton on Feb 7, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
Those are all good comments from abbrev & Dalton
I like the thought about range. Off topic but related – as nice as it is to have Gonzo – Youk is now a liability at 3B as opposed to Beltre and Youk at the corners.
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It might-could-should be that
Punto is a better defensive SS than Scoot and the Jedi, and Aviles is better than Jed and a comparable hitter who is also made for Fenway. Punto is a superior defender. So Jed and Scoot are ultimately =/< than Mike and Nick, considerably less when adding in Ross, an undervalued Sweeney, Bailey, and a SP to be named later. Considering this and Speier’s pieces on 2012 Cook and and a rebuilt Padilla’s throwing 95mph, and I’m starting to like Ben a lot.
Won't it be fun to watch if all of Ben's bets pay off...
… unlike watching all of Theo’s upside guys implode?
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I hadn't thought of it like that before...
… Lowered Expectations = Greater Joy + Less Disappointment + Probably No Abhorrent NESN Hip-Hop Commercials. This could be a shrewder offseason than I previously thought.
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by nuthinboutnuthin on Feb 7, 2012 5:57 PM EST up reply actions
Well, that was a concern I had last offseason.
We were becoming the “Yankees” by trading for Gonzo and signing Crawford… we were “buying” the best pieces on the market (though, not much to help the pitching… which did look damn deep at the time).
So, really, there was no where to go from there but down.
Yeah, right now… I feel like we’re not good enough to make the playoffs. If they prove me wrong? Even better.
I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.
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Would the ranking in defensive ability be something like:
Punto-Scoot-Aviles-Lowrie?
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by nuthinboutnuthin on Feb 7, 2012 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
That seems fair to me
Further breakdown, into tiers:
Punto, Scutaro/Aviles, Lowrie
Aviles isn’t Scutaro, but he’s probably closer to him than any of the others.
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by Marc Normandin on Feb 7, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
If I was going to make a Made For TV movie about the life and times of Marco Scutaro...
…I would cast Mike Aviles to play him. That’s how similar those guys are.
Scutaro is MUCH more selective...
…hardly ever swings at balls. That’s a huge difference between the two. On the other hand, Aviles would likely provide more power than Scutaro. I’d take the patience over the power though, esp. on this team.
by UltimateCranston on Feb 7, 2012 4:57 PM EST up reply actions
For argument purposes only
Rdrs/yr (# runs above or below average saved per year), RF/9 and Rtot (Total Zone)
For the aforementioned quartet
Scutaro: -16, 4.03, 5 (928.2 Innings)
Lowrie: -15, 3.87, 1 (398 Innings)
Aviles: 197, 3.76, 9 (91 Innings)
Punto: 273, 3.38, -8 (61 Innings)
Aviles and Punto have appeared to be very good at saving runs at SS but those are very SSS so take them with a grain of salt. Range-wise its about a wash
thanks for that I still think Scutaro is the man - he got dumped to free salary...
initially I thought for Oswalt or Jackson….now, it seems to dump salary.
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If the money never, ever gets used
Then this is fair. But there’s a lot of season and potential trade opportunities ahead for Boston. Last year’s team got stuck shopping for half-dead bargain starters due to a lack of flexibility.
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by Marc Normandin on Feb 7, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, I know I am frustrated and you are correct they are being careful to get the best they can
Also, Scutaro was a known at SS and now there is a question mark at SS and Youk aging at 3B with two seasons of injuries. I am not implying that Scut was an all-star but he was a good all around SS that helped the Sox.
And, starters 4-5 are a little sketchy at best
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I know I'm more optimistic than most about the 2012 rotation
It feels very alone over here. :-(
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by Marc Normandin on Feb 7, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
If it helps, I hope you're right...
… I’m just not sure I believe you are.
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by nuthinboutnuthin on Feb 7, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
Same here...
I’m starting to buy in… gradually… Cook and Padilla could pan out. Aviles could have a break out year as the starting SS. Bobby V could motivate a very talented team to play just a little harder…
I mean, after all… with the way this weekend went, I need something to focus on positively in our immediate future.
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I'm a believer
in Bard and the Rotationettes.
by abbreviatedman on Feb 7, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
Well, I can't until I see them produce
I picture bard’s arm falling off and the rotationettes being craptastic as they have to face the AL East lineups.
"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry, you know anything that travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?" - Crash Davis
yet with that said, if the Cook gamble pays off then there is big upside
I want the Sox to succeed but until I see the fruit of Cherrington’s labors I will not say in Ben we trust
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by Marc Normandin on Feb 7, 2012 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
After reading this
I am cautiously optimistic that Cook could be a good option so long as he can stay healthy. Admittedly, I didn’t know as much about the guy as the others.
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Yeah, same here.
Good article.
I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.
Wait ’til THIS year!
Maybe we'll get lucky...
The components of TPM are less of a problem for me than other things (B-A-S, Scoot, 60% of a proven rotation). They’re lottery tickets. Lottery tickets are potentially awesome, if you’re willing to absorb the lost $ 4.00 or so per ticket and the benefits are gravy. I’m just worried that the Red Sox are banking on them to buy food and pay rent in 2012.
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by nuthinboutnuthin on Feb 7, 2012 5:54 PM EST up reply actions
Or hire an arsonist...
… to fraudulently torch one of their luxury beach houses? Casa De Lackey?
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by nuthinboutnuthin on Feb 7, 2012 5:58 PM EST up reply actions
If Cook and Maine can stay healthy
the two of them together can make the rotation merely mediocre, instead of ohgodwhy.
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