Thursday Red Sox Notes: Ross Ohlendorf, Bobby Jenks, And Theo Epstein Compensation
Ross Ohlendorf signed with the Red Sox instead of accepting other offers, and, according to Alex Speier, it's because Ohlendorf wanted to pitch for a team that will compete. Given he has been in Pittsburgh since 2008, it's hard to argue with that. Ohlendorf isn't guaranteed to be a part of the major league roster, but Boston has him signed to a minor league deal, and he has an option remaining. He also has just over three years of service time, so the Red Sox have him under team control through 2015 if they so choose.
Speier notes the similarities between Ohlendorf's situation and that of Alfredo Aceves last winter:
In that sense, his addition by the Sox on the cusp of spring training harbors some similarities to the signing last February of right-hander Alfredo Aceves. Both are former Yankees with options left; both were coming off of disappointing seasons that were derailed by injuries; both offered flexibility as starters or relievers, with the roster flexibility of a minor league option and the longer-term flexibility of remaining under team control for a significant stretch.
The same idea came to mind in early December, when I wrote about how Ohlendorf, by virtue of being hurt in the past, was likely to slip through the cracks and sign a minor league deal, a la Aceves:
This injury might keep someone from giving him a legitimate shot at a rotation spot, in the same way Alfredo Aceves was scooped up late into last off-season's game due to a history of back trouble. That worked out well for Boston, as they were rewarded for their risk-taking with 90-plus innings and a player still under team control ... He won't be Aceves, by any means, but he is someone who could do a better job in spot starts than anyone else the Red Sox currently have at Triple-A.
While the Red Sox have boosted their depth considerably since that writing, it's likely Aaron Cook and Vicente Padilla will both have jobs in the majors, and Carlos Silva can opt-out as soon as mid-April should he not be in the bigs. John Maine is likely to relieve, Andrew Miller is not one to be relied upon -- even if his talent merits additional chances -- and Alex Wilson is no guarantee to be ready to step in should the need arise. Ohlendorf gives them another pitcher who has succeeded against major league hitting in the past. While they might not want him in the rotation every day, he's a worthwhile depth acquisition, and someone who is certainly capable of spot starts or short rotation stints if necessary.
His flyball rates are a bit worrisome, but he induces lots of weaker flyballs of the infield variety as well. The homers are a real thing for Ohlendorf when the ball does leave the infield, but 2011 makes that seem more problematic than it is, too, since he just never got right from a health perspective. He's no worse than Wakefield usually was in terms of homers per nine, a fact that's either calming or alarming depending on how your memories shape themselves.
Switching from the porous defense of Pittsburgh to Boston's highly-capable squad should help him out, though, as should being another year removed from the initial shoulder problem. If not, then, like with John Maine, this is why minor league deals exist: to take risks that won't cost you.
If you want to read about Ross Ohlendorf The Person, a Princeton graduate, in more detail, check out Tim Kurkjian's wonderful feature on the pitcher and his senior thesis from 2009. His thesis focused on the June amateur draft, and the return on investment from bonuses paid out to picks. I'll see about hiring him to analyze here if the pitching thing doesn't work out.
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Gordon Edes and the rest of the Boston beat down in spring training all noticed something today: Bobby Jenks looks slimmed down. This isn't some "best shape of his life" spring training tripe, either. Seriously, look at Jenks, in a picture from a January story on him in the Boston Globe:
via www.boston.com
He's still a big dude -- he's Bobby Jenks, after all -- but he's not, well, this Bobby Jenks:
That could be a good sign for both Jenks and the Red Sox in 2012, once his back is healed enough for him to get to business.
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Compensation is apparently almost decided. Hey, get back here. They mean it this time. No, look:
Selig spends a "ton" of time on everything, as fans in Oakland waiting to know if San Jose is viable will attest, as will every single baseball fan still wondering if we'll have a second Wild Card in each league this year. But this, at the least, gives us new reason to have hope that this will all be mercifully over soon.
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Seems that we have a ton of arms for the pen for 4 spots
Figure that
Bailey, Melancon and one of Bard/Aceves are locks leaving 4 spots (assuming the usual 12 pitchers)
The grab bag includes:
Morales, Albers, Miller, Atchison, Maine, Bowden, Ohlendorff, Wilson, Padilla?, Carlson, Doubront, Tazawa.
Probably will work itself out in S.T. but there’s only so many ST innings to go around.
then: Jenks, Hill on the DL
I think that
Morales and Albers are the most likely to get spots out of that group.
Some of the rest have options, which helps, but I think we’ll lose some of that group.
Fortunately, most of that group, you wouldn’t cry over losing
by abbreviatedman on Feb 16, 2012 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
well of those
Morales, Albers, Miller, Bowden, and Doubront are the one we lose if they don’t make the roster. My guess is Morales, Albers, Bowden, and Doubront make it, the Sox pass Miller through waivers, and the rest start in pawtucket*. I also will be less than shocked if Doubront makes it as our #5 starter to start the year, with Miller in the pen.
Though I doubt the pen will look like that for too long
Morales, Albers, Bowden, Miller
would make a good middle-back of the Pen. IMHO either Doubront or Acevas will get tbe #5 spot to start the year, with the other in the Pen. Not for nothimg did the Sox pay alot of attention to Doubront this offseason, monitoring his workouts, etc. He may be closer to what we thought he could be than what we’ve been thinking lately. I don’t know about anyone else, but I am getting excited about Bard as the #4. He and others in ST seem very undervalued, in the same way Sox fans literally sniggered at the mfy choices of Colon and Garcia.
Who photoshopped someone elses body on Bobby Jenks head?
"Remember, it's not over until the fat lady drops one."
I think a big reason he looks thinner is the angle.
Like the classic MySpace photo angle.
MLB source: Selig has spent “a ton” of time studying Theo case. Decision likely by week’s end.
Also in this edition of “News we’ve heard several times in the last three months”, Roy Oswalt is weighing his options in free agency and Scott Kazmir is eventually going to throw a baseball in front of another human being.
More at 11. Back to you, Marc.
by The Name is Dalton on Feb 16, 2012 4:54 PM EST reply actions
How did we miss...
… the Rays’ back up mascot Poochie the Rockin’ Dog DJ Kitty:

The sad thing is, he’s a 20 year-old power lefty with seventeen plus-plus pitches who the Rays drafted in the 149th round and have signed through 2041 for three cans of Fancy Feast a year. Keith Law named him Prospect Zero in his recent rankings. Reports suggest he has a pitch which actually travels back in time to strike out the baserunner on second and also indicate that he spends his evenings making sweet, sweet love to Carl Crawford’s lost mojo.
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by nuthinboutnuthin on Feb 16, 2012 5:20 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
This gives your comment
about Derek Jeter and Minka Kelly a real run for its money.
Ironically, this cat lives in fear following the recent firing of the Tampa Lightning’s Thunderbug for spraying a Flyer fan with spring confetti ( I am not making this up) .
Fear is a terrible thing for a mscot to live with.
DJ Kitty up in this dorm!
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Sadly, though, in spite of all that talent
and his obvious charisma…there will still be no fans in attendance.
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I thought this was a goof
I didn’t realize he was a real backup mascot… If he doesn’t make a trip to Durham to hang out with Wool. E. Bull I’m going to be very upset.
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If you can do so, and the guy has had some strange and bad luck injuries, he’ll probably pitch pretty well, assuming his velocity returns. But it’s a minor league deal, and I know ya’ll were looking for depth so this will help.
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by Rick Bentsen on Feb 16, 2012 8:08 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Gary Carter...RIP
He was one of my favorite catchers when he played for the Expos. Classy guy. He will be missed.
by EchoDanno on Feb 16, 2012 9:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Classy
And a nice concise description of his career. Rec’d
by Zagz on Feb 17, 2012 3:05 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Thaniks
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by Rick Bentsen on Feb 17, 2012 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
oh COME ON
One of the few bits of joy I have going into this season is Bobby Jenks fat jokes, and even those are gone now. This team is miserable.
Everything Must Go.
We should sign Denny Reyes again for laughs
At least for Spring Training.
"Remember, it's not over until the fat lady drops one."
BRING BACK FAT LOOGY
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We could always bring back Rich Garces
if y’all wanna talk about a fat pitcher in the ’pen…
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by Rick Bentsen on Feb 17, 2012 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
so soon you forget, Sean
I propose that he lost all the weight by not being on the bench and not around for all the fried chicken, beer, and Halo tourney’s last year.
Alternate hypothesis:
Bobby Jenks had a contract stipulation that there be 15 buckets of fried chicken and several cases of beer for each game. With him out for most of the year, the other players didn’t want to see it go to waste.
We’re through the looking glass here people.
Everything Must Go.
Jenks hasn't been a good pitcher since he stopped drinking
he’s made enough money to retire, so I hope he stays on the wagon, but it was pretty much immediate, once he sobered up his ERA skyrocketed.
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