Cubs trade for 1B Anthony Rizzo
Our former #1 hitting prospect now appears to be headed back into Theo's clutches. Clever, Theo. Very clever.
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So I guess this puts the debate on who won the AGon trade to rest
traded for an often injured possible long reliever. Not a great haul for a guy who was one of the cornerstones in the AGon trade.
Red Sox made out like bandits on this trade.
Not so hot.
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Obviously Boston won this deal...
… however, what’s going on with San Deigo?
Theo and Jed Hoyer clearly valued Rizzo, and the best deal the Padres could get for him was this? Not only did we win the original trade, but this certainly looks to me like Theo/Jed got a prospect they love back in their system for a lot less than the Padres paid for him.
I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.
Wait ’til next year!
Hmm, maybe Josh Byrnes sucks.
Has that thought occurred to anybody?
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by nuthinboutnuthin on Jan 7, 2012 12:18 AM EST up reply actions
Padres rushed him to the Show, and then were shocked his first 200 ABs as a 21-year-old straight out of AA sucked.
That they’d trade him for Cashner…that’s more a condemnation of Byrnes than Rizzo.
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or it could be looked in this way:
padres trade agon for kelly, alonso, fuentes. then trade latos for cashner, grandal and volquez.
Highly doubt it.
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by Ben Buchanan on Jan 7, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
Man, going over to BCB and seeing them talking about "Theo and Jed"
It makes a man sigh.
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Gonzo was traded twice as a prospect too
If you consider how their respective numbers were identical in AA (Both played for Portland), it’s likehistory repeating itself again :)
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by RED SOX are #1 in my heart on Jan 7, 2012 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
And this time, the Padres lose!
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by Ben Buchanan on Jan 7, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
The reason they traded low
is that they had to trade one of him or Alonso.
It’s weird that the trade market appears to work this way, but you do appear to lose a lot of leverage when you trade from a logjam.
The real mistake, then, would be the Padres specifically deciding to trade for a prospect that would create a logjam. They should have known that they were essentially trading not for Alonso but for a prospect of Cashner’s lower quality. (Plus the potential upgrade of Alonso over Rizzo, but that’s debatable.)
Olney has some interesting tidbits in his article today
Saying how some people thought that not only was Rizzo overmatched at the MLB level, but that his swing was so bad he couldn’t even get around on a 90 MPH fastball against righties. Olney goes on to say that Theo, Hoyer, and some others thought he just got into bad habits when he was called up.
If Byrnes, et. al. thought that Rizzo’s value was never going to rebound, though, it makes sense to deal him now, even at a somewhat low point.
Strange
If they really thought he couldn’t hit 90mph then how did he hit so well in AA? It’s not like everyone is throwing 82 mph meatballs down there. It is a pro baseball league. Sounds like Theo just fleeced an overmatched GM.
It would be quite hilarious
If Rizzo winds up back with the Sox as part of the whatever compensation package is worked out for Theo.
Ha ha...awesome.
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