Edwin Jackson Chronicles: Tuesday Edition
by Marc Normandin on Jan 31, 2012 4:00 PM EST
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While there aren't any significant changes in the quiet -- yet ongoing -- Edwin Jackson sweepstakes, there are some updates that merit mentioning. Nick Cafardo says:
Lots of buzz out there about the possibility that free-agent righty Edwin Jackson may accept a one-year deal with a contender to improve his value and go back into the free-agent market next season.
That's industry buzz that fits in well with speculation that it's in his best interest to take a one-year deal. According to Cafardo's source, the Red Sox offered Jackson a deal in the $5-6 million range, similar to the rumored offer for Roy Oswalt. While that makes it sound as if the Red Sox are automatically out on Jackson -- Cafardo doesn't seem to think that'll get it done -- the fact Jackson isn't just going for the largest deal is a good sign:
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Dan Connolly Accdg to source, Edwin Jackson much more likely to sign 1yr deal than multiyr & clubs r being told that. Not good news for #Orioles
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Jackson and Boras would like to re-establish his value, since it just seems to be the Orioles interested in signing him for multiple years. While other teams could use Jackson on a one-year contract as much as the Red Sox, at least this evens the playing field, and makes things about the money. Somewhere like Seattle might help in terms of a pitcher-friendly environment, but they aren't going to compete this year like, say, Boston.
While the Red Sox are already in line to exceed the luxury tax, they also have a history of getting a few dollars more out of ownership when their guy is close to signing. Of course, the Red Sox also are deciding whether waiting to make a move later on is more important than locking someone like Jackson up now at a price that they aren't comfortable with, so we'll just have to wait and see how this develops.
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BLAAAAAAAARGH!!! OMFG! SIGN STARTERS!!!!!
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Great news for the Sox if he's willing to sign for one year.
If he signs with Boston and we make the playoffs and/or beyond, his agent could argue in 2013 that Jackson was the difference between a third place finish in the AL East and a playoff/pennant/WS team even with Boston losing starting SS Scutaro.
Please......oh God, please.....
please sign a starting pitcher.
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Please....
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Trade for Floyd:
Offer the Chisox the Difference between the offer price for Jackson and Floyd’s salary, and a prospect and the Cubs compensation package, and negotiate from there. Floyd is a much better fit for the Sox. He has a lifetime winning record against the AL east, has 8 years experience yet is only 28 years of age, He is under team control, he has excellent stuff yet suffered a lack of defense with the palesox. Most importantly he is 5-0 against the Red Sox and his two wins against the Sox last year essentially cost the sox a playoff spot. With him on
the roster that can’t happen. With a decent defense behind him he doesn’t need to win his games on his own and can actually pitch his own game, which is a big win for the Sox.
I second that
Floyd sounds like the best possible option right now. There’s not too many SPs left that we would consider starting.
by EchoDanno on Jan 31, 2012 7:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Would free up room on the 40
Which i’m also okay with as long as its the right price. I’m more for this than signing Jackson.
Agreed
I think Floyd is the better option. And I just hate Boras, he rips teams off. I don’t think Jackson is a top dollar pitcher either.
by soxfan4ever34 on Feb 1, 2012 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
But according to Cafard
redsox offered a one-year deal in the $5-6MM range.
I would think the offer is too cheap to acquire E-jax.
Please Be aggressive, Ben……
Who's left after Jackson?
Oswalt doesn’t want to come here, seems to be differing accounts on how expensive Floyd will be or how willing the Sox will be to get him, etc.
It’s Jackson or something like Gardland/carousel of has beens already in system I guess.
by South Coast Ghost on Jan 31, 2012 6:32 PM EST reply actions
Still think Floyd will be traded eventually
But it might have to wait until the season, when the White Sox get to see how awful they actually are.
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by Marc Normandin on Jan 31, 2012 7:03 PM EST up reply actions
No one should have to see that.
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by nuthinboutnuthin on Jan 31, 2012 7:06 PM EST up reply actions
Honestly with the Tigers adding Fielder and their rotation as strong as it is.
The White Sox should just say f*ck it and just dump any player that can help them re-build quickly.
by aubatron2011 on Feb 1, 2012 12:21 AM EST up reply actions
Cub's compensation
What are they considering compensation? I heard they both gave Selig their wishlists (which they probably don’t have the same players on it). Anyone heard of any progress?
by EchoDanno on Jan 31, 2012 7:45 PM EST via mobile reply actions
No one knows but Bud at this point
I know Theo said recently he didn’t know if it would be resolved before the start of ST.
by South Coast Ghost on Jan 31, 2012 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
Don't know if anyone else said this
Livan Hernandez to Houston.
"There's something out there, beyond the horizon in the corner of your eye. I'm going to find out what it is."
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I cannot see them getting him for 5-6 million, not a chance.
certainly hope I am wrong.
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Depends on what everyone else is offering
The Cardinals aren’t likely to offer much more, if anything, for instance, unless they trade McClellan to clear some space.
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by Marc Normandin on Jan 31, 2012 8:38 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldn't mind McClellan if Oswalt gives us a flat "no"
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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 31, 2012 8:41 PM EST up reply actions
I'd like McClellan as our 5th guy over Bard if we scored Jackson
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I like McClellan as a reliever
Not so much as a starter. His conversion last year didn’t go so well, and they bumped him back to the pen.
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by Marc Normandin on Jan 31, 2012 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
I'm trying my best to get Bard back in that pen
If this team can get Jackson or Floyd, and one of these bums they picked up into the rotation as a 5, just until Dice is back I think they will be ok, win 95 games if they catch some breaks.
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We'll contend, we just won't win.
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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 31, 2012 9:18 PM EST up reply actions
With another quality starter, which Jackson or Oswalt would be, we might actually win.
I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.
Wait ’til THIS year!
at this point i don't care
im fine with padilla in the rotation until dice-k is back
God.
Starters. Need….starters…..
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I'm resigned to just hold out and see what happens
by the trade deadline we’ll know what the team has/is going to do and we’ve got the pieces to move for another arm if need be. If not – as TLD has alluded to – we start the “retooling” process that this club needs
Caveat
This only if the FA pitching is going to further set us back (multi-year deals, highe prospect layout, et al)
That's fine if we stay under the CBT
If we’re over?
@#$%ing savage, yo.
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Right... I agree.
If we didn’t stay under, pay the price for the #4 starter (either Jackson or Oswalt) and be done with it. If we’re paying the tax anyway, what’s another $5 million and tax (considering they offered Jackson $5 million, and he’d probably like closer to $10 million) on the $178-$190 million plus they’ve committed already.
I mean, I realize they can make a profit without making it to the playoffs, provided they hit whatever the actual budget number is, but at some point, I feel like you’re wasting the overall investment if we don’t put a real rotation on the field.
Though, I suppose… maybe $10 million for Jackson isn’t worth tying us up so we cannot grab whatever starter gets traded next summer, when the team fades from contention (say, Floyd… once the White Sox realize they cannot compete with the Indians, let alone the Tigers). Maybe adding a better pitcher in July would have more value than signing Jackson now. Maybe.
I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.
Wait ’til THIS year!
"The Red Sox are "most likely out of the picture" for Jackson"
Per Edes, via MLBTR.
Blargh. OMFG. Sign. Starters.
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by nuthinboutnuthin on Feb 1, 2012 4:12 PM EST reply actions
Speier's sources said that's untrue
So who do we believe now?
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by Marc Normandin on Feb 1, 2012 4:24 PM EST up reply actions
Speier
Always Speier
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by nuthinboutnuthin on Feb 1, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
Edes is also the one that reported
that Oswalt was about to sign with the Cardinals days ago, before he talked to the Rangers, and then heard from the same source that the Red Sox had a “great chance” of signing Oswalt today.
So I’m pretty much disbelieving what his “baseball sources” say at the moment
They have a word for that:
Bull-Olney
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by nuthinboutnuthin on Feb 1, 2012 6:14 PM EST up reply actions
Ha ha ha!
There’s some humor here… but…
BLAAAAAAAAARGH OMFG SIGN STARTERS!!
I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.
Wait ’til THIS year!
Strictly humor of the "wocka wocka" variety...
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by nuthinboutnuthin on Feb 2, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
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