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Red Sox "Still Showing Interest" In Gavin Floyd

Gavin Floyd of the Chicago White Sox pitches against the Kansas City Royals at U.S. Cellular Field in Chicago, Illinois. (Photo by Tasos Katopodis/Getty Images)

Jon Morosi tweets that the Red Sox are still looking at Gavin Floyd of the White Sox. As Chicago can't quite decide if it's rebuilding, reloading, or just running around in circles, there's no indication of how likely a Floyd-to-Boston deal is. But it is likely Floyd would be someone Boston is into to fill that fourth-starter slot.

Floyd is in that realm of good, not great starting pitchers. But that's exactly the kind of arm the Red Sox could use. He strikes out a few more batters than average, keeps the free passes to a minimum, but occasionally has long ball issues that unravel his good work. Of course, part of the blame for that can be placed on his home park of US Cellular, one of the friendlier parks for homers in the AL, but not all, as Floyd has had fairly even home/road splits in terms of homers over the years.

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He has had FIP of 3.77, 3.46, and 3.81 the last three years. He's also failed to match his FIP over that stretch, with 4.06, 4.08, and 4.37 ERA in the same span. The answer for his true ability is likely somewhere in the middle. The better news is he has averaged 31 starts over the last four years, something only one of Boston's starters, Jon Lester (32), has accomplished over the same time period. If there is one thing Boston's rotation has missed the last few years, it's an ability to stay on the mound.

Floyd is owed just $7 million in 2012, and has a 2013 option for $9.5 million. He's in that realm where he is good enough to pay when under team control, but also good enough to let him walk down the road when he's eligible for free agency. The scarcity of the market means he will demand (and probably receive) a contract that pays him handsomely, meaning the Red Sox could safely offer him the qualifying contract necessary under the new collective bargaining agreement in order to receive draft picks in return for his exit.

That would give Boston two years of Floyd if they so choose, at just $16.5 million, and with the potential for draft picks in their future if they extend a one-year qualifying offer to him before 2014.

There has been no word about what the White Sox want, but it's Kenny Williams we're talking about: trying to guess is probably a futile exercise. What we do know, though, is that the White Sox farm system is nearly bereft of talent. They might be in the market for quantity over quality, a notion that means Boston might be able to send more lottery tickets to Chicago, rather than one big one. It's not a guarantee, of course, but likely is something that would be explored.

This means someone like Felix Doubront, who is out of options, has potential, but maybe doesn't have a place on a Red Sox roster that features a full bullpen, plenty of possible starter options, and the left-handed Franklin Morales ahead of him on the depth chart. He still might be able to start, but it's not going to happen in Boston, and the White Sox are in a position to take that chance on him, much like the Astros with Kyle Weiland. Doubront alone isn't enough, obviously, but he's a piece who could be moved, especially since his exit would open up a 40-man spot for Floyd in Boston.

Doubront isn't the only 40-man player Boston might be better off moving, but even the White Sox probably aren't jumping at the chance to secure Michael Bowden or Lars Anderson. It's more likely Doubront would be packaged with prospects from the low minors, where Boston believes their depth to be.

This is just a theory, of course -- the White Sox might be looking for a big-time prospect or prospects for Floyd, and balk at Boston's attempts to avoid handing over the keys to the farm. It's worth exploring, though, and, at the least, discussions with Floyd and the potential winnowing of job opportunities might lead someone like Roy Oswalt to back down from a guaranteed contract demand, and settle for a strong base and incentives due to his balky back.

Chances are good we won't know until the Red Sox finish up some more of their arbitration discussions, as then they will know what money there is left to play with, but it's good to see Boston is still in the market to improve the rotation.

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I like him

He’s underrated, I think, due to the FIP/ERA discrepancy. If we could get him for a package in which Doubront is the best prospect going back, I’d do that deal in a minute. (I’d even give up Ranaudo for him, though I rank Ranaudu much, much lower than most people.)

Of course, I guess we’d still need to clear payroll even to bring on a measly $7 million salary. Thanks for leaving us in such good shape, Theo.

by Jake_W on Jan 18, 2012 2:21 PM EST reply actions  

Honestly...

I think the payroll thing is a half-truth. They are sitting back waiting to see how arb shakes out, and they’ll have a better sense of how much there is to spend. Plus, I know guys like Maholm, Saunders, and Kuroda are gone, but if they can still make a deal for Floyd, or sign Oswalt, and waiting turned out favorable for them, then kudos to them for sticking to their guns.

We won’t know one way or the other until it happens, though.

by Marc Normandin on Jan 18, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually, this is what I liked in your article...

… not necessarily in love with trading prospects for Floyd (and I know Maholm isn’t as good, but I struggle to track the logic of not paying Maholm $4.65 million with a $6.5 million option and thinking prospects plus $7/$9.5 million is a good idea).

However, if we’re giving up Doubront and low A lottery tickets, I could live with that. If this is just a move to get Roy to agree to a $4 million deal with incentives for performance that get him to $8/$10 million, then that’s really fine with me.

Ultimately, I’d rather have Oswalt than Floyd (and keep our prospects, whomever they are), but if this move helps us drive Oswalt’s asking price down, I’m fine with it.

I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.

Wait ’til THIS year!

by AlohaSox on Jan 18, 2012 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Just don't drive it down so far that Dave Dombrowski starts thinking "I can beat that."

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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 18, 2012 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

True.

I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.

Wait ’til THIS year!

by AlohaSox on Jan 18, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I would not at all be surprised

if this resulted in a trade very favorable to the Sox.

But Floyd costs about as much as Oswalt would cost. So the question is, why Floyd over Oswalt?

I’m equally fine with either- I could be wrong, but I suspect I wouldn’t miss the prospects we’d give up for Floyd.

by dennet on Jan 18, 2012 2:21 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Yeah, as long as no key prospects are included, I'm probably fine with this.

Still, Oswalt’s back problems are likely overblown… he didn’t hurt himself pitching, which I think is a big distinction. Prior to 2011, he was an absolute workhorse, turning in a minimum of 181 innings, and usually over 200.

Oswalt’s four year average is less than 31 starts only because he got 23 in 2011. However, despite that… it’s still 29.25. The last time he pitched less than 30 starts before 2011 was 2003. I mean, that is consistency at it’s finest, and I expect he’ll pitch in 2012 with a huge chip on his shoulder to prove his value for the longer term deal next offseason. (Meaning, we could offer him a qualifying offer and get prospects for him if he takes a longer deal elsewhere.)

I see Oswalt as Beltre in a #4 SP role.

I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.

Wait ’til THIS year!

by AlohaSox on Jan 18, 2012 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Floyd is just a consistent.

He’s thrown between 193 and 206 innings the last four years. So either would be good. They both have pro and cons, but either one would fit this team perfectly.

by aubatron2011 on Jan 18, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, but one costs $7 million plus prospects and the other just $8 million.

So, I’m fine with paying the money for Oswalt (especially if we can get an incentive laden deal), rather than giving up prospects.

Unless, of course, they are prospects like Doubront (out of options and likely no spot on our roster) and Lars Anderson.

However, I’m fine with either, provided the prospect costs isn’t too high.

I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.

Wait ’til THIS year!

by AlohaSox on Jan 18, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually

While one costs $7 million in real salary, he only counts as about $3.75 million or so against the Luxury Tax

by South Coast Ghost on Jan 18, 2012 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

and you might be able to ship over

someone that is arb eligible in the deal to save a bit more

by BobZupcic on Jan 18, 2012 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

As bad as Kenny is, I'd be surprised if we shipped him one of those guys.

I would think Doubront off the 40 man, and then some low A guys with a lot of upside.

Then again, who knows what it would really take to get it done.

With Darvish signed, does this mean Oswalt takes an offer soon?

I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.

Wait ’til THIS year!

by AlohaSox on Jan 18, 2012 8:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, that's interesting.

I guess I missed that idea. That’s a big difference.

I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.

Wait ’til THIS year!

by AlohaSox on Jan 18, 2012 8:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Is "still showing interest in"...

… the equivalent of “talking to,” because we know how that turns out.

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by nuthinboutnuthin on Jan 18, 2012 2:26 PM EST reply actions  

For real.

We’ve either talked to, or had interest in, a lot of players that have found there way to teams other than ours. In the scheme of things this really means nothing, if it happens they’ll be like 1/10 in acquiring decent starting pitchers they were rumored to have been interested in, those aren’t odds that are going to make me be holding my breath.

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by Rogue Nine on Jan 18, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

OH PLEASE OH PLEASE OH PLEASE OH PLEASE

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by Bloggy on Jan 18, 2012 2:37 PM EST reply actions  

Still prefer Oswalt, but if this helps us get Oswalt on a more team friendly deal...

… however, I’d also take Floyd over nothing at all.

I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.

Wait ’til THIS year!

by AlohaSox on Jan 18, 2012 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Bloggy wants a real pitcher.

That’s all.

I think I’d prefer Floyd, but him, Oswalt…that’s fine. Just so we don’t have Experimental Bard and the Random Pitcher Generator as our 4 and 5.

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by Bloggy on Jan 18, 2012 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Ha ha ha!

Yes, on that we agree.

I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.

Wait ’til THIS year!

by AlohaSox on Jan 18, 2012 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Let's get both and

send Bard back to the Bullpen (which would then be outstanding) and go beat the crap out of New York and Tampa.

by flasoxfan on Jan 19, 2012 12:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Would be awesome!

He’s like a younger, slightly worse but more durable Beckett.

by revived0103 on Jan 18, 2012 3:22 PM EST reply actions  

Felix Doubront is also like a younger, much worse, chubbier but healthier Johan Santana when you put it that way

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by L33to II on Jan 18, 2012 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

This is true.

Put a different way, Floyd is almost as good as Beckett!

by revived0103 on Jan 18, 2012 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I am Roy Hallady!

Except for the pitching stuff.

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by nuthinboutnuthin on Jan 18, 2012 5:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm exactly like Tim Tebow

neither of us are quarterbacks.

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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 18, 2012 5:46 PM EST up reply actions  

And the driver's licence...

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by Bloggy on Jan 18, 2012 6:41 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Are we maybe selling Doubront short?

i hear is is no longer chubby but very much on shape following a team developed winter workout. He was a highly regarded prospect before coming to AAA out of shape and injury prone last year. Despite that he threw quality innings at that at MLB levels by year end. Isnt it possible, even likely, that he could be an important arm in 2012 and beyond at low cost. I cant see getting Floyd, Silva, Cook, etc and letting Doubront walk. We have reaonable, perhaps good, MLB ready talent like Lars, Tejeda, Lin and alot more lower down that are blocked and more appropriate for Floyd. Whatever, I still see Oswalt on a one year incentivized win-win deal to keep payroll under the luxtaxcap. If the Sox will exceed that cap anyway, then its time for some judicious spending, as in Oswalt and maybe Ross any day now.

by GerryT on Jan 18, 2012 9:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I like Doubront plenty

But he’s probably a back-end guy if he’s a starter, possibly more useful out of the bullpen. Nothing wrong with that, but it’s not Floyd.

by Marc Normandin on Jan 19, 2012 4:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Yawn

Going on record here as predicting Floyd doesn’t end up in Boston.

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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 18, 2012 3:33 PM EST reply actions  

As long as Oswalt does, I won't care.

I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.

Wait ’til THIS year!

by AlohaSox on Jan 18, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Damn... I want Oswalt.

Then a random Wheeler out of left field to the 40 man FTW!

I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.

Wait ’til THIS year!

by AlohaSox on Jan 18, 2012 8:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Williams is really hard to predict

He didn’t get a whole lot for Quentin, demanded a Greinke-esque package for Danks, and is either totally fine or not okay at all with trading Floyd.

by Marc Normandin on Jan 18, 2012 5:41 PM EST up reply actions  

He didn't get a whole lot for Sergio Santos either

could help thinbyte long if the Rays send one of their excess pitchers to the White Sox, which would make Floyd expendable

by d.russ on Jan 19, 2012 12:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Dirvish sign with Tex.

So Tex would not go after Oswalt ?
I’d rather take Oswalt than give up WMB

by Taro yamada on Jan 18, 2012 5:54 PM EST reply actions  

I would have to believe

This means Texas is out on Oswalt. They already have six starters, plus Scott Feldman as a seventh, so it’s not like they are hurting.

by Marc Normandin on Jan 18, 2012 5:56 PM EST up reply actions  

However Texas is hardly the only team in on Oswalt

the Tigers only have 4 starters, adding Oswalt would make their rotation lethal, possibly the best in the AL.

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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 18, 2012 6:03 PM EST up reply actions  

However, since Oswalt wanted to go to Texas...

… the fact that they signed Darvish should mean he now looks at the other offers on the table and makes a decision.

I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.

Wait ’til THIS year!

by AlohaSox on Jan 18, 2012 8:37 PM EST up reply actions  

True

and he’ll be in Detroit soon.

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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 18, 2012 8:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Ha ha ha!

Okay, TLD… you’ve been heard.

I haven’t abandoned all hope yet.

I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.

Wait ’til THIS year!

by AlohaSox on Jan 18, 2012 8:39 PM EST up reply actions  

So when Oswalt signs with Detroit you'll join me and Sean in Baseball Hell?

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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 18, 2012 8:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I'm not holding my breath for a Gavin Floyd trade.

If they pull it off before Oswalt and/or Jackson signs, fine with it. I just think if all the available SPs are off the market, then the price for a trade will be that much worse for us.

I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.

Wait ’til THIS year!

by AlohaSox on Jan 18, 2012 8:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Gammons said last night if Texas gets Darvish chances are Oswalt to Boston might happen

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by gizmosandy on Jan 18, 2012 9:19 PM EST up reply actions  

At this point, I believe it when I see it.

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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 18, 2012 9:32 PM EST up reply actions  

agreed

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by gizmosandy on Jan 18, 2012 9:38 PM EST up reply actions  

This would be awesome. I actually advised this in that Brett Myers fanpost.

Innings eater, ground-baller, good K/BB ratio, K/9, BB/9, and peripherals. Also reasonably young and another year. If KW likes the “buy low” prospects such as Simon Castro, maybe a deal with Britton and a mid-level lottery ticket like Henry Ramos, Jose Vinicio, etc.

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by LesterJohn on Jan 18, 2012 6:00 PM EST reply actions  

Agree with the overall feeling

But just have to note that Floyd isn’t a GB pitcher.

by John Leary on Jan 18, 2012 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh yeah, you're right. But a career 44% GB rate is not bad.

For some reason I thought he was over 50 for his career. My bad.

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by LesterJohn on Jan 18, 2012 6:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Not bad at all.

His batted ball profile is basically league average.

by John Leary on Jan 18, 2012 6:21 PM EST up reply actions  

This would be so great, but won't happen

I’d also take Marlon Byrd with his entire salary being paid as compensation for Theo, especially with the Crawford news.

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by gizmosandy on Jan 18, 2012 7:47 PM EST reply actions  

Wow... that nut job?

I still think Crawford is back in plenty of time to contribute in 2012.

We’ll have you back in the Crawford’s Biggest Fan Club before the summer’s over.

I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.

Wait ’til THIS year!

by AlohaSox on Jan 18, 2012 8:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Sandy's spirit is broken

he’s on my side now.

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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 18, 2012 8:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Marlon Byrd is a nut job?

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by brogshan on Jan 18, 2012 8:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Where is your sarcasm font?

Wait… oh, no… I mixed up Marlon Byrd with the other MB: Milton Bradley.

Okay, that’s terrible on my part. I saw the MB and got them confused.

I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.

Wait ’til THIS year!

by AlohaSox on Jan 18, 2012 8:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Imagine

Milton Bradley, Carlos Silva and Vincente Padilla in one clubhouse……….we’d be longing for chicken and beer

by BobZupcic on Jan 18, 2012 9:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Not to mention Lackey, Youkilis.

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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 18, 2012 9:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Which is exactly why I was confused anyone wanted Bradley.

Total error on my part, but that was the confusion I had.

I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.

Wait ’til THIS year!

by AlohaSox on Jan 18, 2012 9:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I am getting the impression Carl is a bit of a nut job actually

Extremely weird about spot in lineup
Won’t play anything but LF
Would not return messages from Bobby V for almost 2 months
Strange blogs last summer

Guy seems to be a complete flake

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by gizmosandy on Jan 18, 2012 9:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Unfortunate that Theo didn't realize this while stalking him last winter.

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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 18, 2012 9:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Stupid Carl

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by gizmosandy on Jan 18, 2012 9:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Who the fuck is named Carl anymore? Seriously.

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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 18, 2012 10:00 PM EST up reply actions  

guys with weak wrists

or they get named Jed

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by gizmosandy on Jan 18, 2012 10:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I've missed the news about not returning messages from Bobby V.

Is that before or after he was hired as the manager? Doesn’t feel like it’s been two months yet, has it?

Still… where’s that story? I need more detail.

I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.

Wait ’til THIS year!

by AlohaSox on Jan 18, 2012 9:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks!

I’ll take a look at this.

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by AlohaSox on Jan 18, 2012 9:55 PM EST up reply actions  

make no mistake

Stupid Carl is how he will be known

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by gizmosandy on Jan 18, 2012 9:58 PM EST up reply actions  

He signed a ridiculously huge contract

You what that makes him? Smarter than us!

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by Sean O on Jan 18, 2012 10:00 PM EST up reply actions  

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by gizmosandy on Jan 18, 2012 10:01 PM EST up reply actions  

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by gizmosandy on Jan 18, 2012 10:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Ugh.

Yes, this one kills me. He has to sell out on that play.

I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.

Wait ’til THIS year!

by AlohaSox on Jan 19, 2012 1:42 AM EST up reply actions  

That's an unorthodox batting stance

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by nuthinboutnuthin on Jan 18, 2012 10:49 PM EST up reply actions  

OT: Since I'm watching 2004 ALCS Game 5

We should totally have an OTM Classic Game Club, where we game thread some commercially-released DVD game we watch simultaneously. After all, we have nothing else to do, and the Celtics certainly suck.

As for Game 5, I love seeing Pedro in a Red Sox uni. I WISH the Red Sox would release every start he made in 1999 and 2000, as I would gladly pay $100+ for that.

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by Sean O on Jan 18, 2012 9:38 PM EST reply actions  

I have the 2004 and 2007 DVD sets

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by gizmosandy on Jan 18, 2012 9:44 PM EST up reply actions  

as do I

Don’t have the Fenway’s Greatest Games set. Yet.

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by Sean O on Jan 18, 2012 9:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Same here.

I’m up for a game thread like this… who’s in charge of setting it up??

I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.

Wait ’til THIS year!

by AlohaSox on Jan 18, 2012 9:53 PM EST up reply actions  

If we get some more response here

I can create a fanpost. Or, If Ben/Marc/whoever sees this and wants to expand its reach…

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by Sean O on Jan 18, 2012 9:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Just not this weekend.

Taking the girlfriend and her sister (supposed to be her mom and dad too, but her dad wasn’t feeling well so mom is heading home early) for a scenic tour of Kauai for the weekend.

I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.

Wait ’til THIS year!

by AlohaSox on Jan 18, 2012 9:55 PM EST up reply actions  

That seems fair

Maybe a weeknight when nobody has anything. I would definitely be happy with ALCS Game 4.

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by Sean O on Jan 18, 2012 9:56 PM EST up reply actions  

No doubt.

I own it, but not sure I’ve ever thrown it in the DVD player.

I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.

Wait ’til THIS year!

by AlohaSox on Jan 19, 2012 1:43 AM EST up reply actions  

It would be interesting to watch them again sober.

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by Bloggy on Jan 19, 2012 6:42 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Now, why would you do that??

I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.

Wait ’til THIS year!

by AlohaSox on Jan 19, 2012 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, it might prevent me from going into the Byward Market in Ottawa

sceaming about

THE….SINGLE GREATEST….COMEBACK IN SPORTS…………………HISTORY!!!!!

Man, it’s lucky I landed home with a full head of teeth.

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by Bloggy on Jan 19, 2012 7:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Ha ha ha!

I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.

Wait ’til THIS year!

by AlohaSox on Jan 19, 2012 8:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I have Lester's no-hitter, that's it.

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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 18, 2012 10:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I should really get that

Since I was there.

And every time it is mentioned, I am required to say I was there. For Jon Lester’s no hitter.

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by Sean O on Jan 18, 2012 10:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Not sure if there has been a cooler game to be at this last decade

Game 4 in ’04 maybe. But I think his no-hitter was even cooler than game 4 in ’07

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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 18, 2012 10:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Lester's no hitter

was one of the best nights of my life, but Game 5 is the greatest game of all time.

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by Sean O on Jan 18, 2012 10:17 PM EST up reply actions  

True

I actually missed the ALCS that year, I was on a family trip to the Grand Canyon. I’ve since watched the entire series, but it’s not the same.

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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 18, 2012 10:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Game 7

2004 ALCS was the coolest game of all time.

It wasn’t close: which made it that much more enjoyable.

by flasoxfan on Jan 19, 2012 12:57 AM EST up reply actions  

My dad was at Game 4, of the ALCS.

For me, it’s a toss up whether Game 4 of the ALCS or Game 4 of the World Series would be a better game to have gone to in 2004.

I have a friend who knows Dave Roberts, so I got him to sign a photo of that famous steal for my dad for his 60th birthday… I still need to get it custom framed with his game ticket from that night.

I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.

Wait ’til THIS year!

by AlohaSox on Jan 19, 2012 1:46 AM EST up reply actions  

The biggest game I've ever been to

was when Manny hit his 500th HR. Now I just remember it as the game Papi hurt his wrist.

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by brogshan on Jan 18, 2012 10:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Let's see

1). Lester’s No Hitter
2). 2007 ALCS Game 7
3). Sox/Rangers 36 run disaster, aka Little League At Fenway
4). Schilling’s 200th
5). The 6 run comeback game against the Yankees in 07 (gets no credit)

Then just a bunch of games ranging from boring to brilliant.

Everything Must Go.

by Sean O on Jan 18, 2012 10:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't have anything like that

The most I have was Lester shutting out the White Sox. The game where Jose Contreras tore his ACL trying to get Ells out at first. Thome hit into four double plays that game.

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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 18, 2012 11:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Hmm would have loved to have been at the Rangers game.

My best game was probably Lackey’s return to Angel Stadium. Quite entertaining. I was at game 5 of the 03 ALCS and game 1 of the 09 ALDS, but they were both miserable losses

by revived0103 on Jan 19, 2012 12:48 AM EST up reply actions  

I got Game 2 of the 2007 World Series in Fenway.

Which, for a guy living in Hawaii, has to be a bit of an accomplishment, no?

Also, Schilling’s last game; Papelbon made a sick pick off move, and I feel like Lowell hit a HR (or was it Pedey?? It’s late and I’m tired.)

That has to be the best game I’ve ever seen live, and I was there for a couple of Pedro vs. Clemens games for Boston vs. NYC.

Of course, seeing them hang the banner against the Yankees for Opening Day in 2005 was up there too.

I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.

Wait ’til THIS year!

by AlohaSox on Jan 19, 2012 1:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Hey cool

That means you’ve seen Dirk Hayhurst pitch!

by Gregork on Jan 18, 2012 11:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait... we don't lose every game you go to?

Maybe we’ve been losing all the games since because you got to see this one, and Karma says you can never see another win after that.

I was there for Ells inside the park HR last September.

I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.

Wait ’til THIS year!

by AlohaSox on Jan 19, 2012 1:44 AM EST up reply actions  

I used to have great luck

From 2009 on though, it’s been a disaster.

Everything Must Go.

by Sean O on Jan 19, 2012 8:02 AM EST up reply actions  

And yet... somehow... he played LF in Fenway better than Crawford does.

I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.

Wait ’til THIS year!

by AlohaSox on Jan 19, 2012 1:54 AM EST up reply actions  

For whatever reason...

… I just imagine some reporter determining that the Sox are “showing interest” in Floyd by assessing Cherington’s crotch bulge.

I need to scrub my brain eyes.

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...and now me too.

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by Rogue Nine on Jan 18, 2012 11:18 PM EST up reply actions  

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