Yankees Trade Jesus Montero For Michael Pineda
About 20 minutes after a mystery move for the Mariners was being thrown around, we now know that it's for Jesus Montero, and they're sending Michael Pineda to New York.
In before panicky calls for Kuroda. Actually, I'll be first: sign Kuroda.
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And by "move" ...
… we really were hoping for something other than bending over and grabbing your ankles.
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by nuthinboutnuthin on Jan 13, 2012 9:30 PM EST up reply actions
Does this lower further lower the cost of remaining FA pitching?
Or do the Yankees turn around and sign Jackson/Kuroda?
They couldn't possibly
Since they’ve signed so many replacement level, huge-money contracts.
Oh wait, it’s only the Red Sox who are hamstrung that way.
No. They're gonna go ahead and sign Fielder instead.
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by Ben Buchanan on Jan 13, 2012 7:52 PM EST up reply actions
I'll be interested to see the other players involved
Right now this looks like a great deal for the MFY, in my opinion.
They probably could have gotten more talent for Montero and a hypothetical B level Prospect
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by Dustin's #1 Fan on Jan 13, 2012 7:59 PM EST up reply actions
Pineda is fantastic, though
Maybe I’m underrating Montero’s bat, but trading 5 years of a cost-controlled #3 floor starter for a position-less bat at Safeco doesn’t make sense to me.
yeah he does
but is 19, and pretty much every 19 year old prospect has a pretty high ceiling. Noesi is actually a major league ready guy.
true
i guess time will tell. he could be the next Joba lol, but i hope thats not the case
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Doubt it. Really doubt it.
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by Ben Buchanan on Jan 13, 2012 8:04 PM EST up reply actions
Wow, I'm not happy about this
on the positive side, it means the Yankees are probably not interested in the remaining FA starters. If Kuroda really does want to come to the Sox or Yankees, we may get him on a great deal.
I argue they will get one of Jackson/Kuroda/Oswalt now
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CC/Pineda/Garcia/Nova/Burnett
They’ll have to unload one before any of the FA will sign.
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by Ben Buchanan on Jan 13, 2012 8:14 PM EST up reply actions
I believe they will
and it will be Burnett
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Good luck getting anyone to take him.
Would have to pay 95% of his contract.
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by Ben Buchanan on Jan 13, 2012 8:15 PM EST up reply actions
if they do that,
then we unload Lackey
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by BoldandBrash on Jan 13, 2012 8:16 PM EST up reply actions
Wow
You’re right on top of that.
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by Ben Buchanan on Jan 13, 2012 8:24 PM EST up reply actions
Jeff Sullivan just suggested that the M's go after Kuroda.
I am going to kill myself.
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I'm in a very fragile place right now.
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by Ben Buchanan on Jan 13, 2012 8:11 PM EST up reply actions
Pretty sure it's more about emotion than anything else.
Though Pineda in the Bronx is a bit tricky.
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by Ben Buchanan on Jan 13, 2012 8:19 PM EST up reply actions
There was a groundswell of support to call up Montero last year
and they were hyping him so much – now he’s gone…..like losing your favorite toy
they just got so much better though
Seattle made a mistake
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maybe something about moving from Safeco to NY
and his fastball and flyball rates. But he’s still really good
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by BoldandBrash on Jan 13, 2012 8:22 PM EST up reply actions
as a yankee fan
it sounds like a good deal. my people @ PSA were livid at first because of all the Jesus love. but at the end of the day, we got a 22 year old with ace potential for a shitty catcher who hits well. i say win NYY.. do you guys go after E Jax or Oswalt?
I piss excellence
Jesus had a spot in NYY line-up pretty much if you think he is an everyday catcher which is still up in the air. I think alot of people believe the DH spot will need to be kept relatively open (ala no full timer like Ortiz) so that as A-Rod, Tex, etc age they have a place to rest them.
Regardless, it was the right thing to do for NY. Good Starting pitching is the hottest commodity in sports. It’s expensive (usually) on the FA market, expensive (usually) in the trade market, and takes years to develop.
by The Name is Dalton on Jan 14, 2012 8:38 AM EST up reply actions
Just give up
and be able to laugh at the situation. Realizing we’ll be lucky to finish 3rd is so much more comforting.
The Red Sox are completely screwed
Ownership playing hard ball with the tax has screwed the team.
Could have made some nice overpays for one year on Oswalt or Kuroda, and now the price ust went up.
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They're not playing hardball with the tax, is the thing.
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by Ben Buchanan on Jan 13, 2012 8:13 PM EST up reply actions
And the price just went down. One less suitor.
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by Ben Buchanan on Jan 13, 2012 8:13 PM EST up reply actions
no, the price has gone up
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because the Sox are now desperate
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If they weren't before, they aren't now.
Price isn’t up.
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by Ben Buchanan on Jan 13, 2012 8:18 PM EST up reply actions
It only goes up
If somebody is there to offer more. Removing the team that might do that, doesn’t raise the price for the Sox.
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If I were an agent I'd hardball the Sox is all I'm saying
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but the point is the sox don't want to spend
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I hate free agency
But what would be your fallback?
I mean the Sox could say 8 million and the client could say 10 million but there has to be another team willing to pay the 10 million ya know
but I believe the Sox are offering very low numbers
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Well so are the FA pitchers
I mean how many slots are left out there and teams that can/are willing to pay the $$ for older veterans
are we a team willing to pay anything this winter?
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It's not clear, is it?
That they’ve been in on Kuroda for so long suggests they’re willing to pay some money. Just not clear how much.
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by Ben Buchanan on Jan 13, 2012 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
ok clear up for me
is the tax the issue or something else?
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The tax hurts, but once they go over it, they've kinda gone past the point where it's important
And they’ve already gone past…
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by Ben Buchanan on Jan 13, 2012 8:22 PM EST up reply actions
Don't know
But bargaining against not having a job is pretty dangerous….the Sox can not sign another pitcher and take there chances…..the pitchers, well they gotta work
they really should sign 2 SP's
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Meh the 5th slot is prettty much a crapshoot for most teams
I think we’d be fine with Bard/Cook/Silva/etc. in the 5 as long as we get someone solid for the 4
Yeah
As much as I don’t want Saunders, his ilk are great for our sign in bargaining.
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by Ben Buchanan on Jan 13, 2012 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
The MFY are going to be loaded at SP after next winter
look at the FA class
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and Philly was this year
At this point as a baseball fan, I’m not going to worry about the offseason too much. This is baseball. who the hell knows what will happen…
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by BoldandBrash on Jan 13, 2012 8:19 PM EST up reply actions
I wrote in Ben's story this afternoon how our SP is already better than last year.... CORRECTION...
While we ARE still in a better SP position now than last year, it is equally true that our SP position is relative to the other teams in our division. With the MFY improving tremendously just now, we must counter with a similar improvement to not be left behind.
Time to nab a Kuroda/Oswalt/Jackson.
OK, nevermind, Yankees sign Kuroda.
WHAT THE FUCK
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are Sox fans willing to go for a lost season
might actually work best for the long term and its not like they’ve had problems selling tickets
We won't have a choice either way
May as well go cheaper. Let the fire sale begin: Everything Must Go.
If that happens
We are 100% screwed going forward. The only reason we haven’t finished third for years is due to our giant budget. Lose that, and we’re stuck in fourth place going forward.
Everything Must Go.
or will just use some other worthless guy
I’ve already come to grips with that.
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by BoldandBrash on Jan 13, 2012 8:26 PM EST up reply actions
called it thank you
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Yes, you did.
And now the price does go up.
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by Ben Buchanan on Jan 13, 2012 8:26 PM EST up reply actions
thats how they operate
I know my stuff
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Ok
If Fantasy Sports has taught me anthing, don’t bet against Sandy.
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Time to call Sandy out
He acted like he never played last year and steamrolled everyone…..Woody Harrelson’ed us
I wish I were that slick
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and if you look at my draft BZ you knooooow that isnt true
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ha!
I drafted poop
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Go look at my draft
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Hm...most valuable SP...most valuable position player...
And some great trades that were probably accomplished with mind tricks and/or roofies.
It was a hoot
I loved it!!
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It was a blast
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you caused me to have a new addiction BZ
this one not as bad for my health as others
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I hate free agency
Thanks Theo for creating this giant mess
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ownership has him held hostage
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He's spent upwards of $6M after signing Ortiz
They’ve said they’re going over, he had the money to get something done.
I am Sandy's bitch.
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the PR nightmare for this team since September now continues and
they are in worse shape image wise than I can remember in some time
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That was my thing
Kuroda doesn’t have a wild card really, he is what he is. Oswalt is either a great signing or a 60 day DL participant at the end of the year.
I am Sandy's bitch.
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I don't disagree
The only caveat for Kuroda is that he IS moving from a pitcher’s park in the NL West.
C'mon, it's the Red Sox.
Oswalt iseither a great signing ora 60 day DL participant at the end of the year.
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by nuthinboutnuthin on Jan 13, 2012 8:49 PM EST up reply actions
We are now the 3rd best team in this division, with no question
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they had pitching though Bob
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I'm just saying preseason "rankings" are B.S.
anything can happen in baseball – see Sox September 2011
but depth and talent
the Sox do not have
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Rays haven't really gotten any better.
Lost Kotchman/Damon
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by Ben Buchanan on Jan 13, 2012 8:31 PM EST up reply actions
And that amounts to?
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Quite a bit of their 2010 production, actually.
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by Ben Buchanan on Jan 13, 2012 8:32 PM EST up reply actions
Plus, possibly Luke Scott...
… but until I see long form Luke Scott, I’ll guess I’ll just have to take Joe Maddon’s word for it.
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by nuthinboutnuthin on Jan 13, 2012 8:52 PM EST up reply actions
Full year of Matt Moore, full year of Desmond Jennings
Probably some other young guys I’m forgetting. They’ll be formidable.
You say this as if it matters in any way
We are the exact opposite: the Rays find a way to win, we find a way to fuck up.
Everything Must Go.
Not that I would dispute this...
… but if I wanted to, the last day of the regular season would probably be pretty hard to refute as supporting evidence.
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by nuthinboutnuthin on Jan 22, 2012 2:14 AM EST up reply actions
Scott>Damon
Matt Moore full season
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now they will make a huge mistake and go overpay for jackson
should have overpaid for kuroda for one year, idiots
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If they won't pay 8MM for one year of Oswalt
Then it will be extremely disappointing and mostly Theo’s fault.
Can Ben now pull the trigger for Garza?
it’s going to hurt
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E-jax is probably better
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by BoldandBrash on Jan 13, 2012 8:36 PM EST up reply actions
not for the money
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Yeah
It was a statement of how bad Garza is.
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by BoldandBrash on Jan 13, 2012 8:38 PM EST up reply actions
Theo knew, Theo f'ing knew what he was getting out of
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yeah pretty much
This should be my sig
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by BoldandBrash on Jan 13, 2012 8:39 PM EST up reply actions
shows you how bad Hendry was
You look at the moves Theo has made and he’s still a 1000x better than Hendry.
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by BoldandBrash on Jan 13, 2012 8:41 PM EST up reply actions
Anyone with a calculator and the time could have figured out what this offseason was going to look like.
He didn’t dodge anything we shouldn’t have known a year ago, the 2011 offseason was going to be slow because we aren’t going to spend anymore. That we have two starting pitchers on the DL doesn’t help any, but this wasn’t unforeseeable.
I am Sandy's bitch.
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Well signing big named FAs to long term deals
has worked out so well yeah?
Theo kinda built his own bed
but they still have an obligation to fix those issues
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Oh absolutely
And they’ve failed to sign even one reliable, bonafide starter and I’m extremely pissed about that as I watch my favorite option fly off the table.
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mine as well
Kuroda for 12 on a one year deal would have been perfect, much less 10
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one year 10 million for kuroda
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what a steal
love one year free agent deals
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The Sox should have matched that
They must not even have wanted to try and bid
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True
As long as they get him though.
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and there's the chance that they did and Kruoda wanted NY
*disclaimer: I haven’t read anything about the deal and what may or may not have been offered.
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by BoldandBrash on Jan 13, 2012 8:44 PM EST up reply actions
I'll be the first:
Fire Ben Cherington.
trolololol…
by Anthony Emerson on Jan 13, 2012 8:43 PM EST reply actions
Sean O for GM
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by BoldandBrash on Jan 13, 2012 8:45 PM EST up reply actions
Better than a $190m 81-81 season, no?
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by Sean O on Jan 13, 2012 8:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Depends on who we get in return.
And if you keep A-Gon, Pedroia and Ells.
by Anthony Emerson on Jan 13, 2012 8:49 PM EST up reply actions
Pedroia and Lester would be my only must-keeps
Everyone else can go, for the right price.
Everything Must Go.
I'd keep Adrian
unless we’re getting like, Verlander in return.
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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 13, 2012 10:21 PM EST up reply actions
Gonzalez: huge talent, huge contract
I’d definitely want a very strong return, but the Padres didn’t trade the contract, they traded the player. We’d be trading both.
Everything Must Go.
The Padres sort of traded the player
if we didn’t have a handshake agreement on the contract we wouldn’t have made the trade.
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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 13, 2012 10:44 PM EST up reply actions
Ben...
In the future, when you say things like: “sign Kuroda,” please specify which team you are speaking to.
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by nuthinboutnuthin on Jan 13, 2012 8:43 PM EST reply actions
So what now?
Jackson? Saunders? Garland? Oswalt? Some combination?
by Anthony Emerson on Jan 13, 2012 8:44 PM EST reply actions
Brandon Webb
Ben Sheets
Julian Tavarez
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yes, yes he is
we need a guy whose arm wont fall off
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Oswalt and maybe Garland
If Bard works out then you have a super-solid rotation if not
you’ve got Garland/Cook/Silva battling it out for the 5 and a super-strong pen
Well, here's to Pineda being the next Joba
and to Kuroda badly showing his age (so disappointed in him). Championships are not won in winter. We really should know that.
All I will say is be happy Montero is out of the division
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Thanks. Wasn’t so happy at first about Montero. Then really happy. Now just in a state of shock.
Always wanted Kuroda, so very happy about that.
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Seattle is stupid
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And as if this night couldn't get any worse
The Celtics are getting assfucked by the Bulls. It’s not even close.
by Anthony Emerson on Jan 13, 2012 8:47 PM EST reply actions
Before you all start slitting your wrists
Pineda is young and has great stuff, but I doubt he will dominate in this division.
He has 2 pitches, throws the slider 30%+ of the time despite having a prior elbow injury in the minors, and is an extreme flyball pitcher. He lacks an out pitch against LHB, which was not a major issue in Safeco considering that park heavily suppresses lefty HR. Yankee Stadium otoh is lefty power hitter heaven. He is certainly better than anyone on the Yankees not named CC, but I am very skeptical he is a future ace.
As for Kuroda, the day I’m afraid of a 37 year old NL West pitcher who’s averaged 2.9 WAR a year over the last 3 seasons is not anytime soon.
A casual WAR projection of the Boston/NYY rotations as currently constituted, notwithstanding the fact that the Red Sox are almost certainly signing another starter, puts the Yankees barely ahead. And I’m being very conservative with these estimates especially with regards to Beckett and Lester, and weighing the fact that both new Yankee starters are moving to a far more hostile offensive environment.
Beckett/Lester combined = 8.5
Buchholz = 2.5
Bard = 2.0
Mystery #5 = 1.5
Total = 15.0
Sabathia = 6.0
Pineda = 3.0
Kuroda = 2.5
Nova = 2.5
Burnett = 1.5
Total = 15.5
Wow, the Yankees are definitely far and away superior. Yup I’m definitely going to quit on the season already. Good moves on Cashman’s part but if you’re on the ledge, try thinking rationally.
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no, no you take that shit outta here
don’t try to paint this into sunshine and brightside.
Aren’t you the guy who threw in the towel on being a Sox fan
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haha ok, won me back over with that
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Logically speaking we still stack up pretty well just based on each team's roster.
But then you look at last year’s results and how the offseason has gone so far and you jump off an effing bridge.
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by Ben Buchanan on Jan 13, 2012 9:02 PM EST up reply actions
its a bridge year
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Shouldn't we be, you know,
building a bridge TO something? We appear to be building bridges to other bridges… friggin’ meta bridges.
Everything Must Go.
Shit, man, we'll be the nth wonder of the world.
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by Ben Buchanan on Jan 13, 2012 9:04 PM EST up reply actions
It's always a bridge year
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like this

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by BoldandBrash on Jan 13, 2012 9:09 PM EST up reply actions
One question while I’m here.
What’s so bad about
Beckett
Lester
Buchholz
as top three? I bet Oswalt to Sox, then you have fine top 4
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Buchholz is injury prone, Beckett's entering an even year.
He sucks in even years.
by Anthony Emerson on Jan 13, 2012 8:51 PM EST up reply actions
2012 is an even year
So Beckett will be 4.5-7 ERA-ish.
Buchholz is completely unreliable in every way. We have one starting pitcher.
Everything Must Go.
Buchholz is half a man
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So he's a t**k?
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by BoldandBrash on Jan 13, 2012 8:53 PM EST up reply actions
o yes, he is a tink
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Beckett and Buchholz will probably be injured for half the year.
It’s an even numbered year, so Beckett might be screwed. Other than that, they’re fine on paper.
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Because it's more fun to be hysterical
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you quit on the Red Sox
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Beckett is still pouting and will be a problem all season
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I think Lester is the only one in that group that you can truly count on.
Beckett of course is always a candidate for a very good season (I think the even year thing is just utter bullshit), but he also is likely to wind up on the disabled list with a blister or something. Buchholz, I want to believe he can be consistent, but one way or another he hasn’t been. He looked legitimately good last year before he got hurt, he was lucky good the year before, he’s had injuries he’s had failures, he’s been all over the place.
In a world where all are healthy, there is nothing wrong with that as a top 3, it’s a very good top three, but there is a lot that can go wrong with it.
I am Sandy's bitch.
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End of the day, I am glad Montero is out of the division
He was likely not going to be a Piazza or Miguel Cabrera but the last goddamn thing the Yankees need is another .300 30HR hitter with upside.
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Interesting factoid from ESPN
More from @ESPNStatsInfo RT/ Michael Pineda had 4.73 ERA in 9 starts against the AL East last season & was 3.29 vs other opponents.
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Right, we'll finish at 83-79, not 81-81
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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 13, 2012 10:26 PM EST up reply actions
They might be able to win 85-90
depending what the injuries are.
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by BoldandBrash on Jan 13, 2012 10:39 PM EST up reply actions
90 wins is a pretty good season,
if you don’t think about how poorly the team is/was run and how expensive some of the players are. St. Louis won 90 games last year.
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by BoldandBrash on Jan 13, 2012 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
St Louis played in a weaker league
I don’t know that 90 wins even gets the second wild card, the Angels and Rays would be up there too.
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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 13, 2012 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
It probably won't get us anywhere, but it got STL a championship.
and somehow they beat a real team.
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by BoldandBrash on Jan 13, 2012 10:48 PM EST up reply actions
I think Detroit probably beats the Cardinals.
Texas is pretty good at choking at the last minute.
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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 13, 2012 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
which is my point
Whatever gets you into the playoffs is pretty good. With TB and NYY in our division, can we make it? Probably not, but that’s just the way the division is.
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by BoldandBrash on Jan 13, 2012 10:56 PM EST up reply actions
MFY now looking for a hitter
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I doubt they go big. I definitely see Carlos Pena as a fit, but not sure if they would do it. They claimed him in Aug
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I could see Damon being brought back
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I hate free agency
Meh I hope not. I prefer Matsui for personal reasons.
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I hate free agency
I'd deal Crawford for Werth right now
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by Ben Buchanan on Jan 13, 2012 9:10 PM EST up reply actions
I disagree
His offense is entirely driven by BABIP, and he can’t be a defensive player in our left field.
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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 13, 2012 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
I think Crawford will improve, Werth stay consistently where he is now
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by Anthony Emerson on Jan 13, 2012 9:12 PM EST up reply actions
Werth or Crawford?
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both?
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by BoldandBrash on Jan 13, 2012 9:18 PM EST up reply actions
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He's doing his Ben Cherington impression...
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That cat...
… is now our # 4 starter.
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by nuthinboutnuthin on Jan 13, 2012 9:22 PM EST up reply actions
The only pleasure I get out of this is that Pineda is going to crash and burn in Yankee Stadium and the AL East.
Plus we don’t have to hear about how good Montero is anymore. That said he is much better than anything we got for #4 and #5.
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Worth 7.8 total WAR during his last two injury plagued years
If we made him available, there would be interest.
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Thats my point actually
He has much more value at 1B than 3B, and he is clearly not going to be playing at 1B at anytime soon, so why not get some prospects out of him?
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by Dustin's #1 Fan on Jan 13, 2012 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
We're not competing, who cares?
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