Red Sox To Meet With Vicente Padilla
by Marc Normandin on Jan 12, 2012 2:28 PM EST
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PrintAccording to MLB Trade Rumors, via Francisco Jarquín Soto of the Nicaraguan paper El Nuevo Diario, the Red Sox will meet with pitcher Vicente Padilla so that team doctors can check in on his health status. Padilla, who missed almost all of 2011 recovering from elbow surgery and then neck surgery -- a microdisectomy, if you want to be specific -- is likely a low-cost option with some high rewards, assuming his body is ready to cooperate.
Padilla isn't the best starter out there, by any means, but a healthy Padilla is a solid pitcher. Since 2009, he owns a 98 ERA+, 6.8 strikeouts per nine, and a K/BB ratio of 2.3. That's in just 251 innings, due to the surgery problems cited above, but given the cost of acquiring him at this late stage, the potential production is worth the risk.
It's not clear at this stage what Padilla's role would be were Boston to sign him, but given his experience (and success) in the bullpen, combined with his mostly starter-oriented career, it's easy to envision him as the 2012 version of last year's Alfredo Aceves lottery ticket.
He could start if they need him to. He could also relieve. Or he could perform the kind of role discussed yesterday in regards to Aaron Cook, combining with Daniel Bard in a tandem starter role in order to lighten the former reliever's load in his transition to the rotation. There is room on the roster somewhere for an arm like Padilla's, especially with reports coming out of Nicaragua that his neck is pain-free, and his fastball is in the mid-90s.
Update 4:48 pm: Jon Heyman says the Red Sox and Padilla are "moving toward a deal", so it sounds like his body checked out. I do wonder if they figured out why he sweats so much, though. He's the Red Sox' answer to Freddy Garcia, that's for sure.
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We should have him and Aceves pitch whole games together
And then the Red Sox will have the record for most beanballs in one game.
by The Name is Dalton on Jan 12, 2012 2:48 PM EST reply actions
If the Sox sign him expect a brawl when he pitches against the Yankees. He hates Mark Teixeira, and I think Teixeira hates him back.
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Teixeira does hate him
I think it goes back to when they were both on the Rangers. Padilla would consistently throw at and hit batters and of course in the AL opposing teams respond by hitting your top hitters. Teixeira was the target alot, and he isn’t the first teammate that Padilla pissed off because of it.
At least, that was the general understanding of why they animosity is there that I got.
by The Name is Dalton on Jan 12, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
Yep, plus
In 17 PA against Padilla, Tex has a 1.271 OPS, two home runs, and three plunkings.
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by nuthinboutnuthin on Jan 12, 2012 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
Ha, doesn’t he throw a 55 MPH slurve too?
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by Marc Normandin on Jan 12, 2012 4:47 PM EST up reply actions
Sure, lets just sign ever douchebag player and put them on one team
Seems like a good idea, works for the Jets and Eagles, right?
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I'm starting to like this 'tandem starter' idea
Outside the box enough that it sounds like something Bill James would come up with/endorse. It would keep Bard’s (or Aceves) innings down as he builds the stamina as a starter. It would also keep whoever is the 2nd half of the ‘tandem’ stretched out a bit for if/when someone else in the rotation needs a DL stint or Bard fails as a SP. In theory it would also limit the strain on the bullpen as well if you are getting ~8 innings out of the two pitchers every five days.
It's one of those things
Along with “super relievers”, I wish everyone would attempt to do.
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by Marc Normandin on Jan 12, 2012 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
Seems like a market inefficiency ripe to be exploited
Find two reasonable quality arms that have trouble going deep into games, but show some ability to miss bats for two times thru the lineup before wearing down and pair them up. Maybe Felix or Wilson fit this category too?
Like this one!
http://www.overthemonster.com/2011/6/9/2215366/wakefield-and-aceves-combine-into-voltron-starter
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by Marc Normandin on Jan 12, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
Wakefield Hangover
I got one every time he took the mound. I would have to reach for the vodka.
Which is pretty much what happens with Padilla...
… except he’s the one reaching for the vodka
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by nuthinboutnuthin on Jan 12, 2012 6:34 PM EST up reply actions
What about...
…regularly letting starters relieve on their ‘bullpen days’, instead of in emergencies?
Does "tandem" starter
Essentially mean that every fifth day you have two pitchers who go 4 innings each? Or do you mean you have one go as a normal starter should shoot for (6+) for half the year and another do the same for the second half. If it is the former I don’t really think it helps the bullpen necessarily but I’m probably misinterpreting what is meant by that.
If it is the second then I agree. It would be good to have a #5 and #6 guys who can give you 15 starts each instead of trying to overstretch one guy for 20+ starts when he might not be able to.
by The Name is Dalton on Jan 12, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
Ah nevermind. I see above more what you're talking about.
I guess if you absolutely can’t find a #5 guy who can go 5-6+ innings it would be something.
by The Name is Dalton on Jan 12, 2012 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
Basically
You assume that your first guy is going to go 5, and you have the second guy ready to go on those days in case he is needed earlier for multiple innings. Rather than have to start using middle relievers in the sixth to bridge to setup/closer.
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by Marc Normandin on Jan 12, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
I've always dreamed of this...
… Vicente Padilla having his own reality show where he, Vin Baker, Albert Haynesworth and Baker’s posse stagger around Boston partying, boozing and getting in fights. It’s like the Jersey Shore, except… Well, no, it’s exactly like the Jersey Shore.
Oh. Upon reading the article, we apparently want him to pitch. Huh.
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by nuthinboutnuthin on Jan 12, 2012 3:48 PM EST reply actions
From Jon Heyman:
#redsox and vicente padilla are moving toward a deal
by South Coast Ghost on Jan 12, 2012 4:46 PM EST reply actions
Fuck
This team is getting really unlikable. Save us Pedey and Adrian!
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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 12, 2012 5:05 PM EST up reply actions
But he throws an eephus!
And hey, at least he’s not Josh Lueke or Luke Scott.
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by Marc Normandin on Jan 12, 2012 5:08 PM EST up reply actions
No, he's not that bad
but he’s sitting around Lackey-level dislike.
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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 12, 2012 5:12 PM EST up reply actions
Let's get Garza next!
..and Farnsworth! And that skinny guy from Baltimore who threw behind Youks head and was with the Nationals last time I looked.
..and that guy who threw the pizza slice! I think he’s left handed.
Kevin Gregg Uber Alles!
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by nuthinboutnuthin on Jan 12, 2012 6:34 PM EST up reply actions
We should get Farnsworth....
For the sole reason that when Padilla (if he makes the majors) starts 35 bench clearing brawls we will need a bad ass like Farnsworth to run out and just start suplexing everyone.
by The Name is Dalton on Jan 12, 2012 6:52 PM EST up reply actions
Oswalt is like Aceves
In that he’s a pitcher who could be pretty good, but might have a bad back ruin it all. Difference being he will be expensive relative to other options around with either similar issues or fewer.
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by Marc Normandin on Jan 12, 2012 5:15 PM EST up reply actions
Or, in other words
Oswalt would be good, but I’d want the depth they signed around, too.
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by Marc Normandin on Jan 12, 2012 5:17 PM EST up reply actions
Hope that's the case but get the feeling its going to be
But hey we brought in a bunch of guys to compete!
I think New GM Ben Cherington should invest in a gorilla suit.
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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 12, 2012 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
It's in the Ace Ticket booth near the Garden
Auctioned off for charity a few years ago
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by Marc Normandin on Jan 12, 2012 6:17 PM EST up reply actions
Say whatever you'd like about Padilla
But remember: every piece of starting pitching depth signed puts Andrew Miller one step further from pitching in the majors in 2012.
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Vicente Padilla is not the answer...
… unless the question is “Who is that drunken asshole who beaned the nine and leadoff hitter before giving up a home run?”
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by nuthinboutnuthin on Jan 12, 2012 6:32 PM EST reply actions
Aw man
I just realized it’s conceivable that Pawtucket could have a rotation of Cook/Silva/Padilla/Dice-K/Lackey at some point late in the year.
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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 12, 2012 7:50 PM EST up reply actions
Speier contradictsHeyman.
On Twitter says they’re still only talking to Padilla.
Do you think national sportswriters...
… sit around a giant table in their shadowy secret headquarters and plot the demise of this puckish upstart Speier, who has the audacity to report stories based on actual facts?
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by nuthinboutnuthin on Jan 13, 2012 12:57 AM EST up reply actions
It's simple, we kill the Speier
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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 13, 2012 9:21 AM EST up reply actions
You want a likable player?
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I love how, if not for the slight stutter
It would look like an endless line of Oswalts entering the clubhouse
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by Marc Normandin on Jan 12, 2012 9:33 PM EST up reply actions
Also...
I’m not against the idea of Oswalt. It just hasn’t sounded like it’s friendly towards the team who signs him just yet.
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Eh
If it’s a one year deal it doesn’t get too much friendlier (spelling?). If Kuroda were out there for like $7-8 million then saving the $3-4 million would be worth it to some teams.
But when the alternatives (albeit cheap alternatives) are guys like Garland, Francis or Brad Penny then I would rather they just spend the money.
by The Name is Dalton on Jan 13, 2012 8:13 AM EST up reply actions
Hey now
Garland is a much better option than Francis or Penny. He’s boring but effective. The others stink.
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by Marc Normandin on Jan 13, 2012 8:59 AM EST up reply actions
Garland was in my pick 5
And I’ve said a bunch he would be good enough to eat innings without being as bad as Lackey, Wake and Miller.
by The Name is Dalton on Jan 13, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
I just have to keep him away from Penny/Francis
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by Marc Normandin on Jan 13, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
The only good thing about Penny
Is he somehow attracts hot women.
by The Name is Dalton on Jan 13, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
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