BZ's Pick-5: Update 3
by BobZupcic on Jan 11, 2012 11:17 AM EST
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Here is an update on the action as of today: 1/18/2012
Elsewhere: Bedard (PIT), Bell (FL), Beltran (STL), Breslow (ARZ), Broxton (KC), Buerhle (FL), Cahill (ARZ), Capuano (LAD), Capps (MIN), Darvish (TEX), Gonzalez (WAS), Harang (LAD), Ludwick (CIN), Madson (CIN), Maholm (CHC), Nathan (TEX), Ramirez (MIL), Rodriguez (MIL), Saunders (ARZ), Sherrill (SEA), Willingham (MIN), Willis (PHI), Wilson (LAA), Zumaya (MIN)
In the Fold: Ortiz, Shoppach, Bailey, Ross
Contenders already out of the running: BobZupcic, Dave D, LesterJohn, Revived0103
Current Leader(s): aubatron2011
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Ortiz, D. |
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royredd87 |
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Ortiz, D. |
Varitek, J. |
Wakefield, T. |
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Wakefield, T. |
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Jackson, E. |
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Headley, C. |
Jackson, E. |
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Jackson, E. |
Ortiz, D. |
Wakefield, T. |
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The lack of off-season activity has taken its toll on the Pick 5
an Oswalt or (god forbid) Tek and/or Wake signing could throw some excitement into the mix
Just a quick correction: Madson wound up in Cincinnati, right? Not Philly?
And I swear I saw somewhere that Wheeler had agreed to a deal with someone, which derailed my hopes for a darkhorse come back fueled by Wheeler and Oswalt.
Or am I confused? Was I having a bad dream that Wheeler chose the Pittsburgh Pirates, much like Bedard?
And what is it with us losing pitchers to the NL Central this year??
I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.
Wait ’til next year!
I can't find a Wheeler deal, though... so that must have been a dream.
I still have a shot… c’mon, Oswalt!
I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.
Wait ’til next year!
Oh, and how far did Madson fall?
A deal vetoed by ownership in Philly for 4 years/$48 million (somewhere around there, right?) to a one year, $8.5 million deal with the Reds.
Ouch.
I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.
Wait ’til next year!
Pretty sure it was 44 million
but that doesn’t take the sting away.
You build on failure. You use it as a stepping stone. Close the door on the past. You don't try to forget the mistakes, but you don't dwell on it. You don't let it have any of your energy, or any of your time, or any of your space.
-Johnny Cash
by TheLoneDavid on Jan 11, 2012 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
well at the time
all the rumors were that Kuroda was going to stay with the Dodgers or retire- and he had just rejected a trade to the Sox a few months ago
I keep waiting for the Roy Oswalt deal to put me in the lead.
I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.
Wait ’til THIS year!
At this point
I think it’s more likely that KW shocks the baseball world and sends us John Danks for a used hankie.
Ben Cherington, not very good at this.
"There's something out there, beyond the horizon in the corner of your eye. I'm going to find out what it is."
-Thomas Solomon, Gentleman Adventurer.
by TheLoneDavid on Jan 18, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
on what basis, really?
he’s pulled off a couple of very good trades. You’re ridiculously down on him considering that he’s taking over with practically no money and we haven’t yet made it to spring training, so we don’t have a real idea of who will actually be on the roster. I can definitely understand concern, and I’m concerned, but you’re acting as if he’s destroyed everything while, frankly, if he can get us Floyd, Danks (nearly impossible, I’m sure), or Oswalt, this is a very, very good team.
He pulled off trades that didn't need to be pulled off
he’s only filled holes he made himself.
"There's something out there, beyond the horizon in the corner of your eye. I'm going to find out what it is."
-Thomas Solomon, Gentleman Adventurer.
by TheLoneDavid on Jan 18, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
In your opinion he has.
But he probably would disagree with you.
by aubatron2011 on Jan 18, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
He made the bullpen a hole and then filled it back in
That’s pretty firmly established fact at this point, he can disagree all he wants, he’d be wrong.
I am Sandy's bitch.
Penn State Forever
well the pen right now
is significantly stronger than when he came in, regardless of whether Bard is in it or not. And will be next year as well.
In any case, the teams certainly isn’t worse in any way. If he does get a starter the team is better.
But then pen without Papelbon and Bard as closer
With Wilson, Doubront, Weiland, Tazawa and Aceves filling it, would probably still be a pretty damn strong pen, it wouldn’t have forced the Sweeney and Punto moves and we’d have about $5M more to spend on starting pitching, the real big hole we had. He took the pen from an 8 to a 9, and it looks at the expense of the rotation.
I am Sandy's bitch.
Penn State Forever
but it's still premature to assume that this IS the rotation
if he still gets pitching, and gets it cheap, then he’s done a very good job, improving both the pen and the rotation, while giving Bard a chance to prove he can start- with plenty of safety blankets behind him.
I hardly think the Punto thing was forced. Punto looks to me like a better fit for this team- a great defensive player who is happy to be a backup, and their salaries are probably a wash (Punto makes $300k more than Lowrie if they settle at the midpoint). My personal opinion is that Melancon and Punto is much better for the Sox than Lowrie and Weiland- and the price is essentially the same.
So the Bailey move is a question. If they get more pitching, they got Bailey super-cheap. If they don’t, it was probably a bad move. Like I said above, obviously it makes sense to be concerned with the pitching, but to say that Cherington is bad at his job based on what he has done is premature until there’s actually no other moves he can make
And the team also hasn't played a meaningful game yet.
To say he’s bad at his job, when we haven’t seen the completed roster, and the way the team plays on the field, is very premature.
by aubatron2011 on Jan 18, 2012 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
With three quarters of the offseason behind us
And no certified solid pitching added, it’s becoming easier and easier to assume.
All I can do is evaluate what he’s done, all he’s done it open a hole in the bullpen and fill it up while signing scrubs for depth. I like the depth this year more than last year, largely because Miller is pushed the bottom of a deep pile, but we’re half way through January with only 3 rotation spots nailed down in certainty with more noise that we won’t be adding payroll than that we will.
I am Sandy's bitch.
Penn State Forever
As Marc pointed out.
On Floyd article, that “noise” is hard to tell what the truth is. Yes Heyman said they won’t be giving out gauranteed money, but Gammons, who probably knows more about the Sox thinking than just about anybody, said they could. I’d trust Gammons more than Heyman on matters pertaining to the Sox.
by aubatron2011 on Jan 18, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know...
“Won’t add guaranteed deals” is rather specific for Heyman and the evidence we do have supports the theory.
I am Sandy's bitch.
Penn State Forever
I still trust Gammons more than Heyman when it comes to the Sox.
Consider the fact that Heyman is frequently on the YES network. He might be right, but that could also be a little biased on his opinion.
by aubatron2011 on Jan 18, 2012 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
if we're quoting
the quote was "#redsox not expecting to offer guaranteed deals to free-agent pitchers. "
doesn’t say won’t, and doesn’t rule out trades. Could be they’re expecting to trade for a starter, but were willing to offer a guaranteed deal if a trade fell through, could be they aren’t spending a dime. Could be incorrect.
As Aubatron says, when Gammons says that they’re already over the luxury tax and would probably get Oswalt if they could for $7-8 million, I believe him.
If they would get Oswalt for 8 million
and Oswalt is looking for 8 million.
Why is Oswalt not in Boston?
"There's something out there, beyond the horizon in the corner of your eye. I'm going to find out what it is."
-Thomas Solomon, Gentleman Adventurer.
by TheLoneDavid on Jan 18, 2012 5:39 PM EST up reply actions
Gammons take was
Oswalt was waiting out Darvish because that was his first choice for where to pitch (I guess him and Maddux are friends). So I’m guessing that wherever Oswalt goes, it’ll happen soon.
So... now that Darvish has officially signed...
How long do we wait for the Oswalt signing to be announced?
I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.
Wait ’til THIS year!
I'm sure he'll be a Tiger before the end of the night.
"There's something out there, beyond the horizon in the corner of your eye. I'm going to find out what it is."
-Thomas Solomon, Gentleman Adventurer.
by TheLoneDavid on Jan 18, 2012 8:37 PM EST up reply actions
don't you think offense might be a greater need?
given recent events? I mean, they’re a pretty solid team all around anyways, but I feel like VMart is more important to replace than Brad Penny.
Maybe he and his agent haven't really come down to 8 million.
Kuroda got $10, and until this season Oswalt was better than Kuroda, and given the fact he’s three years younger and the back problems might be cleared up and manageable, his agent could have bumped up his asking price.
by aubatron2011 on Jan 18, 2012 10:18 PM EST up reply actions
Oswalt is younger than Kuroda?
I’ve never thought the back issues were an actual problem, so hate to think this might actually be true.
I really want an Oswalt for our rotation.
I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.
Wait ’til THIS year!
And Jerry Crasnick,
who’s a very repituible (sp) baseball reporter from ESPN said last night right now it probably would take $10-12 million for Oswalt.
by aubatron2011 on Jan 19, 2012 7:36 AM EST up reply actions
Ugh.
Why do I think that has to do with the fact that there are very few options left?
So much for waiting out the market…
I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.
Wait ’til THIS year!
Well, he more pointed that.
What I said about the differences between Kuroda and Oswalt, and the fact that Kuroda got $10 million.
by aubatron2011 on Jan 19, 2012 5:13 PM EST up reply actions
Right, however... if we sign Oswalt before Kuroda...
… then that isn’t a factor.
So, the idea was we would wait for the market to come to us, and instead the Yankees snatched up Kuroda and the resulting math is Oswalt is more expensive that we previously thought.
I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.
Wait ’til THIS year!
True, but maybe he's wrong in his reporting.
I mean I know you don’t think the back issues are that big of a deal, but he is 34, not 24, and back problems aren’t just going to go a way. Whereas Kuroda didn’t have any major health problems.
by aubatron2011 on Jan 19, 2012 6:52 PM EST up reply actions
I'll keep my fingers crossed we sign him.
I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.
Wait ’til THIS year!
those are all things i agree with
except that the pen is better now than it would be with Bard and Weiland and no Melancon and Bailey; Way better if Bard is in the pen and someone like Cook or Padilla is healthy enough to take the fifth spot, but still better, even if Bard ends up in to rotation.
in the end, the thing I was taking exception to is this, which wasn’t from you:
Ben Cherington, not very good at this.
Because it’s premature. Yes, I agree, we’ll be screwed if we don’t get another actual starting pitcher, and yes, seeing people getting signed and traded for makes me more concerned- I’m not saying he’s doing an amazing job, just that it’s too early to say he’s doing a bad job.
The only thing I don't like
is how Reddick and Lowrie are both high upside players, unline Punto and Sweeney.
I do think that Reddick can be a competent starter
and has potential to be the piece we miss most of what we’ve traded.
And Reddick is the kind of guy
Who could’ve been traded for a good starter.
As part of a package?
How about Gavin Floyd? Scott Baker?
"There's something out there, beyond the horizon in the corner of your eye. I'm going to find out what it is."
-Thomas Solomon, Gentleman Adventurer.
by TheLoneDavid on Jan 18, 2012 5:37 PM EST up reply actions
sure he could be part of a package
but he’s not an impact player that would make a package obtainable or unobtainable
Maybe with Doubront?
That’s an interesting consideration…
I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.
Wait ’til THIS year!
I think we sold Reddick at the peak of his value.
And got a young, cost controlled closer in return.
Not a perfect deal, but unless Reddick suddenly shows that plate discipline can be maintained for a full season, it probably ends up as a win for us.
And I love Lowrie, and worry that we traded away our SS of the future, but the fact also remains that he couldn’t stay on the field. I think we sold low there, and I’m not really happy about it… but Melancon is a good piece in our bullpen who might even be dangled as a closer to needy teams next All-Star Break if we have a surplus of quality bullpen arms.
So… I like the Reddick deal, don’t love the Lowrie one, but our team is probably better for them.
I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.
Wait ’til THIS year!
Yet you'd be relying upon
A guy who has good stuff but has shown little as a reliever (Weiland), A guy who came into camp overweight and has shown nothing lately (Doubront), a guy transitioning to a relief role who has no ML experience (Wilson) and a guy coming off a major injury/surgery (Tazawa) who was also primarily a starter…..tht pen “could be damn strong” is a pretty large leap of faith.
I think most Sox fans if forced to look at a pen anchored by Bard and then having Albers/Aceves as the prime setup men would not score that an 8 out of 10.
It was a good pen last year, and it only lost one member.
With such a long list of borderline MLB starters to be a reliever, at least one would hit. Tazawa looked great after his surgery, maybe stronger than he was before it. There are far worse candidates to fill a bullpen with than our pitching prospects in AAA and most of our relievers last year were minor league starters who were converted, they fit the mold. Plus a pen is only as good as the rotation it backs…
I am Sandy's bitch.
Penn State Forever
Yes it was a good pen
That relied heavily on Albers and Aceves both of who had career years (well Albers came back to Earth mightily after a career start to the year). Plus you take Bard out of the critical role of setup and move him into the less critical role of saves and someone has to step into this high leverage innings……Weiland? Doubront? Albers?
Why not?
Add Tazawa in too, I think he has a ton of potential in the pen. Relief pitching is the easiest job in baseball outside left field. Wilson too, any one of those guys could just as easily put up a Melancon-esque season as converted players.
I am Sandy's bitch.
Penn State Forever
If that's true how come some many pitchers suck at relieving?
I mean if we can just throw any joe at the 8th inning
I'm not suggesting a 100% success rate
I’m saying one of those bastards would get the job done just fine. When you have a pool of borderline MLB starters like we do, almost certainly one is going to turn in a noteworthy season. It happened last year with Aceves, Albers and to a lesser extent Morales, and I’m not sure any of them come from as good of a stock as Weiland/Wilson/Tazawa/Doubront.
I am Sandy's bitch.
Penn State Forever
Basically, we do the same thing with a random bullpen slot
that we’re trying to do now with the 5th spot in the rotation.
"There's something out there, beyond the horizon in the corner of your eye. I'm going to find out what it is."
-Thomas Solomon, Gentleman Adventurer.
by TheLoneDavid on Jan 18, 2012 6:12 PM EST up reply actions
True
"There's something out there, beyond the horizon in the corner of your eye. I'm going to find out what it is."
-Thomas Solomon, Gentleman Adventurer.
by TheLoneDavid on Jan 18, 2012 6:32 PM EST up reply actions
Except I have way more faith in scrub starter A to put up 60-70 decent innings of relief
Than 180 innings of starts.
I am Sandy's bitch.
Penn State Forever
Agreed.
"There's something out there, beyond the horizon in the corner of your eye. I'm going to find out what it is."
-Thomas Solomon, Gentleman Adventurer.
by TheLoneDavid on Jan 18, 2012 6:59 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, I'm not saying
That some guy from AAA can’t put up a decent year of relief… Just that I’d be hard pressed to trust said reliever with the “Bard Innings”
that doesn't mean they weren't good trades
frankly, our team is better with those trades than it was without. We have a glaring hole, which is a starting pitcher. Other than that, we have some smaller holes, like right field, which will almost certainly give us better production than last year as it is right now.
I’ll agree he’s looking pretty bad if we go into spring training with our rotation as it is, but until it’s a definite thing that it will be, you can’t really say he’s not very good at this.
Yes, even I have to concede this.
And I’m the founding member of the BLAAAARGH OMFG SIGN STARTERS camp.
If Bard wins 15 games next year, and does well as a starter, Ben will have a big pat on the back for that. Clearly, Bard has more value if he’s successful as a starter and at the end of the day, Ben’s moves have improved the team (even if I’ll miss Lowrie, and – well… not so much Reddick).
I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.
Wait ’til THIS year!
And if he gets a starter
be it Oswalt, Floyd, Jackson, or some unknown guy right now, and Bard bombs as a starter in ST, the pen would be even stronger, and the team would be even better.
by aubatron2011 on Jan 18, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
We don't have enough prospects to get Lincecum's Double-Double wrappers.
"There's something out there, beyond the horizon in the corner of your eye. I'm going to find out what it is."
-Thomas Solomon, Gentleman Adventurer.
by TheLoneDavid on Jan 18, 2012 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
He's asking for like 22 million in arb.
We take most of that, maybe offer Ellsbury. That might even get some animal fries and a neopolitan shake.
You are aware of the cash flow problems this team is having?
Even after we offer Ellsbury, WMB, Bogaerts and Buchholz for Lincecum?
Well first of all I think that Ellsbury would go a long way
towards getting Lincecum, if we were also taking most of his salary. Getting rid of Scutaro’s contract would also help. The financial problems are debatable. The team is nowhere near bankrupt, and after a few years of correction their payroll will look a lot cleaner. Ellsbury, WMB, maybe Ranaudo and salary relief for Lincecum.
Only CF.
The holes are in the rotation.
by revived0103 on Jan 18, 2012 10:19 PM EST up reply actions
Crawford and Sweeny aren't solutions at either position.
"There's something out there, beyond the horizon in the corner of your eye. I'm going to find out what it is."
-Thomas Solomon, Gentleman Adventurer.
by TheLoneDavid on Jan 18, 2012 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
Crawford is the solution in left for now.
He’s a good enough player that he probably won’t kill us. Sweeney is one of those guys that with a lucky bounce could help the team for a couple years, but yes it could look pretty ugly offensively for a while.
by revived0103 on Jan 18, 2012 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
Probably no worse than RF in 2011, though.
When you look at what we actually got in production from that spot for the year.
Sweeney, especially in a platoon with McDonald or Aviles, probably provides us a boost in offense out there.
I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.
Wait ’til THIS year!
Crawford won't kill us? I disagree
"There's something out there, beyond the horizon in the corner of your eye. I'm going to find out what it is."
-Thomas Solomon, Gentleman Adventurer.
by TheLoneDavid on Jan 19, 2012 9:47 AM EST up reply actions
Yes, this is such a painful reminder.
I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.
Wait ’til THIS year!
well, it's 2012 now
can we just reboot and stop posting pictures of that? Cuz it makes me F*CKING ANGRY.
Fine.
I’ll live in the past.
For me, it’s Game 3 of the 2004 ALCS, and Timmy Wakefield is mopping up as we get absolutely plastered by the Yankees. Fenway is silent, and all of our history is welling up against us.
But since I’m living in the past, with all the knowledge I have today… I know that this is just the beginning of a glorious 8 game stretch that I could relive over and over again.
I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.
Wait ’til THIS year!
Don't forget to place big money bets on the Red Sox to win the ALCS
and on the score of each game, how many innings each game goes, and who gets the winning hit.
"There's something out there, beyond the horizon in the corner of your eye. I'm going to find out what it is."
-Thomas Solomon, Gentleman Adventurer.
by TheLoneDavid on Jan 19, 2012 4:28 PM EST up reply actions
Ha ha ha!
Now, that’s just being greedy.
I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.
Wait ’til THIS year!
It's being fiscally smart
make your money before the economy falls apart.
"There's something out there, beyond the horizon in the corner of your eye. I'm going to find out what it is."
-Thomas Solomon, Gentleman Adventurer.
by TheLoneDavid on Jan 19, 2012 4:54 PM EST up reply actions
He looked so clueless and nervous to me
on that play. I still believe in this guy. I know he didn’t suddenly become bad at baseball.
by revived0103 on Jan 19, 2012 11:30 PM EST up reply actions
I want to.
However, that play looks very much like he’s bad at baseball.
I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.
Wait ’til THIS year!
From my lengthy calculations
it looks like an Oswalt signing would pretty much put it in the bag for aubatron
What if they sign Wheeler to a 5 year, $15 million deal?
Damn… I can’t win this thing??
I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.
Wait ’til THIS year!
I wasn't going to make a big deal about that. I'm actually amazed I got beyond Ortiz right.
by aubatron2011 on Jan 19, 2012 8:53 PM EST up reply actions
The Bailey one was one I didn't want to see us do.
Of course, that’s when I thought we’d just go with Bard as the closer, not try to convert him into a starter.
I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.
Wait ’til THIS year!
I didn't think Bard would be the closer,
cause I thought the Sox were thinking like some people that he didn’t have the “closer mentality” whatever the fuck that means. I thought he would stay in the 8 inning and they would acquire a closer.
by aubatron2011 on Jan 19, 2012 11:05 PM EST up reply actions
Which was where I had Broxton...
… not that Bard couldn’t do it, but that they’d get someone like that as insurance in case Bard couldn’t do it.
I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.
Wait ’til THIS year!
I only picked Bailey because while Broxton would have been nice.
And Bailey had his own injury issues, I was just worried about Broxton’s injury more. Shoulder injuries for pitchers are nothing to screw around with.
by aubatron2011 on Jan 20, 2012 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
Just throwing this out there
if we signed my five guys, or even 4 of my five (leaving out Cespedes) we’d be a much, much better team.
"There's something out there, beyond the horizon in the corner of your eye. I'm going to find out what it is."
-Thomas Solomon, Gentleman Adventurer.
Better than having 140 million over seven
in a left fielder who can’t left field.
"There's something out there, beyond the horizon in the corner of your eye. I'm going to find out what it is."
-Thomas Solomon, Gentleman Adventurer.
by TheLoneDavid on Jan 19, 2012 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
But that was a sunk cost before you spent another $27 million.
I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.
Wait ’til THIS year!
I think you could say that about most of these.
by aubatron2011 on Jan 20, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
Most of the regulars, yeah.
Some of these I was like “are you high?”
"There's something out there, beyond the horizon in the corner of your eye. I'm going to find out what it is."
-Thomas Solomon, Gentleman Adventurer.
by TheLoneDavid on Jan 21, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
Sounds like Scutaro's getting close to being traded.
Could this mean the Sox are going to sign a SP soon?
BZ back to work
Time to bold all those Mortenson picks we had…
I am Sandy's bitch.
Penn State Forever
A Cody Ross signing and an Edwin Jackson makes Wolf a dark horse candidate at this point.
I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.
Wait ’til THIS year!
Yup... BZ had noted that previously.
Much to my dismay… I would need Oswalt and Wheeler, with Wheeler getting a bigger deal than Bailey has for the win…
I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.
Wait ’til THIS year!
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