Jacoby Ellsbury’s Arbitration Case
Tuesday, Ben took a look at the off-season budget crunch the Red Sox face after this season ends.
Looking back at arbitration cases, Tom Tango has shown that second year arbitration awards tend to be around 50-60% of a player’s expected free agent compensation price. What price would the free market assign Jacoby Ellsbury? Based soley on his fWAR, fangraphs puts Ellsbury’s 2011 dollar value at a ridiculous $36.5M. I doubt even Scott Boars would claim the centerfielder should be paid anything near that. Averaging his value over the past four seasons with the same dollar-win figures, gives us a far more reasonable price of $16.6M. That will be much closer to the salary Ells might land as a free agent and
The arbitration board does not use fWAR or fangraph’s dollar-win pricing model, however, even if
The first point of consideration is fairly easy- Ellsbury has been the lead-off man and offensive sparkplug for
Among the arbitration eligible for next season, there is just one centerfielder, Adam Jones of the Baltimore Orioles. Jones is making $3.25M for 2011, more than Ellsbury’s base salary of $2.4M, but he is a poor comparison at this point. The only other centerfielder to be arbitration eligible this year would have been an excellent comparison- the Ranger’s Josh Hamilton.
Will the Red Sox or baseball’s arbitration board value Ellsbury that much?
It is difficult question to answer. Jacoby’s 2011 season doesn’t allow for many other comparisons. By fWAR, he has already passed 2007 NL MVP Ryan Howard in value. Howard’s $10M figure is the highest arbitration award given to any position player. However, Howard lead the league in home runs and in RBI’s that season and helped an underdog Phillies team reach the playoff with an incredible September performance. He had also won the 2006 NL Rookie of the Year award. Ellsbury hardly even played in 2010 and his 2008 season was only good enough to give him a third place finish in
By way of comparable players, it does become a bit clearer. Much like
Regardless whether Ellsbury takes the Sox to arbitration or settles with them, it is clear that he will be receiving a salary bump of at least 100-150% for next season. It is possible he and Boars will seek a record breaking number. The Red Sox have tried hard to avoid arbitration, but Ellsbury’s case is becoming a perfect storm. When the 2011 season ends, this will be one of biggest stories of the off-season.
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I put $8-9
but in reality, I’m thinking closer to $7.5. Just not a lot of precedent I can think of (there might be some I’ve missed) for more than tripling a guy’s salary. While his numbers are nothing short of spectacular, the big card the Sox can play is that he has just one year of performing to this level, and provides pretty much no guarantee.
A comparable the Red Sox would be wise to use is Jose Bautista, who had some unimpressive production most of his career, he had a great month in 2009 and a phenomenal year in 2010, then went on to sign an extension which paid only $8 million in his final year of arbitration. Using that, they could make a pretty solid argument for keeping Ellsbury down around $6 million even, as it’s not even his final year of arb.
FWIW, Howard's record setting award was more than a 1000% increase
and Papelbon got a 700% raise when he and the Sox reach his deal of $6.25M in 2009. Both were first year arb players though not second year, but regardless the precedent has certain been set for deals over 300% above previous salary.
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oh well certainly for year 1, since everyone is working for minimum before arb
but after that, I can’t think of it happening
Personally, I think he makes just shy of the $10M
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And I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if he makes $10.
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What I would love to see (and probably won't happen)
I’d love Ells to not listen to anythin his agent tells him and agree with the Sox to a long term, team friendly (think Pedroia) kind of deal. That would be great. Although as I said, almost certainly won’t happen. That said, I think Ells- MVP or not- will take home $8-9M. Just my opinion.
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by Fenway302 on Sep 8, 2011 3:42 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Pardon my ignorance
But I’m not familiar with that deal.
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by Fenway302 on Sep 8, 2011 4:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Oh, he just signed a very, very team friendly extension
To the point where his agent basically said “if you want to do it, do it, but I can’t have my name attached to it” and resigned
Wow
Wouldn’t that be nice if Ells did the same? LOL.
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by Fenway302 on Sep 8, 2011 5:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
No chance
Tabata had a lifetime’s security at stake in that deal. Honestly, it made a lot of sense for him to sign that. Ellsbury will be secure regardless just based on the size of next year’s salary be it low ($5 million) or high ($10 million)
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Ells is signaling his desire for as big a salary as he can get. If he was really looking for a long term deal he would have signed it before the 2010 season when he would have gotten the security of the Sox buying out his arbitration seasons. Like Papelbon, he wants to test the free agent market as soon as possible and has confidence that he will be able to justify a major deal.
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2/17
7 this year, 10 next year. He leaves in FA.
Unless of course we swap him for Mike Minor in the offseason, right Sandy?
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Don't see an extended contract
He’s represented by Boras, if I recall correctly. While that deal doesn’t give up any FA years, it looks too low.
I put $8-9 million, but I suspect 6-8 this year since that would such a huge jump in salary.
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