An Apology From A Yankees Fan

by Wraithpk on Sep 29, 2011 5:59 PM EDT

A little over a year ago, I was fed up with all the hype over Jacoby Ellsbury. He hadn't even been better than Brett Gardner at that point in both their careers, yet Ellsbury was the player constantly being talked about on ESPN and other media outlets. I wrote this fanpost voicing my arguments against him, not to OTM in particular, but more of as a post towards Red Sox fans in general.

Well, I was wrong. Ellsbury really emerged this year as a star. I will admit, I didn't see it coming. The power outburst from him was incredible. His ISO went from .114 in 2008 and 2009 (we'll omit his injury shortened 2010) to .230 this year. Better yet, he wasn't aided by unnaturally high BABIP or HR/FB rates, so this might be the real deal.

I know your season didn't exactly end as you would have liked it, but at the very least I think you have something to look forward to with Ellsbury. See you next year.

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NObody saw that power output coming

HIs emergence this year was DEFINITELY a bright spot to this season.

by Rick Bentsen on Sep 29, 2011 6:19 PM EDT reply actions

To be fair, I don't think anyone here saw that kind of season coming.

However, I also though Brett Gardner would never be better than a fourth outfielder/defensive replacement type. I was quite wrong.

Go Sox

by MikeAtBU on Sep 29, 2011 7:22 PM EDT reply actions

sell high

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by gizmosandy on Sep 29, 2011 7:28 PM EDT reply actions

Not sure who you're going to get to replace his production

He made $2.4m this year and will probably earn $6-$7m after arbitration next year. Even if his power drops off a bit, you’re still getting great value.

by Scooby Snacks on Sep 29, 2011 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah, but when you can turn that into 3 or 4 players who present great value...

It’s tough. It’s tough to trade your MVP, and possibly the AL MVP, but it may make some sense.

Theo-trade John Lackey for a used condom and a punch in the nose. Remember, it's all about value.

by LesterJohn on Sep 30, 2011 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions

Or into Felix Hernandez!

I’m telling you, there has got to be a way to convince them that they won’t compete during the duration of the King’s contract that they should kindly swap him for our cheaper CF and a couple other OF prospects. The CF is from the Pacific Northwest and the fans would love him just as much.

"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.

by Rogue Nine on Sep 30, 2011 2:58 AM EDT up reply actions

But he's also a free agent before Felix is

so I don’t get that at all

by wolf9309 on Sep 30, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions

They can give him that extension

The one I’d be very hesitant to give him right now. It would likely be much cheaper than Hernandez’s.

"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.

by Rogue Nine on Sep 30, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions

but if they're not going to be competitive until after 2014

and they really want him, why not just wait till he hits free agency? After switching to Boras as a major league player, he’s almost certainly going to want to hit the market.

by wolf9309 on Sep 30, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions

We just need to tell them that their situation is hopeless and they need to give us Felix.

Quit poking holes in this, we have the Jedi to get this done!

"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.

by Rogue Nine on Sep 30, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions

maybe we can swap Felixes with them when they aren't looking?

by wolf9309 on Sep 30, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions

Felix has a no-trade clause, and he supposedly won’t waive it because he wants to stay in Seattle.

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by Wraithpk on Sep 30, 2011 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions

But we have the Jedi...

Why do people keep overlooking that?

"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.

by Rogue Nine on Sep 30, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions

But you'd need to have the value now, not prospects

You’d need a blockbuster package—such as for a Felix Hernandez, as Rogue suggests. You can’t trade for prospects at this stage. It has to be proven talent for proven talent—and at a net gain for the Sox. A starter only pitches thirty or so games. You’d need more than that in return.

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by lone1c on Sep 30, 2011 4:02 AM EDT up reply actions

With the title you gave, I thought you would be apologizing for

not trying to win against the Rays, so I was somewhat disappointed.

Theo-trade John Lackey for a used condom and a punch in the nose. Remember, it's all about value.

by LesterJohn on Sep 30, 2011 1:19 AM EDT reply actions

To be honest, a lot of us were surprised that Girardi put out the starting position players for that game. We had nothing to play for, and I would have rather he not risk injuries. You should have seen the guys on DRaysBay cursing Girardi out for putting in the A-team. You can’t blame him for not using our top pitchers, we need to keep them fresh for the playoffs.

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by Wraithpk on Sep 30, 2011 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions