The Red Sox Pitching Problem
During this our fortnight of discontent, the Red Sox have been positively Wasdinian (Look pops, new word!) on the mound. Since the calendar flipped to September, the Sox have lost nine of eleven games, falling to within easy shouting distance of missing the playoffs and giving life to a Rays team that was dead in the water just two weeks ago.
It's easy to look at the losses and say the team is playing like crap, but the Sox are scoring 4.9 runs a game during this stretch of futility. That isn't going to break any records but it isn't like the team isn't hitting either. No, the problem is elsewhere, as you probably guessed by the title of this post.
With all the caveats in the world about small sample size (this isn't intended to be a predictive post anyway), the starting pitching has performed horrifically in September. You'll almost certainly believe that the Red Sox starters have the worst ERA in baseball in September. You believe that? Well you should. It's true.
Of course, ERA isn't the best guess of future production but again, this is what has happened not what will happen. The Red Sox have hit just fine, but they haven't hit like the '03 Sox which, to have a chance when trotting out starters with a 6.80 ERA, they'd have to do. But if it's more advanced stats you want, it's more advanced stats you'll get. Let's look at xFIP. The Red Sox jump from last in all of baseball to third to last in all of baseball. What does this tell us? The Red Sox starters have been about as putrid in September as you thought.
So who are these denizens of putridity? The Red Sox have had seven different starting pitchers in September. Only Jon Lester has started three games, Andrew Miller has started two and so has John Lackey. Kyle Weiland, Tim Wakefield, Erik Bedard, and Josh Beckett have all started one game apiece. By my count six of the eleven games have been started by guys who were supposed to be in the rotation with the other five started by stop gaps of varying degrees (Tim Wakefield is a swing man while Kyle Weiland is a the-glass-is-already-broken-in-case-of-emergency man).
The problem is two-fold. One, crappy pitching from the guys who are supposed to be carrying the starting duties in Lackey and Lester. Beckett's contribution was 3.2 innings before getting hurt. Two, crappy pitching from guys who are crappy pitchers. The Red Sox entered the season with a deep reserve of starters, relatively speaking. They even traded for a starter at the trade deadline too. Yet still they've been forced to give starts to Andrew Miller (a.k.a. the White Flag of Surrender) and Kyle Weiland.
What can be done about this? The talent level isn't as bad as the last eleven games have looked. It just isn't. But the more the Sox have to send Weiland and Miller out there the more trouble they're going to be in. That's to say nothing of John Lackey who has been possibly the worst starting pitcher in baseball and is having among the worst seasons in franchise history. In a perfect world Lackey would pull an ERA and get sat down for a while, but the Sox simply can't do that now.
We all know what needs to happen. The team needs to pitch better. That'll happen through getting healthy. If Beckett and Bedard can come back and pitch well the team should be fine. If not, and the Sox have to continue giving starts to the White Flag of Surrender and Kyle Weiland, things aren't likely to improve but incrementally. So get healthy Josh and Erik because the Sox are going to have to win a few sometime soon.
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At some point
were are going to stop using averages, and start talking medians standard deviations. The problem with averages is that outliers distort them (sorry, I am at a conference where we are talking about analytics and data).
In September the Red Sox have scored the following:
o runs (twice)
1 run (once)
2 runs (twice)
4 runs (twice)
5 runs (once)
10 or more (3 times)
So if you look at the average, the Sox offense looks good. But in fact in nearly hald the games they have scored 2 or less runs in nearly half of the games. Of course they have lost all 5.
They also lost a game one of the games they scored 10 in. I’m not arguing the offense has been good, but I think you’ll see this kind of run scoring in most groupings of 11 games. The problem has occasionally been the offense failing to score, but other than two games it’s been awful pitching.
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by Matthew Kory on Sep 12, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
You write
" think you’ll see this kind of run scoring in most groupings of 11 games.:
I don’t think it is true. A team that scores 2 runs or less nearly half the time is a losing team. I don’t know what the deviations are over a season – but I am wiling to bet that this is unusual.
Medians are in many instances a far better picture of reality than averages. My guess is sabre metrics will start using them.
I think it's normal in a given small sample.
I don’t think it’s something you see all the time. It’s a normal variation that you see over a 162 game season. But fine, for argument’s sake, I completely conceded the point. You’re not actually saying the offense is as much or more to blame than the pitching, are you?
My post was saying, in essence, the Red Sox are losing a lot of games because the haven’t played well and the majority of that crapitude comes from their starting pitching.
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by Matthew Kory on Sep 12, 2011 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
While I agree with the post
the runs per game is misleading in this stretch-the offensive output has been:
2,9,2,0,12,4,0,14,10,4,2,5,1. 45 of the total 65 runs have come in only 4/12 games (3 wins). In 8 of the losses the Sox are averaging 2.5 runs/game. Thus, the offense has been a problem as well in a strange, inconsistent sort of way.
I'm not sure that's misleading.
I wasn’t misleading you by printing that information. That information was factual. The run scoring has been a bit hot and cold, but the pitching has been awful almost across the board. I think I showed that in my piece.
You don’t lose 9 of 11 without more than one problem though, so sure the offense could be better. But I don’t see that as the central problem.
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by Matthew Kory on Sep 12, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree
but I would claim that your second paragraph implies that the offense has been ok. However 4 of these losses are on the offense. When you lose 1-0 in 11 in a game when your ace goes down in the 4th you don’t blame the pitching, do you? The Sox offense has been a joke in 8 of those losses.
I think the offense has been OK.
They haven’t been amazing or even good (I’m pretty sure I say that in the post) but they’ve been fine. The starting pitching has been gawdawful embarrassing which I show in greater detail above. To me and in my most humble of opinions that has been the major problem in this 11 game swoon.
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by Matthew Kory on Sep 12, 2011 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
But I agree
it is not the central problem. The central problem is that Beckett and Bedard are out, everybody but Lester that can pitch blows, and Lester chose the worst time of the year to have a start that made the one the night before by Weiland look good.
Yup.
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by Matthew Kory on Sep 12, 2011 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
This rotation needs serious work for next year.
Miller, Wakefield, Aceves and Weiland should not be in the consideration at all. Beckett, Lester and Buchholz have their spots, we need 2 more assuming we can’t ever count on Bedard to be healthy, maybe just 1 if they can figure out if it’s a physical or mental thing for Lackey, there is no real explanation for him being this bad. Don’t have to be great, but league average will be a big upgrade over what we’ve been throwing out lately.
"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.
Bedard is a free agent
So who knows whether he’ll want to come back to Boston and/or if the Red Sox will want him back. That said, I’m much more worried about the 2011 Red Sox than I am the 2012.
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by Matthew Kory on Sep 12, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Can't we be equally worried about both Matthew?
Yeah we have to be worried about this year more because the season is still ongoing and the postseason hangs in the balence. But as you see in order for the Sox to stay sucessful you need to have a successful pitching rotation and going into next year there are alot of holes that needs to be addressed with the rotation and the re-signing of Pabelbon.
by Bradley James McEachern on Sep 12, 2011 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions
you can certainly worry about them if you like
but it isn’t worth your effort until the season is over. It’s not like they’re going to sign a blockbuster free agent in the last couple weeks of the season who will be around next year, so you’ll just keep on worrying. Nothing is going to get addressed until the offseason, so unless you’re Theo, it’s probably not worth your worrying about yet.
True
Best wait until this season is over to start worrying about the next. Still it’s something that will need to be addressed when the time is right.
by Bradley James McEachern on Sep 14, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Manny was arrested for a domestic disturbance
So since you have such an exacting code of conduct for everyone, I assume you’ll have to cross him off your list.
My list of players who I want on the team?
Used to love him, that ship has sailed regardless of today’s deal.
Yeah, this came out two weeks ago.
They said he had a tendon pull a piece of the bone off. I don’t know what that is, but its not good.
Wakefield is going to throw a complete game tomorrow night
you heard it here first.
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I'll have some of the same as you're having there Gizmo.
Absinthe with wormwood, tequila, mezcal, or maybe just plain ole gin. But make them doubles and keep ’em coming bartender.
by papoonforpresident on Sep 12, 2011 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Sweet Jesus
I hope you are right Sandy.
by The Name is Dalton on Sep 12, 2011 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Rays win 5-2
lead down to 3 games. Wake and then Lackey the next two nights.
Please, RS, score lots of runs.
Two vastly different situations
Rays: Indifferent fanbase, rabidly hungry players
Red Sox: Indifferent players, rabidly hungry fanbase
Would be nice if I they showed any outward interest at all in avoiding the Historic Choker label.
No team has ever blown a 7.5
game lead in September, according to Jason Stark. The Rays trailed by 9 – we are in epic collapse territory.
Were are talking ’78 like.
The Rays are playing like they have everything to win, and nothing to lose. The RS are playing …..I don’t know how to describe it.
Can you imagine if the uniforms were changed, how crazy Boston would be over the collection of young Rays? Yet when I left Tampa this morning the talk shows were all about the Bucs inability to stop Calvin Johnson.
In fairness
…they couldn’t stop Calvin Johnson.
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by Matthew Kory on Sep 13, 2011 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions
That's because Megatron is the man
You guys will see this year. With Stafford healthy he’s gonna make Fitzgerald and Andre look like Roy Williams.
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by TheLoneDavid on Sep 13, 2011 3:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Who is 'you guys'? I'm a Redskins fan.
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by Matthew Kory on Sep 13, 2011 3:14 AM EDT up reply actions
"You guys" is everyone who isn't a Lions fan.
I’m not talking trash, just enthused over the Lions this year.
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by TheLoneDavid on Sep 13, 2011 3:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Come on, are you serious?
You really think the Red Sox are indifferent? I’m really asking.
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by Matthew Kory on Sep 13, 2011 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions
It's just that we don't have JD around
to make everyone else look emotional by comparison.
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by TheLoneDavid on Sep 13, 2011 3:08 AM EDT up reply actions
They've been sleepwalking for weeks
And I haven’t seen anyone get mad or look like they care about the situation. Lord knows there’s no quality on the field.
I gotta say
I think that’s ridiculous. They are all clearly upset about it, from what they say, to the looks on their faces when they fuck up. That said, I don’t think getting angry because you aren’t doing well is what wins games, or else Carlos Zambrano would be the undisputed best pitcher ever.
I just don't see it.
Have you been watching the games? Have you been listening to the players post-game comments? The team has been playing hard. I don’t see how you could think differently unless you’re anger over the losses has colored your viewpoint. I understand, watching them lose game after game is infuriating. Really. But to claim they don’t care is, in my most humble of opinions, willfully ignorant and 100% incorrect.
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by Matthew Kory on Sep 13, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea
I don’t know how it’s not the starting pitching, if not the pitching in general. It’s like every time I turn around, the bullpen blows a lead. I remember that Wednesday night game where it looked like Wake would finally get win #200, then the bullpen just gives it up, by walking batters with the bases loaded. Stuff like that can’t happen, and definitely not in the playoffs.

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