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BOSTON, MA - AUGUST 27:  Alfredo Aceves #91 of the Boston Red Sox reacts after the sixth inning against the Oakland Athletics at Fenway Park August 27, 2011 in Boston, Massachusetts. (Photo by Jim Rogash/Getty Images)

I was warned when I moved from the East Coast to the West Coast that I was moving into the more volatile area of the country. The West is known for more extreme weather, and natural disasters are commonplace (or so the story goes) while the east is docile, like a sleeping puppy in a tiny snuggy, safe, secure, and not likely to implode or be eaten by a plague of locusts. I won't make any comment on the West as I've only been out here a short time and, minor complaints aside, I like being alive, but since I've moved, the East has had droughts, floods, severe heat waves, record snowfall, earthquakes, and now a hurricane. My point: there are worse things than having a crappy local economy.

Link time!

Is there more pressure in a pennant race? Maybe. Or maybe not. Does it negatively affect a players performance? This is the question Joe Posnanski of SI.com sets out to answer. He says, in order, no and no. Or, if you prefer out of order, no and no. The point being: Joe Posnanski of SI.com doesn't think there is more pressure on a player in a pennant race. What's more, I think he's right. As Mr. Posnanski says, this is one of those things that the more you think about them the more you realize the original line of thought doesn't make sense. But, as with all things written by Joe Posnanski, regardless of the conclusion the ride makes it worth while.

Star-divide

Ozzie Guillen had some choice words for Cleveland Indians fans after they welcomed Jim Thome back into their fold with open arms. Dave Brown of Yahoo's Big League Stew writes about it here. The gist is it's hypocritical to boo a player, as Indians fans did when Thome played against them, and then turn around and cheer him when he comes back to your team later on. Of that there is no doubt. But what, you may be asking, does this have to do with the Red Sox? Well, nothing directly, but there is a parallel that one doesn't have to go very far to see. Just read Mr. Brown's above linked piece and change the words "Indians", "Cleveland" and "Thome" to "Red Sox", "Boston" and "Damon." As an attendee to Johnny Damon's first game back to Boston after signing with the Yankees, I admit to booing the man. I'll also say I was excited last year when the Red Sox tried to trade for Damon and disappointed when he vetoed the deal essentially because, to paraphrase Ozzie Guillen, why would he want to go back after the way the fans treated him? It was a shame for both Red Sox fans and for Damon as it represented a lost opportunity to reconnect with a player who made a huge impact during his four years in Boston. Yes, he took more money to join the hated Yankees, and that will never be a popular action around these parts but that doesn't mean the fans should hate him forever.

There is an interesting discussion over at Fan Graphs as pertains to different kinds of stats. Some stats, as you are no doubt aware, define the past. These stats assess the value of what has happened and assign value to it. Other stats look at what has happened and attempt to show what will happen in the future. As is probably obvious, these are two different kinds of stats. Sometimes though one might misuse a stat. When that time comes, Dave Cameron is there to set us all straight. This is a good thing.

Mike Andrews at Sox Prospects has uncovered a heretofore unbeknownst proclivity. The Red Sox seem to choose lots of players from USA Baseball in the draft. This includes the most recent draft where the team's top four picks, Matt Barnes, Blake Swihart, Jackie Bradley, and Henry Owens, were all on the USA Baseball roster. Mr. Andrews helpfully includes the latest Team USA roster for us to bone up on next year's draft picks.

Finally, I'm not sure what "Nerdbone" is but it sounds rad.

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The funny thing about Damon was

I don’t think the way the fans treated him was why he vetoed it. He’s said himself that he would’ve accepted the trade except that he was SURE the Tigers would want him back. Why he thought that when they were trying to trade him is beyond me, but that’s what he said.

I fully booed Damon when he was with the Yankees, well, because they’re the Yankees. Since he’s left them, anyone that does is beyond me. Yes, even for the Rays because they just aren’t the Yankees. I do kinda wish he’d accepted that trade last year, even though I’m quite sure that wouldn’t have made the Sox a playoff team.

by wolf9309 on Aug 29, 2011 9:18 AM EDT reply actions  

and btw, in Boston itself,

the storm was pretty light. Not so in other parts of New England but, had they not rescheduled the game on sunday, I think it would’ve pretty easily been finished with maybe a minor rain delay in there somewhere.

by wolf9309 on Aug 29, 2011 9:20 AM EDT reply actions  

I didn't hate Damon forever when he changed teams because it wasn't personal. I just didn't like him for the moment

and every other moment he wore a uniform that wasn’t Boston’s. That goes for every player forever. If Damon returns to the Sox I’ll cheer him. Even if Papi changes teams I will boo him.

And it’s not just the good players. If D-Mac changes teams I will boo him then. No hard feelings personally. I simply boo other teams. Always.

by dsharp on Aug 29, 2011 10:54 AM EDT reply actions  

even if not, fundamentally dsharp has a point (accidental pun - sorry)

and Ozzie is kinda ridiculous for not ‘getting’ that essential point of fandom: We have the right to root for laundry.

I think most players totally understand that – indeed, Thome clearly understands that.

Heck a lot of players play into it – re: Brady’s “I hate the Jets” comment.

He doesn’t really ‘hate’ the players. And I, as a fan, don’t really ‘hate’ Damon – but while he’s wearing the wrong laundry, I will boo him. That doesn’t mean I don’t appreciate and respect great players on other teams – I’ll clap for an opposing player making a great diving catch or any great performance.

But I’ll also hate them for wearing the wrong damn shirt.

NBA Officiating - Corrupt? Incompetent? Which is worse? Does it matter? It sucks.

by mmmmm on Aug 29, 2011 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wasn't excited when the Sox tried to get Damon last year

I was happy he stayed in Detroit because he wouldn’t have helped the Sox. He was no better than the players he would have replaced. I’m indifferent to Johnny Damon.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Aug 29, 2011 11:29 AM EDT reply actions  

Man

Oregon has none of that. If you want an unexciting part of the country to live in, move to Oregon.

"We Believe" - Rudy Fernandez

by TheGreatMon on Aug 29, 2011 6:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Oregon is right on the Pacific Ring of Fire, dude!

Mt St Helens dumped ash on parts of northern Oregon when it blew in 1980.

There is no telling when any of the other volcanoes in the Cascades might become active again! Mt Hood last erupted as recently as 1782. It has exhibited frequent tremors since 1950 and as recently as about 10 years ago.

You can’t hide from Mother Nature – no matter where in the eventually she will find you and show you what a bitch she can be!

LOL (someone who only knows all this because he lived through the St. Helens mess)

NBA Officiating - Corrupt? Incompetent? Which is worse? Does it matter? It sucks.

by mmmmm on Aug 29, 2011 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

The difference is

Both a major volcanic eruption that does major damage, AND the subduction zone off the coast…are threats we always get to show Oregon is not boring in elementary school. Mt St Helens is WAY more active than Mt Hood.

The difference is hurricanes hit the east coast, and even new england, way, way, WAY more often than there are any major natural disasters in Oregon. It’s just things that will eventually happen, with a small chance to ever actually happen in any given lifetime.

"We Believe" - Rudy Fernandez

by TheGreatMon on Aug 29, 2011 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

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