Game 122: Death by Baseball, Part III
by lone1c on Aug 17, 2011 1:35 PM EDT
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It feels like we've done this before. Same day, different polka.
For the third time in just over twenty-four hours, the Red Sox take on the Rays. This time, they meet up for the rubber match. We've already seen a pitching duel yesterday when Jon Lester overcame a rough start and Jacoby Ellsbury sent a James Shields curveball over the bullpen to give the Sox a victory, and a disappointing night game when the Sox offense just couldn't solve Jeff Niemann. (I do have to admit that the Jed Lowrie-Dustin Pedroia-Adrian Gonzalez triple play and the home runs by Jacoby Ellsbury and Jason Varitek were sweet highlights in otherwise frustrating night.)
What will we see today? Well, first the Sox offense will have to do battle against lefty David Price, who is one of the best young lefties in the game (I hate having to type that!).
The Sox's mound-climber today will be none other than John Lackey, who has somehow managed to notch six straight victories with a sub-4.00 ERA during that span (I can't believe I'm able to type that without saying "yeah, right" or "Just kidding!" afterwards!):
(Side note to SBN: Could you have found a picture where Lackey doesn't have his chewing gum showing? It's rather glaringly obvious on my cinema display. Yuck.)
Okay, back to the game preview. So we know that David Ortiz will be day-to-day because of bursitis in his heel (Ouch!). Unfortunately, today is not one of those good days. So that means another juggling of the lineup. This time it's Gonzo who gets to be the DH, with Youk shifting over to first and Lowrie getting another start at third:
Why Crawford is in left instead of McDonald, with Reddick manning RF, is beyond me. Aargh.
On the plus side, after this afternoon's game, the Sox head on the road to start a four-game series in Kansas City. The downside is, that nobody will be left to comment on that road trip, as we'll all be dead after having overdosed on Sox baseball. (Has there been this much Sox baseball in so short a span since the ALCS in 2004?)
Go Sox!
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After 4 months I am officially off the Carl Crawford bandwagon.
It is just impossible to defend him now.
That being said, Go Sox! And go offense. They have been awful of late. Get it going!
being off the bandwagon is fine
but still, we must reserve hope for the future, because we have nothing else.
Oh I agree.
I am definitely rooting for him. But I am not a defender anymore.
Best thing is,
Carl will probably get a single important hit in October, and tons of people will jump back on his bandwagon.
Me included haha.
I said yesterday that if he tears it up in October I can forgive the bad regular season.
Drew's supposed awful 2007
had a .373 OBP, so we’re really approaching worst contract in history level with CC.
McDonald is so terrible.
Very late break, can’t even make the play when it comes bouncing weakly towards him. Pathetic.
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I assume we are still in the market for an outfielder?
Or will we just DFA McDonald when Drew gets back?
I think we're sort of PTSD about it.
We just can’t bring ourselves to make a change. Shell-shocked.
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by Ben Buchanan on Aug 17, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Well this could have started better.
GIDP please!
i have a feeling that the bullpen will get a good workout today.
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Aug 17, 2011 1:44 PM EDT reply actions
Yup
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by Ben Buchanan on Aug 17, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Afternoon All!
Go Sox!
Happy John Lackey on the Mound Day!
"Baseball is almost the only orderly thing in a very unorderly world. If you get three strikes, even the best lawyer in the world can't get you off."
~Bill Veeck~
Ugly inning
But Lackey should be out of it rather cleaner.
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Can Delonte West REALLY not find some other way to make money?
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He's headed to the Home Depot. Honestly
And what HD will hire him as a salesperson? It’d be disruptive I’d figure.
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by Ben Buchanan on Aug 17, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I wonder if there is anything to Tito's comments about Gonzo's neck.
Says that a neck strain might be killing his power.
And not the whole "swinging at pitches outside the zone" thing?
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by Ben Buchanan on Aug 17, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey I never said I agreed with it.
Just wonder how much it is bothering him.
Feeling like he has to justify his contract on every pitch?
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Not that I'm aware of.
But I mean it in the sense of internal pressure, rather than media pressure.
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understood
but, Gonzo, if so, stop it. You are loved, and we have a better scapegoat for monetary angst.
I wish we could just bottle current-day Ellsbury and Pedroia
having such production in CF and 2b is just too valuable.
Don't give away Theo's R&D plans!
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does the local radio still black out online streaming for the games?
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Aug 17, 2011 1:55 PM EDT reply actions
DFA Youk
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Aug 17, 2011 1:59 PM EDT reply actions
Or is that going too far?
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Only if you're not joking.
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by Ben Buchanan on Aug 17, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not not joking any less than the "DFA Youk" crowd.
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DFA lone1c
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by Ben Buchanan on Aug 17, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn't know there was a glut of medieval satirists on the blogger free agent market.
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Add one
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by Ben Buchanan on Aug 17, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Btw
Can we actually get to the bullpen this game? Ridiculous.
What do you mean?
Tomorrow’s an off day, and Monday was an offday, so it should be almost all hands on deck in the bullpen.
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@Royals tomorrow.
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by Ben Buchanan on Aug 17, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Oops. Right. Forgot the schedule.
Guess that explains why it’s a day game.
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I think he means TB bullpen.
Two straight CGs for their pitchers
lol
I mean THEIR bullpen. You do realize we allowed two CGs yesterday, right? : |
Yeah, but one of them was a loss.
And besides, if Maddon goes to his bullpen, he more or less uses everybody to get the two innings he needs anyways.
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I think he's not helped by having to move around so much.
When he can stay at one spot for a while, his defense tends to pick up a bit.
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war: david price having to throw 55 pitches in the second inning.
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Aug 17, 2011 2:08 PM EDT reply actions
Jackie Bradley Jr. might be in uniform tonight per, uh, him.
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McDonald is a joke.
Id rather have Sean O out there in right field.
Want to see someone really get their brain twisted up? Try explaining the Monty Hall problem to them....
by BigBenSportsGuy on Aug 17, 2011 2:15 PM EDT reply actions
It can't help
but it is his lack of patience at the plate that is killing him the most.
But the only time he's gotten on base in the last few days is by getting walked
Baseball is the only field of endeavor where a man can succeed three times out of ten and be considered a good performer. ~Ted Williams
How does Crawford look?
I can’t get to a TV yet
"Baseball is almost the only orderly thing in a very unorderly world. If you get three strikes, even the best lawyer in the world can't get you off."
~Bill Veeck~
sadly hopeful
that each day will be THE day he turns it all around
"Baseball is almost the only orderly thing in a very unorderly world. If you get three strikes, even the best lawyer in the world can't get you off."
~Bill Veeck~
what's wrong with the lineup widget?
Let's trade Reddick for Heyward!
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Um
Ortiz will be out for a few games, Scoot has a sore back, and we’re against a LHP so we see DMac
"Remember, it's not over until the fat lady drops one."
No, I mean in this way:
Data for this widget is not currently available
Let's trade Reddick for Heyward!
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by QW on Aug 17, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
amazing
the Lester/Pedroia thing actually managed to disappoint, even with it being horrendously dumb.
What we paid for him
might not be worth an argument.
Let's trade Reddick for Heyward!
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by QW on Aug 17, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Why isn't anyone at this gamethread?
Let's trade Reddick for Heyward!
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Yes, business hours
excellent point.
Let's trade Reddick for Heyward!
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by QW on Aug 17, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Sooo....moving on from this David Price situation...
Any pitchers in KC that could get this offense jumpstarted?
I'll put it this way:
I haven’t seen a KC starter owned in any of my 4 fantasy leagues since Zack Greinke last year.
Let's trade Reddick for Heyward!
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by QW on Aug 17, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow.
that’s , ummmm, that’s just wow.
I think that’s taking debt collection a little too far, especially for $5,700.
Let's trade Reddick for Heyward!
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by QW on Aug 17, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
my goodness
"Baseball is almost the only orderly thing in a very unorderly world. If you get three strikes, even the best lawyer in the world can't get you off."
~Bill Veeck~
somebody's gotta step up
"Baseball is almost the only orderly thing in a very unorderly world. If you get three strikes, even the best lawyer in the world can't get you off."
~Bill Veeck~
Ellsbury got lucky...
If Darnell had done that I feel like he’d be given eternal grief.
Huh?
Ellsbury is a far superior baserunner to Ells, and ran on the first pitch to give one of our best singles hitters an RBI opportunity.
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by Ben Buchanan on Aug 17, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
So, should Ortiz be DL'd?
In particular, for those “it doesn’t matter if we win the division” crowd….
wouldn’t it make more sense to get Ortiz healthy, bring up Lavarnway now, bring Papi back on Sept 1 w/out having to send anyone down.
Otherwise, for another 5 games or so, basically playing with 1 fewer players.
Yeah
It could take a while to get him situated on the roster.
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by Ben Buchanan on Aug 17, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
good point
might be better to leave him alone until at least next season.
Let's trade Reddick for Heyward!
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by QW on Aug 17, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
No need to call him up.
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by Ben Buchanan on Aug 17, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Geez
This team is starting to piss me off again
Jeez, Lackey...
A changeup in the middle of the plate?! : (
This offense needs to wake the eff up.
We need a 6-run inning.
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Wow, this is getting bad.
Let's trade Reddick for Heyward!
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Does Lucic have a 'Portugal The Man' t-shirt on?
Baseball is the only field of endeavor where a man can succeed three times out of ten and be considered a good performer. ~Ted Williams
Portugal Futbol
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by Ben Buchanan on Aug 17, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the rays should re-arrange their lineup.
Joyce behind Upton? Noooooooooo
Just curious as to your thoughts on this:
Jennings
Kotchman
Zobrist
Longoria
Joyce
BJ
Damon
Shoppach
Brignac
Let's trade Reddick for Heyward!
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Is Jennings really a leadoff guy?
I think I would leadoff with Zobrist.
Howdy, all!
I hate August.
"What's so special about Lou Gehrig? Shouldn't EVERY Yankee have a disease named after him?"
Let me clarify:
I hate the way the Rd Sox play in August.
"What's so special about Lou Gehrig? Shouldn't EVERY Yankee have a disease named after him?"
by Tessie's Dad on Aug 17, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Also,
I hate the way I type year-round.
"What's so special about Lou Gehrig? Shouldn't EVERY Yankee have a disease named after him?"
by Tessie's Dad on Aug 17, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Do you remember 1978?
I do.
"What's so special about Lou Gehrig? Shouldn't EVERY Yankee have a disease named after him?"
by Tessie's Dad on Aug 17, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
So no, then.
August is a miserable, miserable month. (Your anniversary and Tessie’s birthday notwithstanding.)
"What's so special about Lou Gehrig? Shouldn't EVERY Yankee have a disease named after him?"
by Tessie's Dad on Aug 17, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
The exception that proves the rule.
"What's so special about Lou Gehrig? Shouldn't EVERY Yankee have a disease named after him?"
by Tessie's Dad on Aug 17, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
It is
It just doesn’t mean what people think it does.
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by Ben Buchanan on Aug 17, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh?
"What's so special about Lou Gehrig? Shouldn't EVERY Yankee have a disease named after him?"
by Tessie's Dad on Aug 17, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
The expression as it's taken is non-sensical. A rule is not broken; by definition there is no exception.
It stems, I believe, from ancient Roman law, where a specifically stated exception thereby established the rule. “A soldier may have leave on Tuesdays” means, then, that there is a rule that a soldier may not have leave on Wednesday-Monday.
It’s one of Cicero’s things.
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by Ben Buchanan on Aug 17, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
It's an idiomatic expression,
which I have always taken to mean that it’s fair to characterize a trend as a rule, but the use of the phrase indicates that the speaker knows it’s not ironclad.
But thanks for the background.
"What's so special about Lou Gehrig? Shouldn't EVERY Yankee have a disease named after him?"
by Tessie's Dad on Aug 17, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
It's idiomatic, yes.
But in the same way that “Could care less” is.
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by Ben Buchanan on Aug 17, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Not quite,
because “could care less” is a grammatically inane take on the idiomatic “could not care less.” Anyway, I take your point.
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by Tessie's Dad on Aug 17, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
how is it a rule of it is may and not shall
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~Bill Veeck~
Because I said so.
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by Ben Buchanan on Aug 17, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
The Ben Rule.
"What's so special about Lou Gehrig? Shouldn't EVERY Yankee have a disease named after him?"
by Tessie's Dad on Aug 17, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
And no exceptions.
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by Ben Buchanan on Aug 17, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
You never heard that expression?
Anyway, in August 2004, I was in a minivan with my in-laws, driving to Alaska.
"What's so special about Lou Gehrig? Shouldn't EVERY Yankee have a disease named after him?"
by Tessie's Dad on Aug 17, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I think I was -17 that year
Let's trade Reddick for Heyward!
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by QW on Aug 17, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Christ,
I’m old.
"What's so special about Lou Gehrig? Shouldn't EVERY Yankee have a disease named after him?"
by Tessie's Dad on Aug 17, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I like August
though I think June/July are my favorites.
Let's trade Reddick for Heyward!
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by QW on Aug 17, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Gotta have January in the mix, too
Let's trade Reddick for Heyward!
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by QW on Aug 17, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
In Boston, yes, but in Florida, not so much.
Theo-trade John Lackey for a used condom and a punch in the nose. Remember, it's all about value.
Yes they should
but with no rain. Snow is great. Rain, slush, refreeze, 6" of solid ice after a changeover, that stuff REALLY SUCKS.
Let's trade Reddick for Heyward!
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by QW on Aug 17, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
We forgot how to score runs.
Extended team wide slumps really suck.
How would people feel about bringing Bedard back for '12?
I’m thinking it might be a good idea. Between Tazawa, Doubront, and Weiland we won’t be lacking for high-level depth, after all.
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Constructive
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by Ben Buchanan on Aug 17, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
This means I'm ambivalent
But, Bedard seems to have done well so far, until a body part falls off. Helps having that depth.
Concerned if he wants $12m.
Agreed on the $12m
But I can’t see anyone giving him that.
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by Ben Buchanan on Aug 17, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
12 Mil? I'd say 3 mil with incentives that could make it 5 or 6 mil a year.
Theo-trade John Lackey for a used condom and a punch in the nose. Remember, it's all about value.
I would be more worried about years than dollars.
he can produce to a $12M level next year. He probably can’t produce for 3 years, nor should the Sox want him for 3 years with a number of guys pushing for spots.
I want to see how he holds up down the stretch before making a commitment.
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I still want Harden
even if he’s a complete bust, it didn’t seem like the asking price was that bad. I figure we’d get something between him and Bedard
Wouldn't look nearly so bad if he had an ounce of support from this world-beating offense.
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by Ben Buchanan on Aug 17, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
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by Ben Buchanan on Aug 17, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Not counting the one in the first inning?
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Not an earned run.
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by Ben Buchanan on Aug 17, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
True, but it's not as if unearned runs count less in the final score.
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Even 6 innings and 3 runs isn't horrible
IF he reaches that….
True, but it's not as if John Lackey can do anything more about it.
He DOES have a K an inning. That’s about all you can do to dodge the errors.
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by Ben Buchanan on Aug 17, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Fair enough.
It’s why it’s ER not R in the QS.
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No, but it's not craptacular, either.
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Lackey gets slaughtered from pitches 1-25 and 76-100
badly. Otherwise, he’s just sorta meh.
Also god I hate Carl Crawford.
Hey!
Crawford didn’t strike out! Progress!
"What's so special about Lou Gehrig? Shouldn't EVERY Yankee have a disease named after him?"
A new approach for Crawford:
If he swings at every pitch, he’ll be at the plate for a maximum of 3 pitches, and then he can go back to the clubhouse and count his money.
Theo-trade John Lackey for a used condom and a punch in the nose. Remember, it's all about value.
It's called the Kevin Cash rules
He is incapable of getting a hit, so any AB where he sees 4 pitches is a victory.
RIght.
Half of me likes when pitchers throw offspeed pitches in the dirt to Crawford because it looks so funny when he swings at them. Once I get over my “what are you swinging at?!?” rage, I can laugh it off. Whereas when he gets overpowered by a 91 mph fastball, it’s just sad.
Theo-trade John Lackey for a used condom and a punch in the nose. Remember, it's all about value.
Cash Rules for Crawford.
Egad.
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by Tessie's Dad on Aug 17, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Quick thought- would anyone trade Crawford for Alfonso Soriano straight up? I would
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3 Less years, Alfonso is a dead pull hitter who hits for pop.
I could see him hitting 25 HRs a year. Plus, as much as his D sucks, it would be masked by Fenway’s LF.
Theo-trade John Lackey for a used condom and a punch in the nose. Remember, it's all about value.
As I said for Bedard, if Lackey can give us 5-7 IP and 2-4 ER, I'm happy with that.
I know his salary depicts that he should do better, but at this point, we just need the back end guys to keep us in games.
Theo-trade John Lackey for a used condom and a punch in the nose. Remember, it's all about value.
With the offense in its current state...
and Price on the mound, Beckett/Lester would probably be on the wrong end in this one.
If Lackey can do anything here, it’s innings. A 7 pitch inning would be nice.
Right, but everyone, myself included, seems to always cirticize the guy and hate his contract.
But come October, I’d be happy with an outing like this.
Theo-trade John Lackey for a used condom and a punch in the nose. Remember, it's all about value.
This team should just start a fight.
Something to get going.
How about Bogar punch the third-base ump?
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How about Bogar punches Longoria?
That would make my day right there.
Theo-trade John Lackey for a used condom and a punch in the nose. Remember, it's all about value.
I was saying Tito should've laid into one of the umps in Seattle.
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by Ben Buchanan on Aug 17, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but at least nobody will miss Bogar.
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I won't miss Tito...
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by Ben Buchanan on Aug 17, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Dodododododododododododo DO—DO-DO—DO DO
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by Ben Buchanan on Aug 17, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Mary- I desperately want to make love to a schoolboy
Theo-trade John Lackey for a used condom and a punch in the nose. Remember, it's all about value.
and suspensions
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by Tessie's Dad on Aug 17, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
what the heck is going on?
where is the offense?
"Baseball is almost the only orderly thing in a very unorderly world. If you get three strikes, even the best lawyer in the world can't get you off."
~Bill Veeck~
July
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by Ben Buchanan on Aug 17, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
This teamm goes on funny streaks and slumps wRISP
Theo-trade John Lackey for a used condom and a punch in the nose. Remember, it's all about value.
Didn't we see them last on Friday?
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No
That was just this new offense having a weirdly good day. It’s like how Seattle can score 10 once in a blue moon.
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by Ben Buchanan on Aug 17, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
+1.
I couldn’t have been more wrong earlier in the year when I wanted to trade Ells for Marlon Byrd and Geovany Soto.
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I was dead wrong.
I thought he was a swing-alot, no pop hitter whose shitty reads were masked by diving catches. I still believe the last part, but he could literally be a 30/30 guy.
Theo-trade John Lackey for a used condom and a punch in the nose. Remember, it's all about value.
Two chances left. . . .
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Oy.
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by Tessie's Dad on Aug 17, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Welp
Look at that perfectly executed run down, too.
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Not our game today.
Theo-trade John Lackey for a used condom and a punch in the nose. Remember, it's all about value.
Not our three-week period.
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by Ben Buchanan on Aug 17, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
DItto
Fuck this team.
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by Ben Buchanan on Aug 17, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Ease up, its the return of the wRISP epic slump.
This team will shake it
Theo-trade John Lackey for a used condom and a punch in the nose. Remember, it's all about value.
Huh?
We don’t even get RISP anymore.
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by Ben Buchanan on Aug 17, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
We just did.
And I think that the timely hitting really comes and goes with this team
Theo-trade John Lackey for a used condom and a punch in the nose. Remember, it's all about value.
Bad offense tends to do that.
Theo-trade John Lackey for a used condom and a punch in the nose. Remember, it's all about value.
August
"What's so special about Lou Gehrig? Shouldn't EVERY Yankee have a disease named after him?"
by Tessie's Dad on Aug 17, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Leadoff triple ---> no runs.
I feel ill.
"What's so special about Lou Gehrig? Shouldn't EVERY Yankee have a disease named after him?"
I would said I was going out to at this point...
But we already did….my aunt wanted to order Domino’s so we did, and I got back just in time to see this catastrophe……
Hey, Ben:
Can my recap of this game consist of nothing but me smashing the keyboard interspersed with random mutterings about having players DFA’ed?
Or does it have to be, you know, coherent and stuff?
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Hm...
I might allow it.
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by Ben Buchanan on Aug 17, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Go for it,
although I woudn’t be opposed to a little bit of coherency every so often…
Let's trade Reddick for Heyward!
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by QW on Aug 17, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Entertaining gibberish?
Hmm. Interesting challenge. I’ll see what I can do,
Fenway: "An alternate and better universe, disguised as a ballpark." --Thomas Boswell
I am glad this team was so pissed off leaving Seattle
that they decided to come home and lay and egg (so far) in a series against a division rival.
In 24 Innings
The Sox have 9 hits and 4 runs….
And you know...
It’s not even like Lackey’s been doing all that horribly this game….now that I said that watch him give up ANOTHER HR, but if he gets through the 7th ok, he’s basically been screwed today.
And he hits a batter while I'm typing
I hate me : (
I might have to amend my request
To include random requests to DFA commenters, too.
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LOL
Rec’d
Let's trade Reddick for Heyward!
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by QW on Aug 17, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
If he lands on Crawford...
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by LesterJohn on Aug 17, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I was just about to say that. . . .
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only if it gets us out of the contract
although I’m rather dissapointed so far, I’m still not sold on him being this bad for all 7 years.
Let's trade Reddick for Heyward!
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by QW on Aug 17, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't see it getting much better, especially when he's 36 and his speed diminishes significantly
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I'm thinking more the next few seasons.
but I unfortunately have to agree with you on that. Even worse is that it’s setting a precedent for contracts for other players who are somewhat similar (See: Jose Reyes).
Let's trade Reddick for Heyward!
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by QW on Aug 17, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I do NOT want Reyes.
He’s a more injury prone Crawford, albeit at a premium position
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I heartily protest this demurestration attempt.
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Ok, just don't DFA me.
Let's trade Reddick for Heyward!
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by QW on Aug 17, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Nope. Mainly it's on the offense as of late.
Fenway: "An alternate and better universe, disguised as a ballpark." --Thomas Boswell
Well, either that, or someone needs to check Drew's locker for voodoo dolls.
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I mean..
It’s encouraging for the playoffs that our pitching is doing well now, cause if our offense finds itself just in time for that…watch out. D:
If we get Lester and Beckett doing their things, and Lackey and Bedard don't
light it up but still keep us in the game, this team is dangerous.
Theo-trade John Lackey for a used condom and a punch in the nose. Remember, it's all about value.
Maybe this is just irrational hate of Crawford, but I would honestly
trade him for Alfonso Soriano or Jason Bay straight up.
Theo-trade John Lackey for a used condom and a punch in the nose. Remember, it's all about value.
Actually, Bay's numbers and Crawford's are eerily similar this year.
Fenway: "An alternate and better universe, disguised as a ballpark." --Thomas Boswell
Yes, but we'd only be stuck with him 2 more years, and Bay's power
is being dwarfed by Citi Field. I think he’d still be good for around 20 a year.
Theo-trade John Lackey for a used condom and a punch in the nose. Remember, it's all about value.
I'd trade him for Desmond Jennings
probably could have done it in one of my fantasy league, too
Let's trade Reddick for Heyward!
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by QW on Aug 17, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm just thinking we'd have to trade an albatross contract for an albatross contract
I’d take Bay, Soriano, even Werth for Crawford.
Theo-trade John Lackey for a used condom and a punch in the nose. Remember, it's all about value.
bad as Crawford's been
we loose all of those
Let's trade Reddick for Heyward!
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by QW on Aug 17, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
How?
They are all RH and could take advantage of the monster. Bay and Soriano are under contract for significantly less time, and Werth is at least an upgrade at a slightly lower price.
Theo-trade John Lackey for a used condom and a punch in the nose. Remember, it's all about value.
Hell, I'd even consider Crawford for Vernon Wells
Theo-trade John Lackey for a used condom and a punch in the nose. Remember, it's all about value.
Werth ≠ upgrade
Let's trade Reddick for Heyward!
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by QW on Aug 17, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
No, Werth would be good for about .270/.350/.440 in Fenway with about 20 HRs
Theo-trade John Lackey for a used condom and a punch in the nose. Remember, it's all about value.
By the way, Lackey is under 6.00 ERA right now...
…if he gives up a 3rHR to Zobrist, probably not.
Lone1c must DFA you now.
Theo-trade John Lackey for a used condom and a punch in the nose. Remember, it's all about value.
Yeah, pretty much.
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6.02
"What's so special about Lou Gehrig? Shouldn't EVERY Yankee have a disease named after him?"
by Tessie's Dad on Aug 17, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe _I_ should jump off the monster... : (
Good grief. Hopefully our offense wakes the hell up for the remainder of the game.
There's a better chance that we trade Lackey and Crawford for Halladay and Domonic Brown
Theo-trade John Lackey for a used condom and a punch in the nose. Remember, it's all about value.
Ohhh
I want in on that deal!
Let's trade Reddick for Heyward!
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by QW on Aug 17, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
THEO!
Trade idea at OTM! Please investigate!
Let's trade Reddick for Heyward!
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by QW on Aug 17, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Make it happen!
Or, to exploit Reagins, trade Crawford for Mike Trout
Theo-trade John Lackey for a used condom and a punch in the nose. Remember, it's all about value.
oh man
that would be cool
Let's trade Reddick for Heyward!
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by QW on Aug 17, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm just going to start randomly typing characers
with askii code and see what I get………………because this game is getting too depressing.
Let's trade Reddick for Heyward!
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Nonetheless, 6 2/3 IP with 4ER isn't bad.
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for Lackey
It sustains his 5-6 ERA
Let's trade Reddick for Heyward!
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by QW on Aug 17, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
He just needs to keep us in the game, and he did that.
Theo-trade John Lackey for a used condom and a punch in the nose. Remember, it's all about value.
3 ER, actually.
This one’s on the (mysteriously absent) offense.
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by Tessie's Dad on Aug 17, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
For fuck's sake, are we seriously gonna get CGed 3 games in a row?!?!
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Looks like it.
Fenway: "An alternate and better universe, disguised as a ballpark." --Thomas Boswell
Or maybe not. Price already at 90 pitches.
Fenway: "An alternate and better universe, disguised as a ballpark." --Thomas Boswell
Niemann's count looked high all game, but he just kept coming out and mowing us down.
Theo-trade John Lackey for a used condom and a punch in the nose. Remember, it's all about value.
Is it possible for Tampa to catch up with us in the wildcard race?
Scary thought….
Baseball is the only field of endeavor where a man can succeed three times out of ten and be considered a good performer. ~Ted Williams
Probably not. TB isn't really that good this year.
Theo-trade John Lackey for a used condom and a punch in the nose. Remember, it's all about value.
Yes
We are not a lock for the postseason by any means
Eh, this is an overreaction.
TB has shown that it’s lineup sucks as much as we thought it would and that their pitching is unsustainably good.
Theo-trade John Lackey for a used condom and a punch in the nose. Remember, it's all about value.
9 games ahead of them...
And 8 if we lost today, we’re fine.
Charge the mound Darnell!!
Nobody cares if you get suspended anyways.
by dja9783 on Aug 17, 2011 3:50 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
At least we could get a fight out of this game
Baseball is the only field of endeavor where a man can succeed three times out of ten and be considered a good performer. ~Ted Williams
Rec'd I was about to say that.
Theo-trade John Lackey for a used condom and a punch in the nose. Remember, it's all about value.
haaaaaaaaaa, rec'd
"Baseball is almost the only orderly thing in a very unorderly world. If you get three strikes, even the best lawyer in the world can't get you off."
~Bill Veeck~
Clutch Carl c'mon!
Baseball is the only field of endeavor where a man can succeed three times out of ten and be considered a good performer. ~Ted Williams
a walk would have made me happy
"Baseball is almost the only orderly thing in a very unorderly world. If you get three strikes, even the best lawyer in the world can't get you off."
~Bill Veeck~
I want to see Iglesias come up and see who gets more walks and XBHs. My money would be on Iglesias
Theo-trade John Lackey for a used condom and a punch in the nose. Remember, it's all about value.
He really ought to consider changing his name to Krawford.
Fenway: "An alternate and better universe, disguised as a ballpark." --Thomas Boswell
Krawfraud.
Theo-trade John Lackey for a used condom and a punch in the nose. Remember, it's all about value.
He really ought to consider changing his career to Circus Clown
(He’s got the initials for it, at least.)
"What's so special about Lou Gehrig? Shouldn't EVERY Yankee have a disease named after him?"
by Tessie's Dad on Aug 17, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Six pitches to Crawford?
Yes, that is shocking.
"What's so special about Lou Gehrig? Shouldn't EVERY Yankee have a disease named after him?"
by Tessie's Dad on Aug 17, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd
Theo-trade John Lackey for a used condom and a punch in the nose. Remember, it's all about value.
Yes! 6 pitches! attaboy Crawford!!!
Theo-trade John Lackey for a used condom and a punch in the nose. Remember, it's all about value.
New trade idea: Crawford and DiceK to Japan for Yu Darvish
Theo-trade John Lackey for a used condom and a punch in the nose. Remember, it's all about value.
New trade idea: Crawford for another bat.
But not maple. Pine. The maple stuff breaks too easily.
Fenway: "An alternate and better universe, disguised as a ballpark." --Thomas Boswell
Why not aluminum?
Even if we can’t use it in a game, it’s still an improvement.
"What's so special about Lou Gehrig? Shouldn't EVERY Yankee have a disease named after him?"
by Tessie's Dad on Aug 17, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Crawford for a year's supply of Gatorade. Get it done
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However, that's that type of series that the Royals could heartily outplay us.
Theo-trade John Lackey for a used condom and a punch in the nose. Remember, it's all about value.
Sweet! Good luck!
Theo-trade John Lackey for a used condom and a punch in the nose. Remember, it's all about value.
AHAHA! Miller Time! start on Friday.
Theo-trade John Lackey for a used condom and a punch in the nose. Remember, it's all about value.
So did Erik Bedard. Ah shit, 15 day DL
Theo-trade John Lackey for a used condom and a punch in the nose. Remember, it's all about value.
by LesterJohn on Aug 17, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Lol
Watch him do well and suffer the same run support that many of our pitchers have had this week.
It would be nice to see him do well
Especially with a Bedard injury being a fait accompli
Theo-trade John Lackey for a used condom and a punch in the nose. Remember, it's all about value.
Yea...
Ump? That was strike 3. Do NOT take your talents, or lack of, to Kansas City with us.
◄►
Just some special characters for you. The game is too boring, so there’s some entertainment.
Let's trade Reddick for Heyward!
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Here's a few more.
㈀⌦
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Hmm. SBN didn't apparently like all of them. . . .
Let’s see about these: ř ő ł
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♫☼►↓↨§↑↔◄↕♠♥☻☺
Thhis game: ↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓
Let's trade Reddick for Heyward!
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by QW on Aug 17, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I'd use a different set of symbols to describe this one. . . .
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haha
Let's trade Reddick for Heyward!
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by QW on Aug 17, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Aceves is a baller
All is well…for the top of this inning, anyways…
How did we get Aviles again?
Baseball is the only field of endeavor where a man can succeed three times out of ten and be considered a good performer. ~Ted Williams
At the trade deadline no?
Baseball is the only field of endeavor where a man can succeed three times out of ten and be considered a good performer. ~Ted Williams
Yep, we gave up a package that was way to big (Yamaico Navarro, Kendal Volz
Theo-trade John Lackey for a used condom and a punch in the nose. Remember, it's all about value.
He was left on Theo's doorstep
swaddled in a wicker basket .
"What's so special about Lou Gehrig? Shouldn't EVERY Yankee have a disease named after him?"
by Tessie's Dad on Aug 17, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Holy shit! What's that on 1st? Is it a baserunner? No...
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WINDOUGHSPORTS shall trouble us no more.
Why, yes, yes I can. :-)
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by lone1c on Aug 17, 2011 4:17 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Gracias .
"What's so special about Lou Gehrig? Shouldn't EVERY Yankee have a disease named after him?"
by Tessie's Dad on Aug 17, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
reply
will it work? or fail for the 4th consecutive time?
Let's trade Reddick for Heyward!
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by QW on Aug 17, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
yay
Let's trade Reddick for Heyward!
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by QW on Aug 17, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Rec'd
Let's trade Reddick for Heyward!
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by QW on Aug 17, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
too bad , I was going to try to win some loot
"Baseball is almost the only orderly thing in a very unorderly world. If you get three strikes, even the best lawyer in the world can't get you off."
~Bill Veeck~
wtf is wrong with Agon, is he injured or something?
Baseball is the only field of endeavor where a man can succeed three times out of ten and be considered a good performer. ~Ted Williams
He's suffering from hackitis
Plus a stiff neck, apparently.
Fenway: "An alternate and better universe, disguised as a ballpark." --Thomas Boswell
The HR Derby hangover
has lasted way too long.
"What's so special about Lou Gehrig? Shouldn't EVERY Yankee have a disease named after him?"
by Tessie's Dad on Aug 17, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I am starting to think there is something to it.
Papi is only finally starting to come around, Bautista hasn’t done much since, Cano wasn’t good for a while after that and now Gonzo is still not hitting for power.
Who watches the HR Derby anyways?
Baseball is the only field of endeavor where a man can succeed three times out of ten and be considered a good performer. ~Ted Williams
Not me.
It’s interminable. And Chris Berman is awful.
"What's so special about Lou Gehrig? Shouldn't EVERY Yankee have a disease named after him?"
by Tessie's Dad on Aug 17, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
It's really overblown. I tend to think the same about the AS Game.
They hype it up like it’s some big show but it’s really not
Theo-trade John Lackey for a used condom and a punch in the nose. Remember, it's all about value.
What the hell Crawford!
Theo-trade John Lackey for a used condom and a punch in the nose. Remember, it's all about value.
[venomous anti-Crawford comment redacted]
I’m trying to be charitable, but, wow, it’s hard.
"What's so special about Lou Gehrig? Shouldn't EVERY Yankee have a disease named after him?"
by Tessie's Dad on Aug 17, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Now all we need is an August 17th miracle.
Fenway: "An alternate and better universe, disguised as a ballpark." --Thomas Boswell
The Indonesian Independence Day Miracle?
Catchy.
"What's so special about Lou Gehrig? Shouldn't EVERY Yankee have a disease named after him?"
by Tessie's Dad on Aug 17, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
per WEEI:
Red Sox held to three hits or fewer in three straight games for the first time since September 1974.
Yikes.
"What's so special about Lou Gehrig? Shouldn't EVERY Yankee have a disease named after him?"
At least they managed to win one.
Fenway: "An alternate and better universe, disguised as a ballpark." --Thomas Boswell
So much for that miracle, huh.
This should be an entertaining recap.
Fenway: "An alternate and better universe, disguised as a ballpark." --Thomas Boswell
Dammit
Would be nice to face the Angels again so the Sox can sweep them.
"Remember, it's not over until the fat lady drops one."
Go Royals!
(Tonight only)
"What's so special about Lou Gehrig? Shouldn't EVERY Yankee have a disease named after him?"
We are an Ellsbury HR away from an embarrassing sweep.
Time to start playing baseball again guys!!!
That just about sums it up
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