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Who Should The Red Sox Acquire Via Trade?

What is the Red Sox's biggest need at the trade deadline? A starting pitcher? A lefty reliever? Another outfielder? Something else entirely? The floor is yours.

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Justin Masterson

Lets get our boy back…won’t happen, but I like it

by Isaiah85 on Jul 7, 2011 3:33 PM EDT reply actions  

I hope they don't waste prospects on a "piece" (e.g. a RF who only hits lefties).

I’d rather see them get a RF. Period. In other words, JD Drew’s replacement for next year. That is, if they don’t think Reddick/Kalish is the guy. Apparently they don’t because Reddick is no more valued than D-Mac right now the way he’s being used. When Crawford returns, one is likely going back to AAA or get DFA’d.

I don’t want to throw away prospects for a half-year rental. That’s how you end up with the next Jeremy Hermida.

by dsharp on Jul 7, 2011 3:39 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't really understand the problem with the Hermida deal

he was intended as a low risk situation where they traded 2 nothings for his unlikely potential. He wasn’t supposed to really be a particular role player, just a 4th outfielder who there was a vague hope would figure something out. They didn’t really give up anything of value or particularly expect anything of value.

If they make a trade it’ll be for someone who’s going to be a free agent but has some sort of proven skills that will help this ball club and won’t cost any top prospects. They wouldn’t be giving up Ranaudo or Kalish for a righty bat.

by wolf9309 on Jul 7, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wily Mo, Hermida, Miller....all seeking that David Ortiz path.

It’s no big deal if it doesn’t work out. Take a flyer once in a while.

by cds7c on Jul 7, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Arroyo

Would not be quite so well thought of had he remained in the American League, specifically the AL East. Picturing him pitching to the lefty-heavy lineup in New York in that new stadium of theirs makes me cringe.

by Marc Normandin on Jul 7, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

A deal.

I’m comfortable with JDD/Reddick/DMac/Kalish at RF.

I’m comfortable with Morales/Doubront/Hottovy as LOOGY

I’m comfortable with Miller/Wake/Aceves/Weiland/Doubront as the 4/5 starters

I’m comfortable with SalTek.

It would be great to add a RHB, a LOOGY or a 4th/5th starter, but I wouldn’t give anything up valuable. That said, Lars must be moved this year, so you may as well get what you can.

I would wait for a deal, if it’s there (like Salty was last year?), then take it. I would think about next year, where a SS, RF’er or 5th starter will be necessary.

by cds7c on Jul 7, 2011 3:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Agreed

I agree with all this (except for DMac). It’s a weak trade market this year, and I’m pretty skeptical there’s anyone worth acquiring that would be an improvement over what they already have.

If they don’t start getting healthy, there’s not much they could do to make a strong run anyway. And if they do get healthy, they don’t need to make any trades.

by BigNachos on Jul 7, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Health should determine everything

if they can’t keep the rotation or the infield on the field, there isn’t alot of sense adding bit players

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by Mattsullivan on Jul 7, 2011 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Carlos Beltran

He is a switch hitter, he’s playing great right now. The mets will likely be looking to dump his salary as soon as they are out of contention so his price should be reasonable. He replaces Drew who could be dealt and eliminates the need to ever play D-Mac while not costing Reddick valuable at-bats. He is among the best baserunners ever, has great power and can still play decent right and even provide some security in center. He seems the perfect fit to me, but the market might get pricey on him if other contenders develop needs in the outfield.

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by Mattsullivan on Jul 7, 2011 4:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Except

Apparently the Sox can’t take on gigantic payroll. I take that to mean Beltran/K-Rod etc are off-limits unless they throw in a lot of prospects. As for trading Drew, not going to happen. If Boston doesn’t want him to play him at their only offensive hole, why would somebody else want him at his price? Plus, he’s a good defensive backup that Darnell is not.

If they go get a bat, I would want Cuddyer or Baker or somebody with some pop at the SS position which pretty much doesn’t exist. I would like a Jason Marquis though if he’s really cheap.

by magicbosox on Jul 7, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I still haven't heard anyone source that claim of no financial flexibility.

Gammons included. He just says it and lets it sit there.

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by Ben Buchanan on Jul 7, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

in fact
"We never address payroll matters, but the track record of the ownership group speaks for itself, whether it’s during the offseason phase when we’re building the club or during July when we’re tweaking it," Epstein said. "Collectively, we find a way to do what it takes to put a winning club on the field."

Which seems to trend the other way. Still, given the commitment the owners made in the offseason, I’d be surprised to see them add $6 million to this year’s payroll (Beltran’s salary from July 31 on)

by wolf9309 on Jul 7, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I certainly wouldn't rule Beltran out because of cost

the flexibility needed is pretty small. I think the demand might get too high for our liking though

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by Mattsullivan on Jul 7, 2011 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I doubt the demand is going to be anything besides paying most of his salary

we’re talking an outfielder who is very good, but not worth near what he’s being paid, who can’t be offered arbitration after the season. If they decide to let him go it will be because they’ve accepted that they won’t be contending and want to save some money.

by wolf9309 on Jul 7, 2011 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Arbitration

The Mets agreed not to offer him arbitration, thus I assume that would be extended to any team that trades for him. If so, that makes him even less appealing to a team that might want a 2 month rental and 2 picks next year. He’ll be due more than $6M at the deadline. I never want to speculate what the market is as I may over or understimate his value but if the front office is willing to take on payroll I would gladly take on his remaining salary, assuming it doesn’t involve a top 20 prospect going back to the Mets.

by mg050369 on Jul 8, 2011 7:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cuddyer yes, Baker no.

Cuddyer can hit righties somewhat, too. Baker is strictly a platoon guy for those rarer ABs vs. LHPs.

Pence gets a yes. Beltran gets a yes, but has health issues and is very costly sp he’s not the best choice here.

by dsharp on Jul 7, 2011 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Baker and platooning - is that a bad thing?

You’ve got CC, Ellsbury, Reddick and Drew. I understand the desire to have a Beltran who can be an everyday player but is it such a terrible thing to acquire a guy that can mash against lefties?

by mg050369 on Jul 7, 2011 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I feel like we had two guys that could mash against lefties to start the season: DMac and Cam.

How did that work out?

I understand the splits out there (hey… Reddick is a LHH, so he cannot hit LHP… that HR last night be damned), but I’m beginning to get very frustrated when we ignore the more obvious: a guy hitting .400 against RHPs might be better than a guy hitting .113 on the season against LHPs – small sample size and all.

Honestly, I don’t see a reason to make a big splash at the deadline (Buchholz, Lester, Crawford and Lowrie all currently on the the DL and we’re still in first place in the AL East), but if a starting pitcher that has a long track record of durability and productive innings were to float on the market, you can never have too much pitching. A good LHP for the bullpen (maybe even more than just a LOOGY), why not?

However, I’m pretty happy with our everyday players, and the depth we’ve got there:
C Salty/Tek (actually working out pretty well after all)
1B AGone (with Youk backing him up, if necessary)
2B Pedey (with Scutaro/Navarro/Sutton all possible back ups)
SS Lowrie/Scutaro (with Navarro/Iglesias as possible back ups)
3B Youk (with Lowrie/Navarro/Sutton as possible back ups)
LF Crawford (with Reddick/DMac as back ups)
CF Ellsbury (with Reddick and Kalish – how long is he out – possible back ups)
RF Reddick (with Drew/DMac as back ups)

So… to me, we’re in good shape… another SP or a LHP for the bullpen. Sure, if the price is right.

by AlohaSox on Jul 8, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Minor level trades for RH Bench Guy eho is versatile

and maybe starting depth if the injuries are worse than they say…..otherwise – hold pat

by BobZupcic on Jul 7, 2011 4:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Like our pen

Call me crazy but with what’s in our pen now and in Pawtucket I think we are all right. And this means keeping Aceves there. I think we should get a back end starter that is proven. This is in case Buchh is worse than we know or in case Miller falters (oh yeah, in case Lackey keeps being Lackey). I am not sure who that would be but that seems to be a need. Also a SS would be nice as it seems that Jed isn’t back anytime soon, Iglesias isn’t near as MLB ready as once thought, and Scoot’s shoulder could fall off at any time. I like Navarro but don’t think he’s the answer at SS (more of a super sub).

"It's baseball...when you rake that's what happens" -Dustin Pedroia

by Fenway302 on Jul 7, 2011 4:32 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

An OF that hits lefties and can play corner OF to

platoon for Crawford and Reddick/Drew.

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by BoldandBrash on Jul 7, 2011 4:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Bruce Chen and jeff Francoeur

Would be the two players I’d go after. Although I would really love beltran

by Slap Baseball on Jul 7, 2011 6:07 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Francoeur is not a major league level player

no way the Sox go after him. He is has no idea of the strike zone and has been baseball’s easiest out for basically his entire career. How he remains a starter for anyone is beyond me.

- Matt Sullivan
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by Mattsullivan on Jul 7, 2011 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mean he's streaky

12 homeruns and a .265 batting average sound better than drew’s numbers. And .333 against lefties ain’t bad for the easiest out in baseball.

by Slap Baseball on Jul 7, 2011 7:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

.310 OBP

even Drew has a .337.

by Sean O on Jul 7, 2011 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll trade for Frenchy

If they dump in the Charles afterward.

by Marc Normandin on Jul 7, 2011 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right Field

My first choice would be Beltran, taking over full time in RF with Reddick and JD getting the occassional start against righties and McDonald traded or DFA’d. If the Mets required a significant prospect back, I would target a more modest selection, either Jeff Baker or Conner Jackson to play against lefties with Reddick getting more starts over JD against righties.

After a slow start, Salty and Tek have been a servicable catching tandem. I trust that Scutaro or Lowrie can contribute down the stretch and I don’t see a better alternative unless they go all in for Reyes. CC should solidify LF in 2 weeks. Buc and Lester will be back while I like interntal options (Doubront, Weiland, Millwood) as much as likely retread trade options. Last, I think they sit tight with the pen with the possible exception of lefty reliever for which I would stick with Morales for a little longer and look to Doubront if he can’t get it done.

by mg050369 on Jul 7, 2011 6:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Move Papelbon to free up some $$, if possible

Get Cuddyer and Brett Myers

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by gizmosandy on Jul 7, 2011 6:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Who's replacing Papelbon?

The guy might not be lights out, but who’s better than him in the bullpen?

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by BoldandBrash on Jul 7, 2011 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

though even if that's true

if we take Papelbon out of the equation, we go from a team with a very effective 8-9 inning duo to having a good closer and no great setup man

by wolf9309 on Jul 8, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like

Hiroki Kuroda. He is a solid starter.
I think REDSOX don’t need to give up thier top15 prospects.

by Taro yamada on Jul 8, 2011 4:48 AM EDT reply actions  

Kuroda

Despite only 6 wins, he has a 3.06 ERA so the Dodgers may disagree with your compensation.

by mg050369 on Jul 8, 2011 7:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kuroda might as well

as he’s said he won’t waive his no trade clause unless he gets some additional compensation for it.

by wolf9309 on Jul 8, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Actually i think it would take a decent prospect to get him.

Maybe not top 1-3 prospect, but I could easily see them asking for guys in our top 15. There have been a lot of teams supposedly showing interest in him, including the Reds, Rockies, Tigers, Diamondbacks, etc. And all of those teams will need starting pitching and they all know it. There will be a number of competitors for his services to have to outbid.

Usually you would think that trades within the division are rare and that would rule out Zona/Colorado but in this case I would say it is the other way around. LAD will need a few years to rebuild most likely, and Kuroda is 36. So by the time they turn it around he won’t be a competitor, and they can take a prospect away from a division rival.

And of course, as wolf says below, he wants additional compensation which with his $2.7 million at the deadline, plus probably at least a few million more to waive his no trade clause.

by The Name is Dalton on Jul 8, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

At this point with our SP injury concerns

I would say that is my biggest concern. But it’s a concern for most teams in contention right now so who knows how many guys will be “cheap” to get. Three of our opening day rotation members (and 2 of our top 3) are hurt right now, and to be honest I would be surprised if Lackey makes it the rest of the season without another DL stint. I know he has mentioned off the cuff that he knows there is some damage in his elbow he has dealt with for a while. If you had told me in the offseason that Beckett would be the healthiest of all of our pitchers mid-season, I would’ve laughed.

Wake is Wake. It seems like he’ll have 2 rough outings, then 2 good ones, etc etc but he is mid-40s and probably fighting off back soreness. Aceves has been far more effective as a reliever in my opinion, Miller is still a question mark (as a mid-rotation starter at least), I expect nothing out of Millwood at his velocity levels, and Doubront has apparently been a little iffy this year. I like the idea of Weiland coming up but it would be his first MLB stint I believe. At some point you have to look around and see if you can get something in terms of starting pitching in case Wake goes down, Lackey doesn’t get better, and (God forbid) Lester and Buch don’t come back quick enough.

Pedey and Youk seem to be heating up, Tek and Salty are better offensively than expected and I think Crawford will be the May/Early June Crawford when he comes back, and not the April Crawford. Ells, Gonz and Papi are solid. Given all that, I can live with less than optimal offense out of RF from Drew/Reddick if it is a choice between a decent RH Bat and a decent starting pitcher. But to each his own.

by The Name is Dalton on Jul 8, 2011 12:56 PM EDT reply actions  

TLDR version

- We (for the most part) can score alot of runs
- Our SP options (besides Beckett) are either:
A. Hurt (Lester/Buch)
B. Young question marks (Miller, Weiland, Doubront)
C. Streaky (Wake/Aceves)
D. Awful (Lackey)

by The Name is Dalton on Jul 8, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good analysis.

I agree with you that Pedey and Youk seem to be getting hot (hard to imagine that Ellsbury has almost as many HRs this season as Youk), and considering their slow start to the season, you have to wonder what our offense will look like when they start contributing their typical production…

by AlohaSox on Jul 8, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

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