Who Should The Red Sox Acquire: Rich Harden
There has been discussion of the Red Sox interest in Erik Bedard, and possible Mariner interest in a Red Sox prospect, but he is not the lone name linked to Boston to help in the starting rotation. Rich Harden of the Oakland Athletics, another injury-riddled hurler, has also been mentioned as a possible target.
In his last 256-1/3 innings pitched, Harden has struck out 9.4 batters per nine and posted a K/BB ratio of 2.0, just a bit under the league average (2.0 in 2009 and 2.2 the last two seasons). He has been essentially average in that stretch, with an ERA+ of 95 that has come in two hitter-friendly parks. He started last night against the Rays in Oakland for his fifth appearance of the year, and struck out seven batters while walking just two in six innings pitched.
There are four things you can say about Rich Harden that have been true about him for years now:
- He will strike people out. In his career, he has punched out over a batter per inning, and has continued to miss bats even when he can't find the strike zone consistently.
- Leading us into #2: Harden is going to walk batters. Lots of them. The thing is, he is also notoriously difficult to hit, with a career H/9 of 7.4, and BABIP of .278, noticeably lower than the league average, especially in a sample of 869 innings.
- He may not give up many hits, but when he does, they travel far. Harden has allowed a homer per nine in his career despite throwing exactly one-third of his career starts in pitcher-friendly Oakland. In his last three seasons, he has allowed 1.6 homers per nine.
- Harden gets injured, and often. Since 2003, he has 21 entries in Baseball Prospectus's injury database, including 10 stints on the disabled list (four of them 60-day DL trips).
Because of this, though, Harden may end up less expensive than Bedard in terms of prospect costs, since Bedard has also been linked to the Yankees. That isn't to suggest Boston should cheap out and go with Harden. He just presents less of a risk when you combine the cost with his injury history, since Bedard doesn't come out looking much better in recent years in those regards, and could come with a higher price tag via trade.
There are negatives, as you see above: he will walk the opposition, and he will give up homers, and there is a very real chance he will become just one more Boston starter that visits the disabled list. But, in addition to the high risks, he is also a high-reward pitcher that can miss major league bats -- something Kyle Weiland and Andrew Miller have not been able to do much of -- and has the kind of upside, as long as he is on the mound, to to be the fourth starter Boston may need if their season extends into October.
He is basically average at this stage of his career, no longer the dominating force he was back during his first stint with the Athletics. But he could help the Red Sox more than the collection of reserve starters -- including the ones who are seeing front line action -- and at a cost that could satisfy all involved.
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You have done a very good job of convincing me
that this is not a good idea.
Galactus does as he pleases. Because Galactus is drunk.
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Oh, believe me
It’s definitely a “price is right and hey he’s not Andrew Miller” scenario, not an “Oh yay Rich Harden yay!” one.
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by Marc Normandin on Jul 29, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, if we are this close to a World Series
and brother, we are close, then I’d rather spend a little more and get someone who can actually help us than get “not Andrew Miller”.
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that is a good point
this is not just another Red Sox team. This is a very special looking Red Sox team that looks like they have a historically good offense and the only thing that can hold us back is pitching. If we pay a bit extra for a guy that legitimately can help shore that up, I’m all for it. I’d like to think with these guys locked up that our offense will look as devastating the next few years, but I only know for a fact that it looks this good now.
I would put Rich Harden in a series titled
“Who Are The Most Mediocre Players The Red Sox Could Acquire”
Not that it means it’s necessarily a bad idea, what with the injuries, if everyone is going to cost too much in prospects. The Sox are destroying the ball enough that an extra mediocre starter would at least get a bad starter out of the rotation and improve our chances to win, if he was actually healthy.
If they go for one of these injury-riddled guys, Bedard offers a much higher ceiling and his most recent injury seems less worrisome to me than Harden’s. Still, I won’t complain if they get Harden, just be underwhelmed.
Well, let's do an experiment here
What if, because the Yankees and maybe another team are asking for Bedard, the Mariners demand Felix Doubront in addition to someone like Che-Hsuan Lin?
I would rather Bedard as well, believe me, but there are very few players worth scouting in Pawtucket right now, which is where the Mariners seem to be focusing. I wonder who it is they would want, because that may end up being a sticking point given they don’t have very many near-ready players at that level.
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by Marc Normandin on Jul 29, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Fair enough
but I would rather do Doubront/Lin for Bedard than go after Harden. If the choices were Harden or standing pat, I would stand pat.
I'm a 7 WAR player in bed.
by TheLoneDavid on Jul 29, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
When you say 4th starter, are you envisioning Buch or Lackey as the 3?
To me, that’s a big difference. I am now assuming Buch won’t be the #3 this year. I also don’t think Lackey has proven to be an effective #3 fo this year. Thus, Harden doesn’t help. He isn’t a #3 for the playoffs, but he is Bette than Wake or Miller at #5.
I’m fine with Harden if they are giving him away. But I would like to see him with a #3 starter like Garza, Ubaldo, Fister, Bedard, Latos, Kuroda, or Guthrie. Any of those guys I would slot in ahead of Lackey, until Lackey turns the corner. Admittedly guys like Fister, Latos and Guthrie are only marginally better than Lackey.
4th starter
Is definitely in the “Oh no, we’ve lost Buchholz” vein. I guess it also works in the “Crap, Lackey stinks again” vein, but it’s more in the insurance area than in the replacing Lackey one.
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by Marc Normandin on Jul 29, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Latos probably isn't available.
I know I started that, but it’s so much wishful thinking on my part.
I'm a 7 WAR player in bed.
by TheLoneDavid on Jul 29, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Why would Latos be available?
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by Marc Normandin on Jul 29, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Because we really, really want him?
I'm a 7 WAR player in bed.
by TheLoneDavid on Jul 29, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, Garza is apparently not available and I seriously doubt...
…Baltimore is in the trade-with-Boston business. But it’s a list of #3s to prove a point, really.
Everyone, let the record show.
Beef stew went on the range at 11:21 am CST. I’m not sure if this will affect the Lions or the Red Sox though, I’m following both teams currently.
I'm a 7 WAR player in bed.
Like a lot of people I would rather get Bedard over Harden.
But I also agree with Marc in saying that Harden is not Andrew Miller and that is an upgrade right there.
The main hope here, no matter who we get, is that Buchholz is fine and will just have to deal with some back pain while pitching. Although it is sounding more and more like there is a chance (small right now) that Buchholz might not be back at all this year.

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