John Lackey Thought Exercise
Listen. I know you guys and gals don't like John Lackey. Pass through the comments of any article that is about him -- and hey, even the ones that aren't -- and you're sure to find a lot more angry or mean things written about him than positive ones. It's understandable, in many ways, as his ERA just fell under seven in last night's start, and he is owed very large buckets full of money both this year and in the the future.
That's the thing, though. Boston is stuck with John Lackey. He isn't going anywhere. His contract and his elbow issues will make sure of that, at least for a couple more seasons. With that in mind, everyone just relax, because we can't keep up this torrid pace of anti-Lackey enthusiasm through the length of his contract without losing our minds. I still don't think I've recovered fully from the Julio Lugo years, and I don't want to go through that again.
Do we have any legitimate reason to just take it easy with regards to Lackey, outside of preserving our sanity? He was absolutely awful before his disabled list stint, tossing 39-1/3 innings over seven starts, posting a Run Average of 8.01 and a K/BB ratio of 1.1 thanks to 19 strikeouts against 18 walks. He disappeared from mid-May until June 5, when he returned to throw a "just good enough" start against the A's, wherein he walked and struck out a pair of batters, but held the anemic Oakland offense to three runs over 5-2/3 frames.
With one exception since -- and we'll get to that -- Lackey has been very good since returning from the DL stint for his elbow. His strikeouts are way up, his walks are way down, and while he has given up a few homers, his command looks like it is supposed to -- like it did during the second half of 2010 -- rather than the awful state it was in to start this year.
Those five starts are marred by one performance, as stated, and it's last week's start against the Padres, when Lackey lasted just 3-1/3 innings while allowing four runs and giving up four walks, including a hit by pitch with the bases loaded. Supposedly, the inclement weather played a part in his loss of control. Though he wasn't very specific about anything in the brief post-game conference, it seemed that he couldn't grip the ball well after he came back out from the rain delay.
Let's give him the benefit of the doubt, if only for the purposes of this article, given his three starts before the rain-filled disaster and the start that came last night. Let's strike that start from the record, and just go with the other four he has had since returning. He has struck out 6.6 per nine in that stretch against 1.2 walks per nine, while allowing 0.7 homers per nine. That control won't last, but those are solid numbers. While we continue to attack Lackey and approach each start like it's the single worst event of our lifetimes, he has actually been pretty good since getting a shot in his elbow and spending time on the DL. Not great, mind you, but pretty good.
Of course, the issue is that we don't know how long it will last. His elbow must have felt fine last night, when he went 7-2/3 innings against the Phillies, allowing just two runs while striking out five and giving up one walk, but if/when the effects of the shot and the rest he got from going on the DL wear off, will he pitch like he did in April again? Will he need Tommy John surgery, as has been the buzz in the media the last 24 hours?
The answers to those questions are "probably" and "I'm not a doctor." The Red Sox are monitoring his elbow, making sure he stays healthy, and that's about all they can do at this point. Because they realize -- like we need to -- that Lackey is here to stay. Longer than we would like? That was the case the day he was signed. But it's reality, and he can't be shoved aside in the rotation unless he is hurt. We may as well make the best of it, and stop torturing ourselves about it. Lackey does enough of that for us, anyways.
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In all honesty
Its not that I don’t like Lackey. I think I am more mad at Theo for signing the likes of Lackey and Lugo for way more than they were worth.
Most Red Sox fans (including me) can’t really get mad at him because he makes so many other good decisions. Even though on both of these players signing days most Red Sox fans were thinking what was Theo thinking?
We can’t get mad at Theo so we have to take our frustrations out on Lackey and Lugo instead.
This, with Crawford added to the list.
The front office seems to really understand when it’s best to let their own players leave (Bay, Pedro, Damon to some extent), but totally fails in evaluating other team’s older talent. Or they took that chapter in Moneyball too literally about how you get the best value from the top free agents available. Or something. It just doesn’t make sense to me how they can simultaneously be conservative with their money with some players and then throw a ton at players who obviously don’t deserve it.
Lester vs Hamels
This will be the first time this season that the Red Sox are an underdog in Vegas in a Jon Lester start. Going into tonight’s game there are four major league pitchers who’s team has been favored in every single on of their starts. Without looking can you name them?
vr, Xei
That's 5 :-)
pretty sure Sabathia may not have been favored in at least one start against Beckett.
Totally agree Marc.
I never liked Lackey, but I don’t root against players on “my” team, I just want the Sox to win. I agree that aside from a start where the conditions were horrible, he has looked good enough to be useful since his return. As bad as he was last year, especially in the first half, he finished the year with a 3.85 FIP last year. After his awful start he has a 4.84 xFIP (trending down). I hope he continues to give innings, with the occasional excellent start and keeps us in games. I do worry about his elbow, however. Was it just me or did he look last night after several pitches that he was either in pain or holding his arm in a funny way?
I do not root against Lackey. I just don’t expect him to pitch well.
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I would never root against the Sox or anyone on the team
I will, however, get mad as hell and scream and kick and curse when they perform poorly. So while I’ll always cheer for him and hope he does well (while in a Sox uniform), Lackey will be the object of my anger when he pitches like crap.
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by Fenway302 on Jun 30, 2011 12:38 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I like John Lackey. He seems to be as likeable guy in the clubhouse as there is
and I relate to him a family guy. I can’t imagine what its like to go through a wife/breast cancer scenario while pitching for the Red Sox.
With Jon Lester, Pedroia and Gonzo, Lackey is right up there with my favorites.
One good thing you can say about Lackey
is that he has been a workhorse. So long as he is healthy, he is going to give you 200 innings. When he is on, like last night, he pitches efficiently enough to go 7 or 8 innings. One luxury of being the Red Sox is that you can pay a guy top dollar to be a mid-rotation innings eater because your MVP 2B, MVP-caliber 3B, CF, C and two of the top starters are all on very team- friendly contracts. I don’t get upset about Lackey so much as I wonder why the guy can regain his old form. i don’t really see him looking that much worse than the guy who used to dominate in LAofA, but he cannot consistently get the same results.
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Interesting quote from Beckett about Lackey
“I root for John Lackey more than I root for myself,” said Red Sox starter Josh Beckett after his team’s loss. “I think he still has the same stuff. We haven’t seen the best of John Lackey,” Beckett said. “It’s definitely not a deal where we’re thinking, ‘His stuff just isn’t’ as good.’ There are just a lot of other things. To me, he’s my [expletive] hero. What he’s doing is the most amazing thing ever.”
I have to say I was surprised at the people who used that Pirate game
as the breaking point with Lackey. He had been quite effective since coming off the DL, and his bad start was a cold, raining night where he had to shut it down and amp it up on, what, three different occassions?
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John Lackey
I am not really a big fan of Lackey , his pitching runs hot and cold. And after seeing Bobby Jenks come in today and pitch not a fan of him either
Lot of people say Julio Lugo, how about Edger Renteria" I can’t play on real grass" Then there was Brad Penny,
If you want to go back further how about Mike Torres!
I think Penny would have been okay with a good defense behind him
But the 2009 Sox defense was one of the worst in the majors. Lugo I liked until he got hurt and never played, and Renteria was just never a good idea.
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by Marc Normandin on Jun 30, 2011 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I have no problem with Brad Penny.
He was signed as a #5 starter and was put in a #3 role due to injuries.
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Lackey was the best option out there the year the Sox signed him…
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Nonsense.
If you could logically look at the contract and deduce that he wouldn’t be worth it, then it is a bad idea. As such, not a good option. The idea that he was the “best” pitcher out there so we got him in horse hockey. If it’s a bad allotment of funds, then it is a bad idea. Plain and simple.
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