Boston's Best Tools: Best Hitter
At this point, the Best Tools Series has looked at specific hitting skills, covering power, contact, and plate discipline. Each one of these skills has value in itself, but a combination of all three is the mark of an elite hitter. The 2010 Red Sox finished second in the American League in runs scored; this season they add Carl Crawford and Adrian Gonzalez to that offense. There is no doubt
Our starting point will be Weighted On-Base Average. This is the ideal hitting statistic because it gives ever aspect of offense proper value. It is OPS perfected to include the value of stolen bases, GIDP and other such minor events.
The top six hitters by wOBA: (after the jump)
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Name |
PA |
BB% |
K% |
|
BABIP |
OBP |
wOBA |
wRC+ |
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Kevin Youkilis |
1644 |
12.00% |
21.60% |
0.252 |
0.342 |
0.404 |
0.411 |
150 |
|
Adrian Gonzalez |
2074 |
13.80% |
20.80% |
0.238 |
0.304 |
0.387 |
0.383 |
143 |
|
1541 |
14.30% |
22.70% |
0.225 |
0.301 |
0.379 |
0.377 |
128 |
|
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Dustin Pedroia |
1791 |
9.00% |
8.50% |
0.168 |
0.31 |
0.372 |
0.372 |
124 |
|
David Ortiz |
1724 |
13.10% |
23.90% |
0.241 |
0.281 |
0.356 |
0.363 |
119 |
|
Carl Crawford |
1817 |
7.00% |
15.90% |
0.156 |
0.33 |
0.349 |
0.358 |
121 |
If it has not become clear in the three proceeding series, it should be clear now; Kevin Youkilis is the best hitter on the Red Sox. In fact over the past three seasons, by wOBA Youk is second only to Albert Pujols. By Runs Created Plus he is third, trailing only Pujols and 2010 NL MVP Joey Votto. That is better than Miguel Cabrera and Alex Rodriquez. That is better than AL MVP Josh Hamilton, Yankees’ stars Mark Teixeira, Robinson Cano, and Derek Jeter… I’m sorry, I’ll stop now. It is hard to imagine another player at anytime in history being the second best hitter in baseball over a three period and getting less attention for it. Red Sox fans know he is great, of course, but I am not sure they know he is THAT great. While he will be thirty-two to start the season, Youk doesn’t look like he is slowing down at all. Before a thumb injury ended his 2010, he was playing near MVP level and all signs point to his full recovery from that setback.
The only player that really has a solid case against Youk is newly acquired slugger Adrian Gonzalez. While wOBA is pretty sophisticated, it does not consider park factors at all. RC+ does include a park adjustment and Youk still holds the lead there. However, park factors are far from perfect predictors and there is no move more extreme than from Petco to Fenway. Gonzalez has managed to put up a reasonably close
J.D. Drew and Dustin Pedroia are very close by both wOBA and RC+. They provide value at the plate in very different ways, but that value is almost equal. Since Pedroia is younger and still very much in his prime, I would expect him to be the third best hitter on the team in 2011 and beyond. He has incredible contact skills and plate discipline. He is not in the same power class as Youk and A-Gon, but the Laser Show is more than a mere slap hitter. Drew, on the other hand is declining and he will need to maintain his power to keep pace with Pedey. His mastery of the strike zone is incredible, but he rakes up the K’s as well.
If the team’s health prevails, the 2011 Boston Red Sox lineup will dominant the league. With the addition of Gonzalez, the Sox will have the six of the top twenty five hitters in the American League over the past three years. They will hit for power. They will hit for average. They will draw walks. They will steal bases. They will make pitchers work hard and hit the showers early. If you are looking reasons to doubt the 2011 Red Sox, don’t look at the line up. This is a team that will scored runs.
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by nuthinboutnuthin on Feb 1, 2011 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
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As much as I love Youk, I'm voting for Gonzo
But if the questions is who is the best hitter on any given day, I vote for Pedroia on any day he decides he needs to carry the team. The day before he broke his foot, he was so good he could have hit two homers on a single pitch.
He's been an MVP candidate the past three years.
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by BoldandBrash on Feb 1, 2011 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
I agree about the general perception.
Sporting News gave some bullshit list of the top 50 or so players last year. IIRC, they put Fielder ahead of him and a bunch of other undeserving players.
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by BoldandBrash on Feb 1, 2011 3:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I say it has to be Youk until Gonzalez proves otherwise.
There’s all these factors that say Gonzalez will be amazing in Fenway, and he probably will be. But, until he actually does that, let’s stay with Youk.
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by Drugs Delaney on Feb 1, 2011 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
+3
That’s pretty much it. Gonzalez also has to prove it against American League pitching.
What I expect to happen is for A-Gon to have better power numbers but Youk will still edge him in overall hitting.
But its probably going to be so close – I would not be surprised for that to be flipped!
Whatever, they should prove to be a helluva one-two punch!
Now that I think about it...
I remember seeing that Kevin Cash got a hit, but I can’t for the life of me remember seeing him hit it. It’s far more plausible that Youk got it.
Youkilis
What I like best is that he seems to be able to adapt to the situation. He’s not just a power hitter, he doesn’t just walk, he is able to do what needs to be done to score runs.
Youk at 32 will still be the Youk we know.
But I see Gonzalez the Beast having a monstrous season this year.
by OzTiger on Feb 1, 2011 2:44 PM EST via mobile reply actions
#20
Youk is definitely the best on the team until someone proves otherwise. A Gon and Pedey would probably be the best hitters on many othet teams. Would be nice if some of the “experts” would recognize Youk for how great he is!
by Fenway302 on Feb 1, 2011 4:12 PM EST via mobile reply actions
wOBA doesn't adjust for park factors
Gonzalez is about as good as Youkilis and perhaps better when considering that.
According to BP’s True Average (which does adjust for ballpark), Youkilis’ last three years are .314 (2008), .319 (2009), .332 (2010); Adrian Gonzalez’s last three years are .307 (2008), .338 (2009), .324 (2010).
Their weighted average (weighting recent seasons more in a 3-2-1 ration), give Gonzalez a one-point edge, .326 to .325.
It’s pick your poison, but the numbers are much closer than wOBA makes it appear.
by UltimateCranston on Feb 1, 2011 4:25 PM EST reply actions
Man, I forgot how epic of a year Youk was having before he went down...
The whole season before the injury parade seems like a blur.
I love Lester, Pedroia, and Gonzo!!! ITS MAN LOVE!
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by Frederick0220 on Feb 2, 2011 5:23 PM EST up reply actions
I voted for Gonzalez
even if Youk has been a little better over the last 3 years by all the stats that I dont completly understand.
Gonzalez has been very close in a bad ball park. And nobody has mentioned that Gonzalez has been in a terrible line up and Youk’s been in one of the best line ups
I said Youk
but I expect him and Gonzalez to be neck in neck and both absolutely filthy. Youk gets the edge because his stance makes me giggle.
Who ever bats ahead of the other...
will be the best hitter on the team. I know there is lots of debate over the everyday lineup so I’m not even going to start where people should bat but if Youkilis bats in front of Gonzalez he will have the better numbers. If Gonzalez bats in front of Youk than Gonzalez will have the better numbers. Career numbers for whoever bats in front of the other.
I agree with this...
… but if Big Papi is having another year like 2010, the presence of both of these guys in the line up should be career years for both of them, regardless of which one is protecting the other.
As the debate has raged over batting order, let’s say, for instance that you’ve got Gonzalez at 4, Youkilis at 5 and Big Papi at 6. Gonzalez may end up with the better numbers this season, but I suspect Youkilis’ numbers will be pretty impressive with Big Papi protecthing him.
Protecting and Feeding
each other. We’ve all seen how great hitters feed off each other, like the bash bros., maris/mantle, papi/manny, etc.
This will happen with Youk/Gonzo but the protecting and feeding of this lineup goes far beyond them. I can’t wait to see the synergy created by this Merciless Row, which extends from PD through CC, Gonzo, Youk, Papi, JD/Cam and maybe Jedi.
And the offensive balance of this deep lineup with proven potential for OBP, HR/doubles/triples, base speed/SB, and the ability to grind pitchers, is a thing of rare beauty; the stuff of legends. Homer? I think we’ll all be homers the next few seasons. Can’t be helped.
Bostons ....Best hitter
JD Drew….what…..you cant be serious…how does he make the list at all…your stats are insipid at best..
Back to MLB.com with you ignorant fiend!
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Nice
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on Feb 2, 2011 5:53 PM EST up reply actions
Insipid
–adjective
1.
without distinctive, interesting, or stimulating qualities; vapid: an insipid personality.
2.
without sufficient taste to be pleasing, as food or drink; bland: a rather insipid soup.
-—
I wouldn’t know, I’ve never tasted those stats. Which stats are flavored more to your liking?

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