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BZ's Pick 5: Update on the Update

Here is an update on the action as of today: 12/29/2011

Elsewhere: Bedard (PIT), Bell (FL), Beltran (STL), Breslow (ARZ), Broxton (KC), Buerhle (FL), Cahill (ARZ), Capuano (LAD), Capps (MIN), Darvish (TEX), Gonzalez (WAS), Harang (LAD), Nathan (TEX), Ramirez (MIL), Rodriguez (MIL), Sherrill (SEA), Willingham (MIN), Willis (PHI), Wilson (LAA)

In the Fold: Ortiz, Shoppach, Bailey

Contenders already out of the running: BobZupcic, Dave D, LesterJohn, Revived0103

Current Leader(s): aubatron2011

BZs Pick 5

Call Sign

Pick 1

Pick 2

Pick 3

Pick 4

Pick 5

BobZupcic

Bell, H.

Beltran, C.

Cahill, T.

Capuano, C.

Ortiz, D.

TheLoneDavid

Bedard, E.

Bell, H.

Cespedes, Y.

Danks, J.

Ortiz, D.

royredd87

Broxton, J.

Cespedes, Y.

Darvish, Y.

Ortiz, D.

Wakefield, T.

Rogue Nine

Bedard, E.

Cespedes, Y.

Harang, A.

Ortiz, D.

Qualls, C.

bosoxman94

Bell, H.

Cespedes, Y.

Ortiz, D.

Varitek, J.

Wakefield, T.

Marisa Ingemi

Buerhle, M.

Nathan, J.

Ortiz, D.

Shoppach, K.

Wakefield, T.

KtownGreek

Headley, C.

Jackson, E.

Maholm, P.

Nathan, J.

Ortiz, D.

Redsoxmike

Beltran, C.

Gonzalez, G.

Headley, C.

Jackson, E.

Ross, C.

Thunder64

Bell, H.

Cespedes, Y.

Jackson, E.

Ortiz, D.

Wakefield, T.

gizmosandy

Buerhle, M.

Capps, M.

Kazmir, S.

Madson, R.

Ortiz, D.

Dave D

Bell, H.

Beltran, C.

Cahill, T.

Jackson, E.

Ramirez, A.

nuthinboutnuthin

Bedard, E.

Bell, H.

Cespedes, Y.

Ortiz, D.

Saunders, J.

wolf9309

Broxton, J.

Capps, M.

Jackson, E.

Ortiz, D.

Ross, C.

Jake_W

Bedard, E.

Bell, H.

Beltran, C.

McCarthy, B.

Ortiz, D.

justinbunko

Bell, H.

Jurrjens, J.

Ortiz, D.

Young, C.

Zumaya, J.

LesterJohn

Bedard, E.

Bell, H.

Breslow, C.

Gonzalez, G.

Ortiz, D.

outofleftfield

Bedard, E.

Madson, R.

Ortiz, D.

Oswalt, R.

Wilson, C.

South Coast Ghost

Choo, S.

Gonzalez, M.

Maholm, P.

Oswalt, R.

Willingham, J.

Sologlub

Bedard, E.

Madson, R.

Maholm, P.

Ortiz, D.

Varitek, J.

AlohaSox

Bedard, E.

Broxton, J.

Ortiz, D.

Oswalt, R.

Wheeler, D.

Brandon C.

Bedard, E.

Garcia, F.

Madson, R.

Ortiz, D.

Shoppach, K.

B_Edelman

Bedard, E.

Madson, R.

Ortiz, D.

Varitek, J.

Wakefield, T.



aubatron2011

Bailey, A.

Cespedes, Y.

Danks, J.

Ortiz, D.

Oswalt, R.

The Name is Dalton

Capps, M.

Garland, J.

Ludwick, R.

McCarthy, B.

Ortiz, D.

Rick Bentsen

Bedard, E.

Ortiz, D.

Oswalt, R.

Varitek, J.

Wakefield, T.

Conor Duffy

Capps, M.

Danks, J.

Ortiz, D.

Varitek, J.

Wakefield, T.

ThoughtsAndSox

Capps, M.

Ordonez, M.

Ortiz, D.

Wakefield, T.

Willis, D.

CoachDee3

Beltran, C.

Jackson, E.

Ortiz, D.

Oswalt, R.

Varitek, J.

Revived0103

Broxton, J.

Buerhle, M.

Oswalt, R.

Rodriguez, F.

Willingham, J.

n0va

Bedard, E.

Lannan, J.

Ortiz, D.

Sherrill, G.

Varitek, J.

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mmm…John Danks is crossed out for the Lone David but not for Conor Duffy.

by Hallelujah2004 on Dec 25, 2011 9:55 AM EST reply actions  

curses foiled again!

"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry, you know anything that travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?" - Crash Davis

by Dave D on Dec 26, 2011 7:34 PM EST reply actions  

I'm really beginning to think my Roy Oswalt prediction is looking good...

I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.

Wait ’til next year!

by AlohaSox on Dec 27, 2011 11:45 AM EST reply actions  

I have a suspicion we go into the year with Bard and Aceves in the rotation.

You build on failure. You use it as a stepping stone. Close the door on the past. You don't try to forget the mistakes, but you don't dwell on it. You don't let it have any of your energy, or any of your time, or any of your space.
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by TheLoneDavid on Dec 27, 2011 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I really don't think so.

Actually, the rumor of Aceves for closer is one I don’t mind, to be honest. I think he’s got the make up, the hard fastball, and the nasty attitude you want from a closer. I still think I’d rather have Bard, but either of them would probably be fine.

So… point of clarification. Is Cahill in Oakland, like it says up at the top of the page? Why do I feel like I saw a Cahill in Arizona’s rotation, and think there was a trade between those two teams? Or am I just breathing too much smoke off the hot stove?

I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.

Wait ’til next year!

by AlohaSox on Dec 28, 2011 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

He was traded from Oakland to Arizona

Probably just a typo.

Joe, the reason we shout "WE ARE" and the reason the answer will always be "PENN STATE"

by Rogue Nine on Dec 28, 2011 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks... no knock on you there.

I was honestly confused. Started thinking there were two Cahills… the offseason is starting to blur as the months go on, and we still haven’t signed any starting pitching…

I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.

Wait ’til next year!

by AlohaSox on Dec 29, 2011 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Looks like I’m wrong on Madson. Bailey was sadly my next choice if I didn’t go with Madson.

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by Brandon C. on Dec 28, 2011 6:36 PM EST reply actions  

I'm a little confused on this point.

Doesn’t aubatron have 2 correct, and Brandon C./Marisa have 2 correct? So it is now a three way tie, right?

Or did I miss the Roy Oswalt signing?

I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.

Wait ’til next year!

by AlohaSox on Dec 29, 2011 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Poor Marisa.

You build on failure. You use it as a stepping stone. Close the door on the past. You don't try to forget the mistakes, but you don't dwell on it. You don't let it have any of your energy, or any of your time, or any of your space.
-Johnny Cash

by TheLoneDavid on Dec 29, 2011 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

The tiebreaker

I’m assuming here that Bailey’s contract will be greater than Shoppach’s

by BobZupcic on Dec 29, 2011 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Ah! Now I see...

I did not remember that there was a tie breaker, let alone what it was… so what you’re saying is, when Roy Oswalt signs… damn, aubatron has him too… so I need an Oswalt and a Wheeler signing to win?

I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.

Wait ’til next year!

by AlohaSox on Dec 30, 2011 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn't worry

Once Jon Garland and Ryan Ludwick sign for cheap $$ and Cherington employs a Jedi to trick Beane into believing McCarthy was part of the Bailey trade…I will have gotten 4 out of 5.

That will give us our two back of the rotation starters, a RH RF bat to platoon with Sweeney, Bard and Aceves return to the bullpen to make our bullpen incredible on paper, and we can all sit back and wait for Spring Training.

Plus, I win. So, really…It’s an ideal situation for everyone involved.

by The Name is Dalton on Dec 30, 2011 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Ludwick has reverse splits

Better against righties than lefties.

You build on failure. You use it as a stepping stone. Close the door on the past. You don't try to forget the mistakes, but you don't dwell on it. You don't let it have any of your energy, or any of your time, or any of your space.
-Johnny Cash

by TheLoneDavid on Dec 30, 2011 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

What a jerk Ludwick is.

Someone punch him and tell him it’s from me.

by The Name is Dalton on Dec 30, 2011 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

So I get screwed

even though I’ve been just as right as him?

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by Marisa Ingemi on Dec 30, 2011 10:44 PM EST up reply actions  

As they say

“them’s the rules”….which were clearly stated in the original post

by BobZupcic on Dec 31, 2011 9:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Screwed, even. :P

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by Bloggy on Jan 1, 2012 10:04 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't know where else to put this,

but Heyman is reporting the Sox are not in on Jurrjens anymore, which should make people happy.

by aubatron2011 on Dec 29, 2011 11:29 AM EST reply actions  

Not really

if acquiring a bullpen piece is preventing us from acquiring starters it should be making us more angry.

You build on failure. You use it as a stepping stone. Close the door on the past. You don't try to forget the mistakes, but you don't dwell on it. You don't let it have any of your energy, or any of your time, or any of your space.
-Johnny Cash

by TheLoneDavid on Dec 29, 2011 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

It's one starter they're out on.

Heyman’s also reporting they’re in on Kuroda, Oswalt, Jackson, Garza and probably others we don’t know about. He’s not saying they’re out on every starter, just because they picked up Bailey.

by aubatron2011 on Dec 29, 2011 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I doubt we have the pieces to get Garza anymore

not unless Theo wants to raid our lower minors.

You build on failure. You use it as a stepping stone. Close the door on the past. You don't try to forget the mistakes, but you don't dwell on it. You don't let it have any of your energy, or any of your time, or any of your space.
-Johnny Cash

by TheLoneDavid on Dec 29, 2011 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I do too,

but that doesn’t mean they won’t get a SP. Heyman, Rosenthal, and Neyer have all said the Red Sox will get a SP, just don’t know who yet.

by aubatron2011 on Dec 29, 2011 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

well if a reporter said it it must be true!

/jadedPennStater

Joe, the reason we shout "WE ARE" and the reason the answer will always be "PENN STATE"

by Rogue Nine on Dec 29, 2011 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't believe that any of the pieces we've traded away

would’ve been instrumental in a Garza trade. I don’t think Theo much cares for Reddick and Head and Alcantra weren’t exactly top value.

by wolf9309 on Dec 29, 2011 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Who do the Cubs have at first base?

Couldn’t we package Youk to them? I mean, we know Theo loves him and probably knows as well as anyone else that moving Youk to first would be best for his career…

I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.

Wait ’til next year!

by AlohaSox on Dec 29, 2011 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey, I want us to sign Oswalt/Kuroda/Maholm or even Jackson...

… however, unless we add at least one and probably three SPs, I’m not convinced it matters whether we have Youk at 3B or go ahead and play Middlebrooks there.

I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.

Wait ’til next year!

by AlohaSox on Dec 29, 2011 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

If we did Youk for Garza

I’d shit myself in anger, glee, then anger again.

You build on failure. You use it as a stepping stone. Close the door on the past. You don't try to forget the mistakes, but you don't dwell on it. You don't let it have any of your energy, or any of your time, or any of your space.
-Johnny Cash

by TheLoneDavid on Dec 29, 2011 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

perhaps that WILL happen

and we will revolutionize the pitching role. We will have three starters that pitch about 3 innings each every three days and then have the bullpen handle the last 6 innings.

by wolf9309 on Dec 29, 2011 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Ick.

You build on failure. You use it as a stepping stone. Close the door on the past. You don't try to forget the mistakes, but you don't dwell on it. You don't let it have any of your energy, or any of your time, or any of your space.
-Johnny Cash

by TheLoneDavid on Dec 29, 2011 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I mean, we all know he's kidding, but...

… it almost feels like it’s possible at this point.

I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.

Wait ’til next year!

by AlohaSox on Dec 29, 2011 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm scared Cherington's going to read that and then do it.

You build on failure. You use it as a stepping stone. Close the door on the past. You don't try to forget the mistakes, but you don't dwell on it. You don't let it have any of your energy, or any of your time, or any of your space.
-Johnny Cash

by TheLoneDavid on Dec 29, 2011 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Well that lead was shot lived

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by Marisa Ingemi on Dec 29, 2011 1:08 PM EST reply actions  

Well Ortiz, Wake and Tek are options

So I would count Hill there as well. Unless you mean because it is a minor league deal and not a major league one.

by The Name is Dalton on Dec 30, 2011 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

after

minor league deal doesn’t put him on the 40 man anyways- i think that was the rules

by wolf9309 on Dec 30, 2011 9:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not sure

Was it that they had to be on the 40 or the active roster by opening day?

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by Rogue Nine on Dec 30, 2011 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Pretty sure they have to make the 40 man, so this wouldn't count.

Nobody had him anyway, did they?

I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.

Wait ’til next year!

by AlohaSox on Dec 30, 2011 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Indeed no one did.

Joe, the reason we shout "WE ARE" and the reason the answer will always be "PENN STATE"

by Rogue Nine on Dec 30, 2011 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

True

But I’m only listing here those who people included

by BobZupcic on Dec 30, 2011 6:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Just noticed

that I included Rick Bentsen’s entry twice….jeez there were a ton of errors on this – my apologies

by BobZupcic on Dec 30, 2011 6:02 PM EST reply actions  

For shame.

You build on failure. You use it as a stepping stone. Close the door on the past. You don't try to forget the mistakes, but you don't dwell on it. You don't let it have any of your energy, or any of your time, or any of your space.
-Johnny Cash

by TheLoneDavid on Dec 30, 2011 6:27 PM EST up reply actions  

boooo

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by Marisa Ingemi on Dec 30, 2011 10:45 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

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by Bloggy on Jan 1, 2012 10:06 AM EST up reply actions  

I think Bob did a fantastic job. Say, that Ryan Madson sure looks a lot like Andrew Bailey, right Bob?

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by Brandon C. on Jan 2, 2012 12:34 AM EST up reply actions  

You mean...

I coulda lost twice? Thanks, BZ. :)

by Rick Bentsen on Jan 1, 2012 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

FA pitchers still available - I guess I would not complain for a 4 or 5 starter

Jackson, Harden, Peniero, Maholm, Vasquez, Oswalt, Kuroda, Madson, Iwakuma, Garland

I have to imagine the Sox will take a chance on 1 or 2 of those names – maybe the 1 year high risk high reward contracts coming off surgery?

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by Dave D on Dec 31, 2011 12:55 PM EST reply actions  

If they absolutely must put Bard in the rotation

I would hope that they sign Sheets, Webb, and Duchscherer to minor league deals, so that when Bard fails and is put back in the rotation we get two or three good start out of each of them before we have to make Andrew Miller a starter.

You build on failure. You use it as a stepping stone. Close the door on the past. You don't try to forget the mistakes, but you don't dwell on it. You don't let it have any of your energy, or any of your time, or any of your space.
-Johnny Cash

by TheLoneDavid on Dec 31, 2011 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Right, yes, my mistake.

When Bard fails and is put back in the bullpen or on the disabled list.

You build on failure. You use it as a stepping stone. Close the door on the past. You don't try to forget the mistakes, but you don't dwell on it. You don't let it have any of your energy, or any of your time, or any of your space.
-Johnny Cash

by TheLoneDavid on Dec 31, 2011 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

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