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The Armchair GM: Matt Sullivan, Red Sox (Fake) General Manager

With the unpleasant aftertaste of 2011 behind us, we shift our focus to making the 2012 Red Sox a better team from the bully pulpit that is Over the Monster. Matthew Kory and Marc Normandin have had their say, now its my turn.

 The Coaching Staff: The first challenge facing us is the search for a new manager. Replacing the popular Terry Francona will not be easy. Two candidates slated for interviews thus far are Pete Mackanin and Dale Sveum, both worthy candidates, but not necessarily dramatic choices. I am going in another direction; I am hiring Mike Maddux, Texas Rangers’ pitching coach.

Maddux has not yet served as a major league manager and as former pitcher and current pitching coach, he is not an obvious fit. However, the Boston offense has not been the team’s central problem for quite some time. This team can score runs, but it struggles most at keeping them off the board. In the short term, Maddux can help the team evaluate and acquire the starting pitching help we will need for the 2012 season. After all, this the pitching coach who took Colby Lewis from the NPL to the World Series and oversaw the conversion of C.J. Wilson from closer to starter. In the more distant future, Maddux can help the Red Sox develop and groom young pitchers in the mold of the Rangers’ new durability model.

It is hard to say what type of field general Maddux would be since he has not managed yet. I certainly would hope that he would not follow the Ron Washington School of Intentionally Walking the Entire World, but I will be sure to grill him about such things for eight to nine hours before hiring him. For help with the offensive side of the game, I would put my trust in hitting coach, Dave Magadan, and my new bench coach, Jason Varitek. Tek may choose to play another year, but it will not be with my Boston Red Sox, who have Jarrod Saltalamacchia and Ryan Lavarnway. Hopefully, a major league coaching position will be enough to persuade him to stick around. Putting Varitek next to Maddux helps keep a sense of continuity to the team. Hiring Maddux would also address the pitching coach issue, as Maddux could pick his own guy for the job. Finally, to replace Tim Bogar, I would bring in Tim Raines, currently manager of the Independent League’s Newark Bears and one of the greatest base runners of all time. He couldn’t do worse and he is named Tim, which is convenient for the older players. 

Star-divide

Options: The real Red Sox GM has already exercised the option for SS Marco Scutaro, a no-brainer in my opinion. He has also declined the options on Dan Wheeler and Scott Atchison. Wheeler had some tough luck and suffered from a proclivity for home runs but he did two things right: he got strikeouts (7.11 per 9) and he didn’t walk anyone (1.46 per 9). I am going to limit him to ROOGY work as much as possible, but I do hope to bring him back for around $1M. Miller on the other is out of chances as far as I am concerned. He has thrown 359.1 major league innings and walked an ungodly 5.68 per nine innings. He is not going to turn into a major league starter anytime soon and he is too risky in bullpen, especially since he somehow has an even higher walk rate against lefties (6.55 per 9). I don’t even see Miller as worthwhile minor league depth at this point.

Arbitration Cases: The Red Sox face one major arbitration case in Jacoby Ellsbury. In the interest of avoiding unpleasant battles I hope to secure Ellsbury to a 2 year/$18M contract, or roughly what he would expect to make anyway. If the Red Sox want to sign their superstar centerfielder long-term, downplaying his abilities in a hearing won’t help much. The rest of the group, Jarrod Saltalamacchia, Mike Aviles, Jed Lowrie, Alfredo Aceves, Franklin Morales and Darnell McDonald will all be affordable and I would expect to settle with most or all. The one exception is Darnell McDonald, who has become redundant with the presence of Mike Aviles.

Red Sox Free Agent Players: The Sox will have J.D. Drew, Tim Wakefield, Jason Varitek, Conor Jackson, Matt Albers, Trever Miller, Erik Bedard, David Ortiz and Jonathan Papelbon hitting the market. Varitek, Drew and Wake have been great for Boston, but I am letting them go along with Miller and Jackson. I already laid out my plan for Tek above.  While I would love to see Tim Wakefield’s name atop the Red Sox all-time win chart, he has lost his versatility, which was the key to his value for the last few years. Alfredo Aceves will take over that role for my Sox team. Drew almost certainly will retire. I’ll keep Albers as he is an effective low cost solution in the bullpen.

The real questions are Papi and Paps. Both players are extremely popular with fans and had excellent 2011 seasons. Unfortunately, both players are also going cost a significant amount and that cost is at a high risk. Ortiz is an aging slugger and the definition of a one-dimensional player. Paps will probably be looking to get a long term deal at a rate that has rarely been justifiable for closers.

I am signing Ortiz, after letting the market set his value and letting Paps go. Papelbon may be one of the only relievers capable of justifying a deal worth 5 years/$50M, but that doesn’t mean Boston should be the one to pay it. If Paps can’t command the money he wants, I might commit to the closer, but it has been clear for a long time that Papelbon wants his payday and giving long-term big money to a pitcher who will not even see 80 innings of work is very hard to justify. Daniel Bard’s miserable September might have changed the perception of his ability to close, but it doesn’t change the reality.  

Ortiz, on the other hand, could fit perfectly into my plans. The fear of Ortiz’s rapid decline has ebbed now that he has had two solid seasons in a row. It is likely that his 2008-2009 struggles were the remnants of his wrist injury. I would bring Ortiz back, though at a maximum of his $12.5M 2011 salary, for two years he would need to except $16 for the added security. As great as Papi is, he is still only a DH who can’t run or play the field and paying for his past heroics doesn’t make sense.

That leaves Erik Bedard as the Boston’s last free agent. Bedard is the definition of "injury-risk," and, as such, should come cheap and without the need to commit to more than two years. Those are the perfect conditions for Boston to re-sign him. Ideally, he should be available for around Marc’s estimate of 1 year/$6M and I would even go so far as to include a vesting option should he manage 180 innings, to make it a possible 2 year/$13M.

That puts my plan at around $165-$170M before we import anyone. Before we hit luxury tax penalties, we should be able to spend $15M -$20M more to fill in a few key gaps.

Free Agents/Trades: I will be involved in the conversation for top free agent starter C.J. Wilson but landing him is a long shot unless ownership decides to dramatically increase payroll and/or Bedard, Paps and Papi all leave. Realistically, we will need to either sign veterans in an attempt to duplicate what New York did in 2011 or make an aggressive trade.

I am going to the trade market. Our farm system has been regularly disparaged for its lack of major league ready talent following the Adrian Gonzalez trade. However, we do have some pieces I would be ready to move in a deal for pitching. While both Josh Reddick and Ryan Kalish have the potential to be above average major league players, only one of the two will factor into the Sox future. I want to sell high on Reddick this off-season. As a 24 year old player, Reddick had a good year for Boston, but he had an average strikeout rate and a below average walk rate, relying on his .318 BABIP to sustain his average-ish OBP. He has speed and a good glove and may well be a very good player in the future, but the outfield is a place we have some depth long term and Ryan Kalish may ultimately prove the superior player, thanks to better plate discipline. I would not hesitate to switch out Kalish for Reddick in such a deal, but Reddick likely has the higher value.

I am also looking to move Jose Iglesias before his value drops any further. I don’t believe in his bat, pure and simple. We also have Lars Anderson who is beyond prospect status now, but still could contribute to another team. That is three player players close to the majors for one pitcher. The guy I am looking to acquire is Oakland’s Brandon McCarthy. McCarthy broke out big time with Oakland last season at age 27, thanks to his intense study of Roy Halladay. He dropped his walk rate to the good doctor’s levels (1.32 per nine),  and went from a fly ball pitcher to a 46.7 GB%, without losing strikeouts (6.49 per nine). To land McCarthy, I’ll do what ever it will take, No one, not even top prospect,  Will Middlebrooks, will be off table, but any package will be conditional to McCarthy signing a long term deal with Boston (a la Adrian Gonzalez) McCarthy will be entering free agency after 2012 and Oakland is well stock with pitching talent under team control. So I think Reddick, Iglesias and Anderson (or another similar 3 player package) could get this done. Oakland will be selling high on him and should he stay with them and succeed, he will price himself out of town next year.

McCarthy may be young and supremely talented, but he is not without risk. He has only shown these elite skills this past season, before that he had far higher walk and fly ball rates. However, these skill are all repeatable. McCarthy did have some good fortune on home runs (he won't sustain a 6.4 HR/FB rate forever), but his BABIP was right around league average (.296) so this was no fluke. Additionally, he  had a very light workload while under 25, something that is often sighted as a key to long term durability. His 170 innings last season are the most he has ever thrown in a year and he should be primed to exceed that regularly going forward.  He is an under the radar player with team that has incentive to move him and could use some of our position players. I am doing this.

Saving money will be especially important as I plan to address the one offensive need the team has, a right-handed hitting outfielder, with the top player available. Carlos Beltran is a switch hitter and though he is no longer a plus defender, he can hold his own in any outfield position. He also hit in two very unfriendly places last season and still put up a .389 wOBA.

The market for Beltran is tough to gauge at this point. The Yankees will not need him, but a few other big market teams might make him a tough sign, especially the Giants. Beltran is still a great player, but at age 35 with his injury history, most teams won’t want to commit too much to him. I would try for a  2 years/$28M deal but I could see 2 years/ $32M being needed and justifiable, but that would be my max, no third year for us. Beltran gives the team more right-handed hitting and a productive outfielder for depth. Beltran, Youkilis and Lavarnway would all see some DH time and Kalish would play right against righties as much as possible to continue his development. Grady Sizemore would be a serviceable back up plan should Beltran slip away and likely cost less.

The rest of the pitching staff will have to come from in house, with Doubront and Weiland getting the first chances and Junchi Tazawa and Scott Atchison coming next. I would also consider Jeff Francis and Mitch Talbot for minor league contracts, but both may find full-time employment elsewhere. If Wake would consider a minor league contract, I certainly resign him in that capacity as well.

That would make our 2012 Red Sox easy favorites for the AL East and beyond and keep the team under the luxury cap. Our minor league system would suffer another set back, but this roster would make it all worthwhile.

 

Position

Player

 

Bench 

Player

C

Jarrod Saltalamacchia

 

IF

Jed Lowrie

1B

Adrian Gonzalez

 

UT

Mike Aviles

2B

Dustin Pedroia

 

4OF

Ryan Kalish

3B

Kevin Youkilis

 

C

Ryan Lavarnway

SS

Marco Scutaro

 

 

 

LF

Carl Crawford

 

SP6

Alfredo Aceves

CF

Jacoby Ellsbury

 

RP

Kyle Weiland

RF

Carlos Beltran/ Grady Sizemore

 

RP

Dan Wheeler

DH

David Ortiz

 

RP

Felix Doubront

SP1

Jon Lester

 

RP

Matt Albers

SP2

Josh Beckett

 

RP

Franklin Morales

SP3

Clay Buchholz

 

CL

Daniel Bard

SP4

Brandon McCarthy

 

 

 

SP5

Erik Bedard



 

 

 


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So you're going to spend a lot of money

To have a platoon in right field. One that will assuredly result in Kalish playing full time anyway.

by thedrizzl on Nov 2, 2011 9:40 AM EDT reply actions  

Maddux

Love the idea of Maddux as MGR. He is a cerebral, like his brother Greg. He seems to be a guy that won’t let the players dictate who plays and who doesn’t. (hello David Ortiz) he looks like a guy who would not allow a country club atmosphere.His knowledge of pitching is invaluble. He won’t have guys warming up and sitting down all night. He might help the Sox land C.J. Wilson, who would be a great pickup for so many reasons. His addition would round out a balanced 4 man rotation, two righties and two lefties, all good pitchers. Good lefthanded pitching can help alot when playing 9 games a year in Yankee stadium. Last of all, the Sox won’t have to face him.

by Robert57 on Nov 3, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

9 games is 5.5 % of the games played over the course of the season.

I don’t want to get a left handed pitcher just for the sake of (maybe) pitching him in Yankee Stadium.

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by TheLoneDavid on Nov 3, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's also, very potentially, the ALDS.

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by Bloggy on Nov 3, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's still a maximum of 13 games out of at least 172

(162 game season + 3 game ALDS sweep +7 game ALCS with Yankee HFA. Best case scenario for highest percentage of games played in Yankee Stadium.)

Those extra four games are 7.5 percent of total games played over the course of a season. I’m actually pretty cool with Lester, Beckett, Beckett, Buchholz in those four ALCS games in Yankee Stadium.

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by TheLoneDavid on Nov 3, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is one of those "Becketts" a "Bedard"?

Or do you have Beckett pitching there twice in a 7 game series?

Anywho, decent left-handed pitching is good to have is the bottom line. I do agree that you can’t pick your pitchers based on a small handful of games that you play in Yankee Stadium, though.

What does “HFA” mean?

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by Bloggy on Nov 3, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have Beckett starting Game 2 and Game 6, which would both be in New York.

My playoff rotation is Lester (NY) Beckett (NY) Buchholz (BOS) Bedard (BOS) Lester (BOS) Beckett (NY) Buchholz (NY)

I’m absolutely fine with picking up a left handed pitcher, but it should be because he’s a good pitcher, not because we want a left hander to pitch in Yankee Stadium.

And HFA is Home Field Advantage.

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by TheLoneDavid on Nov 3, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

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by Bloggy on Nov 3, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Beltran would not be platooned, just given plenty of rest

since his knees are problematic, he gets DH time as well and Kalish fills in for any outfielder who needs rest or DL time, maybe that is poorly explained, Sizemore though would be more platoon like but both would be full time RF playing btw 120-140 games, Kalish also still has options so he get yo-yoed a bit unfortunately

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by Mattsullivan on Nov 2, 2011 9:54 AM EDT reply actions  

Beltran?

Why would the Sox pay Beltran to play RF when they could make better use of that money on pitching? I bet the same money would land Harden or even Darvish. No way. either open up RF for competitiion between Reddick and Kalish, or sign Cuddyer.

by Scoop1981 on Nov 2, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

No to Harden

I’d rather pay the supremely luxurious price on Beltran than get Harden.

I also really don’t get the Cuddyer love. He’s a Type A free agent so he’ll cost a draft pick, he won’t be THAT cheap, and he will most likely suck defensively in RF. What’s to like?

by South Coast Ghost on Nov 2, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cuddyer

I see a very solid, reliable veteran OF that can help address the need for a RH bat on the Sox. There would still be an opportunity for Reddick or Kalish to play and see time in the OF. I’m curious to see what the market is like for a Cuddyer; he will likely demand a pricey (10 – $12) annual value, but I’m not sure he sees many deals for more than 2 years. That cost, if the Sox want to go in this direction, will not deter them. Honestly, I don’t know what type of a fielder Cuddyer is, but Reddick is not Dwight Evans out there.

by Scoop1981 on Nov 2, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cuddyer isn't good defensively

Here’s a comparison of Beltran and Cuddyer:

Last year:
Beltran – (598 PA) .300 AVG/.385 OBP/.525 SLG./910 OPS/.389 wOBA/151 wRC+
Cuddyer – (584 PA) .284 AVG.346 OBP/.459 SLG/.805 OPS/.354 wOBA/124 wRC+

The past three seasons:
Beltran – .298 AVG/.384 OBP/.497 SLG/.881 OPS/.380 wOBA/140 wRC+
Cuddyer – .276 AVG/.341 OBP/.465 SLG/.806 OPS/.351 wOBA/117 wRC+

v. RHP (the last three years):
Beltran – .297 AVG/.394 OBP/.456 SLG/.850 OPS/.369 wOBA/133 wRC+
Cuddyer – .268 AVG/.322 OBP/.425 SLG/.747 OPS/.327 wOBA/101 wRC+

v. LHP (the last three years):
Beltran – .299 AVG/.357 OBP/.609 SLG/.965 OPS/.404 wOBA/157 wRC+
Cuddyer – .300 AVG/.389 OBP/.569 SLG/.958 OPS/.404 wOBA/153 wRC+

Cuddyer is many more PA against LHP. But it’s pretty clear that Beltran is a much better hitter. Cuddyer is a platoon player, average against righties and very good against lefties. The problem with playing a player like Cuddyer everyday is that 60-75% of his PA will be against RHP.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Nov 2, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Beltran

Forget the DP. Beltran can help the team win next year, and the year after. He adds all of the ingredients that the Sox need to complete a fine lineup.. Don’t overpay him, put give him a fair two year deal. If this team had no chance of winning, I would worry more about surrendering a DP.

by Robert57 on Nov 3, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Beltran doesn't cost a draft pick

he’ll also almost certainly sign a 3 year deal and will almost certainly spend half of it on the DL.

Also, the Sox have a fine lineup.

by wolf9309 on Nov 3, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Free Agents

No way I rely on Reddick or Kalish. This core of players can win it all. It needs quality veterans to win now. Both R. and K. could be good trade bait. Sign Beltran and or Cuddyer Both offer alot to a team. Beltran can still steal a base,will take a walk, is a gold glover, and in a hitters park, his numbers should improve. He can bat righthanded which is a critical need. Cuddyer gives the team many options. Play RF, or 3rd while letting Papi walk and usingYouk as the DH, who still can flash the leather if needed..After that, they will have to replace Pap with a proven closer. Ryan Madson would be my choice. Since it is so hard and costly to pick up SP’s, you add to the bullpen instead .Bettencourt,Oliver,Saito,and F-Rod are all out there. F-Rod proved he can be a setup man if you get Madson. If not, he is still a capable closer. Any of the four above would greatly enhance their chances of winning. if you can re-sign Wheeler at a million, and never let him face a lefthnded bat, he would help.

by Robert57 on Nov 3, 2011 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

PS

Lowrie, Bard, Reddick,Kalish,Salty, Iglesius,and Doubrount should be trade bait. Any or all, if it brings a number one starter. Lowrie and Bard should interest other teams as both had off years,but could rebound. Salty proved he is a major leaguer cather of average value. Ramon Hernandez would be a great aquisition as he is a good RH hitter with lots of experience. Lavernway gets his feet wet as a backup. Go for it next year!

by Robert57 on Nov 3, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bard didn't have an off-year

He had a bad couple of outings. He also had a month or so where he didn’t let up a single run. People are putting far too much stock on his bad couple of outings and not looking at his year as a whole.

No way do I trade Salty and spend money on Hernandez. Salty is a switch hitter and did better than expected on both defense and offense and a year under his belt dealing with the pitching staff. Hernandez will be a 36 year old catcher and again, his being Right handed is not important.

Right handed bats are not a “critical need” at all. Do you realize this team was I believe 3rd in all of baseball against LHP? That is quite the opposite of being a “critical” issue.

by The Name is Dalton on Nov 3, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure why alot of people think Cuddyer gives them alot of options in the field?

Yes, he has played several positions. But, the majority of his play time in recent years is at RF (where his defense would be a liability in Fenway’s gigantic RF) and at 1B where we have Gonzalez and Youk as a back-up. Almost all of the innings he logged at 3B were 2005-2006, and has had a grand total of 74 innings at LF/CF combined and around 530 innings at 2B. He has had hardly anytime on the left side of the field in the last several years and it’s for a good reason.

He is deaf in his left ear and communication isn’t the easiest thing for him. He lost it when he was 11, and he has done an tremendous job getting to where he is and dealing with it. He was able to work out a way to communicate with the SS when he played 3B for the Twins those couple of years but obviously the team prefers not to take the risk of bad communication.

If he came here he would almost surely be restricted to DH, RF and in theory very rare 1B or 2B duties. None of which is he the best option for. Not even with the current roster of the team.

I should add that Cuddyer is by all accounts a good leader and clubhouse guy and very nice person. But from a on the field perspective, he really DOESN’T give them alot of options in the field.

by The Name is Dalton on Nov 3, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Add in the fact that he is a Type A free agent

and would likely be a 2+ year deal and at the very least 9-10 million per year and I have a hard time understanding why he is still considered a good option.

by The Name is Dalton on Nov 3, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

there is literally zero chance that Tek comes back as a coach

he’s just recently married, has a couple young daughters he’d probably like to spend some summers with, has a whole bundle of money, and has said in interviews that he doesn’t know if he’d ever be interested in managing, but maybe someday in the very distant future. If he retires, he’ll enjoy retirement, at least for a while.

McCarthy certainly had a good year and has always had a lot of potential, but his reputation for being fragile isn’t just because of the low innings pitched- it’s because the reason his innings pitched were as low as they were is that he’s been pretty seriously injured for a lot of his young career. I think he’s definitely an interesting candidate- and more acquirable than the other A’s names I’ve seen thrown about such as Cahill and Gonzalez, but I wouldn’t give up Middlebrooks for him.

Chances are that if you and I don’t think that Iglesias will be able to hit in the major leagues, most other team’s evaluators are probably in the same boat. So I think he’s tradeable, certainly, but his value is likely going to be closer to that of someone like John McDonald than someone of real value. Also, while I realize that Anderson was almost a piece that went to the A’s instead of Harden, I think the A’s have since filled that hole (the hole of crappy-triple-A first baseman who maybe, just maybe might be better than Daric Barton) with Kila Ka’aihue. That said, given his lack of durability and one year of team control, I would think that McCarthy could be had for Reddick and a low-level prospect with decent upside.

There’s nothing on your team that I hate except the bullpen, which lacks any real setup man to get to Bard. If we want to get Bard success as a closer, we need to have someone relatively proven leading up to him, so that we aren’t frequently pulling Bard in to finish out the 8th with the bases loaded.

Oh, one other thing, Darnell missed the super 2 cutoff (I think by like 2 days or something), so he’ll still be practically free. I expect him to at least go into spring training with the team, barring some enormous 40-man roster crunch.

by wolf9309 on Nov 2, 2011 10:01 AM EDT reply actions  

i'd make Tek that offer anyway

either he returns as a coach, retires or tries his final year elsewhere regardless, Boston does it right by making him the offer. It’s his choice. Pennington has not been much on offense or defense thus far and may be better suited to a utility role so I could see them wanting a top gloveman at ss, as for kila ka’aihue, his issue is defense and he could be dh, he is far better than anderson. Maybe they want lars or not, my point is he has some value and McCarthy is my guy. I am not sure what to make of his " micro stress fracture" of the shoulder blade, but he has no history of muscle damage or surgury and has just pitched as much as all but two 2011 -ox starters. I guess I have to trust my medical exams ;)

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by Mattsullivan on Nov 2, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

the bigger concern to me about McCarthy

is the year he missed because of elbow inflammation

by wolf9309 on Nov 2, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

His last year scares me a lot

k rate vanished and swinging strikes down a ton. That said, if he was cheap, I’d love to be able to give him a shot. Basically, I’d just like to at least have a bunch of guys with some potential to throw in there and give a chance to.

by wolf9309 on Nov 2, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

When he moved

out of the closer role he was better. I think he’s like every other reliever not named Rivera. One year he could be really good, and one year he could suck big time. I think he could be a good set up guy this year. But I definitely think they should bring in a bunch of relievers and see who sticks.

by aubatron2011 on Nov 2, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Papelbon

Paps is another reliever that has been good every year over an extended period of time. Other than Rivera, or Hoffman before he retired, I can’t think of a more reliable closer than Paps.

by Scoop1981 on Nov 2, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

On problem is a RP's season is too small a sample

SP’s throw 180-220 innings, most closers don’t even max out at half that sample. It is hard to judge them with such small samples and long time periods need to reach a meaningful sample. Back in the day, Billy Wagner was as good as it gets, better than Hoffman.

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www.spacemanspancakes.wordpress.com

by Mattsullivan on Nov 2, 2011 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good Idea

Capps is coming off a bad season and could turn it around. He should come cheaply.

by Robert57 on Nov 3, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

McCarthy

That is an interesting thought and I honestly had not heard his name come up at all as a potential target. I like the idea of exploring it, but I would be a bit scared going into next year as him and Bedard as our #4-5 guys. McCarthy could be primed to exceed 170 innings going forward, but I’m not sure how to even gauge how likely it is given why his innings counts were low. Another item on him is that of his 170-ish innings, 101 were either at Oakland’s pitcher friendly ballpark or at SafeCo field against an anemic Seattle offense. Not a deal-breaker given his approach has changed, but something to consider.

I also do not seeing Iglesias as having any appeal to the Athletics. They have Pennington and their top rated prospect in some rankings is Grant Green, who they may have to move to CF just to get him in the lineup sooner. Wolf above may be right though, that given McCarthy’s history he might be able to be had for only Reddick+low level guy or something similar.

As far as Bedard, I wouldn’t count on him going more than 15-20 starts…he hasn’t topped 130 innings in four years. Which is acceptable for a #5…IF f you have better options than Kyle Weiland and Alfredo Aceves as the primary SP back-ups. Hopefully Doubront comes back and shows us something.

I am not a huge fan of signing Beltran to a deal that will pay him 8 figures annually even for a couple years given the rest of the plan you lay out. To each his own, but $14-16 million could easily sign 1-2 guys for SP depth which was one of the most if not THE most hurtful problem this year. With Dice-K and Lackey out, it will be the primary problem this offseason, and I’m not sure how it can be argued otherwise. This team hit pretty well against left handed pitchers last year and was an offensive power. I think the “need” for a RH outfield bat is there, but it is somewhat overstated unless they decide and are able to trade Youkilis for SP help.

If they don’t bring Papi back and they can get a cheaper, stopgap 3B than I could in theory be more able to accept a 2-year deal for Beltran because he would only be a couple of million more than what Papi would cost and he would justify the extra cost due to being a full-time RF’er. Youk has more time at DH so you’re essentially trading the offense of Youk+Papi+2011 RF for Youk+Beltran+2012 3B….with Youk likely staying healthier without being in the field a lot.

Personally, I don’t see Kalish as a 4th OF for this season, espeicially not to start. After missing most of this year, they are going to want to get him regular at-bats and fielding time. I would assume he (unless he is traded) will start in AAA and be first in line for call-ups. Kalish’s value will not go back up by being a back-up Outfielder getting a handful of at-bats a week. And with a guy like Beltran , Kalish’s spot on the MLB team would be almost certainly a strict 4th OF and not platoon spot.

by The Name is Dalton on Nov 2, 2011 10:12 AM EDT reply actions  

I hadn't thought of McCarthy

as a possible trade piece. That would make some sense as long as we don’t have to sell the farm for him. If not McCarthy I can see a trade being one way for the Sox to fill out the rotation.

by aubatron2011 on Nov 2, 2011 10:13 AM EDT reply actions  

Damn, McCarthy had a FIP of 2.86 last year. xFIP 3.30.

I totally did not realize how good of a year he had.

That said, I do think people in the comments continue to underestimate how much it takes to trade for good starting pitching. A package with Redick as the best prospect included is absolutely not going to get it done. It would certainly take one of Middlebrooks, Ranaudo, or Bogaerts, plus another lower-but-not-too-low prospect.

Still, props to Matt for the idea. It’s true that McCarthy is more attainable than other good starting pitchers because of his limited track record. If Matt was our GM, I’d definitely want him looking into it seriously.

by Jake_W on Nov 2, 2011 10:47 AM EDT reply actions  

he just doesn't have a track record as being a pitcher that good

or any kind of health track record. I wouldn’t trade either of those three guys for him

by wolf9309 on Nov 2, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rannaudo should

be untouchable. He’s the one pitcher that could be our Matt Moore, Ivan Nova, Hellickson. The Sox need a jolt from a young stud pitcher, and Rannaudo has the best shot to be that guy.

by aubatron2011 on Nov 2, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

If you think Ranaudo has a chance to be Matt Moore,

you are going to be very disappointed. A strikeout rate of 7.4 per 9 as a 22-year-old in A+ ball does not a future ace make.

For comparison, Matt Moore’s k/9 in the minors never dipped below 11.5!

by Jake_W on Nov 2, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

What I meant is

he has a chance to be a very good pitcher. You’ll notice I included Ivan Nova and Hellickson as well. He may not be the ace but he could be a two and be under our control for a long time that could allow use flexibility to acquire an ace.

by aubatron2011 on Nov 2, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you need to remember that

Ranaudo was in his first year as a pro and had missed much of the previous year due to injury. His numbers in A+ in 2011 are not his whole potential, he has 2-3 starter upside, though average MLB pitcher is most likely, Next year will determine alot

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by Mattsullivan on Nov 2, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

also Hellickson was more lucky than good

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by Mattsullivan on Nov 2, 2011 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good call on McCarthy, underrated pitcher that could be traded this off-season. A’s have wanted Anderson in the past, they could match up well on a deal.

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by Brandon C. on Nov 2, 2011 10:52 AM EDT reply actions  

Wouldn't keeping Kalish on the bench

especially after missing so much of last season with injury, stunt his development? If he is coming back from an injury, he’s gonna need consistent at-bats.

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by Bloggy on Nov 2, 2011 11:07 AM EDT reply actions  

My ears are wide open on McCarthy, though.

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by Bloggy on Nov 2, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

That bullpen sucks!

Weiland?
Dubront?

Where is Jenks? (although the pen still sucks). To be fair, I know it is early and hard to tell how the Sox will remake the bullpen, but better to leave a ? in the slots than induce vomit with that bullpen roster.

by Scoop1981 on Nov 2, 2011 11:23 AM EDT reply actions  

Paplebon

5 years, $50 mil. ? I can’t see any team paying that. 3 x $12 is more realistic and some team may stretch to 4 years at a slightly lower average annual payout.

I believe Paplebon is a priority to keep. Ortiz is a unique case and the market is way, way smaller. I see Ortiz as both a priority and an easy deal to make.
Paplebon has proven his ability to perform at a high level on the biggest stage possible. Sure, he has had his failures, but I would be hesitant to move on from the best closer in Red Sox history so easily.

by Scoop1981 on Nov 2, 2011 11:30 AM EDT reply actions  

you aren't going to convince me to pay $10M + long term for a reliever anytime soon

almost every big money reliever deal has been a wasteof cash and at some point the pitchers we are developing as starters have to been able to contribute in the pen, if not doubront and weiland, tazawa or even ranaudo. Like buchholz and masterson before, we can build this pen with what we have. As far as jenks, when he is healthy he takes weilands roster spot since weiland has options. We should have a few million in room to add another left handed reliever at some point. The bottom line is relievers, even Paps and Rivera, are failed starters we can handle the loss of papelbon better than ortiz and that money is better spent on full time player, imho.

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by Mattsullivan on Nov 2, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fair enough...but...

What do we have to build with? The pitchers you name are totally unproven and have not shown much (Weiland, my god!) when called upon. A few million in room? has a salary cap been implemented? Also, the Sox and every other team can only choose from a very small group of available resources…so what if you have $10 mil to throw around; this is not the deli counter, the Sox can’t simply buy $10 mil. worth of pitching or anything else, they have to choose and commit to players available to them.
Fine, play the Moneyball game with closers, but what sucessful team wins without a good closer? I envision Bard being ruined as the closer next year if Paps walks.

by Scoop1981 on Nov 2, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

why in particular do you assume Bard will be ruined as a closer?

He’s pitched more innings than Papelbon both of the last two years- if he’s struggling at the end of the year, maybe that slight reduction in innings will help him stay strong through the whole year.

by wolf9309 on Nov 2, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just a hunch

I just don’t see the emotion out of Bard. While a cool demeanor is best for all other players, I look for more of the prototypical football makeup out of my closer. Just my take, but think about the top closers and they all seem to have some “edge” to them; I like Bard and he may do fine, but I have my doubts.

by Scoop1981 on Nov 2, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really?

The greatest closer of all time is probably also the most workmanlike, emotionless one of all of them.

by Sologub on Nov 2, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup.

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by Bloggy on Nov 2, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

NBA Officiating - Corrupt? Incompetent? Which is worse? Does it matter? It sucks.

by mmmmm on Nov 2, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK, that is unquestionably Rivera...

and he is not a fountain of emotion, but he displays a fair ammount -

Hrabosky
Mitch Williams

Pablebon
Wilson
K-Rod

by Scoop1981 on Nov 2, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good teams without a good closer-

2011 AL Champion Texas Rangers- Closer Nefatli Feliz, FIP 3.57 xFIP 4.27 1 WAR, best reliever Mike Adams was acquired at the deadline to setup and best RP with the team all year was Darren Oliver. Feliz’s inability to keep people off base came back to haunt them
2011 World Champion Cardinals- Closer Fernando Salas 3.16 FIP 3.62 1 WAR Actually had a good closer by year’s end when they gave the job to Jason Motte, but he was not even top a 10 RP
 
The two best closers of 2011 were the Braves Craig Kimbrel and Paps, interesting how that worked out.

2010 NL East Champion Phillies Closer ? Madison pitched in 2010 but only logged 5 saves as the Phillies never had a consistent closer

2010 AL Champion Texas Rangers- Closer Frank Francisco 3.18 FIP 3.28 xFIP not good by any measure, not top 10…

Really you can go on and on like this… The team with the lead in the 9th wins 95% of games hiostorically, closer era and non-closer era alike.

While there is no hard cap, there is a salary cap due to the luxury tax. Call me crazy, but I don’t like the idea of paying the Tampa Bay Rays to knock us out of the playoff hunt, which is effectively what passing the salary cap means.

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by Mattsullivan on Nov 2, 2011 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

MLB desperately needs a salary floor

something like $65 million.

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by TheLoneDavid on Nov 2, 2011 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

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by Mattsullivan on Nov 2, 2011 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Indeed

With the amount of revenue sharing $ that changes hands, there should be some sort of cap floor in place.

by The Name is Dalton on Nov 2, 2011 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Minor clarification

Luxury tax payments do not go to other teams so you wouldn’t really be paying TB.

But it really doesn’t change your underlying point….which seems to be that there are soft caps in place that do influence how they decide to spend money. But if that is your reason to not want to exceed the luxury tax cap, then I wouldn’t worry about it.

by The Name is Dalton on Nov 2, 2011 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the team doesn't want to exceed it

Because of the bottom line…they are still a business after all. Plus, there has always been a slightly negative stigma (word usage?) with going over it.

by The Name is Dalton on Nov 2, 2011 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it's time to commit to Reddick

We have a potent offence, so we might as well see if we can go with him for the year. It’s not like we’re counting on the right field position for runs. He seems decent out there in the field to me (a dropsie or two, notwithstanding).

We give Kalish another year in the minors to regain his stride following his injury or package him in a trade to get us some (hopefully more) pitching.

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by Bloggy on Nov 2, 2011 2:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Right, I don't get the urgency to upgrade our amazing lineup.

Here’s a great way to get our lineup for next year:
-Let Reddick start in right field. Our right field sucked last year and our offense was OK.
-Let Kalish start in AAA and prove that he doesn’t belong there. If he does that and Reddick sucks, give him the right field job.
-Get a cheap, complementary RHB who can play all three outfield positions (doesn’t need to be really well) and hit lefties.
-Let Lavarnway be the backup catcher. Keep Gary Tuck around and have Ryan catch the bullpens and learn how major leaguers pitch on days he isn’t catching.
-Let Ortiz look around and, when he finds that no one is willing to pay for him, offer him 2 years for $20 million (or $25 if you’re feeling really nice)
-that’s all. That’s a hell of a lineup and doesn’t cost extra.

pitchingpitchingpitchingpitchingpitching. Get me pitching.

Just remember, if you trade Reddick for it before the season starts, then you need to spend on a real right fielder- which can be OK in the right scenario. But all moves we make should be focused towards getting the best possible pitching for a cheap as possible, not on improving our lineup, especially not spending all that money improving our lineup with players who are probably gonna get hurt (sorry Carlos)

by wolf9309 on Nov 2, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm OK with that

but what pitching? Reddick & Ranaudo for Wandy Rodriguez? Can’t just say pitching and nix every name brought up. I’m OK with taking another flyer on Bedard and maybe bring in Harden for a look see. Now on my way to Cot’s to see about OF’s.

by Scoop1981 on Nov 2, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wandy

is due 10 mil in 2012 ans 13 mil in 2013 w/ a 2.5 mil buyout in 2014. Not sure the FO wants to sink more long-term money into pitching but he could probably be had from the obviously rebuilding Astros for a few prospects (Reddick/Iglesias?)

by BobZupcic on Nov 2, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I certainly haven't nixed any names that have come up

I think the FA money should be spent on Oswalt and Bedard or a similar incentive-related guy.

Wandy is not worth his contract, never mind it plus Reddick, plus Ranaudo. I think his contract will preclude a deal- partly because it would make it so we likely couldn’t afford a right fielder.

I’d be OK with moving Reddick for McCarthy as suggested earlier. Darvish is an interesting name, though I’m skeptical of him. Danks I like, though I don’t know the White Sox needs at all.

by wolf9309 on Nov 2, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree, and

I fear Wandy in the AL East and Fenway. I don’t mind a fly ball pitcher, but for us I prefer a RH. Essentially by taking on Wandy’s contract you are paying Oswalt type money for a pitcher less suited to the enviroment.

The other name I would be all over is Gavin Floyd. He doesn’t have the upside of McCarthy but he is maybe a safer bet. The White Sox could like some of our outfielders though the price for pitching is still going to be high, reddick and a mid-level prospect are gonna be enough for most team, at least until the trade deadline

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by Mattsullivan on Nov 2, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gavin Floyd

is definitely a possibility, I think. The White Sox could bring Buehrle back, and keep Danks. They have Chris Sale to put into the rotation, so trading Floyd may not cost an arm and a leg for them because they believe they have a ready made replacement for him.

by aubatron2011 on Nov 2, 2011 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

- Reddick/Kalish for RF against righties – work to trade the other
- Cody Ross type for 4th outfielder, or take a flier on DeJesus if you want more defense
- Lavarnway needs to make the team – nothing left for him at AAA (he actually had better fielding metrics than Salty)
- Look to trade for pitching AND sign a few vets: Harden/Bedard, etc (I wouldn’t mind Harden in the pen – wonder why that hasn’t en tried already)

by BobZupcic on Nov 2, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't trade think I'd trade Reddick or Kalish until midseason

Unless there’s someone really appealing. I try to patch up the pitching with short term free agents, and then give Kalish some time in AAA to regain some value and trade him to fill what holes we probably have.

by wolf9309 on Nov 2, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

a possibility

although I still believe that Kalish will be a much better ML player than Reddick

by BobZupcic on Nov 2, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe that too

but I believe he’ll spend most of his career injured

by wolf9309 on Nov 2, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

The need for offensive upgrades comes from the fact that we can't expect 2011 results for 2012

Ellsbury had a year that is not common for anyone even inner circle HoFer and maybe he will be that- but two years of 9 WAR in a row? Not a good bet to make.
Pedroia was better than he was in his 2008 MVP season, again another 8 WAR isn’t a likely result for him.
Papi could easily repeat his 4.2 WAR, but I think 3-3.5 is a more reasonable estimate for him.
Even if Carl Crawford returns to his 6 WAR ways and Youk is fully healthy we will be counting another 2 WAR level from Reddick and Salty and more from Aviles and Lowrie then we got last year. If we replace Reddick with a player who can put up 4-5 WAR easily, we hedge our best substantially.

The main issue for me is the level of free agent pitcher available this year. I think we need to make a McCarthy like move and add one or two reasonable arms for 1 year but this is a pitching crop I would buy into.

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by Mattsullivan on Nov 2, 2011 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

the thing is

even if those guys regress next year, this will still be a very good offense. Our pitching will not be.

by wolf9309 on Nov 2, 2011 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

These were my thoughts when he started to struggle.

The offense is great, with or without Reddick hitting. We don’t lose a whole lot by starting him and if Kalish is healthy, he might step in and even be an upgrade over him. I’m really not interested in a RF this off-season. Some like to say we need a RH bat, but we were second in baseball against LHP last year and first against RHP (by wOBA .351 to .350) our balance of righties to lefties in the lineup was just fine.

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...even the fanpost headlines Tulo.

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by Rogue Nine on Nov 2, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maddox

Maybe if he got the job he would bring another Maddox with him as the pitching coach and jerseys would be M. Maddox & G. Maddox.

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or

M. Maddux and G. Maddux

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Yeah..phone auto correct. Thanks!

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by Bama Sox on Nov 3, 2011 5:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I'm also a strong proponent of trading Iglesias

I’ve read nothing that tells me he can handle a bat. If, down the road, he turns out to be a good hitter, I’m more than willing to eat that and say that most people didn’t see that coming, so no hard feelings.

If we can get something for him, get it.

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by Bloggy on Nov 2, 2011 6:46 PM EDT reply actions  

I think now is the time to move him

if he continues to struggle at AAA next year he will be a utility player in most minds. Xander Bogaerts is the SS of the future anyway, until he isn’t, of course.

I also worry that now might be the time to move Middlebrooks as well. When I hear Keith Law say “he needs to work on picking up breaking balls, but that aside he should hit 25-30 HR’s” It sounds to me like he might be describing Jeff Francoeur. I tend to notice that selective hitters with meh power get underrated in the prospect rankings (Youk, Votto, Ackley) while free swinging mashers get too much love. If I guy will a great eye gets to the show and develops power, he becomes one of the game’s best hitters, but if a free swinger with power arrives and the eye doesn’t come, he is verging on AAAA. Both cases work out or fail at times, but the rankings always seem to favor the latter. Middlebrooks has the advantage of a highly praised glove, so he is still a very nice player in my mind, but it might not be a bad time to sell high either.

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