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Dale Sveum Scheduled For Second Interview

According to Ken Rosenthal at Fox Sports, former Red Sox coach and current Brewers's hitting coach Dale Sveum has earned a second interview with the Red Sox for their vacant manager position. Sveum was one of five candidates interviewed in the first round, part of a group that included Pete Mackanin, Sandy Alomar Jr., Gene Lamont, and Torey Luvullo. Rosenthal also reports that one other from that group will also receive a second interview; sorry, Nick Cafardo, but Bobby Valentine isn't in the group they've interviewed, and therefore isn't eligible for this second interview.*

*I thought the fake mustache and glasses were cool, too, but Cafardo has hit a level where I fear he is going to interview a Valentine doll dressed up in a Red Sox uniform after games instead of the real Red Sox manager. He's been mentioning him since before Terry Francona had left Boston, even. Then again, I'm sure Nick will be able to make the same joke about me later in the winter when I start to pine for Scott Hairston to mash lefties part-time in right field and don't quit even when it's clear it isn't happening.

Now, I don't know as much about these candidates as the Red Sox do, given they spent hours and hours with them, asking them very specific questions about game situations, statistics, and much more, but from what little we have been exposed to via the post-interview sessions with the media, Sveum and Mackanin are my personal preferences. Obviously, Ben Cherington likes Sveum, too (via Tim Britton):

"He's a passionate baseball guy, and we knew that when he was here," Cherington said after the Red Sox interviewed Sveum on Nov. 2. "Just a lot of substance to his baseball thought process and how he goes about teaching the game, making decisions during the game. He's familiar with the city, familiar with some people in the organization."

You might be thinking, "But third base coach! Sending runners! Rabble rabble!" but remember, these are two completely different jobs. If the players and Sveum can have a working relationship that helps keep another September 2011 from happening, who cares if he wasn't the greatest third base coach in the world? Plus, it's not like anyone likes their third base coach. Do you know how excited Tigers' fans are to have Gene Lamont possibly be Boston's next manager? Chances are good we would see the same reaction from nearly any team were their third base coach to be interviewing.

As for Mackanin? Pocket square and stat analysis

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Preference for Red Sox manager?
Dale Sveum
60 votes
Pete Mackanin
70 votes
Sandy Alomar Jr.
36 votes
Torey Luvullo
16 votes
Gene Lamont
12 votes

194 votes | Poll has closed

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Look at the two other managerial positions

that have been filled. The White Sox and Cardinals have taken much bigger risks by hiring Ventura and Matheny as managers, neither guy has been a manager at any level. As said in the article being a bad third base coach doesn’t correlate to being a bad manager. I think the reason Mackanin and LaMont have been brought in is for interviews to be Bench coaches for a realitively inexperienced manager.

by aubatron2011 on Nov 14, 2011 10:38 AM EST reply actions  

That Would Be Awkward...

Hypothetical:
“Hey guys, Dale’s got the job, but we want you to be a bench coach because we don’t think you’re good enough.”

At least that’s the message that would seemingly be sent.

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by Raj Ghetia on Nov 14, 2011 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

I'd still like to offer the Bench Coach job to Ryne Sandberg no matter who we hire as manager

And basically tell him “We’d like to see what you can do on a major league coaching staff, if we like you, we’ll promote you or find someone to give you that manager’s role.”

I'm a 7 WAR player in bed.
DFA Rev Halofan, The New York Yankees, The Tampa Bay Blue Seats, Carl Crawford, John Lackey, Darnell McDonald, Dave Magadan, Tim Bogar, Buck Showalter, Dan Johnson, Hawk Harrelson, Jonah Keri, Murray Chass, Mark Sanchez, Micheal Vick, Jared Allen, Jerry Jones, Al Davis, Rex Ryan, Rob Ryan, Trent Dilfer, Heath Evans, Cris Carter, Vuvuzelas, The Chicken Dance, Lady Gaga, Justin Bieber, Stephanie Meyer, and the entire fucking city of Philadelphia.

by TheLoneDavid on Nov 14, 2011 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Well the fact they were brought in the first place

would show that the Sox thought they were good enough to interview. Mackanin might have a bigger problem with the arrangemen, because it wouldn’t be a promotion., where as Lamont gets a promotion.

by aubatron2011 on Nov 14, 2011 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

You forgot to put Bobby Valentine in the the poll.

Galactus does as he pleases. Because Galactus is drunk.

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by Bloggy on Nov 14, 2011 11:49 AM EST reply actions  

Rec'd

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Nov 14, 2011 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Really not enamored with any of those picks

Of the five, Mackanin is the only one I think could really be a good manager. Sveum could be a perfectly good manager elsewhere, but I think because of his experience here, the Sox need completely fresh blood in the clubhouse, regardless of whether most of the guys on the team weren’t around when he coached.

by The Burning Scheyer Jersey on Nov 14, 2011 11:52 AM EST reply actions  

If you're Ben Cherington,

who is the first GM that you sit down with at the GM meetings(other than Theo and Jed) to get the ball rolling on a trade?

by aubatron2011 on Nov 14, 2011 4:29 PM EST reply actions  

Tough one

But I have to look at what starting pitchers are being put out there as bait. And I mean within the GM rumor mill, not the rumor mill that we are privy to (Media).

Top of my head (not in any order)
A’s – Gio/McCarthy/Cahill
Brew Crew – Marcum
White Sox – Danks, Floyd

I would push hard to get one of those guys for a #4 slot. The Braves want a Greinke-like return for Jurrjens (who I don’t think would be worth it in the AL East), and the A’s supposedly want more than what the Rays got for Garza. I would be more likely to do it for Gio, but still wary of those two.

by The Name is Dalton on Nov 14, 2011 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd rather go after Marcum/Danks/Floyd

than Gio or Jurrjens. I’m concerned Gio might be a construct of Oakland.

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DFA Rev Halofan, The New York Yankees, The Tampa Bay Blue Seats, Carl Crawford, John Lackey, Darnell McDonald, Dave Magadan, Tim Bogar, Buck Showalter, Dan Johnson, Hawk Harrelson, Jonah Keri, Murray Chass, Mark Sanchez, Micheal Vick, Jared Allen, Jerry Jones, Al Davis, Rex Ryan, Rob Ryan, Trent Dilfer, Heath Evans, Cris Carter, Vuvuzelas, The Chicken Dance, Lady Gaga, Justin Bieber, Stephanie Meyer, and the entire fucking city of Philadelphia.

by TheLoneDavid on Nov 14, 2011 7:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Frankly, I don't think we even have more than what the Rays got for Garza

I’d definitely look into Marcum, but don’t see him moving. Danks and Floyd are both intriguing, but the more I think about it, I think the more I am preferring the idea of trying to get Edwin Jackson on a 2-3 year deal and keep our players. He’s really been much more effective the last couple of years. I think he’d be just fine as a #4 guy. Oswalt is still my #1 choice. With Papelbon gone, we should be able to afford either of them pretty easily.

by wolf9309 on Nov 14, 2011 8:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Floyd is fairly cheap and under control for two years

so if the Sox could trade for him they could still afford E. Jackson.

by aubatron2011 on Nov 14, 2011 10:15 PM EST up reply actions  

true

thing is, it’s not like I’m crazy about Jackson or anything, I just like the idea of saving our prospects and players as they are as much as possible. While I feel like Danks is probably better, Floyd may well be my favorite trade target, just because I feel like he’ll be cheaper. Maybe I’m wrong though, as he’s under team control for longer. I dunno, I like both of them at pitchers, I just really would like to give our farm a chance to actually produce some players.

by wolf9309 on Nov 14, 2011 10:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I would agree with you on that

if we were just down Dice-k or Lackey, but having both them out, and the fact that it goes Wilson, Jackson, Buherle, and if posted Darvish, the quality of pitcher drops off considerably. As much as I like Oswalt, his back issue scares me. I think two fill the rotation Ben will have to make a trade, and go through FA.

by aubatron2011 on Nov 14, 2011 10:56 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah I suppose that there could well be a decent chance of that

I guess just in my head, I’m assuming that the 5th starter role is gonna be filled with some free agent like Capuano or Chen who can start, or be relegated to the pen if he sucks and someone like Doubront is doing well. Or Bedard, depending on what he’s looking for. Certainly, adding someone like Danks instead would improve that, depending on the prospect cost.

by wolf9309 on Nov 14, 2011 11:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I can see either way happening.

But it seems like when the Sox try the low risk high reward guys they fail, unlike th MFY, and the pitching prospects they have called up haven’t been great lately. Part of that was trading away some pitching, but when the Sox have the success of having Lester, Buchholz, even though he’s not with the Sox anymore Masterson and most recently Bard, you would think they would have been able to develop better pitching.

by aubatron2011 on Nov 15, 2011 12:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Pretty much this.

I'm a 7 WAR player in bed.
DFA Rev Halofan, The New York Yankees, The Tampa Bay Blue Seats, Carl Crawford, John Lackey, Darnell McDonald, Dave Magadan, Tim Bogar, Buck Showalter, Dan Johnson, Hawk Harrelson, Jonah Keri, Murray Chass, Mark Sanchez, Micheal Vick, Jared Allen, Jerry Jones, Al Davis, Rex Ryan, Rob Ryan, Trent Dilfer, Heath Evans, Cris Carter, Vuvuzelas, The Chicken Dance, Lady Gaga, Justin Bieber, Stephanie Meyer, and the entire fucking city of Philadelphia.

by TheLoneDavid on Nov 14, 2011 8:53 PM EST up reply actions  

right, because

suicide is the appropriate action to take when your favorite sports team makes a move you don’t like.

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by BigBenSportsGuy on Nov 15, 2011 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

well, everyone get used to it

based on what Cherington is saying now, sounds like Sveum has the job.

by wolf9309 on Nov 14, 2011 9:30 PM EST reply actions  

Ugh.

I'm a 7 WAR player in bed.
DFA Rev Halofan, The New York Yankees, The Tampa Bay Blue Seats, Carl Crawford, John Lackey, Darnell McDonald, Dave Magadan, Tim Bogar, Buck Showalter, Dan Johnson, Hawk Harrelson, Jonah Keri, Murray Chass, Mark Sanchez, Micheal Vick, Jared Allen, Jerry Jones, Al Davis, Rex Ryan, Rob Ryan, Trent Dilfer, Heath Evans, Cris Carter, Vuvuzelas, The Chicken Dance, Lady Gaga, Justin Bieber, Stephanie Meyer, and the entire fucking city of Philadelphia.

by TheLoneDavid on Nov 14, 2011 11:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey now

After you (rightfully) taking me to task about Pena, I expected more patience from you with Sveum :-)

by Marc Normandin on Nov 15, 2011 9:31 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm sorry

but this is possibly the most uninspiring managerial hiring that’s happened since I’ve been following any of my sports teams. I like this move less than any of the Matt Millen head coach hirings. I almost like this move less than the Crawford signing. My only hope is that we’re Grady Little-ing him and only hiring him until someone better comes along.

I'm a 7 WAR player in bed.
DFA Rev Halofan, The New York Yankees, The Tampa Bay Blue Seats, Carl Crawford, John Lackey, Darnell McDonald, Dave Magadan, Tim Bogar, Buck Showalter, Dan Johnson, Hawk Harrelson, Jonah Keri, Murray Chass, Mark Sanchez, Micheal Vick, Jared Allen, Jerry Jones, Al Davis, Rex Ryan, Rob Ryan, Trent Dilfer, Heath Evans, Cris Carter, Vuvuzelas, The Chicken Dance, Lady Gaga, Justin Bieber, Stephanie Meyer, and the entire fucking city of Philadelphia.

by TheLoneDavid on Nov 15, 2011 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

In other Sox news.

DeMarlo Hale had a phone interview with Jed Hoyer for the Cubs Managerial positon. Hope he gets a managerial position, he deserves it.

by aubatron2011 on Nov 15, 2011 12:26 AM EST reply actions  

Am I the only one who thinks that Dave Sveum

looks like some sort of hybrid of Moby and former New Orleans mayor Ray Nagin?

Galactus does as he pleases. Because Galactus is drunk.

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by Bloggy on Nov 15, 2011 11:48 AM EST reply actions  

Nagin:

Moby:

Galactus does as he pleases. Because Galactus is drunk.

@#$%ing Twit: @blogtard
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by Bloggy on Nov 15, 2011 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

I have absolutely no problem with this

I didn’t sit in on the 9 hour interview session he had with Ben and Larry, I can only go off what little we know about his style. He seems perfectly capable of managing a team. Not really sure why some people are either really excited or really upset. He’s relatively young, had a few different coaching jobs around the game, etc. There are no red flags there to me.

by South Coast Ghost on Nov 15, 2011 1:29 PM EST reply actions  

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