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These Are YOUR 2012 Boston Not Sox

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Have you ever wondered, maybe after several pops of your favorite hallucinogenic substance, why don't the Red Sox just go out and get every good player on the free agent market copper shark fribble-flabble? Then, the next morning, you sober up and think, wow, that was a really stupid idea.

The thing is though, they really could do it. There's nothing stopping them. Baseball doesn't have a salary cap, so there is no maximum amount they can spend. The luxury tax hits teams who spend above a certain threshold, but a tax on what MLB considers an excessive payroll is different from a rule preventing at team from spending more than X number of dollars. What's more, John Henry is made of money. In his spare time he plays chicken with two remote control yachts and never chickens out. He's known to buy priceless pieces of art just to see how they smell when on fire.

So what if John Henry, Tom Werner, and Larry Lucchino decided to really blow up baseball's salary structure and buy up the very best players available?

I know I've framed this as a joke, and it totally is. But it's also a Friday morning, so humor me. I'm curious about two things. 1) How could the Red Sox integrate the best players on the market into their existing team, and 2) How much would this ridiculous venture cost?

This year's free agent market isn't deep, but it is top heavy with high end talent. Two first baseman in Albert Pujols and Prince Fielder, and shortstop Jose Reyes are the headliners. The pitching depth is less, but C.J. Wilson, Edwin Jackson and Yu Darvish aren't exactly a puppy in a meat grinder. Well that just came out all wrong. In any case, those are the guys we'll focus on. Supposing the Red Sox decided to sign them all at roughly going rates, what would it take?

Here's my guess.

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PLAYER YEARS TOTAL DOLLARS AAV
Pujols 10 $260,000,000 $26,000,000
Fielder 7 $133,000,000 $19,000,000
Reyes 5 $100,000,000 $20,000,000
Darvish 6 $60,000,000 $10,000,000
Wilson 5 $90,000,000 $18,000,000
TOTAL - $643,000,000 $93,000,000

 

I'm sure the numbers can be quibbled with, but these are just guesses. If anything, I've tried to be on the high side. According to Cot's, the Red Sox total current payroll obligations for 2012 equal $131 million. That figure doesn't include any arbitration awards, so players like Matt Albers, Jarrod Saltalamaccia, and Daniel Bard are not included. Neither is Jacoby Ellsbury. So add another $15 million on for the arbitration eligibles and that brings you $146 million.

Throw $93 million on top of the current payroll and the number becomes $239 million. A $239 million payroll. Crazy, huh? Well, yes, completely crazy. But last season the Yankees payroll was $207 million, or just 13% less. The year before, 2010, the Yankees spent $213 million or just 11% less. This year, before any arbitration or free agent signings, the Yankees are at $173 million.

Yes, I'm trying to make it sound like peanuts, and yes, I know, that 13% sounds small but is actually $29 million, so it isn't. Still though, sometime in the relatively near future there will be a baseball team with a $240 million payroll. It won't be the Boston Red Sox next season, but it will happen, and it will probably happen sooner than we might think.

The sillier of the above-the-jump two questions was how would the Red Sox possibly fit all these guys onto their team? Reyes obviously slots in easily at his natural shortstop position. Wilson and Darvish are just what the doctor ordered* to fill out the five man rotation with Beckett, Lester, and Buchholz. 

*Are doctors particularly skilled at ordering things?

That leaves both Fielder and Pujols. The Red Sox already have Adrian Gonzalez so first base is taken. Gonzalez is no faster than my three year old with a load in his pants and face to face with a cookie, so he can't move off the position. The temptation is to move Fielder because, even though he's the largest of the three in terms of straight girth, he's also the youngest.

We solve the crunch by sending Fielder to train during the off season with Lance Berkman and put him in left field. It's either that or we send Fielder to boot camp with Bartolo Colon and then turn his corpulent ass into an actual backstop. We'll try left and if that doesn't work, well, there's still six years left on the deal to change course. We then have to move Carl Crawford and his noodle arm to right field. Maybe we help Crawford out and glue a catapult onto his arm. I mean, it can't hurt his hitting, AMIRIGHT??

For $239 million, here's your Not Sox lineup:

1. Jacoby Ellsbury, CF
2. Dustin Pedroia, 2b
3. Adrian Gonzalez, 1B
4. Albert Pujols, DH
5. Prince Fielder, LF
6. Kevin Youkilis, 3b
7. Jose Reyes, SS
8. Carl Crawford, RF
9. Jarrod Saltalamacchia

Hell of a team, huh? So, OTM, think you'll read anything stupider today? For your sake, I sure hope not.

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Would it be these are your 2012 Boston Red Sox?

Collective noun needs plural verb from and prounoun agreement? Grammatical constructions using “Sox” always confuse me. Set the record straight!

by Sologub on Nov 11, 2011 8:11 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

If you're asking a gramatical question

… you’re better off asking someone who has any idea of grammar. If you’ve been reading my stuff here at OTM you probably know I have the grammatical understanding of a baboon. Though, in fairness, I might be able beat one in a spelling bee. If, you know, the first few words weren’t too hard.

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by Matthew Kory on Nov 11, 2011 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

heh.

Is a singular Red Sox player a “Red Sock” or still a “Red sox”?

by Sologub on Nov 11, 2011 1:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Since it’s a proper name, you don’t change it. So ‘Red Sox’ is correct. I think.

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by Matthew Kory on Nov 11, 2011 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

A singular Red Sox player is "a Red Sox player".

Or, “a player for the Red Sox”.

Keep it simple. Don’t try to be too clever. You will be fine.

Now excuse me while I drive this boat into the side of Henry’s yacht …

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by mmmmm on Nov 11, 2011 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I would change the line up

1. Albert Pujols, DH
2. Prince Fielder, LF
3. Adrian Gonzalez, 1B
4. Kevin Youkilis, 3b
5. Dustin Pedroia, 2b
6. Jacoby Ellsbury, CF
7. Jose Reyes, SS
8. Carl Crawford, RF
9. Jarrod Saltalamacchia

Once the other team is done crying from being pounded into submission, we’d just run on them like crazy. Then Salty would bat.

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by brogshan on Nov 11, 2011 8:33 AM EST reply actions  

I like it.

I wouldn’t hit Fielder second. I mean, I don’t think he’s a good enough bunter and this team is going to be doing a LOT of bunting.

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by Matthew Kory on Nov 11, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Jose Reyes

Because we need very talented players that are hurt constantly and cost too much

by Silverlock on Nov 11, 2011 8:52 AM EST reply actions  

Problem is revenue, though

The Yankees spent over $200 million in 2011 because they made $427 million in 2010, and making half-a-billion a year makes $200 million easy. The Red Sox made $272 million in 2010, so if they spend over $200 million, they are cutting things a lot closer, especially once you factor in that the payroll isn’t straight $200 million plus whatever, it’s $200-plus and then the luxury tax penalty, which is basically the cost of another Kevin Youkilis, on top of that. (2011 figures aren’t out yet, hence the time travel.)

Also, a team will eventually have a $240 million, non-Yankee division, if revenues and the luxury tax allow it (and we don’t know how the CBA is going to alter luxury tax raises, if at all, in the new CBA).

by Marc Normandin on Nov 11, 2011 9:28 AM EST reply actions  

Revenue is only the most glaring of the thousand things I ignored.

But I agree. The money needs to come in before it can come out.

The one thing I’d say though is we don’t really know how much is coming in. As far as I’m aware, baseball teams haven’t opened their books. I’m sure there are some good guesses out there but the real numbers aren’t known.

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by Matthew Kory on Nov 11, 2011 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Forbes is likely a better estimate than what the teams would say

They have no stake in this thing except accuracy, whereas teams have to worry about taxes, or MLB breathing down their necks for not spending enough, a la the Marlins of the past.

by Marc Normandin on Nov 11, 2011 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Absolutely so.

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by Matthew Kory on Nov 11, 2011 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I know!

No, it won’t happen. But it’s sure fun to look at. My favorite was signing Reyes to a $100+ million contract and then hitting him seventh. [pause for it to sink in…]

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by Matthew Kory on Nov 11, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Didn't we sign a player last year to a 100 million contract

bat, him eighth, and later need to platoon him against left handers?

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by TheLoneDavid on Nov 11, 2011 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes. Yes we did.

(That was kinda my point.)

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by Matthew Kory on Nov 11, 2011 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

This is why Matt sticks to poop jokes.

His normal humor is too subtle for us to comprehend.

by Sologub on Nov 11, 2011 1:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

That’s right. Your choices are the light but hilarious touch of a feather or getting a bucket of moose turds dumped on your head. Choose wisely, my friends.

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by Matthew Kory on Nov 11, 2011 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I think even our pitchers in September.

Could have won a few games with that lineup. lol.

by aubatron2011 on Nov 11, 2011 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

It's a thing to behold, isn't it?

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by Matthew Kory on Nov 11, 2011 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Being sentimental, and since money is no object here, I say we keep the Large Father in the mix

He can DH, we send Pujols to the same school with Prince and we stick him in RF – he’s got a better arm than Carl anyway.

So now the lineup looks like:

1) Papi DH
2) Pujols RF
3) Gonzalez 1B
4) Fielder LF
5) Youkilis 3B
6) Pedroia 2B
7) Ellsbury CF
8) Reyes SS
9) Salty C

Crawford becomes the $142M ‘speed guy off the bench’ who pinch runs in the late innings of close games.

Not that you will ever see such happen with THAT lineup!

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by mmmmm on Nov 11, 2011 1:54 PM EST reply actions  

Note also - the lack of speed at the top is irrelevant because SOMEbody in the first 6 is going to go deep every 3 times through the order.

Seriously, those top-6 guys probably average out to a HR per 20ish ABs. So that’s almost a HR every three times through. And given that their OBP will generate at least ~6 PAs per game that’s almost a lock guarantee of a couple of HRs per game (not even counting spots 6-9!).

Another way to look at is that 30 times Papi would jog casually around the bases due to his own power. Another 40 times or so he’d do it because of Pujols behind him. Then another 30ish times he’d do it because of Fielder, and so on, … heh heh.

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by mmmmm on Nov 11, 2011 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Per chance to dream ...

But CC brings up an awake question. With the depth of the existing lineup in which even #6 batter often gets 5AB’s, and looking for a major rebound from Crawford, what would be the real downside of increasing his comfort level by hitting him second, as in Ells, CC, PD, Gonzo, Youk, Papi. None of Gonzo, Youk, Papi will lose AB’s, certainly not meaningful ones. PD hits anywhere and is both beast and grinder. Having Ells, CC on base increases odds of early runs and decreases odds of DPs. I know … best hitter 3rd. But I wonder if with this stacked lineup, and PD’s ability to wear down pitchers even as Ells/CC mess with their heads, if it really matters much. Having a 3rd speedy table setter in front of Gonzo and Youk seems a good use of skill sets. Comments?

by GerryT on Nov 11, 2011 2:15 PM EST reply actions  

I’m not sure how you can say that lost at-bats from Big Papi won’t be meaningful. There’s no way to know which ABs will be meaningful and which won’t.

Also, if that was the Red Sox lineup, who gives a crap about Crawford’s comfort level?

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by Matthew Kory on Nov 11, 2011 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Who gives a crap about his comfort level now?

We played him in his comfort position and he sucked. We played him down in the lineup so there wouldn’t be any pressure and he sucked, we sat him against left handed pitching and he sucked from the bench.

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by TheLoneDavid on Nov 11, 2011 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

You really think he sucked because he was uncomfortable batting seventh?

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by Matthew Kory on Nov 11, 2011 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Did you read what I said?

I think he sucked because he flat out sucked this year. I have no confidence in him going forward, and I think this was the biggest mistake the Sox management has made since re-signing Mike Lowell after 2007.

I'm a 7 WAR player in bed.
DFA Rev Halofan, The New York Yankees, The Tampa Bay Blue Seats, Carl Crawford, John Lackey, Darnell McDonald, Dave Magadan, Tim Bogar, Buck Showalter, Dan Johnson, Hawk Harrelson, Jonah Keri, Murray Chass, Mark Sanchez, Micheal Vick, Jared Allen, Jerry Jones, Al Davis, Rex Ryan, Rob Ryan, Trent Dilfer, Heath Evans, Cris Carter, Vuvuzelas, The Chicken Dance, Lady Gaga, Justin Bieber, Stephanie Meyer, and the entire fucking city of Philadelphia.

by TheLoneDavid on Nov 12, 2011 3:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Sorry

Somehow I managed to miss your point there.

I wasn’t a huge fan of the signing either, but I’m optimistic he can be a good player going forward. No chance he’ll ever be worth the money he’ll be paid over the life of the deal — that ship has sailed and sunk — but there’s nothing they can do about the deal now. It exists and will for the next six years. Hopefully the player can at least, you know, help the team win going forward. I think he’ll be a positive force starting next year.

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by Matthew Kory on Nov 12, 2011 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

If he's not, they'll be burning Theo in effigy.

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DFA Rev Halofan, The New York Yankees, The Tampa Bay Blue Seats, Carl Crawford, John Lackey, Darnell McDonald, Dave Magadan, Tim Bogar, Buck Showalter, Dan Johnson, Hawk Harrelson, Jonah Keri, Murray Chass, Mark Sanchez, Micheal Vick, Jared Allen, Jerry Jones, Al Davis, Rex Ryan, Rob Ryan, Trent Dilfer, Heath Evans, Cris Carter, Vuvuzelas, The Chicken Dance, Lady Gaga, Justin Bieber, Stephanie Meyer, and the entire fucking city of Philadelphia.

by TheLoneDavid on Nov 13, 2011 1:26 AM EST up reply actions  

That's some outfield

in left you get a hit unless it goes right to the big man. In right, guys are free to run on that weak arm of Crawford’s. He might be able to run it in faster.

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by cavman on Nov 11, 2011 2:47 PM EST reply actions  

The outfield defense wouldn’t much to speak about, but the pitching staff should be able to rack up enough Ks to keep the other team’s BA down.

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by Matthew Kory on Nov 11, 2011 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup

Ben has a post up about it.

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by Matthew Kory on Nov 11, 2011 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

YES

I am SO HAPPY that Papelbon signed with Philly. The AL east batters had his number. He became less effective every passing year. He may do better in the NL where they do not know his pitches YET. Sox should look to the NL for a closer, maybe SD. I like the off season so far. GOOD- BY PAPELBON!!

by PVS53 on Nov 11, 2011 6:05 PM EST reply actions  

um

perhaps you did not watch this year. That would explain why you think the AL East had him figured out.

by wolf9309 on Nov 11, 2011 6:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Let's play with this...

Sticking with the lineup we’re being “given”, and that we can convince Fielder to, well, field…

1. Jacoby Ellsbury, CF
2. Adrian Gonzalez, 1B
3. Albert Pujols, 3B
4. Prince Fielder, LF
5. Kevin Youkilis / Papi DH
6. Dustin Pedroia, 2b
7. Jose Reyes, SS
8. Carl Crawford, RF
9. Jarrod Saltalamacchia C

1. Pujols has proven that he makes a servicable 3B, covering a game there for the Cards while they had severe 3B issues, and Pujols was under “injury watch”. Also, Pujols has an arm, this year’s playoffs still proved that, remember that fielder’s choice he engaged in picking that guy off second? Let’s take advantage of that. While I have him listed as our primary 3B, and Youk as DH (so that we save Youk from the injury bug), they can trade jobs (Youk on 3B and Pujols as DH) occasionally, and we can keep Papi around for pinch hitting / giving our DHs a day off here and there.

2. Let’s innovate some. Let’s turn the 6 slot into a “second leadoff”, being that odds are the top 5 will usually leave the bases empty. Pedey’s a legitimate power threat, but he can also fill a “leadoff” position very well. Once Pedey’s on, that’ll give our “speedsters” in Crawford and Reyes a chance to leg out a hit. As long as one of the speedsters get on, even if the other speedster and Salty whiff, we’ve got 2 outs 2 on base for Ellsbury, meaning RBI or loaded bases for A-Gon.

3. Only problem will be depth, how do you replace one of these guys without making Papi a utility guy or signing Beltre as a bench guy.

Boy, this is sure looking like a video game now… :P

by Silver Paladin on Nov 12, 2011 12:23 AM EST reply actions  

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