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A Day Of Potential Schadenfreude: Rays, Yankees Face Elimination

Alright, folks, we've had a good few days to recover from the terrible events of last Wednesday. The Rays won, we lost, and Terry Francona is gone for different pastures. The long, cold offseason is underway for us.

For some reason, however, the playoffs have started up even without our involvement, and for the two A.L. East teams that kept the Sox out of the playoffs (though, really, the Sox did most of that job themselves), that means an opportunity for glory, and a chance to push the Sox down into an even deeper, sadder hole.

The good news is that both of these teams--I speak, of course, of the Rays and Yankees--will face elimination today, having each dropped Games 2 and 3 of their series.

First up, Tampa Bay and Texas, where Jeremy Hellickson will take on Matt Harrison. I'm happy to say that Texas already seems to be up 1-0. It's good to see Ian Kinsler doesn't just kill us.


Jeremy Hellickson

#58 / Pitcher / Tampa Bay Rays

6-1

185

R

R

Apr 08, 1987

W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2011 - Jeremy Hellickson 13-10 29 29 2 1 0 0 189.0 146 64 62 21 72 117 2.95 1.15

A strong Rookie of the Year candidate--if only for the fact that such awards always ignore peripherals--Mr. Hellickson held Texas to just two runs in his only six innings against Texas this year, but allowed four walks in the process. Between the power of the Rangers and the fly ball tendencies of Hellickson, he can't be giving up that many free passes if he expects to escape with another quality start.


Matt Harrison

#54 / Pitcher / Texas Rangers

6-4

240

L

L

Sep 16, 1985

W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2011 - Matt Harrison 14-9 31 30 0 0 0 0 185.2 180 79 70 13 57 126 3.39 1.28

Harrison is just another Texas breakout starter in the same vein as C.J. Wilson. Does anyone know who invented that stem cell procedure that fixed Big Bad Bartolo for a while? I have my suspicions that he's a member of the Rangers' organization.

And if so, can we steal him?

We'll have Detroit and New York later tonight--likely in this same thread, given that the first game is in the middle of a work day. 

Here's to finally having a good baseball day after so very many bad ones.

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by Bloggy on Oct 4, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it's funny

In the three games the rays and rangers have played, the rays have out pitched and outscored the rangers. Yet they are down 2-1 in the series. Kind of shows how crazy baseball can be

by Isaiah85 on Oct 4, 2011 2:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Between him and Napoli

I wonder how they might of helped us out this year if we hadn’t signed Crawford or traded for A-gon. But thats the ingenious of hindsight

by Isaiah85 on Oct 4, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hell, just one or two

I.e. Dump Lackey, trade for Jose Bautista at the end of 2009.

by Sologub on Oct 4, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can see it now

“Deciding to pull the trigger on a move rumored after-the-fact, the Red Sox nab Jose Bautista instead of signing Mike Cameron for two unproductive years. Deprived of the white-shirted man, however, Bautista goes on to be a tremendous flop, and ultimately his added salary steers the Sox away from the trade market, leaving Adrian Gonzalez free to test free agency after 2011.”

Man, this last season really did a number on me.

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by Ben Buchanan on Oct 4, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, if they DO exist, we're about to get very lucky

When the Yankees offer to pay for the full salary of Lackey in exchange for us taking Banuelos and Betances off of their hands.

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by Ben Buchanan on Oct 4, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, cool. A game thread.

I remember these.

"What's so special about Lou Gehrig? Shouldn't EVERY Yankee have a disease named after him?"
"If your happiness depends on Boston winning or losing, you have to get a life." Manny Somebody-or-other

by Tessie's Dad on Oct 4, 2011 2:42 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Dammit.

My timing sucks.

"What's so special about Lou Gehrig? Shouldn't EVERY Yankee have a disease named after him?"
"If your happiness depends on Boston winning or losing, you have to get a life." Manny Somebody-or-other

by Tessie's Dad on Oct 4, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

You've ruined

Everything

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by Ben Buchanan on Oct 4, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Everything?

I take no credit/responsibility for Sean O.

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by Tessie's Dad on Oct 4, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

rec'd

Let's trade Reddick for Heyward!
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by QW on Oct 4, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone watch Verlander pitch lastnight?

He was still throwing 101mph heat in the 8th inning, the man is a beast.

by Isaiah85 on Oct 4, 2011 2:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Stemroids!

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by Ben Buchanan on Oct 4, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I watched Valverde

missed Verlander

`:-(

Let's trade Reddick for Heyward!
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by QW on Oct 4, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Watched the whole game with the BYB crew

they’re pretty cool guys.

I'm a 7 WAR player in bed.
DFA Rev Halofan, The New York Yankees, The Tampa Bay Blue Seats, Carl Crawford, John Lackey, Darnell McDonald, Curt Young, Dave Magadan, Tim Bogar, Buck Showalter, Dan Johnson, Hawk Harrelson, Jonah Keri, Murray Chass, Mark Sanchez, Micheal Vick, Jared Allen, Jerry Jones, Al Davis, Rex Ryan, Rob Ryan, Trent Dilfer, Heath Evans, Cris Carter, Vuvuzelas, The Chicken Dance, Lady Gaga, Justin Bieber, Stephanie Meyer, and the entire fucking city of Philadelphia.

by TheLoneDavid on Oct 4, 2011 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fuck the Rays

Seriously. and Fuck Florida while we’re at it.

Andrew Friedman deserves better.

by Sean O on Oct 4, 2011 2:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Rec'd

Quite the effort! Wondered where you went off to.

by Sean O on Oct 4, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

and thats how you should build a baseball team

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by gizmosandy on Oct 4, 2011 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

What denomination

worships with cowbells?

"If your happiness depends on Boston winning or losing, you have to get a life." Manny Somebody-or-other

by Tessie's Dad on Oct 4, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Last thing we need

right now is more cowbells.

"If your happiness depends on Boston winning or losing, you have to get a life." Manny Somebody-or-other

by Tessie's Dad on Oct 4, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

So, what porn .gif should we blast at DRB

if they lose today?

(I am not being serious)

by Sean O on Oct 4, 2011 2:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Given that 83% of Rays fans...

… are employed as phone sex operators out of a trailer somewhere in Florida, I don’t think porn has any effect on them.

Jonah Keri will be pissed, though.

"Playoffs?!? Don't talk about playoffs! Are you kidding me? I just hope we can win a game!"

- Jim Mora, seeing through space and time to describe the 2011 Boston Red Sox

by nuthinboutnuthin on Oct 4, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Although...

… they might be confused by pictures of genitalia without horrible diseases.

"Playoffs?!? Don't talk about playoffs! Are you kidding me? I just hope we can win a game!"

- Jim Mora, seeing through space and time to describe the 2011 Boston Red Sox

by nuthinboutnuthin on Oct 4, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

and/or

with a “happy ending.”

"If your happiness depends on Boston winning or losing, you have to get a life." Manny Somebody-or-other

by Tessie's Dad on Oct 4, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

So I was wondering

would there be so many Viagra and Cialis ads during the postseason games if Tampa hadn’t made it in?

"If your happiness depends on Boston winning or losing, you have to get a life." Manny Somebody-or-other

by Tessie's Dad on Oct 4, 2011 2:54 PM EDT reply actions  

if we've learned anything about Tampa fans

they have extreme difficulty in getting it up.

by Sean O on Oct 4, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Judging by what they post and when

some of the DRB guys have serious psycho-sexual dysfunctions.

"If your happiness depends on Boston winning or losing, you have to get a life." Manny Somebody-or-other

by Tessie's Dad on Oct 4, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

very true

I’m just angry. Totally different.

by Sean O on Oct 4, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure, Sean.

Sure.

"If your happiness depends on Boston winning or losing, you have to get a life." Manny Somebody-or-other

by Tessie's Dad on Oct 4, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re-sign that man!

Oh, wait.

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by Ben Buchanan on Oct 4, 2011 3:08 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

So, a question

Following our Wednesday disaster, I floated the idea of Tabula Rasa for this team, if that were somehow a possibility.

With waiver wire and FA acquisitions, would we win 81? Would we suck? Do we have any idea?

by Sean O on Oct 4, 2011 3:12 PM EDT reply actions  

In which I shall examine pros and cons of a Tabula Rasa with regards to the Boston Red Sox

Pros: Elimination of bloated contracts, reformed clubhouse culture, a chance to watch the young guns make a name for themselves, elimination of fairweather fans and 2004/2007 bandwagon jumpers, reformed Front Office with new methodology

Cons: Lack of contention, loss of certain heroes from the 2004/2007 seasons, pain of watching young guns fail in the big leagues repeatedly.

I think if we drastically lower the payroll (below $75 million) but hold onto the good core players like Pedroia, Ellsbury, and Lester, we can have good veteran leadership for our young guys when they come up to the majors. As our younger guys come up we can start to raise the payroll by signing them to extensions and bringing in the very occasional Beltre/Gonzo/Vmart type player. Don’t spend big money on pitching, don’t spend big money on speedy guys, $80 million is our effective soft contract cap, no deals over 100 million.

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by TheLoneDavid on Oct 4, 2011 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Guess what just showed up at my door.

The giant freakin’ flat screen I was going to watch the World Series on.

"If your happiness depends on Boston winning or losing, you have to get a life." Manny Somebody-or-other

by Tessie's Dad on Oct 4, 2011 3:18 PM EDT reply actions  

So, almost the entire upper deck is closed off

the corners are almost completely empty. Therefore maybe 50% of the actual stadium capacity is filled.

This team needs to move.

by Sean O on Oct 4, 2011 3:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Nah

The Upper Deck is about 1/3 tarped off. I am doing this from memory, but I think capacity at the Trop is about 35K with the Tarp, and 43 without it. There were about 32K there today – the 2:00 PM start killed them. Last night was sold out – as was the Bucs game.

by flasoxfan on Oct 4, 2011 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Last night was not sold out

It was at 32k, the meager amount the Rays even bother trying to sell. Today there were a little over 28k. Absolutely pathetic. It causes shame on the sport every time the Rays are in contention.

by Sean O on Oct 5, 2011 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

According to the Press here

Monday was a sell-out (I didn’t go – I was at the Bucs game)

I thought there were more people than that 28K yesterday (I was there)

What this shows in the end is that the Rays cannot sellout unless they are playing the Sox or the Yankees (and will have thousands of those fans at the game as a result).

It is pathetic.

by flasoxfan on Oct 5, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Monday was a sellout

only because they tarp off anywhere from 9,000-13,000 seats. And given yesterday’s attendance, I doubt they could have reached an actual sellout if they had tried.

by Sean O on Oct 5, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Remember when we used to have prospects who could contribute?

"Playoffs?!? Don't talk about playoffs! Are you kidding me? I just hope we can win a game!"

- Jim Mora, seeing through space and time to describe the 2011 Boston Red Sox

by nuthinboutnuthin on Oct 4, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

They are contributing

Their name is Adrian Gonzalez.

"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.

by Rogue Nine on Oct 4, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Since 2007, when Ells, Pedey and Buchholz came up

We’ve received a contribution from Bard, and that’s it, right? Obviously good to get Gonzo using our guys, but we haven’t received jack otherwise.

by Sean O on Oct 4, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, wait just a minute!

They may have Matt Moore, but we have David Mailman.

Oh. Wait… Shit.

"Playoffs?!? Don't talk about playoffs! Are you kidding me? I just hope we can win a game!"

- Jim Mora, seeing through space and time to describe the 2011 Boston Red Sox

by nuthinboutnuthin on Oct 4, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

And Seth Schwindenhammer

who will forever be my favorite prospect ever, even though he’s no good.

by wolf9309 on Oct 4, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's the next Wily Mo Pena

He will either hit it to freaking Mars, or striking out swinging.

"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.

by Rogue Nine on Oct 4, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lowrie, Reddick, Masterson

No great contributions but some. We shipped away a few more for VMart and Bay.

Next wave begins at the end of next year.

"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.

by Rogue Nine on Oct 4, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

and Westy...

… who might have been competing with Reddick for at-bats after call-ups this year

"Playoffs?!? Don't talk about playoffs! Are you kidding me? I just hope we can win a game!"

- Jim Mora, seeing through space and time to describe the 2011 Boston Red Sox

by nuthinboutnuthin on Oct 4, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

but hasn't contributed at all, whatever the reasons be

he also might’ve flopped by now, if he were playing

by wolf9309 on Oct 4, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, yes...

… but this is me trying to pretend that the Sox are just picking names out of a hat after the first three rounds.

"Playoffs?!? Don't talk about playoffs! Are you kidding me? I just hope we can win a game!"

- Jim Mora, seeing through space and time to describe the 2011 Boston Red Sox

by nuthinboutnuthin on Oct 4, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

^ aren't

I wouldn’t need to do much work to pretend that they are picking names out of a hat. And, unfortunately, not Evan Longoria’s hat either.

"Playoffs?!? Don't talk about playoffs! Are you kidding me? I just hope we can win a game!"

- Jim Mora, seeing through space and time to describe the 2011 Boston Red Sox

by nuthinboutnuthin on Oct 4, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

There would be no competition.

"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.

by Rogue Nine on Oct 4, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Average high school baseball coach?

"Playoffs?!? Don't talk about playoffs! Are you kidding me? I just hope we can win a game!"

- Jim Mora, seeing through space and time to describe the 2011 Boston Red Sox

by nuthinboutnuthin on Oct 4, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I still think he can be.

I think he has a JD Drew lite sort of upside. Swap a lot of on-base for a little more power, defense roughly a wash.

"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.

by Rogue Nine on Oct 4, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kalish was decent last year

and Reddick was pretty good this year.

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DFA Rev Halofan, The New York Yankees, The Tampa Bay Blue Seats, Carl Crawford, John Lackey, Darnell McDonald, Curt Young, Dave Magadan, Tim Bogar, Buck Showalter, Dan Johnson, Hawk Harrelson, Jonah Keri, Murray Chass, Mark Sanchez, Micheal Vick, Jared Allen, Jerry Jones, Al Davis, Rex Ryan, Rob Ryan, Trent Dilfer, Heath Evans, Cris Carter, Vuvuzelas, The Chicken Dance, Lady Gaga, Justin Bieber, Stephanie Meyer, and the entire fucking city of Philadelphia.

by TheLoneDavid on Oct 4, 2011 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Indeed.

"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.

by Rogue Nine on Oct 4, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love that man

"Playoffs?!? Don't talk about playoffs! Are you kidding me? I just hope we can win a game!"

- Jim Mora, seeing through space and time to describe the 2011 Boston Red Sox

by nuthinboutnuthin on Oct 4, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I do so wish we'd kept him.

"If your happiness depends on Boston winning or losing, you have to get a life." Manny Somebody-or-other

by Tessie's Dad on Oct 4, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Given that Youk is looking rather undependable, yes.

With the full benefit of hindsight, it might have been better to trade Youkilis, sign Beltre, and trade for Gonzalez. Spending money on Beltre, we probably wouldn’t have gotten Crawford, and maybe could’ve gotten an outfield stopgap or even a legit player if, for example, we could’ve gotten Rasmus from St. Louis for Youk.

by Sologub on Oct 4, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

of course, for all the love he gets,

Rasmus had about the same offensive 2011 as Crawford did, albeit cheaper.

by wolf9309 on Oct 4, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah it's all potential at this point

Though at the time, of course, Rasmus was coveted. Even Justin Upton was rumored to be available.

by Sologub on Oct 4, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah but not very well

and that’s not really what we need

by wolf9309 on Oct 4, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, I would've put him in right.

I’m just talking about a hypothetical situation going into 2011 with the benefit of the knowledge we have now.

Though I would still be thrilled to have Rasmus as our starting RFer. It’s lousy that AA got another great deal for him.

by Sologub on Oct 4, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not getting Crawford wouldn't have been a world ender for me...

"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.

by Rogue Nine on Oct 4, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

It would have been awesome

if we’d “lost” him to the MFY.

"If your happiness depends on Boston winning or losing, you have to get a life." Manny Somebody-or-other

by Tessie's Dad on Oct 4, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Going into this season,

I felt we’d downgraded our defense at both 1B & 3B, without significantly improving the offense. That’s not meant as a knock on Gonzo’s defense; he’s just not quite as good as Youk was at first. It is a knock on Youk’s 3B defense.

"If your happiness depends on Boston winning or losing, you have to get a life." Manny Somebody-or-other

by Tessie's Dad on Oct 4, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Gonzo was as good defensively at 1B as Youk was.

But Beltre is >>>>>>> at 3B.

"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.

by Rogue Nine on Oct 4, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Offensively, it should have worked out to be an upgrade, maybe not big, but some.

The biggest upgrade was supposed to be in LF.

"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.

by Rogue Nine on Oct 4, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I thought the (potential) offensive upgrade

wouldn’t be worth the (inevitable) defensive downgrade.

"If your happiness depends on Boston winning or losing, you have to get a life." Manny Somebody-or-other

by Tessie's Dad on Oct 4, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Certainly so,

but which awful deal would you rather be stuck with, Crawford’s or Beltre’s?

"If your happiness depends on Boston winning or losing, you have to get a life." Manny Somebody-or-other

by Tessie's Dad on Oct 4, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

heh I'm trying to avoid thinking in hindsight

Last year, I would’ve told you that over the life of the contract, Crawford’s would be much, much better.

This year, I’m optimistic he’ll rebound, but definitely we got a big goose egg on the year I thought he’d most live up to it.

by wolf9309 on Oct 4, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

He'll probably win Gold Glove and Silver Slugger honors at third this year.

And would be getting MVP attention if not for missing over 30 games. Gonna have to work awfully hard over the next four years for that deal to end up looking “awful”, particularly if Texas gets back to the World Series.

by Big D Bam Bam on Oct 5, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I give a slight edge to Youk at 1B,

but that can probably be attributed to familiarity with his teammates. Gonzo is great with the glove, of course, but not quite as on top of it as Youk, IMHO.

"If your happiness depends on Boston winning or losing, you have to get a life." Manny Somebody-or-other

by Tessie's Dad on Oct 4, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Starting to think

maybe resigning him and trading Youk last offseason would have been a good plan. Beltre is getting overpaid, though, so that’s not bad consolation.

Let's trade Reddick for Heyward!
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by QW on Oct 4, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Crawford Su--s to you too!

Let's trade Reddick for Heyward!
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by QW on Oct 4, 2011 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

been lurking...3 more outs.

"There's no place like it, and it's ours." - Stephen King on Fenway Park

by 808BostonSportsFan on Oct 4, 2011 5:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Where?

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by Rogue Nine on Oct 4, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Below

Me

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by Bloggy on Oct 4, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's not fair

You bunk with Santa, everyone is below you, geographically speaking.

"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.

by Rogue Nine on Oct 4, 2011 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Going to be a sad exit from the parking lot tonight

Extremely easy since there won’t be any traffic, but sad.

by Sean O on Oct 4, 2011 5:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Now... Let's go Detroit.

"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.

by Rogue Nine on Oct 4, 2011 5:16 PM EDT reply actions  

And STL

"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.

by Rogue Nine on Oct 4, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

And the D-Backs.

Because they’re the underdogs. I think.

by Anthony Emerson on Oct 4, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Phuck Phillies "fans"

"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.

by Rogue Nine on Oct 4, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm rooting for a meteor strike in the 9th inning of the Philly/STL game

that lets the Dbacks and Brewers go to the ALCS

I'm a 7 WAR player in bed.
DFA Rev Halofan, The New York Yankees, The Tampa Bay Blue Seats, Carl Crawford, John Lackey, Darnell McDonald, Curt Young, Dave Magadan, Tim Bogar, Buck Showalter, Dan Johnson, Hawk Harrelson, Jonah Keri, Murray Chass, Mark Sanchez, Micheal Vick, Jared Allen, Jerry Jones, Al Davis, Rex Ryan, Rob Ryan, Trent Dilfer, Heath Evans, Cris Carter, Vuvuzelas, The Chicken Dance, Lady Gaga, Justin Bieber, Stephanie Meyer, and the entire fucking city of Philadelphia.

by TheLoneDavid on Oct 4, 2011 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, go Tigers

and Go Brewers
and Go Phillies

Let's trade Reddick for Heyward!
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by QW on Oct 4, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fuck Philadelphia

I'm a 7 WAR player in bed.
DFA Rev Halofan, The New York Yankees, The Tampa Bay Blue Seats, Carl Crawford, John Lackey, Darnell McDonald, Curt Young, Dave Magadan, Tim Bogar, Buck Showalter, Dan Johnson, Hawk Harrelson, Jonah Keri, Murray Chass, Mark Sanchez, Micheal Vick, Jared Allen, Jerry Jones, Al Davis, Rex Ryan, Rob Ryan, Trent Dilfer, Heath Evans, Cris Carter, Vuvuzelas, The Chicken Dance, Lady Gaga, Justin Bieber, Stephanie Meyer, and the entire fucking city of Philadelphia.

by TheLoneDavid on Oct 4, 2011 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Extra 2%

of Fail.

"Playoffs?!? Don't talk about playoffs! Are you kidding me? I just hope we can win a game!"

- Jim Mora, seeing through space and time to describe the 2011 Boston Red Sox

by nuthinboutnuthin on Oct 4, 2011 5:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand

D-Bag Bay can go fuck themselves.

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by Bloggy on Oct 4, 2011 5:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Blue Seats

Apparently less than 29 thousand at the Trop today.

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by Bloggy on Oct 4, 2011 5:28 PM EDT reply actions  

There a couple of elementary and middle schools near the Trop...

… so the terms of most Rays’ fans probation actually makes attending the games unlawful.

Tampa Bay Rays Championships: Still Zero

"Playoffs?!? Don't talk about playoffs! Are you kidding me? I just hope we can win a game!"

- Jim Mora, seeing through space and time to describe the 2011 Boston Red Sox

by nuthinboutnuthin on Oct 4, 2011 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

good point

Let's trade Reddick for Heyward!
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by QW on Oct 4, 2011 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

My guess was 30

what surprised me was there were empty seats in the outfield. I think the Yankee game last Weds had more fans.

by flasoxfan on Oct 4, 2011 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its gona be Rangers Brewers.

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by Dustin's #1 Fan on Oct 4, 2011 5:44 PM EDT reply actions  

this

And that’s going to be awesome. Way better than Rangers Giants.

Let's trade Reddick for Heyward!
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by QW on Oct 4, 2011 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm guessing Brewers

but either way. I’d be psyched- those are definitely the two I want to see there

by wolf9309 on Oct 4, 2011 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

You mean Tigers/Brewers

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by TheLoneDavid on Oct 4, 2011 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

As a matter of fact

I don’t.

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by Dustin's #1 Fan on Oct 4, 2011 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, you should.

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by TheLoneDavid on Oct 4, 2011 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

And it was all for nothing !!

way to go Rays, you played 4 games more than we did.

You have nothing to show for it.

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by gizmosandy on Oct 4, 2011 7:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Wonderful

The team that snuck into the playoffs using the spot that should have been ours (!!!!!!) gets beat almost singlehandedly by the guy we let walk in free agency. Obviously I can’t really complain about losing Beltre because we got Gonzo, I just love the irony.

by JordanS on Oct 4, 2011 7:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey Ben,

Since this is potentially the last game thread we’ll have this year, are there going to be period open threads during the offseason?

by Sean O on Oct 4, 2011 7:47 PM EDT reply actions  

You mean the

“Boston has traded Lackey for a hamburger” open thread? I like that idea a lot in all seriousness.

by dja9783 on Oct 4, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

New York would block that trade

CC wants the hamburger.

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by TheLoneDavid on Oct 4, 2011 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

There will be a few more game threads as the playoffs go on.

And we can have open threads, but they could just be fanposts.

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by Ben Buchanan on Oct 4, 2011 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Enshrine me Ben

Fantasy baseball, and post my poll!!

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by gizmosandy on Oct 4, 2011 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

And give us an answer in my Gamethread fanpost.

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by TheLoneDavid on Oct 4, 2011 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Have you taken a look at this?

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JVSM

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by Dustin's #1 Fan on Oct 4, 2011 7:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Gah where is teh link??

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/10/cubs-ask-permission-to-speak-with-epstein-.html

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by Dustin's #1 Fan on Oct 4, 2011 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope they dont let him leave,

that would be a huge overreaction to this collapse.

by dja9783 on Oct 4, 2011 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Never underestimate the ability of Midwestern restaurants to take away the pain of not being in the playoffs

Ah Culver’s, I love your artery-clogging, buttery goodness.

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by TheLoneDavid on Oct 4, 2011 8:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Never made it to Culver's, heard it's good

Miss White Castle. And Potbelly’s. oh GOD do I miss Potbelly’s. And also Steak and Shake.

by Sean O on Oct 4, 2011 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Culver's is better than all those places combined.

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by TheLoneDavid on Oct 4, 2011 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

yup

Shake Shack is a decent ripoff version in New York at least. Just WAY more expensive.

by Sean O on Oct 4, 2011 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey Sologub

the Rays aren’t winning the World Series.

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by TheLoneDavid on Oct 4, 2011 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm glad

I thought they had destiny on their side, but it turned out we just sucked. Which I’m actually happy about – I’d be seriously depressed if the Rays were that much better than we were.

by Sologub on Oct 4, 2011 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

So would I.

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by TheLoneDavid on Oct 4, 2011 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

GO TIGERS!

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by TheLoneDavid on Oct 4, 2011 8:39 PM EDT reply actions  

There go the Rays...

to be honest, I don’t really prefer the Rangers over the Rays.
It’s not the same as rooting for the Tigers over the Yankees. After all, the last three ALCS winners have been the Rays, Yankees, and Rangers. Might as well let the Tigers have a chance.

by RickD on Oct 4, 2011 8:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Fewer than 29,000 showed up to the game today

In a stadium that seats at least 41,000. Fuck the Rays and that entire state.

by Sean O on Oct 4, 2011 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously

Let all those blue seats shed their plastic/stone/steel tears. Whatever they’re made of.

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by Tai on Oct 4, 2011 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is just sad.

They have such a good, young team too. Be nice if more people there actually cared.

by dja9783 on Oct 4, 2011 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

argh come on tigers.

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by 808BostonSportsFan on Oct 4, 2011 9:34 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

I knew there was a reason I liked you.

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by TheLoneDavid on Oct 4, 2011 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

hi

redsox will get Michael Cuddyer but lose draft pick.
redsox will get David Wright by trade and shift Youk to DH
redsox will get Carlos Beltran and not lose draft pick.
redsox will get Yu Dirvish but waste big money. Im japanese but NO thank you.No more Dice-k.
redsox will get Jose Reyes/ Jimmy Rollins but lose draft pick.
redsox will get Corey Hart by trade.
redsox will get Mark Buehrle.
Trade Theo to Cubs for Matt Garza?/ Geovany Soto?
GO Pijols at any cost

which is most likely?

by Taro yamada on Oct 4, 2011 10:58 PM EDT reply actions  

I say Cuddyer or Buehrle

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by Dustin's #1 Fan on Oct 4, 2011 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Buehrle

"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.

by Rogue Nine on Oct 4, 2011 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Buehrle is a solid get who won't cost too much. Good signing, to be sure.

My gut feeling—and it’s negative—is that the Sox will repeat 2010, going crazy to try and make people forget with money, and buy Reyes.

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by Ben Buchanan on Oct 4, 2011 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hopefully if that happens Theo is immediately fired.

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by TheLoneDavid on Oct 5, 2011 3:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

A Day Of Potential Schadenfreude: Rays, Yankees Face Elimination

Some history. At this time last year, ownership was opening their pockets in response to the losses of revenue at NESN. My take is that after signing Gonzo, Theo was encouraged to go for broke. Thus Crawford. I give failing marks to all in Psychology 101, for due diligence in evaluating his adaptability to Boston. Cooler minds could have prevailed.
Now that said, I think Francona is home giggling. Ownership and Theo don’t know half of what Francona knows after his 14 hour days all season long. I believe when they sat down at the table and asked Tito what he would do to earn his option years of $9mil., he threw up his hands and said you don’t have a clue, and I’m not going to explain, it would take to long and then I don’t know if you would understand. Amen, good move Tito!

by Really old Sox fan on Oct 5, 2011 4:51 AM EDT reply actions  

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