Curt Young Re-Signs With Oakland Athletics
One year after leaving the Athletics for the Red Sox, pitching coach Curt Young is on his way back to Oakland according to Jon Morosi.
It became clear that this move was going to happen Thursday, when the Red Sox gave Young permission to speak with his old team. I covered Young's contributions (or lack thereof) for the most part yesterday, so I won't bore you with a repeat.
Obviously the hiring of a new pitching coach will have to wait until after Cherington takes control and a new manager is found. Really, though, at this point it wouldn't be unreasonable for Sox fans to be pretty jaded about the whole thing. Their one consistently good pitcher since 2008 has been Jon Lester, with big-name signings falling apart while project signings have provided nothing but grief.
It is, of course, hard to really determine what's the fault of the pitching coach. Is it possible to save the likes of Matsuzaka and Lackey? Were Papelbon and Beckett's seasons the work of Young and, if so, how do we reconcile that with other players falling apart?
The biggest problem to me is that when we actually do try to assign blame and credit, none of the credit comes from the sorts of surprises that other teams seem to dig up. What happened in New York this season? What is it that Dave Duncan does in St. Louis to turn mediocrities into marvels? The closest we seem to have come is with Rich Hill this season, but then he needed Tommy John surgery.
It would be nice, for once, to have the team's pitching be a pleasant surprise--and not one built completely on an ERA that defies peripherals (I'm looking at you, 2008 Daisuke). It's never going to be the most hyped-up position or signing in an offseason, but if a pitching coach really can do more than just make small changes and help guys get out of slumps, finding the right one could be really quite big for this team.
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by Marisa Ingemi on Oct 21, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Given that the complete collapse in September was in large part due to pitching
I’d say this is warranted.
I don't really have a problem with this
Young never really seemed to make any kind of impression.
Still, kinda amusing how pumped some of us were to get him last offseason, and how the same cycle will begin anew this offseason.
by South Coast Ghost on Oct 21, 2011 3:22 PM EDT reply actions
I was really excited to get him.
But he didn’t work out. Time to get hopeful about someone else.
"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.
From some of the comments made by the pitching staff
He made as little impression on them as he did us.
Sadly his laid-back style of coaching is not what this staff needs.
by South Coast Ghost on Oct 21, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
No surprise
When the Head guy, in this case Francona, most of his staff leaves to. Really the only two coaches who should stay are Magadan, and Tuck. Other than that I think they’ll be gone.
What about Curt Schilling for pitching coach?
With our blessings to punch those who don’t toe the line?
by OzTiger on Oct 21, 2011 4:37 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Please, no.
Let’s just enjoy the bloody sock memories!
Besides, after he basically called Henry a liar the other day, there is probably not much chance in hell he’ll ever work for the Red Sox again.
Nice job, Curt- the guy paid you a retirement present of $8 Million to just rehab and not throw a pitch for a whole year and you insult him. Nice.
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How about V-tek?
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by Bama Sox on Oct 21, 2011 10:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
More to it than calling a game
you have to have knowledge of the mechanics of pitching. ’Tek is a catcher…
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Pedro or bust man
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by TheLoneDavid on Oct 22, 2011 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Why do the A's want him?
We’ve seen him first hand. He’s not the best pitching coach in the world.
by Anthony Emerson on Oct 21, 2011 10:10 PM EDT reply actions
They've already had him
And he worked out well there.
"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.
Actually if you look at the
stats, under Young the pitchers had very similar numbers than under Farrell, the difference the pitchers were scared of Farrell, not so much of Young.
by aubatron2011 on Oct 21, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
They've seen him first hand too.
And it worked out pretty well for them.
by The Name is Dalton on Oct 22, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait what?!
Young was under contract for another year with Boston, but the Red Sox, who are undergoing an offseason shakeup, will pick up “a significant portion” of his salary, according to a team source.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/10/21/SPBT1LKSMR.DTL
"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.
well I mean, had they fired him,
they would be paying all of his salary. Presumably, he was going to be fired.
Why? We had _awesome_ pitching
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by nuthinboutnuthin on Oct 23, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey!!
Remember that time that Curt Young…um…hmmm…..huh.
Nevermind.
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