Casey Kelly, Anthony Rizzo, Reymond Fuentes Rank As Top Padres Prospects
by Ben Buchanan on Jan 24, 2011 4:32 PM EST
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PrintWhen trading a top-of-the-line, All-Star type of player, it's hard to see the return, whatever it might be, as equal value.
Hopefully, Baseball America's latest rankings (subscription required) of the San Diego Padres' farm system will help that notion along some for the fans who had to say goodbye to Adrian Gonzalez this offseason. Filling up three of the top four slots, Casey Kelly, Anthony Rizzo, and Reymond Fuentes are looking like a pretty sizable haul right about now.
At the top is, of course, Casey Kelly. Despite his disappointing ERA in 2011, BA reminds us all of exactly what he was up against:
Boston attributed that to him having to learn how to harness an increase in velocity and make his mechanics work as his frame started to mature. His fastball now ranges from 89-93 mph and peaks at 96.
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It's easy to forget that 2010 was Kelly's first full year as a pitcher, and his learning curve against Double-A hitters was steep.
In second, Baseball America gives strong grades to Anthony Rizzo's defense and emerging home run power, while fourth place Reymond Fuentes is expected to make big contributions after a rather longer stint in the minor leagues.
We've started in on our top-20 prospects list here. And though we've only got two spots done, I thought it'd be a fun little exercise to see where you all would expect our departed minor leaguers to slot in. Discuss!
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One downside on Gonzalex trade; We lose my two favorite prospects.
Oh well. We have Gonzalez :D
by Marisa Ingemi on Jan 24, 2011 5:41 PM EST up reply actions
Probably:
Kelly
Iglesias
Rizzo
Kalish
Ranaudo
Britton
Doubront
Pimentel
Lin (Hix hype job is very convincing)
Cecchini
Fuentes maybe just in Top 20.
by OzTiger on Jan 24, 2011 5:22 PM EST via mobile reply actions
continuing from my initial 10 above, 11-20 would be:
Reddick
Middlebrooks
Vitek
Anderson
Tejeda
Coyle
Lavarnway
Fuentes
Exposito
Tazawa
by OzTiger on Jan 24, 2011 8:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
oops, accidentally forgot Navarro...
He goes at 12, pushing the rest down.
by OzTiger on Jan 24, 2011 8:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I know I'm gonna get a lot of hell for this, but:
Kalish
Rizzo
Ranaudo
Kelly
Iglesias
Doubront
Pimentel
Britton
Lavarnway
Lin
Lars
Vitek
Navarro
Reddick
Fuentes
Middlebrooks
Tazawa
Tejeda
Exposito
Workman
Younginer
Bowden
Cecchini
Ibarra
Coyle
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I honestly like that as a basic outline.
Move a few people up or down a few spots but overall pretty similar to what I would have. I like Ranaudo above Kelly I think there is more upside but I don’t think I would do it this year just because he has no pro experience.
I love Lester, Pedroia, and Gonzo!!! ITS MAN LOVE!
I wonder if that takes into account
the fact that the type of skillset he has is probably much more useful if he comes up in Petco than if he comes up in Fenway
He is ranked way too high on this list.
The highest I have seen him elsewhere would be on John Sickle’s list which he landed at No. 8.
I would rank Castro over Rizzo and without hesitation would rank both Decker and Tate over Fuentes.
For what it is worth my Padres Top 10 looks like this:
1.) Casey Kelly
2.) Simon Castro
**I think both Kelly and Castro are fairly interchangeable in the top spot.
3.) Jaff Decker
4.) Anthony Rizzo
5.) Donovan Tate
6.) Corey Luebke
7.) Drew Cumberland
8.) James Darnell
9.) Jedd Gyorko
10.) Keyvius Sampson
Just miss: Edinson Ricon, Adys Portillo, Reymond Fuentes
by polyrhythm07 on Jan 24, 2011 6:45 PM EST up reply actions
And since this is a Red Sox blog...
Boston Top 10 (w/players from Gonzalez trade)
1.) Casey Kelly
2.) Ryan Kalish
3.) Anthony Rizzo
4.) Anthony Ranaudo
5.) Drake Britton
6. Jose Inglasias
7.) Josh Riddick
8.) Stolmy Pimentel
9.) Garin Cecchini
10.) Ryan Lavarnway
Just miss: Reymond Fuentes, Felix Doubront, Oscar Tejada
by polyrhythm07 on Jan 24, 2011 6:56 PM EST up reply actions
Reasonable
but I would put Doubront up higher. Probably above Stolmy and maybe even Riddick (who really needs to turn the corner this year).
Better in night games...
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by nuthinboutnuthin on Jan 24, 2011 7:57 PM EST up reply actions
Hey, you guys know it's Reddick, right?
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by Ben Buchanan on Jan 24, 2011 8:42 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah...
… ‘cause Riddick has more plate discipline. And I’d rate him higher based on the potential enterainment if Joba tries to plunk him…
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by nuthinboutnuthin on Jan 24, 2011 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
He was 6th on our list this year by Baseball America
So “Fringe Prospect” is not something they’d agree with.
This was before the A-Gon trade of course.
by South Coast Ghost on Jan 25, 2011 8:51 AM EST up reply actions
Fuentes is...divisive.
He’s got a projectable body, basically, but has yet to really show results. Lacks discipline and power.
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by Ben Buchanan on Jan 25, 2011 5:22 PM EST up reply actions
I'll be high on Vitek once I figure out where he's playing and how well...
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by Ben Buchanan on Jan 25, 2011 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
Kelly 1; Rizzo 3 (behind Kalish); Fuentes 11 tops (Iglesias, Ranaudo, Britton, Doubront, Vitek, Cechini, Lavarnway)
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by nuthinboutnuthin on Jan 24, 2011 6:33 PM EST reply actions
Deal had to be done.
Even if these guys do really well, the fact they are in the NL West obscurity of PETCO park, will take some of that sting out. The fact that Agonz is going to absolutely thrive and become a larger than life star at Fenway will take out the rest of that same sting.
!!!!! GONZO !!!!!
!!!!! CRAWFORD !!!!!
!!!!! LIVERPOOL !!!!!
So ready for April 1st and see the start of the 1.000 OPS monster he is going to be here.
I love Lester, Pedroia, and Gonzo!!! ITS MAN LOVE!
So does anyone here other than Kraken and I agree that Kelly wouldn't be 1?
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Honestly, if anyone was above him, I'd say maybe Rizzo passed him
I don’t see anyone else as coming close. Kalish should be good, but just doesn’t have anything like the potential; Ranaudo hasn’t played pro ball; Iglesias needs to hit- everyone has question marks
Rizzo could have been I think, I was just very impressed with the way he handled himself, starting his first year ever as a dedicated pitcher as the youngest player in his league in AA. The stats outwardly aren’t great but with everything considered he has a very high ceiling.
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Kelly was number 2 on my list this time last year.
You all know who number one was then.
by OzTiger on Jan 24, 2011 8:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'd put Kalish above him
Probably no one else, although there would be a chance Rizzo could pass him during the season.
by South Coast Ghost on Jan 25, 2011 8:53 AM EST up reply actions
Does Atchison have the last pen spot locked down?
I’d rather Hill or Miller get it.
!!!!! GONZO !!!!!
!!!!! CRAWFORD !!!!!
!!!!! LIVERPOOL !!!!!
He's on a ML deal (40-man) so he'd have to really suck in S.T.
of course so is Albers, so I’ve got no idea
1B) Gonzo
2B) Pedroia
SS) Lowrie, Scutaro
3B) Youkilis
C) Salty, Varitek
LF) Crawford, McDonald
CF) Cameron, Ellsbury
RF) Drew
DH) Ortiz
Beckett
Lester
Buchholz
LAckey
DiceK
Papelbon
Bard
Jenks
Okajima
Wakefield
Wheeler
So must be one of:
Atchison/Albers ?
yuck
!!!!! GONZO !!!!!
!!!!! CRAWFORD !!!!!
!!!!! LIVERPOOL !!!!!
Thinking Albers is gone.
I'm a 7 WAR player in bed.
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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 24, 2011 7:54 PM EST up reply actions
I'd take my chances with Hill/Miller
over Albers or Atchison
!!!!! GONZO !!!!!
!!!!! CRAWFORD !!!!!
!!!!! LIVERPOOL !!!!!
But they can keep Miller in the minors without losing him.
Better to make sure they’ve got him where they want him before exposing him to major league hitting again.
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by Ben Buchanan on Jan 24, 2011 8:33 PM EST up reply actions
I think Hill is the LOOGY in waiting though
!!!!! GONZO !!!!!
!!!!! CRAWFORD !!!!!
!!!!! LIVERPOOL !!!!!
yeah I think that makes a lot of sense
but just for the sake of keeping as many players as possible, pretty sure he won’t start the year in the majors.
1 – Ranaudo
2 – Rizzo
3 – Kalish
4 – Kelly
Think of it this way. If SD today offered Kelly for Ranaudo, would you do it? I wouldn’t. Kelly is still finding himself as a Pitcher. Ranaudo is more advanced in the mechanics
of the position. Rizzo and Kalish is a much closer battle and I basically flipped a coin for that one. Kalish is slightly ahead right now, but I’m a little more enamored with Rizzo’s potential ceiling.
Fuentes is somewhere around #10 or 12. I’m not ready to think that much ahead yet.
Kelly vs. Ranaudo is an interesting question
And while I’d definitely need more scouting on Kelly’s velocity, Ranaudo’s injury, and just general projectability, I believe I’d go with Kelly right now, though…
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by Ben Buchanan on Jan 24, 2011 8:41 PM EST up reply actions
I wonder if having Ranaudo made dealing Kelly a little easier to do.
They shouldn’t really be related, but knowing you have another high ceiling pitcher in the system and no immediate need to rush him may have played into it a bit.
I'm not sure I agree
It’s not like they were competing for playing time against each other. There are five rotation spots and I think Theo prefers to keep all prospects who show potential if he can.
by South Coast Ghost on Jan 25, 2011 9:19 AM EST up reply actions
Agree
I’m sure having Ranauda made it a little easier. Then again, getting AGon made it MUCH easier.
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