Orioles Feast On Bullpen, Trounce Red Sox 9-1
by Ben Buchanan on Sep 22, 2010 1:15 AM EDT
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PrintJust another day in Red Sox nation, eh?
So, let's get the good stuff out of the way. Clay Buchholz pitched well enough: Six innings, four hits, three walks, one unearned run, five strikeouts. Okajima continued his streak, too, striking out two batters in the seventh.
Then there were the kids doing work. Jed Lowrie and Ryan Kalish both walked and collected doubles, while Lars Anderson and Yamaico Navarro chipped in with singles.
So there's that.
Then there's the fact that Scott Atchison allowed a three run homer while recording one out, Jonathan Papelbon gave up five hits and four runs in his inning, Adrian Beltre threw a ball away to extend said inning, and Marco Scutaro pulled a Luis Castillo on what should have been Buchholz' last out in the sixth inning, bringing in that unearned run. And then there's the fact that Brad Bergesen shut down David Ortiz and J.D. Drew despite throwing not one single pitch with his left hand (though that may have made this game a lot more amusing).
So yeah.
Oh, and Matt Fox pitched. I dunno. The best part of the night was probably Ken Burns talking about continuing his baseball documentary in the booth.
Not much longer left. . .
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"Pulled a Luis Castillo" LOL
Nice phrase, but not totally accurate. To be a complete Castillo, the error must transform an imminent loss into a walk-off victory.
Extra points if the team receiving the benefit of the Castillo goes onto win the WS. But Baltimore can’t get the bonus this year.
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Pitiful
This team has simply lost its heart. This team would have been 4 1/2 games back if we hadn’t been so shitty the last two nights. And we would have gained even more ground had we not lost 2 out of 3 to the Jays, 2 out of 3 to the A’s, 2 out of 3 to the Rays (twice), and gotten swept by the White Sox. I was never of the belief that we were out of it after the series in Tampa, but that was the attitude of the media (‘’Glad it’s football season’’). A lot of this rests with management. How can the Orioles be playing so well, and we suck royally? Regardless of the injuries, this team has gotten progressively worse since the 2007 WS. If we are not seriously competing for a Championship next year, serious thought should be given to not exercising Tito’s option. Now I can say, ‘’Glad it’s football season’’. See you guys next year.
Okay...
…who had “Game 151” in the hit-and-run NG/bandwagon75 post about how everything sucks pool?
Pay up…
Wait 'til next/this year?
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by nuthinboutnuthin on Sep 22, 2010 3:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Well I had game never for NG, he seems gone for good.
"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.
NG, by his own admission, is a fair-weather fan.
He won’t show up when they’re actually in bad shape—just when they screw up when they’re doing well.
Fenway: "An alternate and better universe, disguised as a ballpark." --Thomas Boswell
Regardless of the injuries?
I think you have to take the injuries into account in evaluating the 2010 season.
The Sox will lose over ONE THOUSAND player-games to injury. That’s SIX players on the DL for the entire season! There is no way any 25-player team in the major leagues can withstand that level of injuries and still be competitive in a division like the AL East.
Do you think we’d even be having this discussion if Youkilis and Pedroia were still active? If VMart and Varitek hadn’t gotten injured within days of each other, forcing us to platoon the likes of Kevin Cash and Dusty Brown?
The season was effectively over when Pedroia failed in his comeback bid. The “senior” Sox recognized that; the younger Sox, who are providing most of the spark of the team right now, are playing for their careers more than anything else.
Fenway: "An alternate and better universe, disguised as a ballpark." --Thomas Boswell
And if by heart you mean
Youkilis and Pedrioa then you are absolutely correct because they uh well, they aren’t playing. Losing two players who are at the top of the game offensively and defensively at their positions is going to hurt and it has. Please check out my fanpost "What we lost… what we "gained"", it’s in the archives now but it spells out the loses we’ve faced this season and how because of those loses we’ve missed out on about 8 wins at least.
To even question why we “suck so royally” is idiocy, where have you been this season? Have you not been paying attention at all this season? My answer would be to check our roster.
Always trying to blame someone man, take a step back and realize that this season is no one’s fault, well Beltre’s knee did have some say in the matter but I dare you to question him about it or touch his head.
"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.
+this
It is impossible to assess this year because effectively the intended team never played. Instead it was patchwork outfield and key u fielders missing significant time.
by The Herndon Kid on Sep 22, 2010 3:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Gonna be honest here
I clicked through just to see the squirrel.
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Best player on the field
+1
Wait 'til next/this year?
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by nuthinboutnuthin on Sep 22, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Not even on the field. Entirely different game, man.
USG
by Ben Buchanan on Sep 22, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I recognize that squirrel.
That’s the squirrel from the game against the Tigers, wasn’t it? The one where the backstop was showing a sign that said “SavingSquirrels.com?” That’s a classic moment—the best part is the camera catching the squirrel splayed out on the top of the outfield wall, with his paw dangling over the edge.
Fenway: "An alternate and better universe, disguised as a ballpark." --Thomas Boswell
I even made a "Gone home for the day" sign
For our group’s administrative assistant based on that game.
Fenway: "An alternate and better universe, disguised as a ballpark." --Thomas Boswell
Must be it's twin, I guess.
The resemblence is uncanny.
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Shoulda figured
Wait 'til next/this year?
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by nuthinboutnuthin on Sep 22, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Someone convince me that non tendering Papelbon is not a real possibility at this point
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This year? Not a chance
He’s under team control for 2011, so there’s no reason not to tender him. Then you could try to trade him next year in mid-year, or let him walk and then take the draft picks.
Letting him go this year and getting absolutely nothing? That’s even stupider than giving him a long-term extension.
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unless he's not worth the $12 million he'll get in arbitration
and I don’t see how he’s worth close to that.
But is he worth more than the $12 mil he's getting?
I doubt he accepts less and don’t you usually get raises in arbitration?
Well theoretically you're getting better
He has regressed mightily.
He isn’t worth it BUT we’re desperately in need of bullpen arms and for better or worse he’s been our second best arm, either we keep what we have or go and sign some over priced reliever in FA.
"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.
True
I guess there is a shot they could win in arbitration or at least convince Paps/Boras they will
Has arbitration ever gone DOWN? I can't think of any instances.
"You know you're having a bad day when the fifth inning rolls around and they drag the warning track." - Mike Flanagan, Baltimore Orioles pitcher, 1992.
I certainly think a case could be made for it in this case
and I’d like to see it happen. Even if it’s by 50 bucks, just to make a point.
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Non-tendering? No. Removing from closer's role... I'd be down.
"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.
Wouldn't you rather have your best reliever available for the most critical moment?
That usually isn’t the last 3 clean outs of the ballgame.
"You know you're having a bad day when the fifth inning rolls around and they drag the warning track." - Mike Flanagan, Baltimore Orioles pitcher, 1992.
why would you non tender Papelbon?
yeah, hes struggled, but you already have a shaky bullpen, why nontender your closer?
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by bestbostonsports on Sep 22, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
could spend that $12 million on a couple of pretty effective relievers.
But if and only if Bard is up for closing.
Could non-tender Paps and grab Soriano.
You upgrade your “closer” and Bard’s still available to pitch when it actually matters.
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by TheLoneDavid on Sep 22, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Well I like to look at things positively
At least the squirrel looks happy
Every Red Sox loss, I like to blame on the Yankees. Every Yankees win, I like to blame the Rays.
Right!
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by bestbostonsports on Sep 22, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Man, this season needs two in the back of the head.
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I'd feel better
if I thought we could compete in the next few seasons. But the Yankees and Rays are so infinitely better than we, and I don’t see that changing. We simply have too many holes, and our only current solution is to throw money and years at flawed players (Beltre and Martinez) which will continue the decline.
I hope I’m wrong, but unless all the kids become superheroes by June, we’re in a tight spot.
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I don't know
Conventional wisdom (Or MLBTR anyway) see the Rays blowing up after this year, they’re losing Crawford and Pena for sure and they believe that because of this they’ll ship away either Garza or Shields and rebuild for another run in a couple of years when Price is in his prime.
The Yankees well, yeah they’re good but they are about to re-sign a late 30s shortstop who is in obvious decline to a multi year deal, their best catcher is now their DH, they’re a solid team but they do have holes like us.
We were on pace to be a decent team this year but got derailed, Beltre and VMart aren’t ideal to sign long term but they are the best options we’ll have to remain competitive, each can be productive for a few more seasons and as our youth comes the cost will be easier to handle, Ortiz is going to take up some payroll but if Lavarnway makes it up we’ll save a lot, when Rizzo is here we’ll drop the cost of a 3B, those are all projections of course but paying a guy a rookie salary will take the strain off of having a $10 mil catcher/1B/DH.
"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.
Not just CW here.
One of the links to the right today has the owner saying payroll for next year will go from $72MM down to $50MM. That means buh-bye to Soriano, Peña, and Crawford.
Fenway: "An alternate and better universe, disguised as a ballpark." --Thomas Boswell
yeah Soriano is a HUGE loss for them
if he hadn’t been as ridiculously dominating as he has been, they would’ve won a lot less games.
right
The Red Sox will contend. I can understand calling this season over, but next year? it hasnt even started yet!
The Rays will not be as good next year.
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by bestbostonsports on Sep 22, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not worried looking forward
I don’t think our kids will need to become superheros by June, but that would be a plus.
Like Rouge Nine said, Conventional wisdom at MLBTR has the Rays in decline because of a lack of money to sign players like Crawford and Pena. Although I think Desmond Jennings does have the ability to be another Crawford. As for the Yankees, they are getting older all the time. Other than Cano, Tex, Gardner, and Granderson, I can’t think of any real “young” players who start. Provided they do have Jesus Montero soon, and he looks impressive.
I think next year will be much better than this one (Really, how could it get worse? We were decimated by injuries and had to use AAA players for half our lineup card for parts of the season.), I really think the young kids who come up next year will be at least as valuable as the players who are playing this season and won’t be back next year.
On a side note, Hell hasn’t frozen over yet has it?
Every Red Sox loss, I like to blame on the Yankees. Every Yankees win, I like to blame the Rays.
by outofleftfield on Sep 22, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Coming from a Yankee fan...
It’ll be back to Red Sox and Yankees back in 1st and 2nd place(in any order). The Rays are losing Pena, Crawford, Soriano and Wheeler. While the Red Sox are getting back Youkilis, Pedroia, Ellsbury, Cameron, etc.
This all depends on what happens with your DH spot,V-Mart and Beltre, of course.
P.S: I think Dunn would be great for you guys. But he said he doesn’t want to sign to be a DH(which he should be)
Totally agreed on Dunn
I think he totally overvalues his defensive prowess or lack there of.
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whoa
Thats a no no. You never leave a game before it is over.
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by bestbostonsports on Sep 22, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I was disgusted
But watched the game. I don’t know why I like torturing myself.
Every Red Sox loss, I like to blame on the Yankees. Every Yankees win, I like to blame the Rays.
by outofleftfield on Sep 22, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
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