Returning Lowell's Homer The Difference As Tempers Flare Between Red Sox And Indians
by Ben Buchanan on Aug 4, 2010 1:34 AM EDT
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PrintMike Lowell hadn't started a major league game since June 13. He hadn't even had a major league at bat since June 22. As recently as Monday it looked like Lowell was headed towards release. But after an extended stint on the disabled list and five games in the minor leagues, Lowell returned to Fenway to replace the injured Kevin Youkilis. After receiving a standing ovation from the crow, Lowell saw his first major league pitch in 50 days, and promptly knocked it into the monster seats for a two run homer.
While Bill Hall would add a solo shot in the fourth, Lowell's home run would be all the Red Sox needed to back up a dominant Josh Beckett. Other than a pair of wild pitches that caught Shelley Duncan on the arm and Shin-Soo Choo (sending the latter to the ground in pain), and a leadoff homer in the third inning to Lou Marson, Beckett was on tonight. Utilizing a strong curveball, Beckett held the Indians lineup to just one run on three hits over eight innings, striking out eight batters without allowing a walk beyond the pair of hit batsmen.
One day after losing their star catching prospect in a violent collision at the plate, the Indians took exception to those two painful plate appearances. With David Ortiz at bat in the seventh, reliever Justin Germano threw behind David Ortiz' knees. It seemed like things were done with--Beckett plunked some Indians, likely by accident, and the Indians responded with a statement pitch before getting Ortiz to ground out. But then, in the eighth, the first pitch of the inning from Jensen Lewis went behind Beltre, who took a few steps towards the mound.
The home plate umpire and Marson got between Beltre and Lewis in a hurry, but both benches cleared, and when Josh Beckett and Shelley Duncan started shouting at eachother, things got heated, with Beckett having to be restrained. Just when things seemed to calm down, Terry Francona started back towards the Indians, in a shouting match with third base coach Steve Smith (likely just taking out his frustration with certain other third base coaches). By the time all was said and done, Beckett, Lewis, and Smith were all tossed from the game. Not exactly the most violent of brawls, but sparks none the left.
The end of the game, fortunately, came with significantly less action, as Jonathan Papelbon quietly put away the three batters he faced in the ninth to record a much needed clean save.
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I suspect that this isn't over
This isn’t the kind of thing Beckettt will forget. I wonder what his next outing vs the Indians will be like. I wouldn’t want to be in that line up particularly if decides that he isn’t going to plunk someone. Could be a long night of very few at bats.
Talk about a day that they needed a win
this was an important one… for morale, for record, for just about everything. And an awesome game. It was good to see Beckett out there dominating for the first time in quite a while. Hopefully he can keep it up down the stretch.
He's actually been quite good since his return.
I honestly look forward to his starts now. I’ve always liked Beckett, and would like nothing more than him to be the pitcher I, and most people, believe he can be. 2007 rings a bell.
Times like these I wish I wasn't in DC
I would have loved to have seen the reaction to Lowell’s HR.
This game was what we needed after the down-in-the-dumps sort of day we had.
Will be interesting to see who gets sent down for Jacoby.
Also, I know it’s ONLY 4 game so far but uh, this Kalish guy, he sorta fit right in right away, even in his 0-fer night he managed a sac fly and has multi-hit in his other 3 games. How does he look in the field?
"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.
Outside of dropping a fly ball right at the monster (tough play for anyone new to that LF)
He’s been fantastic.
Made a running catch in foul territory, and threw two runners out at the plate.
He gets good jumps on balls, and his arm, is pretty damn impressive. He looks like the real deal. He’s also a hell of an outside pitch hitter.
Reaction to Lowell's homer...
It really WAS sweet!
LOL
Love this comment from Peter Abraham over at Extra Bases:
Justin Germano threw a pitch behind David Ortiz in the seventh inning. Jensen Lewis then did the same in the eighth with Adrian Beltre up. You get one chance to do it right, not two. So the Red Sox were steamed and next thing you know the teams were on the field. The Indians are lucky that Beltre didn’t tear off somebody’s arm are start beating them over the head with it.
There are no stupid questions, but there are a LOT of inquisitive idiots.
by return2greatness on Aug 4, 2010 10:03 AM EDT reply actions
So true. I just watched the fight on the Indians broadcast. lol
Blamed Beltre and said no way was that intentional! lmao
I love Lester and Pedroia!!! ITS MAN LOVE!
OMG I fucking love Beltre!
Broke his bat on his knee! Such a badass, worst person to through at he would fuck you up!
I love Lester and Pedroia!!! ITS MAN LOVE!
Seriously?
You might hit somebody by accident.
You don’t accidentally throw behind them.
USG
by Ben Buchanan on Aug 4, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't get Beltre's anger levels
Left fielder behind him, that’s a no go for the fielder and his wrath brings you a broken rib or two.
Touch his head, you’ll probably get punched in the face.
Thrown behind, he’ll yell but won’t beat you up.
The man is a loose cannon.
"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.
Thinking about it
Beltre needs to go cleats first into a second baseman, maybe Cano, just to prove his loyalty to the Sox, I feel like he shows more restraint on other teams than our players, Ellsbury, Hermida, if VMart didn’t get out of the way I think he would have been knocked the hell out after the head touching incident.
"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.
He showed a lot of discipline by not charging the mound yesterday...
We all know he wanted to, but the sox, as he clearly understood, can ill afford a lengthy suspension to a star player right now.
I'd take missing 5-7 days of Beltre
For the endless enjoyment that would come from watching Beltre beat Lewis over the head with his batting helmet on youtube over and over again.
Sort of like this clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJvL1dI1Eyc
"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.
I don't want to be "That Guy"
I know we’re all a little frustrated with how this season has gone, but it seems lately like there’s been a whole lot more fighting going on here. I couldn’t get through last night’s game thread.
Can’t we all just get along!?
DFA Beckett
by South Coast Ghost on Aug 4, 2010 10:16 AM EDT reply actions
Yes
One big happy family ;)
LOL I made myself laugh
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by bestbostonsports on Aug 4, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
It was bound to happen
I seem to remember some bad game threads in May, again near the the ASB and once again at the deadline. Youk to the DL was just one more thing to further divide the “we’re still in it” camp with the “let’s shut’er down” camp.
It did get a little personal I thought though, we all have our reasons as to why we think either way.
I for example think we’re out of it, because of how far back we are and how many games we have left and we just lost our best offensive weapon, when we need to play 10% better than the Yanks or Rays, who to this point, we can say they should be slowing down soon, but the season is 2/3 over and they haven’t yet.
Though if we go on a decent win streak here I can fully buy into the other argument, that Lowell might have enough in the tank with the time off, that Lowrie and Kalish can provide the extra spark and Pedrioa will be a man-beast once again and everything works out, entirely possible.
We’re just all a little passionate, can we tone it down folks?! [/sarcasm]
"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.
Well, when Drew Palmer called someone a "Faggot"
That’s when I knew I should just leave and not come back to game threads for a while.
DFA Beckett
by South Coast Ghost on Aug 4, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
That's kinda more what I meant
DFA Beckett
by South Coast Ghost on Aug 4, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Last night someone "who names their kid Shelley Duncan"
After the brawl, and I said “a faggot”
Now if that upsets you, me getting on the indians, after all that BS that went down last night…then you really need to grow a backbone.
Pretty much all arguments here, whether its Sandy and I, Pesky, BoldnBrash, etc…are all in good fun. It’s the freaking internet. Relax.
Wow missed that
Yeah that’s too far.
"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.
who said that?
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by bestbostonsports on Aug 4, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
See above, or below and remember Drew Palmer = RockEmSoxEm
"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.
gotta love people who can't read, and as a result, make false accusations.
South Coast, try reading, as to get a grasp of the entire conversation, before you attempt to throw someone under the bus.
Not cool.
When was this pal?
Because I’m pretty sure since about 3 months ago, when Sandy and I were bickering
Everyone here can vouch that I pretty much havent even argued with anyone.
Oh I found it
I think you called Shelly Duncan’s parents a bitch and a faggot.
Much different than calling a member here one.
"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.
Yay slow internet you've already explained...
"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.
Exactly.
Guy needs to relax.
We were all getting on his parents last night. Plus, if you cannot take reading “faggot” or other expletives on an internet blog…you need to not watch movies, TV, or pretty much do anything involving multimedia.
Seems like a misunderstanding on SCG’s part since you weren’t directing that at anyone on the blog, we’ve all said worse things about Joba’s parents.
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I saw everything now
I dont blame you
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by bestbostonsports on Aug 4, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
No, sorry
I dislike that term, immensely. I wouldn’t call anyone that term. I just can’t give you a break.
DFA Beckett
by South Coast Ghost on Aug 4, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Fair enough
Although I suppose it would be uncouth of me to ask us to restrain from using terms large groups might find offensive?
DFA Beckett
by South Coast Ghost on Aug 4, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
I think if anyone gets offended by a damn word, in this society
enough to make a stink about it, you kind of need someone to thicken your skin.
So I suppose if Duncan were black
And someone had called him the N word, and I had made a stink about it, I would still need to thicken my skin, according to you?
DFA Beckett
by South Coast Ghost on Aug 4, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
this argument is out of hand now
break it up
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by bestbostonsports on Aug 4, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
I was merely curious
If it was that particular word that I needed to toughen up about, or just all insults, no matter how bad they were.
That’s all. I’m not calling anyone any names, not yelling, not threatening, nothing.
DFA Beckett
by South Coast Ghost on Aug 4, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
We need to have some sort of forum on the future of gamethreads.
If only Randy were not largely internetless.
USG
by Ben Buchanan on Aug 4, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually, Yes
Get over it.
And seriously….the “N” word has just a tad bit more of a stigma to it than “faggot” so please, don’t compare the two, ever.
There is a certain amount of hypocrisy in how some derogatory terms are social acceptable while others are considered off limits.
For instance, everyone’s jumped all over posters for calling Dice-K, “Jap” or using other words to attack his heritage.
But, “Faggot” is much more social acceptable. So if you call someone a faggot in a game thread no one really bats an eye.
I personally don’t care what anyone calls anyone. I unable to be offended by a word, so I’m alright with people saying whatever they would like without censor ship.
However, I dislike the hypocrisy of censoring some words while allowing the use others.
A lovely justification
To be an ignorant ass. I’ve never had a problem with you in the past, but walking through life (and, by extension, this blog) arrogantly proclaiming “I do what I want, I don’t give a shit, and if you do that’s your problem” is flat out bullshit. It’s not like it’s conformity, it’s common decency.
Galactus does as he pleases. Because Galactus is drunk.
@#$%ing Twit: @blogtard
Point taken.
On another note, you have a very refreshingly sophisticated writing style.
I’m impressed.
Well, thanks.
Appreciated.
Galactus does as he pleases. Because Galactus is drunk.
@#$%ing Twit: @blogtard
please, calm down
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by bestbostonsports on Aug 4, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
How do you mean?
I’d hardly say that I was attacking the guy. In fact, I said that I’ve never had a problem with him. But he was throwing around derogatory terms and, for all intents and purposes, taking an aggressive tone with the entirety of this community, and so I said that I thought it was unnecessary.
You will recall I’ve done the same for you, personally.
Galactus does as he pleases. Because Galactus is drunk.
@#$%ing Twit: @blogtard
Maybe he saw Sandy instead of Shelly
And thought that you were talking about that instead, a rekindling of the bickering that occured a couple months ago.
Pretty easy to misread, for instance a headline on BleedingGreenNation yesterday:
“Former Eagles DT Mike Golic (47 years old) Passes Haynesworth Test”
My mind skipped right over Haynesworth Test and thought he had died, I was pretty distraught for a while there until I actually read it.
"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.
Haynesworth is a massively overpaid, apparently out of shape, child.
I’m glad that Golic and that reporter from DC have passed or nearly passed the test. It’s what, 3 shuttle runs with 5 minute breaks in between?
If he had just shut up and gone to the team workouts earlier and just be happy to make that much money he never would have gone through this massive embarrassment.
"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.
yea, pretty funny.
Buddy of mine is a huge skins fan. Condolences to him haha.
Haynesworth’s a sack of garbage, and always has been ever since stomping a man’s face with a metal cleat
This is all Jensen Lewis' fault.
Beckett was wild, and Geronimo was wild. Then Lewis comes in and immediately throws at Beltre.
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I loved seeing Lackey jump right in and get Beckett's back.
I like him anyway, but for some reason that kind of stuff makes me respect a guy that much more. Those two are quite the competitive duo and it gets me going to see players who take the game and the defense of their teammates seriously. With all the talk of this version of the Sox being boring to watch, which I absolutely disagree with, I especially enjoyed last night.
Bill Simmons pissed me off with that article.
He’s annoying.
The sox aren’t boring this year. Everyone expected us to score 3 runs a game, and have no offense…how’d that work out?
Screw what people think…I watch every game, and the sox have more chemistry on that bench than I can remember over the last 3 years.
I agree
I said this offense would be great going into the season… I was right
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by bestbostonsports on Aug 4, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, that article sucked.
I generally like Simmons, but that was bullshit. This has been a very entertaining team to watch for many reasons and no matter what happens the rest of the way, most of us diehards will probably agree that if this group could have stayed healthier they would have made a serious championship run. And you’re right, the chemistry for whatever it’s worth seems very strong.
by SendEmHomeKim on Aug 4, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
If healthy, as we saw at the end of june when we surged to a game behind the yanks, and 1.5 ahead of the rays...
We absolutely would have made a run. Dissappointing, but shit happens.
Here’s to hoping Mikey Lowell, Kalish, Ells, and Pedroia when he comes back in a week or two, can add a spark.
http://www.weei.com/sports/boston/this-just-in/2130117/ellsbury-lead-lowell-sit-against-masterson
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by bestbostonsports on Aug 4, 2010 12:41 PM EDT reply actions
It's a shame the rosters don't expand on August 1st.
This would be a good time to get Lars up for a platoon with Lowell, give him a taste and get a good look at him ourselves.
by SendEmHomeKim on Aug 4, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Um... maybe?
Im not a huge Lars person as you know.
I would not do that unless we fall back 12 in the WC.
I prefer Lowell and Lowrie as platoon 1B
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by bestbostonsports on Aug 4, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I've never seen Lars play and thus have no opinion.
However, I have seen more than enough of Kevin Cash. I assume Terry doesn’t want to ride Lowell too hard and since Masterson is especially tough on right-handers… But you’re right, why not Lowrie at 1st and Vic behind the plate tonight?
by SendEmHomeKim on Aug 4, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Lowrie at 1st and Vic receiving is the ideal lineup, but we don’t get that today. It’s really dumb, I mean, before last night Lowell’s had like 2 months off, I think he has the strength to play two nights in a row.
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I have seen Lars play several times live
I’d much rather go with Lowrie.
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by bestbostonsports on Aug 4, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Hall's better than Cash.
He may not be better than many, but he’s better than Cash. Besides, in that scenario Patterson would probably start against Masterson.
by SendEmHomeKim on Aug 4, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Lars isn't anywhere near ready for that
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agreed
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by bestbostonsports on Aug 4, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
You're both probably right,
but let’s say you had the choice between Cash and Victor and Victor and Lars in the lineup tonight, what would you do?
by SendEmHomeKim on Aug 4, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Victor and Lowrie
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by bestbostonsports on Aug 4, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I know
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by bestbostonsports on Aug 4, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
that's one less item on sportscenter i don't care at all about.
after they’re done talking about it all day that is.
by SendEmHomeKim on Aug 4, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
File that under, not giving a crap
I was going to throw my TV out the window when ESPN started doing game breaks to watch him flail at every pitch trying too hard.
If this were a few years ago, before he was tainted by his admission, maybe I could have cared, but that’s just a milestone that lost meaning the moment he admitted to anything.
"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.
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