Red Sox Suffer Second Straight Devastating Defeat
by Ben Buchanan on Aug 14, 2010 12:29 AM EDT
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PrintThey went back-to-back-to-back. They scored seven runs in the third inning, and nine overall. They spotted Josh Beckett a six run lead to work with. And the Red Sox blew it in 11.
Who's at fault? There are plenty of candidates to blame.
Beckett was awful, awful, awful, giving up six earned on ten hits and three homers in five innings.
Francona let him stay out there that long.
There's J.D. Drew who hit two homers, but also blew a pair of plays in the outfield, letting runs score.
There's Victor Martinez (or Ryan Kalish, depending on your view of the play), who let a ball get away at home and a run score.
There's Felix Doubront, who allowed a pair of hits and runs without closing an inning (though both of those were arguably the result of Drew's bad play).
There's Daniel Bard who allowed the game-tying run in the eighth (though, again, the defense...)
Maybe you shrug, and acknowledge some of the insane defensive plays the Rangers made, robbing the Red Sox of what could have been game winning runs.
By the time you get to Tim Wakefield, giving up the walk off on his first and only pitch of the game, it's hard to really even think anymore.
But that's only a loss. There's also the fact that Jacoby Ellsbury left the game in the fourth inning after a collision at first with pitcher Tommy Hunter during the first at bat of the game. And that Jed Lowrie was mysteriously pulled for Bill Hall (injured or tired? Who knows?) in the late innings. Or that Victor Martinez, in the final inning of the game, fouled a ball off his foot and was noticeably limping afterwards.
Amazingly, one of the only players free of controversy or concern tonight is the man who allowed Thursday's travesty: Jonathan Papelbon.
In a season of dramatic disappointments, this is perhaps the worst. Leaving the bases loaded with zero outs against the Rays in extras is one thing. But with the playoff race staring the Red Sox in the face, with the Rays having already lost and the Yankees down in Kansas City, and asking the team to just grab ahold, they turned their backs. This is a collapse of monumental proportions and, depending on who comes away injured, importance.
This is the one you want to forget, but can't.
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Its on everyone
But mostly Beckett
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by bestbostonsports on Aug 14, 2010 12:36 AM EDT reply actions
To answer the Jed Lowrie question, Tito in the post game show said he was pulled from the game with heat exhaustion, he was "going down hill pretty fast".
He was treated with IV fluids (Two bags of saline).
Understandable, given the heat down there and his enegy levels.
Galactus does as he pleases. Because Galactus is drunk.
Does someone wanna tell me where the @#$% Drugs Delaney is?
@#$%ing Twit: @blogtard
As a lifelong Ranger fan
I can say that no loss hurt for me personally than this one I attended last year. Tonight’s game reminded me of it.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/TEX/TEX200908140.shtml
That would’ve given us a share of the WC with you, but instead you won it in grand fashion and ran away with the WC.
We’re even now? Heh, I wish… ask me in 40 years… All I want is one world series.
Whatever
I’m not even mad. What does that say about this year? I dont know where some of you get this hope. They’re blowing gimmes. The team has been doing this the whole year. Next year we will hopefully be able to field a major league team the whole year with improved personnel. The offseason should be entertaining and exciting.
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by bucimislover on Aug 14, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
done
i’m off Beckett. He don’t care.
And he is starting to look like ButchPatrick from, yep, you guessed it, The Munsters
Since Beckett started this is appropriate.
I don’t like this media bs “ace” terminology. Sean O said an ace is the best pitcher of the team. So if the worst rotation in baseball’s best pitcher has let’s says 4.50 ERA, he’s an “ace”? Beckett isn’t the best pitcher on the team and won’t be, he wasn’t last year, and arguably the year before that. This whole “ace” thing is a creation of Francona (starting him opening night) and the media. Since coming to Boston, his stats haven’t dropped too dramatically (minus this year and 08). The media and some people might want to compare him to other “aces” which isn’t always fair. He is what he is. His stats overall year to year have been pretty good except for one year. Is an “ace”? No. Should we expect him to be an “ace”? No. Can he be a good pitcher when not injured? Yes. The extension he signed is another story.
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by BoldandBrash on Aug 14, 2010 2:32 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Minus this year and 06
"If I was being paid $30,000 dollars a year, the very least I could do was hit .400."- Ted Williams
I hate Hermida
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by BoldandBrash on Aug 14, 2010 2:33 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Beckett is useless
It’s time to finally come to grips with the fact this guy is past his prime and only getting worse. You’ve seen what he’s capable of doing against good teams…..NOTHING. This guy is totally living off of his past and is only a name. Regardless of his 17 wins last year, he is starting to hit the down slope of his career. He no longer puts fear in the hearts of his apponents and, be honest, no Sox fan has the confidence we once had in him. A six run lead that he blew in less than two innings? Are you effing kidding me? He used to smell blood back in the day and be able to coast to the 8th inning. This loss was ALL on Beckett plain and simple. He has lost his status as a dominant stater in my book. Notice I didn’t say ’’ace’’. Unless, of course he’s pitching against Anaheim or Cleveland. And we have this guy for 4 more years?….YIPEEEEEE!!!!!!….So he’ll just keep getting older, more injury prone, and his velocity will continue to drop. Not to mention Lackey (the Mouth Breather) for 4 more years as well. And we even get Calvin Schiraldi reincarnated for another year too. Well, at least the Yankees and Rays lost. Just when we were in the process of righting the ship they pull this bullshit. Shameful and disgraceful anyway you want to look at it.
The blame (in order)
As you said:
1) Tito for leaving Beckett in so long. Yeah Beckett was horrible but he can’t really take himself out of the game
2) J.D Drew’s atrocious fielding (specifically off the VERY catch-able drive off the right field wall)
The Kalish and Lowrie plays were close calls, but more understandable
Lucky or cursed?
I don’t know whether to feel lucky that both TB and NY lost against junk teams or disappointed that this Sox team didn’t pick up a game and are just keeping my hopes alive long enough to make it thaaaat much more crushing when we’re mathematically eliminated riiiight before that last series vs. the Yanks @ Fenway.
Actually, it’s def the second one. When we desperately need a game or two towards the last couple weeks, these last few L’s are going to reeeealllly hurt. When we’re 4 back in the WC with 2 weeks to play we’ll be thinking about how it should be just a game or two.
I hate these kinds of losses, they make my stomach turn.
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Baseball limbo
Not in it and not out of it. F’ing annoying.
by cheekmeister on Aug 14, 2010 4:58 AM EDT up reply actions
And I really don’t see it getting that much better next season because of the money that we forked out for Beckett, Lackey, and Schiraldi,,,,I mean Papelbon.
frustrated minds must also think alike
already began an article going in that general direction…not sure exactly how it’ll end up, but that’s sorta the starting point anyway.
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We've simply made some choices and have had some bad luck
I’ve already mentioned the above pitchers, but let’s remember the Smoltz, Penny, and Gagne experiments that failed miserably. And I still don’t think Dice K was worth what we paid for him. As for bad luck, I still think we should have topped New York’s offer for Texiera and done a better job of trying to resign Bay. More bad luck could very well be in store with Youkilis. He’ll be a year older and coming off season ending surgery. How well will he keep up? Only time will tell. But let’s think back to Butch Hobson’s floating bone chips in his elbow and Nomar’s wrist injury.
Unless he's had some fantastic turnaround I've missed
(which is possible)
Bay has been no hell this year.
Galactus does as he pleases. Because Galactus is drunk.
Does someone wanna tell me where the @#$% Drugs Delaney is?
@#$%ing Twit: @blogtard
For the last time, there was no way we could've topped the Tex offer.
I know it was only 1mil more or something, but doesn’t mean we would have been able to top the counter offer. Don’t tell me there wouldn’t have been a counter offer.
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by BoldandBrash on Aug 14, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions
yes for real
it’s not like we made an offer, he said “well NY offered me $1 million more” and we said “NO! THAT’S THAT LIMIT!”.
The situation was we made an offer, he went to NY and they said “here’s an extra $1 million, for show,” and he said “yeah I’m not coming to Boston”
I can't even say it with a straight face,
“Wait ’till next year!”
by papoonforpresident on Aug 14, 2010 10:44 AM EDT reply actions
Wakefield only threw one pitch?
That means he’ll be available tonight!
Galactus does as he pleases. Because Galactus is drunk.
Does someone wanna tell me where the @#$% Drugs Delaney is?
@#$%ing Twit: @blogtard
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by bucimislover on Aug 14, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Blame Game
Where’s Sean O when I need him? Pitchers are stubborn, but from the sounds of the game last night (been doing the olde-tyme AM radio lately), Beckett had been throwing garbage all night. Everything he had was hittable and he falls back to his fastball which won’t work in the AL as all hitters, esp. a good team like the Rangers, sit and wait for it. I swear if I was the pitching coach, I’d beat his ass; with a pitching machine set for all fastballs and see how he likes it. Beckett is far from from done from a talent and athletic level, it’s just that he’s got a stupid stubborn streak that needs a change.
Don’t get me started on the bullpen. We all know it’s been mediocre this year. I felt REALLY REALLY bad for Wake. I had flashbacks of the 2003 ALCS Game 7 and I bet the poor guy did too.
Tito: Learn to manage and stop being overly loyal with pitchers. They are the ones that need a shorter leash than hitters; Beckett should have been gone a lot earlier. After 4 IPs, he was done.
I will say this however, the heat down there, can turn even the weakest hitter into a masher. I know from personal experience through local co-ed softball, I’m freaking locked and loaded when it’s hot as an oven. Other days, the ball simply doesn’t have that kick and go as much, simply because the ball isn’t hot enough. Law of physics for the win (or lose depending on how you look at it).
Bottom line: Beckett needs to stop grooving FBs down the heart of the plate cause when a rookie knows what’s coming, you’re sucking hardcore but are too bloody stupid and macho to admit it. Man up to your stupidity Beckett because that’s the ONLY problem here with you. You’re not hurt, you have the skills, you’re just being a tard.
Oh and Papelbon, you're just like Beckett
Don’t be a stubborn ass (and I mean like the animal cause they are).
That's a compliment?
Galactus does as he pleases. Because Galactus is drunk.
Does someone wanna tell me where the @#$% Drugs Delaney is?
@#$%ing Twit: @blogtard
This team is a reflection of Red Sox management. Management has a “don’t worry, be happy” attitude. Got a broken thumbtip, take 6 weeks off. Break some ribs, take a two month vacation to Arizona, come back in 2 months if you are up to it and we’ll let you waste another 2 weeks in prep/rehab. Not pitching well, take 2 months off, we’ll say you hurt your back. Now Ellsbury is back on the DL, what a bunch of BS. The bullpen has taken a lackadaisical attitude all year- win half, blow half, who cares? Where is the bullpen help we desparately needed by the trade deadline? Pickup a decent arm or two and maybe Tito doesn’t feel a need to leave Beckett in so long. Who sucked again by the way. Beckett has not been the same pitcher since late 2008. I do not understand giving him a 4 year extension at the start of this season. Beckett is now a #3 at best, probably more like a #4, and with his current stats more like a #5. So we have Lackey – getting #1 money – actually a #3-4. Beckett getting #1 money – probably a #4. Let’s not even talk about the fiasco of DiceK. And we are stuck with all these guys for many years. We are only at the beginning of this nightmare.
are you freaking serious?
you’re ridiculous. Completely absurd. Do you think they don’t want to win? You’re putting incorrect words in the management’s mouth. Sure, break a foot, take 6-8 weeks off. It’s not cuz they’re lazy, its cuz their damn foot is broken. It takes time to heal. Have you never broken a bone? Especially a core bone like a rib? It can be subject to re-injury for quite a while. Pedroia was forced by the doctors to take his injury easy because otherwise he would need to have a pin in it, which would be a season-ending issue and he would probably never be back to full speed.
Yes the bullpen has sucked, but your “lackadaisical” comment is ridiculous. It’s not a lack of caring. Which arms were available that you would have traded for and what would you have given up for them?
Also, Daisuke has been pretty good this year…
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