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Minor Lines 8/10/10: System Sweeps

Pawtucket W 6-5 (In 11)

Box Score

Josh Reddick: 1-6
Daniel Nava: 3-6, HR, K, A
Jarrod Saltalamacchia: 2-5, 2B, BB, K
-Clearly the performance that mandated his promotion! Or not.
Lars Anderson: 2-5, 2B, BB, K
Yamaico Navarro: 2-5, BB, SB
-Since starting out 0-5 in Triple-A, Navarro has gone 9-20 with two doubles, a homer, and a 3:2 BB:K. I, for one, approve.

Robert Coello: 1.1 IP, 2 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 1 BB, 1 K, 1 HR
Michael Bowden: 1.2 IP, 1 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 3 K
Robert Manuel: .1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 1 K

Not Rizzo's greatest night after the jump.

Star-divide



Portland W 6-3

Box Score

Che-Hsuan Lin: 2-4
Nate Spears: 2-4, HR
Luis Exposito: 1-4, 2B, PO
Anthony Rizzo: 1-4, 2 K
Ryan Lavarnway: 0-4, K

Jason Rice: 1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 1 K



Salem W 4-3 (In 10)

Box Score

Pete Hissey: 1-4, 3B, BB
Oscar Tejeda: 2-5, K, SB
Will Middlebrooks: 0-3, 2 K
Alex Hassan: 1-3, 2B, BB
Ryan Dent: 2-4

Cesar Cabral: 3 IP, 4 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 2 K
-Ground ball, ground ball, bloop brings in a run. But odd to see him stretched out so much.



Greenville W 4-1

Box Score

Derrik Gibson: 2-2, 2 BB, POCS, E
Jeremy Hazelbaker: 1-3, 2B, BB, SB, E
Reymond Fuentes: 0-4, 2 K
Ken Roque: 1-3, K

Manny Rivera: 6 IP, 4 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 8 K



Lowell W 5-2

Look at what team isn't sucking of late.

Box Score

Jose Iglesias: 3-4, 2B, CS
Miles Head: 1-4, K
Brandon Jacobs: 1-4, HR
Bryce Brentz: 2-4, 2B
David Renfroe: 2-4, HR, K, E

Madison Younginer: 6 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 1 K



GCL Red Sox W 14-0

Box Score

Adalberto Ibarra: 1-2, BB
-Can't imagine he stays here long now that he's finally playing.
Keury De La Cruz: 1-4, 2 BB, 2 K, POCS
Henry Ramos: 3-5, 2B, HR, SB
Oscar Perez: 2-5, E



DSL Red Sox W 7-6 (In 10)

Box Score

Xander Bogaerts: 3-6, K
- 8-23, 2B, 3 BB, 3 K since last time.

Yunior Ortega: 4 IP, 8 H, 6 R, 3 ER, 1 BB, 3 K, 1 HR

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More BABIP Regression for Reddick

But once again, no Ks, just hit balls that landed in a mitt. If he’s still making contact, I’m still likin’ it.

Not enjoying the Pawtucket relievers though.

"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.

by Rogue Nine on Aug 11, 2010 12:05 PM EDT reply actions  

I mean on a smaller scale, over the season he’s been unlucky but from July 30th-Aug 7th he went 16/33 with 3HR, 0 BB and 0 K, a .433 BABIP, that wasn’t going to continue either.

"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.

by Rogue Nine on Aug 11, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd be all for promoting Salty based purely on that

on the theory that hey, he might suck horribly, but there’s a good chance that it still might be better than Cash.

Actually, I don’t even need that performance to justify it. I’d take him over Cash based purely on the fact that he owns catcher’s gear, sight unseen.

by wolf9309 on Aug 11, 2010 12:25 PM EDT reply actions  

NNNNAAAVVVVVA

and where in the world is Hermida gonna play in Pawtuckt? For God’s sake, they are already putting people on the TIA, whcih I never heard of until now.

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by bestbostonsports on Aug 11, 2010 12:27 PM EDT reply actions  

i think his primary position will be

sitting and seeing if someone decides to trade for him last minute (since he did clear waivers). Maybe DH once Delgado’s gone, if that’s before the Pawtucket season is over.

by wolf9309 on Aug 11, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

But

Ryan Shealy is the DH

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by bestbostonsports on Aug 11, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes but while there is a prayer of Hermida looking pretty good in AAA and some team trading something (anything) for him in the offseason

there is not for Shealy. Neither one is relevant this year for Boston or going to be around next year, so it’s otherwise pretty much a wash. More to gain from Hermida for Boston (and for Pawtucket, as Hermida at least has some name recognition value that may get people a little more excited for a couple of games)

by wolf9309 on Aug 11, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

what about

Bates? Will he be back by Monday?

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by bestbostonsports on Aug 11, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

He hasn’t given us any reason to worry about him so far.

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by Rogue Nine on Aug 11, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tampa Bay down 3-1 in the 9th.

I’ll go ahead and say tonight is a must win, to gain some ground, if Tampa loses.

by RockEmSoxEm on Aug 11, 2010 4:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Agreed

We got Dice out of the way so who knows what happens tonight.

"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.

by Rogue Nine on Aug 11, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tampa loses 3-2

LETS GET EM TONIGHT BUCH!!!!!!!

by RockEmSoxEm on Aug 11, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

And Lee going against Vasquez...

We should absolutely gain ground tonight. Lets hope for the best.

by RockEmSoxEm on Aug 11, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

aaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnndddddd Hall get’s the start at 2B instead of Lowrie. Seriously, if the kid can’t play back to back, put him back on the DL so we don’t have to go through this every night.

All I want to see is Lowrie and Kalish play on the same nights, is that so hard to ask?

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by Rogue Nine on Aug 11, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

More bullshit excuses from Francona

Hey says Lowrie is gonna play SS tomorrw, so he doesn’t want to get him too tired. Seriously, baseball isn’t that tough. If he can’t play 2 or 3 games in a row, he definitely shouldn’t be playing at all. If it’s THAT bad, he should be just doing absolutely nothing. I don’t buy this.

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by BoldandBrash on Aug 11, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

watch the afternoon game tomorrow

oh except hall will still be at second.

by wolf9309 on Aug 11, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

from Peter Abraham:
Jed Lowrie is out of the lineup because they want to get as many righthanded hitters in there against the lefty tomorrow. Lowrie has yet to start three games in a row since he came back.

Um ok, wanting to get righthanded hitters in against a lefty I can understand. But if Lowrie is playing shortstop instead of Scutaro, then it’s the same number of right handed hitters against the lefty. Unless of course, he changed his mind and decided Scutaro will start tomorrow and is putting Hall in for one of the outfielders. I’m sure McDonald will be in for Ellsbury. This sounds ridiculous. But I’ll withold my anger and judgment about that until I actually see tomorrow’s lineup.

by wolf9309 on Aug 11, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh

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by bestbostonsports on Aug 11, 2010 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I'm not understanding the hate here.

We have a bunch of fragile players an Hall isn’t that bad.

by alskor on Aug 11, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

We should try and stick with one lineup.

I’m not really understanding this fragile thing. Sitting Kalish against lefties for Hall doesn’t make much sense, and I can’t believe Lowrie is in such bad shape that he can’t play 2-3 games in a row. This isn’t football; we don’t need Lowrie to put back on the pounds that he lost so he can be our running back. I agree that Hall isn’t bad, let’s just get a set lineup.

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by BoldandBrash on Aug 11, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Where is Lowrie??? >:(

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by bestbostonsports on Aug 11, 2010 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

This

Hall isn’t the worst alternative, but we have players that are better than him at positions he plays. If we have Kalish and Lowrie, they should both be playing ahead of him.

"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.

by Rogue Nine on Aug 11, 2010 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess...

full disclosure – Hall’s HR reminded me of my post.

I don’t have a problem with the mixing and matching… we have some injury problems and we have some players with limitations in their game. I realize its not aesthetically pleasing for the fans, but I think its probably the best for the ballclub, especially in terms of getting everyone ABs to keep them going. If I were Tito I would be very concerned about keeping guys fresh, too. Then again, I think Tito is probably the best manager in the game. Rarely does he make a move I disagree with it, and when he does I understand what he was thinking.

I’m also not sure Kalish or Lowrie are better options than Hall. If they are, it isn’t by much. Hall’s swing has been reworked and he’s closer to the 2006 version. I think the proper thing to do is keep him going by using him as a super sub.

As to Lowrie’s health… I don’t know that any of us really has the inside scoop on him, but I doubt Tito or the team is exaggerating his health concerns…

Also, other than CF – where he’s overexposed, Hall’s defense doesn’t bother me. I think he’s perfect as the Mark McLemore on the 01 Mariners super sub role. A little power, a little speed, a 10% BB rate and a little defense. He does have 14 HRs, btw. I actually really hope we can get him back next year, but we’ll have to agree early because we can’t offer him arb (we’d be guaranteeing him like $8mm). The way he’s playing he’s probably convinced some team to give him a shot to start again, actually. I bet the Mariners still wish they had him back – He’d be leading the M’s in HRs… by 4! (ignoring park effects…)

by alskor on Aug 11, 2010 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I concur with this

I’ve consistently said that Hall bothers me a lot less at 2B than in the outfield – he especially looks overmatched in CF.

He has had some highly visible goofs at 2B that people notice – me too – but I know that overall he’s doing OK there. And yesterday he legitimately had a great day defensively as well as at the plate.

I agree with the Mark McLemore comparison (I watched MM starting way back in Baltimore – man did he carve out a long career. A real nice guy – still very popular in Baltimore after all these years.). Hall is probably not as good a fielder as MM (I’d have to check -that’s just my subjective memory there), but Hall has a lot more pop in his bat.

The substitutions that drive me nuts are not with Hall. They are the use of Patterson and Hermida for so long – thank gawd Hermida is now gone. Those guys were hurting the team in a bad way. Yes, I understand about who has options and how retaining Patterson is all about preserving assets. But from a play-on-the-field perspective, putting Patterson out there over other options (i.e. Nava) has literally hurt this team in real, measurable ways.

Obviously, having to use Cash, Brown & Molina hurt us even more so – those guys were far worse than probably just having our pitchers bat. But THOSE substitutions were very clear cut. Because of injuries to Wagner, et al, we literally had no other options.

by mmmmm on Aug 12, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

And Nava just plain continues to hit.

Career in the minors .340 / .433 /.533 (1271 PAs, all levels)
In Pawtucket, 2010: .300/.378/.476 (304 PAs)
In Boston, 2010: .290/.383/.452 (107 PAs)

Do we need any more proof this guy can hit?

by mmmmm on Aug 11, 2010 6:35 PM EDT reply actions  

We're not worried about signing draft picks yet, are we?

They’re all over slot, longer negotiation usually nets a better deal for the prospect, league approval, yada-yada-yada, right?

Wait 'til next/this year?
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by nuthinboutnuthin on Aug 12, 2010 1:48 AM EDT reply actions  

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