MLB Trade Deadline Open Thread
by Ben Buchanan on Jul 31, 2010 12:05 PM EDT
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So far so quiet on deadline day. The Pirates picked up Chris Snyder, of all teams, and there's some stuff floating around about the Cardinals and Jake Westbrook, but that's about it.
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LOL, the season is over...
Not yet. if we win the next two and the Yankees do too, we are only 4.5 out.
We do need a bullpen pitcher though.
I proposed this deal at Minor League Ball: Wieland and Reddick for Downs?
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 31, 2010 11:43 AM EDT reply actions
Wieland and Reddick aren’t worth the picks Downs could get if he’s type A (I think he is)
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by BoldandBrash on Jul 31, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Looks like we may have to settle for youth in the pen
Bowden and Doubront coming up?…oh and the Rays got Chad Qualls and his 8+ ERA
Yeah, I wanted nothing to do with Qualls.
No issue with Bowden and Doubront, but the Sox are gonna look real bad if they dont make a move.
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 31, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Why?
What’s “looking bad?” and does it really matter if you do what’s right given the circumstances.
I think she means that all the pink hat fans are gonna throw a temper tantrum.
Everyone is gonna blame this season on Theo and not making a big move.
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by BoldandBrash on Jul 31, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
And his 3.84 xFIP
.434 BABIPs just don’t happen. Our infield could’ve made him legitimately valuable again.
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by Ben Buchanan on Jul 31, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Theo better tell Tito to get these guys some work.
Tito only used these guys when he absolutely had to, and then they got sent down. We really didn’t get to see what they could do.
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by BoldandBrash on Jul 31, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Ludwick to the Padres?
Does anyone else think it’s interesting that two 1st place teams are talking? I wonder what SD would give up..
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SD has tons of relief pitching.
The Cardinals haven’t given up many runs, but they may realize it’s not exactly sustainable, necessarily, and could use some shoring up.
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by Ben Buchanan on Jul 31, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
It sounds like such a good deal for both teams,
pending the moving parts
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by BoldandBrash on Jul 31, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
wow, Sox coulda got him
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 31, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
For those lamenting inactivity, the Red Sox ARE making moves:
Dustin Pedroia for Eric Patterson – who wouldn’t make that deal?
Jason Varitek for Kevin Cash – plus offense; minus defense.
Michael Bowden for one of the dirties (Atchison or Ramram? see below. Lowrie could also go back down to AAA.)
Felix Doubront for another dirty or Lowrie.
Jacoby Ellsbury for Jeremy Hermida or Darnell McDonald.
As for today, ESPN said they are shopping Ramram to NL teams.
Berkman to the Yanks
Don’t know how I feel about this. Why are the Asros picking up so much salary?
by brogshan on Jul 31, 2010 1:36 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Because they're the Yankees
sarcasm Its not as if they can afford Berkman sarcasm
Jim Edmonds 'till I die.
Dude is still one of the best hitting CFers in the game and has somehow dropped a higher WAR than JD this year although I do not put a ton of faith in WAR.
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Joey Mac reports via twitter
“Red Sox reliever Ramon Ramirez is walking off the field during BP accompanied by trainers.” wonder if he is hurt or if hes out of beantown
by beantownbeamer34 on Jul 31, 2010 2:47 PM EDT reply actions
He got hit by a ball.
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by Frederick0220 on Jul 31, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
oh too bad
I was wishing a deal got done
by beantownbeamer34 on Jul 31, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Atlanta is interested in Ells.
Nothing will happen, though. His value is low,and what would we get from ATL?
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Cafardo says Kalish and Richardson heading to Fenway.
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I assume because RamRam got a line drive in the face.
Really complaining about new bullpen blood?
I love Lester and Pedroia!!! ITS MAN LOVE!
Because Richardson is useless when there is even just one guy on base. I’d take Bowden AND/OR Robert Manuel.
Most likely Bowden will be moved up anyway
They said bowden and Dubrount will fill our need of the bullpen
by beantownbeamer34 on Jul 31, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
They will be up soon enough I am sure.
Along with Doubront.
I love Lester and Pedroia!!! ITS MAN LOVE!
boner jamz '10
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by Frederick0220 on Jul 31, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Yanks apparently are still looking for trades
according to buster……hopefully nothing else big, but then again how much worse can it get
by beantownbeamer34 on Jul 31, 2010 3:04 PM EDT reply actions
More sources are confirming the Kalish call up.
Apparently the Braves/Ells talks are more than just a rumor.
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Any news on what the sox would get in return?
by beantownbeamer34 on Jul 31, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
No
I have to go out, so I won’t be able to give anymore news.
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by BoldandBrash on Jul 31, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
+3
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by Frederick0220 on Jul 31, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
good
"If I was being paid $30,000 dollars a year, the very least I could do was hit .400."- Ted Williams
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by BoldandBrash on Jul 31, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
and again
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by Frederick0220 on Jul 31, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
YES !!! I think Ells is getting dealt yes !!! yes !!! yes !!!
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If ells gets traded i doubt its for bullpen
rumor has it the braves are looking for another arm
by beantownbeamer34 on Jul 31, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
there has been no reason for the network to mention them whatsoever
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Pre-Deadline Active Roster
P: Atchsion, Bard, Beckett, Buchholz, Delcarmen, Lackey, Lester, Dice-K, Okajima, Papelbon, Ramirez, Wake
C: Martinez, Cash
IF: Beltre, Hall, Lowrie, Ortiz, Scutaro, Youk
OF: Cameron, Drew, Hermida, McDonald, Patterson
It’ll be interesting to see the Post-Deadline version
what kind of speed does Kalish have?
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Above-average
So he’s no Ellsbury or Crawford, but he uses it very well.
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by Ben Buchanan on Jul 31, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
what kinda of power and how patient is he at the plate
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Not Ellsbury/Westy but above average.
25 SB to 2 CS this year.
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So we will be quiet this deadline? no rumors except Ells?
by German Red Sox Fan on Jul 31, 2010 3:48 PM EDT reply actions
yep, nothin doing at all
Bowden/Doubront are gonna be the pen guys we needed to trade for
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Kalish batting 8th.
I gotta say, I’m a little worried this is rushed. But he hasn’t shown much of a hiccup in Pawtucket, so we’ll see.
I just fear he’ll be the guy who never slumped type. Sure, he had the broken wrist that screwed him up and the BABIP issues to start the year, but I can’t remember him really getting into an honest-to-God slump in the middle of an assignment.
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Do we get an indepth Analysis of the Sox Deadline later Ben?
by German Red Sox Fan on Jul 31, 2010 3:55 PM EDT reply actions
how can you go in depth on nothing
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you can analyse why we havent done nothing
by German Red Sox Fan on Jul 31, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
because we have no money to spend and are probably out of it
but it will be disguised as not wanting to overpay
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Because the market for what we need really sucked
Got to figure that the amrs who would have made a difference – Nunez, Downs, etc were too expensive
We should have sold on Beltre/Martinez/Papelbon
this was awful to do nothing. Awful.
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I disagree
But I don’t think anything I could say would convince you otherwise.
DFA Beckett
by South Coast Ghost on Jul 31, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
if we were not good enough to get pieces to improve, then selling was the best option
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It's not like we saw any significant 3B moved
Or catchers, really, besides Snyder
DFA Beckett
by South Coast Ghost on Jul 31, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
perhaps borring but not awful
we get healthy we get better
by beantownbeamer34 on Jul 31, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
the season will be over when we are healthy
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I'm thinking they want to keep at least one of Beltre/V-mart
And the other will go for picks, which may or may not be better than what people may or may not have been offering
DFA Beckett
by South Coast Ghost on Jul 31, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I do not think we will be able to re-sign Martinez or Beltre
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Vic would be uber-valuable.
Catcher = +++++
Good hitter = +++++
Draft picks = +++++
Probably couldn’t get anything close.
Ramon Ramirez dealt to the Giants
Despite being the only one of the terrible trio that actually improved as the year went on.
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Rick Ankiel and Farnsworth
DFA Beckett
by South Coast Ghost on Jul 31, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
How would you get rid of them?
And use different derogative terms.
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by Ben Buchanan on Jul 31, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
you should do one of those PSA's Ben
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Keep Ramirez and Delcarmen is worth something decent, Okajima probably to the NL.
Give us Sean Marshall
!!!
Delcarmen is worth nothing decent right now.
Okajima will never be worth anything to anyone ever again.
USG
by Ben Buchanan on Jul 31, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Dodgers acquire Dotel for James McDonald and Lambo.
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That seems steep
Is Dotel controllable past this year?
DFA Beckett
by South Coast Ghost on Jul 31, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
1 year/$3.5M (2010), plus 2011 club option.
Well they are the Dodgers. They gave away Carlos Santana for Casey Blake.
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what a terrible message to send to the guys on this team
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that we would not improve the team
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But we did
Replacing Hermida with Kalish improves our team
DFA Beckett
by South Coast Ghost on Jul 31, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
they did not view this team as capable of winning
or a deal would have been made
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I did not realize that them going for it
Would involve overpaying for average relievers.
DFA Beckett
by South Coast Ghost on Jul 31, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
well I predict a gigantic tailspin now from this team, far worse than was happening prior to today
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by the time he's back we will be 14 back
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No! 90 back, be realistic Sandy.
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Dotel alone would make up more than half those games.
That guy’s gotta be worth 50-60 games.
DFA Beckett
by South Coast Ghost on Jul 31, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Because we're all-but-giving-up on the season.
It’s not a terrible message. It’s a realistic one.
Is it a terrible message for the Royals to deal Ankiel and Farnsworth?
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by Ben Buchanan on Jul 31, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Really
The marginal improvements that the Kerry Woods, Dotels, etc of the world would have made really were probably not worth it
wood would have been a nice addition
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It's Ok guys, he's just drunk
The chance of Wood pitching lights out for the rest of the year, is the same as if MDC or Ramram pitched lights out till the end of the season.
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by BoldandBrash on Jul 31, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
No message...
…that involves the words “Jeremy Hermida is gone” is terrible. It’s like “but you get ice cream,” or “but you’re stuck with Meggan Fox.”
Wait 'til next/this year?
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by nuthinboutnuthin on Jul 31, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hermida DFA?
wtf? No, he hasn’t been great this season but we have seen his numbers drop largely because of the rib injury. He at least had some upside and some pop in the bat, on top of that hes still only 26. I know some of you don’t value “clutch” at bats, but he put up some great ones earlier in the season. Why not dump Eric Patterson (assuming this is to clear space for Kalish), Lowrie is back with Hall to back him up in the IF and we still have McDonald.
I just don’t get it.
Hermida is the worst player on this team.
He was already shitty before the rib injury. He was awful after too. He has no plate discipline, can’t play ANY position even remotely well, and can’t even run the basepaths.
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by Ben Buchanan on Jul 31, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
And no, he doesn't have upside. It's over.
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by Ben Buchanan on Jul 31, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
You would rather have Patterson?
He’s versatile and has some speed…I’m not sure hes anything more than a AAAA player. Hermida has proven in years past that he can hit ML pitching in a weak Marlins lineup. I’m not saying I love the guy, but of the two i’d take Hermida any day.
Patterson has done a decent job…still, its a very small sample size.
I would rather have Patterson. He can pinch run.
Jeremy Hermida has shown he can do nothing this year.
USG
by Ben Buchanan on Jul 31, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
It was kinda fun...
…when Beltre injured him.
Wait 'til next/this year?
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by nuthinboutnuthin on Jul 31, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Hermida was mediocre even before the rib injury
Walk-off hits don’t hide that fact.
DFA Beckett
by South Coast Ghost on Jul 31, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Red Sox made trade with Rangers
2 Minor Leaguers, cash, PTBNL to Texas. Not sure of return.
Roman Mendez may have been dealt too.
USG
Meh year in Triple-A so far.
The Sox will see if they can make him into a legitimate hitter.
USG
by Ben Buchanan on Jul 31, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
For Mendez and McGuinness and a PTBNL or cash
DFA Beckett
by South Coast Ghost on Jul 31, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
ugh a catcher?
I liked Mendez a lot
by beantownbeamer34 on Jul 31, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Salty is better than Molina
Mendez has a big arm, but can’t spot it, can’t move it, and only has the one plus pitch. decent deal.
He's having trouble with newfound velocity.
And his Slider is a good pitch too.
USG
by Ben Buchanan on Jul 31, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
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