Game 103: Tigers (51-50) @ Red Sox (58-44) -- July 30, 2010
by Ben Buchanan on Jul 30, 2010 7:04 PM EDT
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The Red Sox seem to have caught the Tigers at the right time. Good news, given that we can't afford to lose right now.
That shouldn't--shouldn't be an issue tonight, as Jon Lester will take the mound for the Red Sox.
The Tigers will send out he who was actually robbed of a perfect game, Armando Galarraga. It's hardly been a perfect season for Armando.
You'd think after his last start, Lester might get a reprieve from Eric Patterson. No such lucky, as the man who can't play baseball is in left field tonight, opposite the other man who can't play baseball who's filling in for the still-aching Drew.
Go Sox!
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Hermida in right, Patt in left
We are fucked
"If I was being paid $30,000 dollars a year, the very least I could do was hit .400."- Ted Williams
I hate Hermida
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Still no Drew in the lineup.....
Hope it isn’t serious we can’t afford to lose another impact bat.
Looks like the Soxs were inquiring about Jim Edmonds as well, that might mean Drew is hurt, but we don’t want to DL him before the deadline so we don’t appear desperate and overpay.
Or, like myself
They prefer him off the bench compared to Patterson/Hermida
DFA Beckett
by South Coast Ghost on Jul 30, 2010 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
That's another reasonable option, but personally I like Nava off the bench more than trading anything for Edmonds.
Also if he plays well it could build trade value for Nava, Edmonds is 40 years old and has been hurt.
Imagine an outfield with both Edmonds AND Ells?
best catches/worst jumps in the history of baseball! No matter what, it would be uhm, exciting.
by RyanBeingManny on Jul 30, 2010 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I just want to say as this game starts that I would rather see Nava in LF instead of Suckerson.
by Fenway302 on Jul 30, 2010 7:13 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
WtF? I hope Lester doesn’t have a let down tonight.
by Fenway302 on Jul 30, 2010 7:16 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I was out smoking and didn't see it either, unfortunately.
Thats just what I hear. Here’s hoping Lester settles down
by RyanBeingManny on Jul 30, 2010 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Lester just didn't want to have to worry about Patterson or Hermida blowing a no-no for him.
So he got it out of his mind. He’ll settle down now.
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2-0 MFY
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ugh.
or wait. Thats a good thing. ha. weird.
by RyanBeingManny on Jul 30, 2010 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Wouldn’t three consecutive ties be nice!?
by Fenway302 on Jul 30, 2010 7:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Wouldn't a meteor hitting the Trop be nice?
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by Tessie's Dad on Jul 30, 2010 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Lowrie doesn't have HR power, but he doesn't swing and miss by 3 feet.
and I think he’s a much better defender
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I agree, and to be honest you don't need HR power if you can hit doubles like a madman with RISP.
I’d rather have someone who constantly produces, than a guy who hits a solo run HR every once in a blue moon.
that's my point
sorry, Hall
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by BoldandBrash on Jul 30, 2010 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions
play suck at more positions
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by BoldandBrash on Jul 30, 2010 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions
He's not bad for a replacement,
but his defense is awful. Ben ranked him as a 15 on the 20-80 scale, and I think I might agree.
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by BoldandBrash on Jul 30, 2010 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Hall gets a bad rap I think for all he has done this year
Its theos fault, not his that he is in that position. But I think Jed is a significant upgrade at 2b
by RyanBeingManny on Jul 30, 2010 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree on both points. Regardless Hall is better than Patterson overall.
by Fenway302 on Jul 30, 2010 7:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Hermida is hitting .206 and Patterson .216. How can you win games with that (lack) of production from not one but TWO guys in your lineup? Nava was hitting around .280 and he gets sent down. I don’t get it!
by Fenway302 on Jul 30, 2010 7:29 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
patterson can play CF
and we need the backup for Cameron. Unfortunate, but the right call. Even though these guys are BUMS. I hope Ells gets back early next week
by RyanBeingManny on Jul 30, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Woah, woah woah.
Patterson can play CF, but not at a major league level. Dmac is so much better than him, but he’s still not great.
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by BoldandBrash on Jul 30, 2010 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Darnell is the better option. I wonder why he rarely plays anymore. At least OF is his natural position. If nothing else could he not be trade bait if showcased?
by Fenway302 on Jul 30, 2010 7:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't get it either.
Nava had an option, so he could go down without waivers. However, I don’t buy that shit. Nava is better now, and he could actually build some value.
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by BoldandBrash on Jul 30, 2010 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Why is Papi swinging at bad pitches again?
by Fenway302 on Jul 30, 2010 7:34 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
At least Galaraga seems wild
Lets get Lester some support
At least Beltre can't GIDP
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Time for Belter to stick us on the board.
I’m feeling optimistic. 3 run double off the wall.
He's gonna DH, I guess
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by BoldandBrash on Jul 30, 2010 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions
So how is Hermida gonna K in his first AB tonight?
swinging? or looking?
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I am so freakin sick of the bases being left loaded!!! Beltre for some reason can’t get a hit in that situation. Dammit!!!
by Fenway302 on Jul 30, 2010 7:40 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Not exactly off the monster.
Hey, at least we made him pitch. Sooner or later we’re going to stop leaving the bases loaded, right?
Yeah. Next inning.
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by Tessie's Dad on Jul 30, 2010 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Peralta's excited to be a Tiger, I see...
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Well, thats not what i wanted to see.
Is that his first at bat for Det?
yup
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by Tessie's Dad on Jul 30, 2010 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Doesn’t Lester know that with this lineup he has to do much better?
by Fenway302 on Jul 30, 2010 7:44 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Maybe he knows that however hard he tries won't make a difference.
[see Lester’s last start]
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by Tessie's Dad on Jul 30, 2010 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Lester looks like shit
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Lester looks vulnerable, We leave the bases loaded, and I'm with you mugs on a friday night
Today is not going the way it should, damnit!
(kidding!)
though now my power cord is acting up and not giving a charge. ugh.
by RyanBeingManny on Jul 30, 2010 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Lester is going to strike out 12
but leave in the 5th down 6-1
who the heck are all these new people on my blog
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I've been here a couple of weeks.
Do I still count as new?
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by Tessie's Dad on Jul 30, 2010 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Umm...
Making snide comments about under-performing Red Sox players?
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by Tessie's Dad on Jul 30, 2010 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Hermida doesn't catch that
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where are my students of the game?
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here
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by BoldandBrash on Jul 30, 2010 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions
alright, did everyone else stop coming?
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the west coast messed everyone up,
and tonight is Friday
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by BoldandBrash on Jul 30, 2010 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I refused to participate during west coast games
and still think we should sell, it’s the right thing to do.
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I think we should explore the option of selling,
but not sell at all costs. I also think we could buy and sell if the players we are buying are under contract and fit in with the future.
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by BoldandBrash on Jul 30, 2010 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd trade Beltre, Papelbon, and Martinez
and these spare parts if possible:
MDC
Ram Ram
Lowell
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Who do we get for 3B? Who's the new setup guy?
I guess Iannetta would be the new catcher.
Trading these guys if the return is right (Beltre is type A and will get 2 picks if we lose him) isn’t a bad option. There isn’t one route that sticks out as being the one, and there are so many options.
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by BoldandBrash on Jul 30, 2010 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Let Lowrie/Hall play 3B till season’s over
Let Bowden set up Bard till the season is over
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I'm talking about next season
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by BoldandBrash on Jul 30, 2010 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Who play's 1B?
Lemme guess… Dunn
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by BoldandBrash on Jul 30, 2010 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know much about the game
But I like the colors of the hat, and I saw Ortiz in the derby. Dang gumit I do love me some homers
by RyanBeingManny on Jul 30, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I think I missed the application deadline.
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by Tessie's Dad on Jul 30, 2010 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Oswalt is getting knocked around
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Here's the plan
Hermida K
Cam get on base
Patt get on base
Scoot get on base
Lowrie GS
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I second the motion.
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by Tessie's Dad on Jul 30, 2010 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Hermida didn't strike out!
That’s progress!
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Well, Fenway guess we were both wrong.
He didn’t K!Is that more or less productive?
No production is still no production.
by Fenway302 on Jul 30, 2010 7:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Now would be a good time for one of Patterson’s random triples.
by Fenway302 on Jul 30, 2010 7:54 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Do I understand this right
the Ray Necks have NEVER sold out a 3 game series since they came into the league!?!?
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Really? Not even with NY down there?
God that fan base is a joke.
by RyanBeingManny on Jul 30, 2010 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions
this 3 game series is the first time ever
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Teams don't sell out if they arn't winning (if there isn't baseball history in the area).
Up until recently they didn’t have much of a product to sell to people.
but you would think the first year they existed the place would have sold out on a regular basis
if there was interest?
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Ahh, The Rays never really caught fire in the area.
Bad job of scouting the area, I mean look at the stadium they settled for…..I’ve been there a number of times, that place is horrible.
I guess they're supposedly getting a new one
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by BoldandBrash on Jul 30, 2010 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
They were threatening to leave the area if they didn't.
I’d still find it hard to go to Soxs games there, not because of the stadium or location, but because of the douche Rays fans.
I don’t want to pay good money and drive 3 hours to listen to loud cowbells all night.
or that POS mascot
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by BoldandBrash on Jul 30, 2010 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions
That's one of the stories
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by BoldandBrash on Jul 30, 2010 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
The Red Sox have idiot fans, but at least they care about baseball. The Rays fans just want to go to the park and be douche bags.
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by BoldandBrash on Jul 30, 2010 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
if it was not for me everyone here is a douche bag
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Then why did they put a team there?
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by BoldandBrash on Jul 30, 2010 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions
so it can be moved in the next 3 years to a real sports town
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No idea, maybe they thought they would draw the Orlando crowd, Pt Pete and Tampa.
People will drive over from Orlando for concerts…..but not baseball.
Concerts?
I’m guessing Alan Jackson, Tim McGraw, Travis tritt?
by 415SoxFan on Jul 30, 2010 8:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Tampa/St Pete's denizens are all wannabe actors.
trying to get the lead roll on episodes of ‘Cops’
by 415SoxFan on Jul 30, 2010 8:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Anyone know who this guy is pitching in Lester’s jersey?
by Fenway302 on Jul 30, 2010 8:06 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Lester, Lester
wherefore art thou, Lester?
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Here's where we don't gain any ground when TB loses.
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bad team rally song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO43p2Wqc08
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Nice hit by Vmart
I thought that was gone off the bat.
just make contact, Hermida
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careful there
if he makes contact, he’ll probably GIDP.
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by Tessie's Dad on Jul 30, 2010 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions
but a run will score
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by BoldandBrash on Jul 30, 2010 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions
not if he hits into a 1-2-3 DP
but now the point is moot
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by Tessie's Dad on Jul 30, 2010 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
duh. my bad
for some reason I though the bases were loaded.
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by Tessie's Dad on Jul 30, 2010 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I've been calling for that since he got injured, but Theo brings him back.
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by BoldandBrash on Jul 30, 2010 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Why now?
We can just sign him later
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by BoldandBrash on Jul 30, 2010 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions
You could play better LF than Dunn
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by BoldandBrash on Jul 30, 2010 8:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
but I can't hit or get on base like him
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If you agree that we should sell,
then getting Dunn now doesn’t really make a difference. We can just get him in he winter because he will likely be pricey now.
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by BoldandBrash on Jul 30, 2010 8:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
but if we are not going to sell is my point
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If we're not going to sell,
Then I sure as hell don’t want to buy in the wrong situation (this is the wrong situation).
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by BoldandBrash on Jul 30, 2010 9:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
1st and 3rd, no out and nobody scores
This team is a fucking joke.
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Miguel Cabrera is my favorite non Red Sox player
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Jeebus. I get up to refresh my drink,
and Peralta scorches another one. It’s a sign. I need to quit drinking. Or drink more. Yeah; that’s it — drink more.
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The Astros are picking up a lot of the money owed to Berkman and won't obtain top prospects in return, according to ESPN.com's Buster Olney.
The Astros will pay $4MM of the $7.5MM Berkman will make between his salary and the buyout, according to Sherman
Both off MLBtrade
That kind of pisses me off.
I'd have liked to see the Yankees give up a little bit more.
It looked like a sallary dump for Astros, but if they are paying a large chunk of his salary/buyout, I’d have liked to see the Yankees give up some decent prospects.
he has negative value
so no big deal
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Guess you would rather have Eric Patterson then this?
16.8% BB rate
.198 ISO
1.9 WAR
.382 wOBA versus RHP
Id take Patterson over Berkman
if for nothing else the salary difference ha
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I like him more than Patterson or Berkman, but......
I’d rather up just play Nava as the 4th outfielder, try to build trade value for him, and save prospects.
So you are saying
that for 3.5 million dollars and a grade B prospect you wouldnt take Berkman? Looks like the owner cheaped out again..ie Mark Teixeira deal
Yes, exactly what I'm saying
Berkman is overpaid at what the Astros are not paying in the deal.
I don’t want any part of the guy.
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I'm laughing at you, literally -WTH are we going to do with Berkman on this team?
we have a DH and a 1B, and Lowell at rehab. Tell me how we had any spot for Berkman and better yet why I’d be upset we did not get him?
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Im sure he could still play a better outfield then patterson
even though its been 3 years since hes played. My main point anyway was that he isnt negative value,especially to the yankees. Since he will probably only face righties
The rec league players are Hermida, Patt, Brown, Cash, and sometimes Hall and NavAAA. I’m really tired of watching these guys play
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by BoldandBrash on Jul 30, 2010 8:47 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
hi folks
Great one very glad to see you!
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Deadline wish list:
Farnsworth
Dunn
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If you’re gonna rent Dunn, then rent Werth. He’s a right handed bat and is a real OFer
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by BoldandBrash on Jul 30, 2010 9:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Whatever
We shouldn’t be buying anyone but releivers, and that market is bad, so…
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by BoldandBrash on Jul 30, 2010 9:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Downs!!!
I hear they only want our entire farm system
We always need bullpen help. But let’s not forget that our outfield is crap. Tito and Theo would never admit it but Herm/Patt/Hall as OFers must turn their stomachs. Yes Ells is back soon but the guy has player 9 MLB games this year. We don’t know what we will get. Plus Cameron is hurt and Drew too. We need a solid OF with a bat as much as a reliever. We have to get leads before a good reliever matters.
by Fenway302 on Jul 30, 2010 9:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
There are FAs to be had and then there’s Kalish, in terms of next year’s OF. If we were gonna get a guy this year, then we should have gotten DDJ or Weth weeks ago.
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by BoldandBrash on Jul 30, 2010 9:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That's the thing if we are going after outfield help, why wasn't it done weeks ago before our offense took a crap.
To get an outfielder now for a few weeks before Ells comes back doesn’t make sense.
The prices were very high, and it’s probably good that we did nothing. Kalish is cheap and controlled for years. He’s too valuable given the current state of the OF
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by BoldandBrash on Jul 30, 2010 9:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Joyce is good
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by BoldandBrash on Jul 30, 2010 9:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
official motto of the 2010 Red Sox?
"If your happiness depends on Boston winning or losing, you have to get a life." Manny Somebody-or-other
by Tessie's Dad on Jul 30, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I have a real hard time staying positive about this team when I see innings like that.
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by Tessie's Dad on Jul 30, 2010 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
watching MFY - Rays.... we really cant beat this guys with our current lineup
Hoping to became a Stud!
MFY are getting Kearns
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by BoldandBrash on Jul 30, 2010 9:32 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I just got home, I was wondering what happened as well.
When life gives you questions, Google has answers.
Theo should have got Kerns weeks ago
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Are you talking about Austin Kearns ?
Yankees are close to getting him.
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yes, we should have tried to get him weeks back
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you knew it was coming though
I bet we make zero moves tomorrow besides releasing Lowell
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If it wasn’t for the injuries this team could have been a lot better.
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by BoldandBrash on Jul 30, 2010 9:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
coulsa woulda shoulda
thats why we should sell
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No move is better than a bad move,
but I would like to see our playes actually get shopped. It’s too late for that now.
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by BoldandBrash on Jul 30, 2010 9:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
no move is not better than selling
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So we should trade Beltre for a lousy player at all costs instead of getting the two picks in a loaded draft?
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by BoldandBrash on Jul 30, 2010 9:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Notice how I said
bad move
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by BoldandBrash on Jul 30, 2010 9:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
If this was a bridge year... we shouldve got Dunn, Downs and Ramos/Suzuki weeks ago...
Hoping to became a Stud!
and we would be absolutely screwed 2-3 years from now.
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by BoldandBrash on Jul 30, 2010 9:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Those players might suck,
and the Yankees might get the ones we want. Youkilis, Buchholz, and Lester all had thebopportunity to be traded earlier in their careers. It’s no guarantee these guys ever make it in the bigs, but you can’t go and throw away the future.
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by BoldandBrash on Jul 30, 2010 9:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Bogar working at 3B for the tigers tonight?
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Rays win.
:-P
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fuck it, let's catch them both.
it’ll be sweet to turn it on and steal a division like the Yanks have time and time again.
I can't stand Patterson, useless.
At least hermida drove in a bunch of runs in May and seemed to get some huge hits vs. the Yanks.
that's 3 more weeks. I can't take more than 3 weeks of patterson.
Why the hell is he playing ahead of DMAC? With Lowrie, we don’ t need Pattersons 2B abilities around anymore. Hell, put NavAAAA back on the team.
Hermida
Patterson is as good as gone, but Hermida will stick around. At least Cash has a good arm. Hall has some power though no hand-eye corrdination
Wow!
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Riding shotgun on the Julius Pruitt Bandwagon
Unofficial Phinsider DJ
Those two runs Wakefield gave up are looking particularly huge right now.
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I doubt we win but
Ortiz grand slams make me smile, always…
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i do not like Valverde / Beltre matchup
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I wish Drew could pinch hit next
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You get your wish!
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by Tessie's Dad on Jul 30, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
LIKE SERIOUSLY! WHAT THE FUCK!
I come home to this? Lester sucking?
I love Lester and Pedroia!!! ITS MAN LOVE!
I like Mike Cameron
But I think I’ve seen this show before
DFA Beckett
by South Coast Ghost on Jul 30, 2010 10:59 PM EDT reply actions
Can't believe they're letting Valverde throw this many pitches
DFA Beckett
by South Coast Ghost on Jul 30, 2010 11:00 PM EDT reply actions
Well, he won't be available tomorrow
That’s for true
DFA Beckett
by South Coast Ghost on Jul 30, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
The Dirty's cost us another game....
Thanks for nothing this year Theo !!
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Theo is really killing us. We need/needed to give Bowden/Manuel/Richardson a real shot. He should’ve told Tito to get them in the games, and them he sends then all down, and brings back Hermida. WTF
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by BoldandBrash on Jul 30, 2010 11:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
agree
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 30, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
You got to blame the offense here.
They did jack shit for 8 1/3. How was anyone supposed to know they’d wake up in the bottom of the 9th with one out? It wasn’t even close, it was 6-1. If you’re going to blame Wake for giving up 2 when we were already losing 4-1 with no signs of life from the offense, blame Lester for giving up the first 4.
Just because they're losing doesn't excuse giving up runs.
Nobody wants to put too much blame on Lester because he ha been great all year. This is more of a frustration blame because the bullpen has once again significantly contributed to a loss.
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by BoldandBrash on Jul 30, 2010 11:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think Lester was more of a contribution tonight
Or rather, more than the bullpen, defense had just as much responsibility as well.
It happens, sometimes it’s not the bullpen’s fault we lose, it’s the starter’s, even great ones like Lester.
DFA Beckett
by South Coast Ghost on Jul 30, 2010 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
He hasn't been great all year...
he started off terrible, or “slow” if you want to be PC. Lester gave up 4 runs (two HRs to Peralta mind you) and Wake gave up 2. We were never in the lead, so both contributed to the loss.
I’m not so enamored with Lester that I’m going to pass the buck onto someone else, especially when the offense had given him 1 run of support. He’s a great pitcher, I’m glad he’s on the team, and he’s due an off night from time to time, but to blame the bullpen in a game we weren’t in into the bottom of the 9th is using hindsight.
I’m not blaming it all on Wake specifically, but he, Theo, and Tito have really screwed up the pen. See in my comment below: Why is Wake on the team?
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by BoldandBrash on Jul 30, 2010 11:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He can’t be great every game. He put up some ridiculous numbers in the first half. It’s hard to do that in the AL
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by BoldandBrash on Jul 30, 2010 11:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That was the worst loss of the season
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Disagree
Remember that game in April (or was it early May?) against Tampa? Extra innings, at home, Sox get the bases loaded with no outs and don’t score. THAT was the worst. This is second-worst.
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by Tessie's Dad on Jul 30, 2010 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
That was way worse
God, that felt like death
DFA Beckett
by South Coast Ghost on Jul 30, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
worst loss
was Papelbon surrendering HR to Thames
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 30, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I think adding a competent OFer and an upgrade in the bullpen
Would make us respectable.
DFA Beckett
by South Coast Ghost on Jul 30, 2010 11:07 PM EDT reply actions
Nava is competent
We don’t know if Bowden/Rich/Manuel are any good because they never forms good chance. Again, WTF
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by BoldandBrash on Jul 30, 2010 11:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
got a good chance
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by BoldandBrash on Jul 30, 2010 11:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I agree about Bowden/Manuel
I dunno, Rich seemed okay, but nothing special while he was up.
DFA Beckett
by South Coast Ghost on Jul 30, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
How much did he pitch? I’m not saying he’s special, but MILB to MLB isn’t usually a seamless transition.
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by BoldandBrash on Jul 30, 2010 11:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Only 7 innings
So not a good enough sample size, obviously. But he’s only been okay the few times I saw him down in Pawtucket. Walking too many people
DFA Beckett
by South Coast Ghost on Jul 30, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I miss Nava
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 30, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
If Wake hadn’t given up 2 runs, one on a wild pitch…Sox win 5-4.
by Fenway302 on Jul 30, 2010 11:22 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Lester is to blame also, but why is Wake even on the team anymore? I get that he’s the long reliever, but Atch did a pretty good job with that. We can’t have Wake taking Bowden or Manuel’s spot.
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by BoldandBrash on Jul 30, 2010 11:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You got me...
I keep expecting the knuckleball to regain it’s magic but it isn’t happening and may never again. My guess, is down 3 runs that late in the game with the offense doing nothing, Tito took a chance to try and preserve the more “reliable” relievers for the rest of the series.
I would figure if it was a game Tito thought we’d win he would’ve used someone else. But the bullpen itself and his handling of it has been so schizophrenic and awful I could just be grasping at straws.
YES!
You get my point. I’m not saying we should have used Bard there. I’m saying that the bullpen entity has been awful all year. The bad play of the pitchers, Theo’s decisions, and Tito’s decisions have all contributed to this mess. Wake himself isn’t to blame; the bullpen itself is and events that led to Wake even possibly being in that situation.
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by BoldandBrash on Jul 30, 2010 11:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
More pampering of the tinks (Ellsbury and now Drew) by management, along with a relatively poor start by Lester and a typical poor showing by the bullpen, has resulted in yet another loss. As stated a couple weeks ago, apparently our prima donna tinks cannot play until they are 125% and by that time the Sox will be so far out the playoff picture that it won’t matter. Actually, I think we reached that point tonight.
Lowrie is clutch!!!!
Youk’s getting the free walk…come on Papi!!!
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