Red Sox Have Relievers On The Mind As Deadline Approaches
The Red Sox have had one glaring weakness all year long: the bullpen. Even before spring training, it was clear that if there were going to be issues, that's where they'd be (baseless offensive naysaying aside). Theo Epstein had forgone signing relievers to big or even mid-range contracts, relying instead on whoever he could find in minor league deals and hoping for some sort of resurgence from the members of last year's pen who had come up empty at the end of the year.
So far, that grand plan has provided Scott Atchison, and a back-end of the pen in Ramon Ramirez, Manny Delcarmen, and Hideki Okajima--all of whom are even worse then they were at the end of 2009. If the Red Sox are to make a playoff push, there's no debating that they'll have to pick up help there. And if the rumors are to be believed, they've been leaving no stone unturned in their search for better arms.
Now, the veracity of said rumors aside, there's quite a few interesting names. From the bewildering (Trevor Hoffman) to the untouchable (Joakim Soria), the Red Sox have plenty of names in mind. Let's take a look at the options the Sox have been linked to, however unlikely or undesirable.
David Aardsma: Remember how the Red Sox had this guy? Then traded him to Seattle where he ended up closing in exchange for Fabian Williamson, who would eventually wind up as Eric Patterson? Man, this is the trade that keeps on taking! Really, though, nothing has changed about Aardsma. Big strikeouts and big walks. He's not as good as he was last year, but he's not as bad as he is this year either. Aardsma wouldn't be a bad addition to the club, but if the M's are looking for compensation for 2009 Aardsma, that should be an easy one to pass on.
Joe Beimel: Big results from bad peripherals. The Sox aren't exactly likely to bite on Beimel and his 13:8 K:BB ratio.
Rafael Betancourt: The Rockies are in about the same position as the Red Sox in the playoff race, and it would be pretty bizarre to see one of them as a seller and the other a buyer in the situation, but if so, Betancourt is a great target. He's got a high 4.86 ERA, but that's primarily from a .378 BABIP, while he's putting up ridiculous strikeout and walk numbers. The only issue would be trusting a huge flyball pitcher in Fenway park, but even with the homers the rest of the package is fantastic. With Betancourt under contract in 2011, however, it's all a matter of whether the Rockies buy into his runs or his peripherals.
Craig Breslow: Breslow is a lot like Betancourt with his impressive peripherals but high fly ball rate, just not as good and with the added issue of dealing with Billy Beane. If Betancourt is available, there's no need for Breslow. If not, he's worth looking into.
Matt Capps: Man, he'd sure be great, huh? Who saw this kind of comeback season coming? What's that? The Twins? Oh well, moving on.
Scott Downs: While perhaps the most attractive of the bunch, both as a lefty spotting a 2.34 ERA (bye Okajima) and as a Type-A free agent, Downs has had a very high price tag attached to him by Toronto, with Casey Kelly or Jose Iglesias being the kind of impact talent they're looking for. If you think the Red Sox are about to give up that level of talent, even for a Type-A, you haven't been paying attention since Theo Epstein took over the front office. Unless the price tag comes dramatically down, the chances of this happening are very low.
Kyle Farnsworth: Statistically, Farnsworth looks like a personally passable reliever. But just remembering him blowing up under the bright spotlights of Yankees stadium has to give anyone pause. He's got his walk rate and fly balls under control, but whether that will make it through to a full Fenway Park is anyone's guess. Farnsworth also shares Kerry Wood's advantage of being close to Type-B status, but the same caveats of the arbitration process apply here as well. Farnsworth will also likely cost more between his club option and the fact that he's not currently sucking for the Royals.
Mike Gonzalez: He's had great numbers in past years, but picking up next year's $6 million contract on a guy who's pitched all of five innings this year and has had a litany of injuries throughout his career is a pretty big risk. Unless things have changed suddenly, high risk is just not Theo Epstein's strategy.
Trevor Hoffman: The Hoff says no, and Boston can be thankful for that, quite frankly.
Sean Marshall: Marshall is having a monster breakout season, with practically everything you look for in a reliever. But he's got two more years of arbitration, so the cost will be high if the Cubs are even in a "sell high" mindset. If they're not, he'll be nigh-untouchable.
Will Ohman: The only thing to really like about Ohman is that he'll likely come relatively cheap. For a marginal upgrade, Ohman could do the LOOGY job better than Okajima. But he's not what the Sox really need.
Rafael Perez: Another example of big results, little peripherals, Perez is much more his horrible 2009 self than the strong reliever we saw in 2007 and 2008-the only thing he has going for him is a high ground ball.. There's no reason to expect he won't start showing his true colors the second he shows up here.
Joakim Soria: Possibly the one reliever who would have the biggest impact for the Sox, Soria's name can be crossed pretty quickly off the list thanks to their place on his no-trade list, to say nothing of the massive price.
Kerry Wood: Wood has gotten a lot of talk, but on the surface doesn't make a lot of sense. He would be cheap, yes, but there's a reason for that. It starts with a 6.30 ERA, continues with a 4.95 BB/9, and finishes with the blister on his throwing hand. Sure, he throws hard and wasn't that bad in June, but he's already given up three walks in just over two innings this month. And the Red Sox should get him. Why? Because at worst he's just as bad as Okajima, and at best he's his blister-free June self who builds his value enough to become a Type-B free agent. The Sox might be reticent to offer him arbitration unless they expect he wants to close or they see a big salary drop based on his crap performance of late. But that's always just their option, since there's no way his option vests. With a price south of "free," why not take a shot?
Michael Wuertz: Wuertz has had his issues this year, likely the result of a shoulder injury. But as Athletics Nation will tell you, he's doing just fine now. And Billy Beane knows it-thus why he won't be dealing Wuertz on the cheap anytime soon.
Unnamed Padres Reliever X: There's been some buzz about the Red Sox dealing some of their excess outfielders for relief pitching from the stacked Padres pen. While the Padres certainly have too many relief pitchers to make it wise to simply hold onto all of them (you can only have so many bullpen innings, after all), to see them trade any of their impressive-and largely team controlled arsenal for some fourth outfielder would be pretty surprising. The Padres may well be where the Sox will find the deal they need, but they'll probably have to cough up more than just a backup.
5.5 games out of the Wild Card, the Red Sox are not out of the race yet, but they've certainly got their work cut out for them. With Theo Epstein always being extremely protective of his farm system assets, don't expect the Sox to be dealing any top names for relief help, no matter their Elias status or how long they're under team control. Still, they have to make some move, because there's no way they're going anywhere without help.
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The Twins traded Wilson Ramos for Matt Capps
I know they have Mauer and all, but still…seems expensive for a relief guy, even a potential closer.
DFA Beckett
by South Coast Ghost on Jul 30, 2010 9:07 AM EDT reply actions
Mauer makes him perfectly expendable
I mean, where is he going to play? They had a big need and filled it with a piece that has been blocked from participating in the major leagues, good prospect, just not a lot of value for them.
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I understand that completely
I dunno, still just seems like they didn’t really get as good of value as they could’ve for him. Ramos is a bit overrated in my eyes, but it still seems like a better deal for the Nationals than the Twins, but that’s what happens when you’re competing.
Relief market prices still seem a bit too steep, was what I was trying to get at.
DFA Beckett
by South Coast Ghost on Jul 30, 2010 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh the market definiely is rediculous
Luckily the Twins had a prospect that people wanted that they didn’t have room for so they didn’t mind giving him up.
Unfortunately, our top prospects all have places on this team in the future, we can always use another starter and the OF is going to need Kalish in a year here and Iglesias is showing in AA that he has what it takes to be a ML SS. So, at this point, if the prices don’t come down as the deadline approaches, it’s starting to look like no major change is going to happen here, because we just don’t want to mortgage our future for a damned RP.
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I think there are still options out there
But lower-tier options. Ben mentioned some of them like Beimel, Ohman, and Wood, they would all come cheaply, but they have obvious warts. All the good options are costing an arm and a leg. In the end, this could be a very quiet trade deadline for the Sox.
DFA Beckett
by South Coast Ghost on Jul 30, 2010 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh, and I bet LAA's Fuentes is in play
He’s very expensive, but you wouldn’t have to give up much if you ate that contract.
Of course, he’s not exactly great, but I’d take him over Ohman.
DFA Beckett
by South Coast Ghost on Jul 30, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Fuentes
I don’t think the Angels are giving up on the season, and they shouldn’t. They are not trading Fuentes.
They've got Pineiro out for the rest of the year and a below-average offense
It’s not a fire sale, no, but why wouldn’t they trade away Fuentes when they’re most likely not going to compete? He’s not living up to his contract and he’s not going to finish enough games to get his 2011 to activate. He’ll be a FA at the end of the year I believe. I think I read their GM say they would be selling all pieces they won’t need for 2011.
DFA Beckett
by South Coast Ghost on Jul 30, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Angels
The Angels have been trying to stay in it by getting Haren, almost Lee and they have been mentioned in the Dunn rumors, but they are continuing to fade and may go from active buyer/contender to seller in a matter of days here.
I think getting swept by us pushes them to the potential sellers side of things
Haren’s controlled beyond this year, so he was supposed to help both this year and next. But with Pineiro out, they already traded away their pitching depth for Callapso, and their offense is poor anyway.
I don’t see them competing, but they have a series against Rangers starting today, so I suppose it could happen. Fuentes would probably pass through waivers so maybe an early August deal is more appropriate.
DFA Beckett
by South Coast Ghost on Jul 30, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Fuentes is also a compensation player...
… Type B, as of 7-26 – so added value to good numbers against left-handed hitters.
Wait 'til next/this year?
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by nuthinboutnuthin on Jul 30, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Sean Marshall is as close to a long-term fix as is realistically available. Possibly even worth a Felix Dorbont and a piece of fodder.
Marshall would probably cost more than that
Doubront, while close to major league ready (but not there yet), isn’t exactly a blue-chip prospect
This is unrelated to relievers, and wouldn't happen at the deadline.
There really isn’t any way we could go in terms of 3B that is a no brainer. Giving Beltre a long expensive contract isn’t optimal considering his track record (I know he was in safeco, but still). This sounds kinda crazy, but I was wondering if we might trade for Berkman this winter and move Youk to 3B, which would result in a stopgap until we can explore other options in the future. I’m not advocating this move, nor do I think it’s likely; I’m just throwing it out there.
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Berkman isn't likely to play much longer at all
Since he’s talked about retiring, especially if he leaves Houston.
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by Ben Buchanan on Jul 30, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Chips are falling quickly
Oswalt to PHI
Tejeda to SD
Cantu to TEX
Capps to MIN
EJackson to CHW
Podsednik to LAD
Peralta to DET
Rizzo looks like a genius now with the Ramos trade.
I don’t know too much about Ramos or think much of him, but apparently everyone else does.
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by BoldandBrash on Jul 30, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
He'll be average
Or at least should be, although he’s having a bad year at AAA, he needs some more seasoning.
Considering the Nats probably aren’t competing until 2012 or so, it was a good trade for them. They picked up Capps for nothing and got a good catching prospect for him.
DFA Beckett
by South Coast Ghost on Jul 30, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Twins
Yes, everybody is slamming the Twins for giving up a top 100 prospect for a closer, but rember, the Twins have much invested in winnig over the next couple of years and needed to repalce Nathan at some point. They have close to a $100 mil. payroll this year with the Mauer contract and have Morneau through 2013 and Nathan through 2011 if he comes back from the surgery. I admire them for taking a shot to win now, even if the overpaid, they have to protect their investment in winning for this and the next couple of years.
I love that trade for the Twins
Give up a highly regarded catching prospect, a position in which you are pretty well set at right now with last year’s MVP, for a highly regarded reliever. Seems like the asking price is really high for good relief right now and most teams can’t do it, Ramos had much more value to the Nats than he did to the Twins at this point.
If our OF was Ellsbury, Drew and say Werth, it makes Kalish expendable and I would say the same thing, if Toronto wants Kalish, have him, we don’t have a spot for him. However that isn’t true and we WILL need Kalish sooner rather than later here.
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The way I see it...........
Theo will wait until Downs and maybe a couple of other pieces fall and then try to pick up something on the cheap at the last minute. Nobody here knows how Theo and the baseball ops team rates their prospects, but I don’t see them trading any highly regarded prospects for a bullpen rental. He didn’t do that in 2005 when they were absolutely desperate for a closer, and he didn’t make any moves in 2006 with all the injuries, essentially giving up on both of those seasons. Of course they followed up with a WS victory in 2007, so I guess it all worked out.
No contending team (Angels, Rockies, Padres, Braves,etc.) is likely to trade a decent reliever. The first place I look is the bad teams like the Royals, Pirates, Orioles, Mariners, Indians, Nationals, etc. The Nationals already unloaded Capps. Is Dotel on anybody’s list? haven’t head much. I would take the shot on Farsworth as a 7th inning guy.
The Angels aren't contending.
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by BoldandBrash on Jul 30, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
No indeed...
… like I said, the prize for that series in Anaheim was still having a season.
Wait 'til next/this year?
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by nuthinboutnuthin on Jul 30, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Meek will probably be the next Pirates' closer
In the coming years? Yeah, sure, but probably not now.
DFA Beckett
by South Coast Ghost on Jul 30, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Soria
Soria would be great, but I believe the Royals are counting on him to be their closer for a while. I don’t see his contract cost as that out of line for a sucessfull closer, and he has had a few good years now. According to Cot’s, he has a very Royals-friendly contract since he is being paid $3mil this year and $4mil. next, with escalating team options ($6/8/8.75) for the next 3 years. Those are all team options. He would get more in arbitation most likely since he has had 42 saves in 2008, 30 in 2010 and will get 40+ this season; not bad $$ for a decent closer. He has the typical no-trade to the big spenders, Sox, Yankees, etc. because he can use that as leverage to get an option or two guaranteed.
He would be an excellent additon to the Sox bullpen for this and the next few years, they can afford him, and he would be extra leverage/insurance for the potential loss of Papplebon after 2011. I would love it, but the Royals would, and should want a couple of prospect gems for Soria.
I don't think they have any intention of moving him, regardless of package
for example, they reportedly had no interest in a package involving Jesus Montero for him. We’d probably be starting talks at Casey Kelly + a bunch. I just can’t see a deal happening, no way, no how.
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The fact the Twins gave up Ramos for Capps does not help the Ted Sox cause for Downs.
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 30, 2010 6:29 PM EDT reply actions
We apparently asked about Jim Edmonds
I actually like that option
DFA Beckett
by South Coast Ghost on Jul 30, 2010 6:37 PM EDT reply actions
meh
Berkman is more appealing
I know we don’t need him, but the Yankees trade for him and we go after Edmonds, and expect to contend?
Meh
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 30, 2010 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Why is Berkman more appealing?
For the cost, and considering our IF is essentially full and DH is occupied. please explain this to me.
DFA Beckett
by South Coast Ghost on Jul 30, 2010 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Waaaaay better player
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 30, 2010 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Is he?
Not for what we need he’s not. He doesn’t fit here, neither does Dunn.
DFA Beckett
by South Coast Ghost on Jul 30, 2010 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I said we dont need him
But that’s their big aqusition, and ours is Patterson?
I dont like that
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 30, 2010 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions
They had the space open since Nick Johnson went down
Then they, hey, improved their bench like we should do. With our players coming back, we don’t have room for him.
DFA Beckett
by South Coast Ghost on Jul 31, 2010 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions
He's not a way better player
if there’s no place to put him.
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is Berkman the way better player in that
he has been a much worse offensive player than Edmonds has been this year or in the sense that he’s been a worse defender than Edmonds?
He's better in that he's a "Bigger Star" than Edmonds
He’s a worse fit for our team
DFA Beckett
by South Coast Ghost on Jul 31, 2010 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions
red sox excess outfielders?
You have got to be kidding. They now have the worst outfield in baseball.
Beside the all time glass outfield of cameron, elsbury, and just disabled drew, they have hermida who might right now be the worst hitter in all baseball. Now the Yankees get an outfielder they probably DON’t need who is better than any red sox OF. Its the outfield’s total lack of offense that has killed the sox all year a lot more consistently than the blown saves.
Austin Kearns is better than any of our current OFers?
Pull the other one…
DFA Beckett
by South Coast Ghost on Jul 31, 2010 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions

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