Minor Lines 7/22/10: Salem Sea Dogs?
by Ben Buchanan on Jul 23, 2010 1:50 PM EDT
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PrintPawtucket W 5-4
Ryan Kalish: 2-4, SB
Daniel Nava: 2-3, HR, 2 BB
Mike Lowell: 1-5, K
Lars Anderson: 1-4, BB, K
Aaron Bates: 0-4, 3 K
Mark Wagner: 0-4 ,2 K
Robert Manuel: 3 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 2 BB, 3 K
-Gotta imagine he could've done better than MDC
Tony looks very much like his old self after the jump.
Portland W 9-1
Box Score
As the Salem imports begin to look like their old selves, the Sea Dogs are starting to look like the old Salem Sox.
Che-Hsuan Lin: 1-4, BB, K
Nate Spears: 1-2, HR, 2 BB, K
-To hell with it. I've been resisting putting Nate Spears on for a while now because he's a 25-year-old having a breakout season (actually, I shouldn't say that, as he kind of had that breakout season in 2007 with the Cubs' Double-A team). BUt at this point he's hard to ignore. A middle infielder (maybe 3B in the future) who has double digit longballs contributing to a .162 ISO, walks more than he strikes out (about 18% rate for both), and is putting up an OPS over .800 despite a BABIP 20 points below his career average? Sign me up, I guess. Separating this 'cause of just how lengthy it is.
Luis Exposito: 2-5, K
Anthony Rizzo: 2-3, 2 BB
-Tony is also starting to look like old Tony discipline wise too now. That had been the most disappointing part of his season so far to me.
Yamaico Navarro: 2-4, BB, SB, CS
Ryan Lavarnway: 3-5, 2B, 2 K
-He still hasn't gone long yet in Double-A, but this is fast becoming ridiculous. His worst game so far was going 1-4 with a strikeout on July 18.
Alex Wilson: 5.2 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 3 K
-Soxprospects reports have him dropping velocity late in games, which combined with his two-pitch repertoire really make him seem like a late relief type. Not necessarily a bad thing, though. God knows we could use another good reliever on the cheap. Wilson-to-Bard anyone?
Salem W 5-1
Pete Hissey: 1-4, K
Oscar Tejeda: 2-3, BB
Tim Federowicz: 0-4, K
Jason Place: 0-4, 2 K
Ryan Dent: 0-3, K
Stolmy Pimentel: 7 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 7 K, 1 HR
-Couple of very good games in a row for Stolmy. A lot of flyouts of late, though, which is not necessarily the norm for him.
Greenville W 3-1
Derrik Gibson: 1-3
Chris McGuiness: 0-3, BB, K
Shannon Wilkerson: 1-4, 2B
Michael Almanzar: 1-4
Kendal Volz: 6 IP, 6 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 5 K
-After giving up six of his eight walks in a four game span, Volz has rattled off 28 free pass free innings. Maybe Volz - Wilson - Bard?
Lowell L 3-4
Box Score
Because it wouldn't be minor lines without a Lowell loss.
Bryce Brentz: 2-5, K
Miles Head: 1-4, E
Brandon Jacobs: 2-3, 2B, BB, A
-Jacobs has himself an arm, it seems.
David Renfroe: 1-4, HR, K
GCL Red Sox W 4-1
Keury De La Cruz: 3-4, 2B
-Much needed.
Jose Vinicio: 0-4, 2 K
Henry Ramos: 3-4, 2B, K, SB, CS
-Unless I'm mistaken, that is a straight steal of home.
Ken Roque: 1-3, K
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Pawtucket sure is happy to have Nava back
As far as Manuel, he was optioned down on the 16th. Gotta think he’ll be back up before the month is through. Maybe someone is will to take a flyer on Ramirez or Delcarmen in exchange for some AAA depth? Maybe that’s the player to be named later in this Hannahan thing… probably not but I can dream.
and MLB is too good for Patterson
surely we can get rid of at least ONE of those two guys?
Though I'm still not sold on Nava as a major leaguer
Sure, his bat is great, no questions, but I’d like to see if that defense can’t be improved a smidge.
A fair criticism...
… on the other hand, I think Hermida has as many questions about him as Nava does.
Wait 'til next/this year?
"Laser show. So relax."
by nuthinboutnuthin on Jul 23, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
disagree
I think he has more. The difference is I hope that Nava can get a bit more seasoning in the minors and become a 4th outfielder that we can actually look forward to seeing on the field whereas with Hermida, I just hope that somebody else will take him.
Touche'
+1
Wait 'til next/this year?
"Laser show. So relax."
by nuthinboutnuthin on Jul 23, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I feel like I've been going on a lot about Nava's defense lately
but it’s because I like him a lot and really hope he can make that step and be decent all-around. Hermida, I leave alone for the most part, because I think he sucks, and most everyone here thinks he sucks.
Someone mentioned...
…that Hermida skipped AAA ball entirely with the Marlins. It may be that he actually needs more seasoning too. However, at this point I’m not sure a further developmental investment would be warranted for him.
Wait 'til next/this year?
"Laser show. So relax."
by nuthinboutnuthin on Jul 23, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah seasoning is all well and good when they're a minor league player just added to the 40 man
when they’re making 3.345 million and approaching their last arbitration year, it’s time to perform or sit down.
actually, the if I'm reading his history right
he’s only used up one option year. But you don’t send a player making that much money down to the minors.
If Nava were a CF or RF, I'd be more concerned about his defense
but as a LF (and not likely to ever be asked to be a CF) I have far less concern about his defense than you do.
Some of his mistakes this year were clearly rookie mistakes. Its not like he came here with a rep as a slow clumsy outfielder with brick hands and a noodle arm. Physically, he’s got the tools to be at least adequate at covering LF and his arm strength is actually fairly good. He’s a smart, hard-working player and I don’t have any doubt that he would improve in Fenway – good enough to provide more than adequate defense.
But most important : he is obviously a true natural hitter. He is someone who will always hit with discipline, for average and with some power. And he’s shown this at EVERY level of pro baseball now. That, to me, means he belongs in the majors. And he’s a switch hitter, no less!
His arm is good, agreed
I’m still worried about defense in left. I’m also, personally, viewing him as a 4th outfielder, not a full-time starter, in which case, it would be nice if he’d be able to play right from time to time (Unless I’m wrong, I believe that’s mostly what he’s played in AAA anyways). But see my comments above, I do think he has potential, I’m not saying drop him or anything, obviously he’s good, I’d just rather see him working out defensive kinks in AAA than in the majors instead of trying to learn in the midst of a pennant race. I think he’ll develop better that way. No one here has questioned his bat.
in the midst of a pennant race
I would prefer to have players who can actually hit, as opposed to Patterson & Hermida & Hall.
None of those guys has notable OF defense that really sticks out as any better than Nava’s and they all suck by comparison to Nava at hitting.
well
I completely disagree about the defense. McDonald and Patterson both stand out to me as much better defenders than Nava from what I’ve seen of them all (admittedly, that’s not a lot of patterson, I haven’t been to any games yet he’s been in).
He’s a better offensive player than either, yes. Though if Francona is platooningMcDonald and Hermida, that’s not offensively terrible (well the Hermida part is but his career numbers don’t look remotely as bad as his year numbers, I wouldn’t expect him to last 2 more weeks if he can’t start looking better at the plate). Nava’s also been atrocious against lefties- he’d be a good platoon partner with McDonald, but I really do think he’s better off now that he’s seen the majors, taking the lessons he’s learned and working on his issues in the minors for a few weeks, then coming up in september.
He specifically doesn't mention McDonald
And Patterson is kinda awful in the field.
USG
by Ben Buchanan on Jul 23, 2010 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I gotta admit
I reread the subject that line to make sure. You just kind of assume…
USG
by Ben Buchanan on Jul 23, 2010 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions
OF futures
Between Kalish, Reddick, Nava, Lin …and don’t forget Westmoreland, should he be able to fully recover.
Sure – maybe not all will pan out. But right now they all look to have major-league potential.
In theory, we could be fielding a full OF including bench of guys all making minimum salary in a couple of years…
God I really hope Westmoreland fully recovers to realize all the promise that he had before the surgery. It would be such a shame otherwise.
Wilson to Bard makes me happy
Geez, why is Wagner still considered a prospect?
And I miss Nava still
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