Jason Varitek Hits Disabled List With Broken Foot
by Ben Buchanan on Jul 2, 2010 5:53 AM EDT
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According to a report from WBZ, Jason Varitek has a broken foot, and will be joining starting catcher Victor Martinez on the disabled list for up to six weeks. This coming as the Red Sox acquired Kevin Cash in a trade with the Astros, sending them Triple-A infielder Angel Sanchez--a move which suddenly makes a lot more sense.
Varitek's injury comes at the end of an unreal week for the Red Sox that has seen Dustin Pedroia, Victor Martinez, Manny Delcarmen, and now Jason Varitek hit the disabled list. Clay Buchholz just dodged an injury stint when he hurt his knee running to second base against the Giants, and Mike Lowell was shut down just a few days before the rest.
The injury comes at a particularly bad time as the Red Sox' AAA depth in Dusty Brown and Mark Wagner are both on the disabled list themselves. Luis Exposito has not performed well enough at Double-A to earn the promotion, and potential high-level depth Adalberto Ibarra only just made it to Boston months after signing with the team thanks to visa issues
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omfg are you for real? What the F is going on with Boston players? Is it bad staff or just shit outta luck for the players? I think its both along with a shitty 3rd base coach. What do you guys think?
by Lets go boston lets go on Jul 2, 2010 6:26 AM EDT reply actions
…Staff has nothing to do with broken bones (which is what most of our injuries are), unless they are in fact beating our players with bats after games.
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The AS Break can't come soon enough
"Man you are one pathetic loser. No offense." - Lloyd Christmas
by Lloyd Christmas on Jul 2, 2010 7:19 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Need
the all star month. or some type of winter olympics break for 3 weeks.
Whoever said it doesn't matter whether you win or lose, probably lost.
by David Harnden on Jul 2, 2010 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions
At some point, Theo has to consider selling off the season.
And yes, -I know what the standings show. I’d say next week determines the season, the games against Toronto and TB are very important. If we can win those series and go into the ASB with some life then still proceed as normal, but if we get swept in both those series, or only win one or two game I think Theo has to look into cutting his losses on this season. I’m sure we could get a nice return for some of our guys who are not hurt specifically Beltre.
I’m well aware the bashers are coming out on me after this post, and that’s fine.
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We only win one or two
And chances are we’re still only 3 or 4 out of the Wild Card with our best to come as our guys come off the DL.
USG
I do not see how we sustain through the injuries
at this rate, its been a lot of smoke and mirrors thus far.
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It hasn't been, though.
It’s been incredible play from guys like Beltre, Youkilis, Ortiz, Lester, Buchholz, etc. And, again, it’ll be basically impossible for us to drop out of contention within the week, and then we get the all-star break. After that, guys start coming back.
USG
Yeah, you might be right.
No matter what, It’s been a great story, they looked awful, and at times comical the first 5 weeks of the season, some of the worst baseball I’ve seen.
I guess the saving grace is what I was saying earlier, in that the amount of games played versus TB and MFY keep you in the race no matter what pretty much.
I would not however, be upset if Theo did sell off, but I’m sure the players would be very upset.
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*Crosses fingers*
The team still has the likes of Beltre, Ortiz, Youk, Lester, Buchholz, Bard, Scutaro. Not a great team by any means but not the Pirates or Astros when it comes to talent. Maintain, maintain, maintain…..that’s the motto for now. V-Mart will be back soon and Beckett is starting to throw…..
I think he has until the trade deadline to decide that
No bashing here – it is a fair question when looking at the current situation. We are in a world of hurt at the moment – pun intended.
1. However, I do not think we will be out of it at the break. I have to imagine they are wargaming several courses of actions currently that attempt to answer the question, “buy or sell by the deadline?”
2. This has been an incredible run and reflects the depth that Theo and Company have slowly brought to the organization.
3. You mention Beltre – do you think he will stay past this one year deal?
4. I also imagine the overall health of Beckett and Dice K determine the season more than the short term injuries that are killing us.
5. I think based on Pedroia’s determination he will return and be fine. Also, V-Mart is a tank so he should be fine too. And, I am hoping that Ells is healthy enough to come back soon.
6. So, if we address the bullpen and we gain a real utility fielder maybe we hang around and make the postseason.
7. I guess that is why Theo makes the big bucks – he pulls the plug too soon and they miss the postseason. He waits too long they miss the post season and the prospects we could have via a trade.
"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry, you know anything that travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?" - Crash Davis
1. Agree.
2. Agree – not only a credit to Theo for building the depth, but also to Francona for being able to juggle this crazy, moving roster.
3. I wish. I just can’t see why he wouldn’t go chasing big $$ after this. I’m sure we’d sign him if it isn’t crazy money. But his agent is Scott Boras. Need I say more?
4. I think we can afford to have one of those guys injured, but we need at least one of them (and the rest of the starters) to be healthy.
5. Concur on DP and VM. I’m not personally missing Ellsbury that much since we got Nava up.
6. Need bullpen help. We aren’t getting anybody back from the injury lists that is going to help this bullpen.
7. Yep. I don’t think we’ll be “pulling the plug” though.
I don't know
I don’t think we’re out of it even if we spend the next couple of weeks sucking because of all the injuries. I actually think that maybe aside from a bullpen arm, our roster remains exactly the same going into August.
We’re essentially making huge acquisitions for the team by taking guys off the disabled list going forward. When Beckett comes back (healthy please) we get a front of the rotation starter. When (if) Ellsbury comes back we get a starting outfielder. When Pedrioa and VMart come back we get two All-Star caliber players on the diamond. Tek and Lowrie will come back and give us great depth off of the bench.
Without guys like Beckett and Ellsbury we’ve been a VERY effective team. Going from bottom to just a couple games behind in the division. Imagine if they come back as effective as they usually are? Losing a few games now isn’t going to be the end of the world for us considering all we have to gain going forward as healthy players come back to us.
"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.
Lets see what happens leading up to the All-Star break and a couple of weeks after...
If we are still in it and winning or even treading water, along with getting healthier don’t blow it up, if we are losing and not getting healthier blow it up.
maybe watching LaserMan field grounders?
"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry, you know anything that travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?" - Crash Davis
Beltre stomped on his foot... on accident
I’ll wager any sort of money that this is true.
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2010 Sox = 2009 Mets???
The story for the Mets that basically turned their season from very promising to abismal at best within a month, was also injuries, and eerily similar to ours right now. I have a salty taste in my mouth. This sucks. The al east is hard enough….I really don’t know if its possible to stay around, realistically. Our lineup isn’t formidable enough. Kevin cash is awful offensively…
by RockEmSoxEm on Jul 2, 2010 8:54 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
No.
Even with all the injuries, we are still a better team than the 09 mets – probably a better team than they were when healthy.
We can still, at this moment, throw Lester, Lackey, Wakefield, Dice-K and (after a skip) Buchholz out there as starters. That alone makes us dangerous.
And even with all the injuries in the position players, we still have dangerous bats in the lineup in Youk, Ortiz, Beltre & Drew (plus Scut and Nava to provide OBP).
We are a definitely weaker in our batting order because we have to give too many ABs to guys like Cash, Hall & D-Mac. But its still an above-average offensive lineup.
Despite everything, our one big weakness continues to be mainly the middle-relief. We can continue to hide some of that if our starters continue to go long. But we are going to wear out Bard if we continue to keep sending him out there so much.
Good grief!
I couldn’t believe the news when I read it. The Sox just can’t stay healthy (just don’t say that we can’t catch a break). Our squad is a traveling M*A*S*H unit.
I do think that Beltre stays if he can agree to a 2-3 year deal. 2 years is what the Sox would like, but given that they’re negotiating with Boras, it’s going to take 3. There’s no reason we couldn’t make it work, but there are almost equal odds that another team will pony up more dough or more years.
"You know you're having a bad day when the fifth inning rolls around and they drag the warning track." - Mike Flanagan, Baltimore Orioles pitcher, 1992.
I fear we'll end up paying for his BABIP.
USG
by Ben Buchanan on Jul 2, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Which, by the way, is .385!
I suppose I’d rather Beltre price his way out of Boston and help us reach the playoffs than tank, adjusting his price, and have us miss the post-season.
"You know you're having a bad day when the fifth inning rolls around and they drag the warning track." - Mike Flanagan, Baltimore Orioles pitcher, 1992.
yeah - the BABIP is scary
but so are the rockets coming off his bat. Its hard to characterize his outrageous BABIP as entirely due to “luck”, when you see how that ball comes off his bat.
I know, intellectually, that some of it must be. But sheesh!
when is Wagner coming back?
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 2, 2010 10:30 AM EDT reply actions
Yeah
Billy Wagner!
"We're not going to give up," It doesn't happen, so who cares? There's always next year. It's not like it's the end of the world."-Manny Ramirez
No Mark Wagner.
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 2, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
a question
What is the story with Beckett, just taking half a year off?
They said lower back strain, its important to have a healthy back so they’re bringing him along slowly.
"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.
I guess. The timing of the injury did seem odd
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 2, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he’d been injured for a while and didn’t say anything and it finally hit him part way into the Yankees game that he really couldn’t pitch with it any longer.
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yeah this
he clearly hadn’t been pitching as beckett should. It seems more likely he was injured the whole time than it seems that he suddenly forgot to throw the ball.
Forgot about that. Thanks for the reminder and pleasant thoughts a fierce Beckett brings to mind.
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No clue
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 2, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Henny Pennies...
In all my years as a Red Sox fan, I have never given up before the All-Star Break. They don’t break your heart until September, remember?
We are fine. We’ve been climbing in the standings through this. I am confident we can play .500 ball or better for the next few weeks. Yeah there’s TB and Texas and the Angels, but there is also Oakland, Seattle, Detroit, and Baltimore. And Toronto is in a nose-dive.
this could really destroy the pitching staff
with him going down, and now having to look at someone who hasn’t caught the staff at all, it could really effect the pace of the game, and the outcome. I am a big believer in that the catcher really controls the tempo of the game.
could be a long 2 months until they get healthy
Kevin Cash is not an unfamiliar face, at least.
So it won’t be totally disruptive. He knows our system. The pitchers will probably do okay.
He’s just going to suck at the plate.
Our C position has been the most productive offensively by far in all of baseball. Now its going to suck.
Fortunately VMart will be back after about 10 more games or so. So the staff only has to get through two starts each.
C most productive in all of baseball,
I just checked the numbers and was surprised to see between the 2 they have 16 HR and 54 RBI
Mauer however is still the best
a lot of people do not see Olivo in Colorado and Paulino in FL having very good seasons
by Rickfansince76 on Jul 3, 2010 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions
redsox.mlb.com roster has 24 players listed right now.
Manuel takes Delcarmen’s spot, Cash takes Varitek’s spot and Romero gets the last spot open to make 25. I’ve lost track of who’s spot it was.
Pedroia, Varitek, VMart, and Delcarmen….
in the sense that there's a decent chance pedro might be there?
because probably all of our starters are injured suddenly and we had to sign everyone available?
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