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Thoughts about the Red Sox pitching: Jon Lester

The starters have been performing pretty well: They lead the AL in FIP and with the return of Clay Buchholz and Josh Beckett, I can see this trend continuing but let's dig into the numbers and see if we can find some interesting nuggets.

I'll start with the cream of the corp: Jon Lester.

The amazing thing about Lester is that he kept improving every year:

  • In 2008 he cut down the free passes: He went from a 4.43 BB/9 in 2007 to an outstanding 2.82 in 2008
  • In 2009, while keeping the same BB rate, he added the strikeouts as he went from a solid 6.5 K/9 to an elite 9.96
  • This year, he kept improving by adding the ground balls: His GB% is 51.8% Heck even his increased BB/9 this year is due to his horrible April where he walked 4.71 betters per 9 and has been on a steady decline since: 3.48 in May, 2.36 in June and 2.08 in July!

He's the total package but how he does it? 

First, let's break down some PitchFX data to do that:

His Cutter has a negative horizontal movement of - 0.68 Inches on average and his four seam fastball averages a break of 5.08 Inches. I'll let Mike Silver, in his awesome piece "Game calling, pitch sequencing and reading hitters' timing" explain to you how a deadly combination those 2 are when Jon is facing RHH:

In the last couple years, Lester’s cut fastball has become one of his go-to pitches against righties. It’s really an incredible pitch to watch, as time and again he coaxes whiffs on pitches over a foot inside – at the ankles, no less. That Major League hitters can’t lay off the pitch is truly incredible and goes a long way in showing how polished a pitcher Lester has become, how good his stuff is, and how well developed the chemistry has become between he and his catchers.

In the case of Lester’s cutter, he uses it in a fashion that is very similar to the aforementioned use of a slider.

On the one hand, Lester sets up his cutter with the use of the inside fastball. When he is painting the inside corner for strikes, the batters get defensive and begin to anticipate inside fastballs. Since the cutter has a very similar trajectory to the straight fastball – and thus looks like a fastball – these batters will swing at the inside pitch to avoid another called strike.

However, Lester’s cutter moves inside at the last second – too late for batters to recognize the break, resulting in a helpless whiff for strike three.

On the other hand, his change up (85.6 mph versus 93.5 mph for the FF) has a 9.41 Inches horizontal break forcing RHH to roll-over the pitch (if they make contact) resulting in a weak grounder (54.4 GB% vs RHH).

Now let's see what those pitches generate when hitters decide to swing at them:


          Pitch

     Whiff

Four seam Fastball

        6.2%

Cut Fastball

     16.5%

Two seam Fastball

      11.9%

Change up

      14.9%

Curveball

        8.1%

 

3 pitches with a double digit swing-and-miss rate? This is unfair! 

I can go on and on on that subject but I'll finish with this: On May 20th last year, FanGraphs introduced Pitch Type Linear Weights and what it does is that it uses linear weights by count and by event and breaks it down by each pitch type so you can see in runs the actual effectiveness of each pitch. A look at the leader board in pitch value shows that Jon Lester has the best Cutter (2.86 runs per 100 pitches) AND Change up (4.37 runs per 100 pitches) among starters not only the AL but in the Majors !!!! Just think about it for a second: He throws 5 pitches and 2 of them are baseball's best !

Hey Tampa, he's one year older than David Price! Hey NY, he's a product of our farm system and he'll be ours for a long, long time at a team friendly contract!

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All of Lester's pitches are nasty

It’s just the difference between “That’s nasty” and the kind of pitch that ought to be illegal in 37 states.

I don’t remember the game, but I have a vivid memory of one sweeping curveball that had no business going anywhere near the strike zone—it looked like it should have flown over Tek’s head. Instead, it sneakily came on down, swept through the very back outer corner of the strike zone, and quietly nestled its way into Tek’s glove, for a strike. It was the filthiest pitch I’ve ever seen. There was absolutely no good outcome that you could hope for with that pitch.

Fenway: "An alternate and better universe, disguised as a ballpark." --Thomas Boswell

by lone1c on Jul 15, 2010 3:45 AM EDT reply actions  

What I love about Lester's pitch mix is that he has 4 pitches that look like fastballs.

As the pitch comes ou tof the hand, hitters basically have to guess between sinker, cutter, 4-seam, and changeup. And, as you can see from pitch f/x, there can be almost a foot of horizontal difference in the movement or half a foot of vertical distance. that a hitter has to guess from. And a 8-10 mph difference.

As a hitter that sucks. Basically, you identify fastball out of the hand, but then you have this huge range of movement and speed to deal with. It can go in, down, away, up, or just arrive late, and you have very little indication. Oh, and then once you start figuring it out, he’ll throw you a curveball. Ouch.

by ThePanda on Jul 15, 2010 12:45 PM EDT reply actions  

I guess I mean up in a relative sense.

If you’re looking sinker and you get a 4-seam, it’s going to arrive half a foot higher than you thought it would.

by ThePanda on Jul 15, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, what this reminds me of is that Rivera simulation online somewhere.

Except to an even higher degree. Coming out of the hand the pitch will look fastball and you can guess its trajectory, but where it ends up could be anywhere in a very large triangle (and with a third variable, speed) due to movement.

by ThePanda on Jul 15, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah - Radiohix didn't post it up above, but go look at Lester's _release_point_ graph.

It’s frightening how consistent it is, with no clue as to what is coming.

by mmmmm on Jul 15, 2010 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

What do you mean by a "team friendly contract" ?

Who says he’d give a discount for playing there? I’m sure Epstein will pay Lester pretty close to what he wants.

"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next." -George Michael Steinbrenner III

by Chris McKeown on Jul 15, 2010 5:47 PM EDT reply actions  

ah I see

Afterwards might be different… but yeah that was smart of Boston to do.

"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next." -George Michael Steinbrenner III

by Chris McKeown on Jul 16, 2010 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also, after that, if anyone were to give a hometown discount I think it would be Lester.

Considering everything that he has been through with this organization, the support that he’s experienced, and how close he is to many of the people (like Francona), I can’t imagine Lester ever leaving (though I’m sure that’s been said before). I just wouldn’t be surprised at all if Lester signed a slightly below market rate long term deal that would lock him up here for a long time.

by ThePanda on Jul 16, 2010 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I doubt he'd leave

I just think he’ll still want a substantial amount of money.

"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next." -George Michael Steinbrenner III

by Chris McKeown on Jul 16, 2010 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

And he’s going to get a substantial amount of money. What sucks is that we’re going to lose one of our major arguments about our team being more homegrown that yours when it happens. At least thats when I consider a player to stop being homegrown, when they take that massive contract. At that point, it’s like signing a FA.

Here’s to hoping Kelly is ready and contributing at 400k/yr at that point. = P

"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.

by Rogue Nine on Jul 16, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Derek Jeter, Andy Pettitte, Jorge Posada, Mariano Rivera, Robinson Cano, Phil Hughes, Brett Gardner

Joba Chamberlain… has hit inconsistencies though. For the most part, some EXCELLENT homegrown talent

"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next." -George Michael Steinbrenner III

by Chris McKeown on Jul 16, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

although you've got admit

The quartet of Jeter, Rivera, Posada and Petitte are not getting any younger.

by BobZupcic on Jul 16, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess a better word for how I feel about it is “cost efficient” players. Jeter is still homegrown, and so will say Clay. Both very good players but the major difference will be in the contract. After you re-sign a player to a long term extension something is lost, I guess the word is their cost efficiency.

"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.

by Rogue Nine on Jul 16, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Filthy.

Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.

by CasanovaWong on Jul 16, 2010 1:02 PM EDT reply actions  

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