Is J.D. Drew One Of The Most Overrated Players In Baseball? Players Think So
by Randy Booth on Jul 14, 2010 11:39 AM EDT
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PrintAccording to the Sports Illustrated players poll, J.D. Drew is one of the most overrated players in baseball:
I'm curious what the definition of "overrated" is by these players because Drew certainly is not that.
And as much as it hurts to say, Alex Rodriguez and Nick Swisher aren't, either (as much as I hate both of them). Joba Chamberlain? Sure. Gary Matthews Jr.? Sure. But not the other three. But especially not Drew.
What say you? Does the poll results look right? Who else do you think should have been in the top five?
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Hahahahahaha hahahah hahaha haha ha
Deep breath.
Yeah, this is crap.
Not only is Drew NOT overrated, he’s one of the best right fielders in the game, he plays to and above his contract just about every year, how can that be overrated?
I would say he doesn’t get the respect he deserves, almost placing him in the UNDERrated category.
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Agreed
The only one on the Sox that I would tag “overrated” would be DLsbury. He’s fast as hell & you see a web gem on ESPN every other day, but he wouldn’t need to try to make diving plays if he took the correct routes. Named “Best Defensive Player” last year? ha, please Drew is a much better defender
Agreed, to me Drew always seemed like an underrated played.
May overrated by the media?
I don’t get who is overrating them.
+1
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 14, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmm..
I think something like this isn’t reflecting what the question asks (re: over rated), but rather the players in the game that other players aren’t impressed with (or something to that effect).
It’s of more use to see how these players stand with their peers rather than reflective of the poll “winners.”
I agree that Joba is overrated
always has been, just because of his 2007 callup and what he did in September that year.
I never really saw Gary Matthews Jr.’s value to begin with, so for him to get a big contract definitely makes him over-rated.
I agree also that JD Drew and A-Rod and Swisher aren’t over-rated. A-Rod used to be, during all those poor post-season performances, but I think between the 2009 season, the 2009 playoffs, and certain situations this year, he’s no longer over-rated. Over-paid, perhaps.
I’d be interested to see the criteria used for the poll, as AGuinness posted above.
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So not overrated
Just, jealousy, then?
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by South Coast Ghost on Jul 14, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess
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by BoldandBrash on Jul 14, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
This seems more like a combination poll of
people players think are overrated and people players dislike. JD Drew is really the outlier though, all the others I can at least see the argument for a “they get more publicity than they should” interpretation of overrated. But few people even like Drew, so he doesn’t even make sense for that. So people think he’s overpaid, a bad player, not passionate, lazy, AND overrated?
"few people even like Drew" ???
and you can back that up … how?
I’ve never heard a fellow player or manager say anything but good of him as a teammate, but I don’t claim to have heard everything.
That part was talking more about the fans.
I think most Boston fans (and baseball fans in general) dislike Drew.
oh - I mistook your original statement to be about baseball players - you know, the ones who voted in this 'poll'
187 Baseball players voted in this poll – about 5 of them (3%) voted Drew as ‘overrated’.
Not exactly compelling evidence of any strong opinion among the mass of players.
Yea, my post is a bit confusing and disjointed.
I meant to say that, Joba is an example of overrated, ARod is an example of someone player’s don’t like, and Swisher is an example of getting more publicity than he should (along with ARod) and possibly players don’t like (I don’t know).
Drew I was pointing out seems to be an example of few FANS (I guess I should’ve written that) like him, and an extreme opposite of overrated. Which means that he makes no sense being on here (therefore, him being an outlier).
He isn't overrated
But he gets paid too much compared to the rest of the ball club.
Gotta love when on The Show, the crowd chants, Overrated! 8)
Paid too much?
He’s out performed his contract just about every year (except 07 I believe when he went through some bad family issues).
Mike Lowell, Julio Lugo, those are the ones that are paid too much compared to the rest of the club. What Drew got as a FA is exactly what he deserved.
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I love three Yankees on there
especially Joba
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 14, 2010 12:30 PM EDT reply actions
Funny to see but I only agree with one
The players got it right, Joba is easily one of the most overrated players in baseball, and if Buchholz wasn’t playing as well this year, I’d have thrown him up there too.
A-Rod? Swisher? Might not like them very much but A-Rod is still one of the best players in the game and what are the expectations of Swisher to make him overrated? He does fine at what they ask him to do.
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ARod is good, no doubt.
I was never a big Swisher person though.
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 14, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
He is inconsistent I’ll give him that but he has more good years than bad years and his good years are usually pretty good. Maybe it has something to do with being a Billy Beane product, people expect him to be beating you without even realizing it.
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I’ll agree with that assesment
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 14, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
3%?
That’ is a pretty insignificant number, less than 1 guy per team. What a worthless poll! Just grabbing headlines.
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by cavman on Jul 14, 2010 12:34 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
THIS
needs to be repeated for emphasis.
Hell, the only number on the poll with any significance above noise might be Joba’s.
It was pointless to even publish the poll
Since it actually contains ZERO SIGNIFICANT NUMBERS.
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A-Rod is kind of overrated given that people aren't pointing out how bad of a choice for the team he was.
His consistent performance in previous years appears to have earned him carte blanche for mediocrity.
Swisher…well, that’s just a matter of markets.
USG
I was actually just going to post about that.
ARod has been having a pretty terrible season by his standards. His .356 is not even close to being elite.
This poll was devised and then published
solely to get OTM’s collective panties in a knot.
Maybe to the point of someone angrily cobbling together another JD Drew t-shirt.*
*(2/3 of the current OTM t-shirts dedicated to David Jonathan “JD” Drew. 0/3 to gizmosandy.)
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Consider the Source
I gave up on SI years ago as the National Enquirer of Sports. Heck, even ESPN the magazine has more hard sports information than these guys…
Chamberlain? Sure, I can see that.
Arod, Swisher, and Drew are probably just hate.
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I don't know if I'd call...
Gary Matthews Jr. overrated just because I thought it was common knowledge this guy sucks and to be overrated people would have to think you’re good. Joba is wuss for a lack of a better term and the Yankees made him that way. A-Rod MAYBE just because he’s having a “down year” and just based on what you pay the guy I could see how some could consider him overrated, though I personally don’t think he is. Swisher is a tool and his defense is rather appauling (I’ve seen him turn single into extra bases with his play) but he does have a good bat. He suits more of a dh role than a starting outfielder in my opinion. Usually when I see these overrated lists Jeter is on them, once again though usually they bring up the fact he makes way more than the average short stop and his out put doesn’t dwarf a lot of the other short stops in the league.
Personally I think J.D. Drew is rather underrated by people. He is a very good all around player. The one main gripe people have with him is his health but since coming to Boston he’s been relatively healthy for the most part. I hear a lot more smack talk about Drew then praise from people and everytime I talk about him I usually start it out with contrary to popular opinion our right fielder is good.
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by sonicdeathmonkey on Jul 14, 2010 2:13 PM EDT reply actions
Swisher UZR/150 is -0.3 and Fangraphs has him at -1.2 fielding runs so far this year, which is pretty close to in line with his career numbers.
Not terrific, more like “a tad below league average”, but I certainly wouldn’t call it “appalling.”
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Clearly...
…your statistics and facts are a product of east coast media bias
Wait 'til next/this year?
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by nuthinboutnuthin on Jul 14, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
What I want to know is, how did Rev Halofan manage to stuff the ballot so effectively? Dude’s crafty.
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Having given up on the season by the ASB...
…he has lots of time on his hands
Wait 'til next/this year?
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by nuthinboutnuthin on Jul 14, 2010 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Indeed. But while I’m here, Joba Chamberlain’s ERA-FIP is 3.00 and A-Rod and Swish being there is a product of “I so, totally, hate the Yankees,” which is why I was surprised not to see Jeter, especially with the way he gets fawned over for his “jump throws” and “Jeterian singles.”
But J.D. Drew being on there is pretty comical. If you asked me for some of the most underrated players, Drew would come up pretty quickly. Dude is ridiculously consistent and plays great D.
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LOL
+1
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by Chris McKeown on Jul 14, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Gary Matthews Jr. overrated just because I thought it was common knowledge this guy sucks and to be overrated people would have to think you’re good.
Well, Bill Stoneman overrated him. Of course, one guy is important when he’s handing out gigantic team-crippling contracts
Wait 'til next/this year?
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by nuthinboutnuthin on Jul 14, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I really though Jacoby was going to find his way on this list actually
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by sonicdeathmonkey on Jul 14, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
JD Drew
Overrated??? He is a fine fielder who does his job quietly and effeciently, if anything he is underrated and not shown the respect he deserves. He is a quiet man and dosn’t show off , he is the best fileder the Red Sox have.
"Quietly and efficiently"
Is an understatement my friend. Dude is the friggin MLB Terminator. Just relentless, no emotion. God my dude crush is getting to creepy levels methinks
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You know me by now
I tend to get worked up when I get my scatterbrain all pointed in the same direction…and this story has me pointed at all things JD Drew. oh, and beer
I exercise strong self control. I never drink anything stronger than gin before breakfast
I'll be honest
JD Drew is not overrated, Alex Rodriguez is not overrated, Nick Swisher is not overrated. I don’t feel there is a need to defend any of these players because they are all great, with some being better than others.
I can understand Joba Chamberlain being considered overrated because he’s inconsistent. However, he’s been good/great in 80% of his outings. It’s the other 20% that are, well, ATROCIOUS. Aka let up 3+ runs in about 5 outings.
Gary Matthews Jr.? He’s bad… so I have no idea how he can be considered overrated.
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This is a fair post.
The whole poll is worthless and has no data of significance above noise. As Bloggy points out – it should not have been published.
This poll is pathetic and embarrassing! Now go buy my CDs and listen to my crappy music!
Sports Illustrated, you just got Joe West’d.
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by Lord Duggan on Jul 14, 2010 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed with Duggan and mmmmm
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by Chris McKeown on Jul 14, 2010 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
So like appearntly you are ovverrated only if you play for the yanks or sox
or if ur Gary MatthewsJr…who i’m not even sure still has a job. Did SI interview haloheaven or sumthing?
Why is Michael Young overrated?
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it's an inside joke, and you sir
are on the outside.
The certified ambassador of all things good and great, here at OTM.
Hey at least it makes sense now
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And I’m an OTM regular. Must be a game-thread thing…
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I think young is underrated because of the way the media loves BA,
but he’s nothing special, a solid player just not great.
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by BoldandBrash on Jul 14, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions
In the words of the immortal Mel Gibson
I WILL BURN THE F’N HOUSE DOWN WITH YOU IN IT! next time I hear some clown say JD is over rated. Drew can do no wrong. Favorite Sox since the day he signed with us
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JD overrated?
I don’t really think so. And not many players think so, either. JD’s pretty solid, in my opinion. On the other hand…..Joba? Most definitely. I feel the same about Nick Swisher. But A-Rod? Nah….he’s not overrated. That guy’s almost always clutch, always good @ 3rd base. I know I wouldn’t mind having him on my team.
Yeah
Because being a top 5 right fielder is so bad…
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Actually it was top 5 right fielder. Not top 3.
IMO JD is not a top 5 right fielder. He is right below that.
What is your top 5?
Zobrist, Drew, Markakis, Choo and Werth would be my top 5, and I wouldn’t even bother trying to rank them individually since they all have similiar skill sets (the only exception is Markakis who has seen his defense decline and would be at the bottom.)
Drew has an excellent plate approach and is one of the best defenders on the team. Don’t know what else you would want from the man.
Every year (except 2007 when he was dealing with family issues and a relocation) he has out performed his contract.
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Here's the thing
We’re all looking at it from a fan and statistical viewpoint, but the players have different viewpoints. Maybe some pitchers that generally do well against Drew voted for him because they find him easy to pitch to. Same thing goes for the rest of the questionable players.
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They could also be..
1) Jealous of the player’s ability
2) Sick of hype surrounding a player
3) A d-bag in general
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by Chris McKeown on Jul 14, 2010 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
That wasn't the point I was making
but I guess that’s possible
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That too of course
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Who is "they"?
Umm 3% is about … 5 guys out of 187 that voted. Not significant. Not meaningful in any way.
This “poll” really should not have been published.
yes and let's also keep in mind
There’s a reason why few players go on to be general managers after retiring. The two aren’t the same skill set.
Except Torii Hunter
That guy spent the week talking about wanting to be a GM when he retires
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and i wanna be a baseball player when i retire
though admittedly, he’s probably got a better shot at his dream…
Go for it!
You can easily play for the Pirates.
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