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Tampa and Boston: A Plague on Both Their Houses

Make no mistake: the Red Sox are a battered team. The injuries just keep piling on, to the point that you could field a pretty good team with the talent we have sitting on the DL. Beckett, Drew, Ellsbury, Hermida, now Pedroia and Martinez are all in various stages of rehab / hospice. The season almost ended entirely when Clay Buchholz hurt himself running the bases; thankfully, his injury doesn't look too severe. Overall, things are not looking good for Boston heading into the All Star break.

The Red Sox have the top offense in the American league because they field excellent or above-average players around the field, including at more defensive positions like 2nd base, catcher and shortstop.  With the chaos in the outfield and Martinez and Pedroia injured, the Sox are likely to lose this advantage. This is especially worrisome because the offense has carried the team, as our pitching ranks 10th in the AL for runs allowed, despite superb work from Lester and Buchholz.  Our defense has been quite good: 4th in MLB by UZR, but the loss of Drew and Pedroia, not to mention all the time Bill "Butcher" Hall is getting in the field, could potentially change that. [Click Continue Reading for more.]

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About the only playoff competitor looking worse is the Tampa Bay Rays. Since May 24, they are 12-19, a stretch that began with a 3-game sweep in Boston, and has seen them fall to 3rd place in the division race. Strikingly, they are 5-10 against the National League, dropping two series to the mighty Florida Marlins (and their $55 million payroll).

The Rays' June swoon can be attributed to slightly worse pitching (4.36 ERA in June vs. 3.22 in May) and weak offense. This was very predictable, as the team was enjoying unsustainably strong starting pitching performances (iirc, 4 starters with sub 3-ERAs at one point), and an extremely lucky offense.  Rays batters still are fairly lucky: they are 4th in runs scored despite being 10th in BA, 8th in slugging and 6th in OBP.

Tampa is still positioned to compete, and they have the tools to make a big trade at the deadline, as is Boston. Theo should act first, preferably now, to bolster the team. The best way to improve things would not be to seek an impact bat, but to improve the starting rotation. Cliff Lee as a rental would certainly do that, but we don't necessarily need an ace so much as a decent #2 or #3 starter. Roy Oswalt, if he's available might be cheaper, and there are plenty of other posssibilities. Another name in the pen might help, as would replacement-level players to man the field until VMart and Pedroia return. But a good starter would improve the team more, ultimately allowing Tito to move Wake to the pen, and depend less on the unreliable Lackey and Matsuzaka.

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Which team will prevail in the race for the East?
The Red Sox. We'll weather this perfect storm of injuries.
311 votes
The Rays. They'll start playing better.
20 votes
TEH YANKEEZSH! DEY WILL BUY IT!
236 votes
Ask for me tomorrow, and you shall find me a grave man.
30 votes

597 votes | Poll has closed

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Drew's back.

And McDonald’s been the best they could have hoped for. And Nava has been all right. But we need Pedey, Hermida, Ells, and the gang back!

"We're not going to give up," It doesn't happen, so who cares? There's always next year. It's not like it's the end of the world."-Manny Ramirez

by revigik on Jun 28, 2010 9:13 AM EDT reply actions  

I like how McDonald has been “The best that they could have hoped for” he of low .700s OPS and mediocre at best defense and yet Nava has been just “all right” with his .850s OPS (still need more time for defense). Neither came in with particularly high expectations and Darnell certainly exceeded them at first, however he’s been merely average at best since then and so expectations are met perfectly, but not exceeded by any means. Nava still has a lot to prove but he’s playing very well for us now even though going into the season he was probably option 18 on the OF depth chart.

We do need Ellsbury back though, and Cameron to be healthy, anything to mitigate the damage that is about to be caused from Bill Hall playing 2B.

"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.

by Rogue Nine on Jun 28, 2010 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

We don't really need Hermida.

He can’t field and he can’t hit, what else is there?

Good things happen when Beltre is on his knees.
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by BoldandBrash on Jun 28, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

he can at least hit better than he has hit

with his .255 BABIP despite a 21.6% LD%, he’s about due for some serious streaking. He’s not gonna be a superstar but isn’t quite so bad as he looks. Admittedly, he isn’t one of those key pieces we need back- I’m not sure if there are any OF right now I’d rather have off the roster in place of Hermida- Patterson?

by wolf9309 on Jun 28, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Too many starters

Buchholz, Lester, Beckett, Lackey, Matsuzaka, Wakefield, and now random imported starter makes for a very crowded rotation. Wakefield moves to the pen, but that still leaves you with six starters for five rotation spots. What do you do then?

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by lone1c on Jun 28, 2010 9:40 AM EDT reply actions  

We already have our midseason starter acquisition in the books

it’s Beckett.

We could use an OF better than McDonald and a true IF utility guy. We could use some help in the pen, but lately, it’s looking to me like the best answer is get rid of Ramirez and bring up Manuel. Hopefully MDC stops struggling.

The thing is, before the trade deadline, it looks like we should have Ellsbury, Beckett, and Hermida all back, which really makes it so I don’t see any need for a huge move.

by wolf9309 on Jun 28, 2010 9:57 AM EDT reply actions  

Lowrie is supposedly a week away from starting a rehab stint with Lowell.

He might not be a bad replacement now and a good backup later. Hall is pretty bad on deffense, so Lowrie should be an improvement. Hall isn’t a good hitter either. Lowrie should be able to match what Hall has been putting up.

Good things happen when Beltre is on his knees.
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by BoldandBrash on Jun 28, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, depending on how fast his rehab is

If he’s a week away, after he’s been gone so long, I wouldn’t be surprised to see him rehabbing another two weeks before they’d give him a chance- at that point (god willing), we’re halfway through our Pedroia-less phase.

by wolf9309 on Jun 28, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe a week in lowell and another week in Portland/Pawtucket

Good things happen when Beltre is on his knees.
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by BoldandBrash on Jun 28, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

He hasn't played in a while,

but I’m pretty sure he was doing something in Florida.

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by BoldandBrash on Jun 28, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah I'm sure he was

but I’m also quite sure that it wasn’t facing anything close to major league pitching

by wolf9309 on Jun 28, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didn't he lose like 25 pounds?

I can’t believe that it’ll take two weeks to get him back in full baseball mode.

"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.

by Rogue Nine on Jun 28, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think that's what he's been working on all this time, getting that back

reasonably, Mono does not last 3 months. And it probably wasn’t 25 pounds. I’m not sure he had 25 pounds to lose.

by wolf9309 on Jun 28, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Injuries seem to drag along with him, the worlds longest case of mono isn’t too hard to imagine in Jed Lowrie is involved. = P

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by Rogue Nine on Jun 28, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

plus when he comes back,

He’ll probably be in for about three games before he goes on the DL for a hangnail.

by wolf9309 on Jun 28, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Compounded by a mosquito bite.

"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.

by Rogue Nine on Jun 28, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lowrie returning, you say?

I’m not sure whether I should take the Hindenburg, the Titanic or drive across the Tacoma Narrows Bridge to go see the game. Either way, I think that stripper really liked me…

I’d be totally thrilled if Lowrie came back strong – and there’s not real reason he can’t I suppose. I just can’t shake the impending doom feeling…

Wait 'til next/this year?

by nuthinboutnuthin on Jun 28, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hear ya

Good things happen when Beltre is on his knees.
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by BoldandBrash on Jun 28, 2010 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Speaking of Lowell ...

one thing that would help would be to get Mikey off the roster so we can put a true infielder on the roster. Even if they can’t hit, it would make be feel better to put one on the field in the late innings instead of having Bill Hall out there.

Now that Drew is back, the OF doesn’t look so bad, even if Cam is still slowly climbing back to full strength. I like Nava and Drew on the corners. And Tek will probably be durable enough to last the short stint until V-Mart comes back without completely wearing out.

But having Hall on the field playing 2B everyday …. ugh.

by mmmmm on Jun 28, 2010 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lowell is on the DL

and it doesn’t sound like either him or the Sox expect him to come off it, really. From the quotes I saw from him, he thought he was going to end up needing surgery/hip reconstruction. I think he’s played his last game.

by wolf9309 on Jun 28, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah - the slow run to first on the deep grounder

I forgot about them sliding him onto the DL after that.

by mmmmm on Jun 28, 2010 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol at the third option

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by bestbostonsports on Jun 28, 2010 10:27 AM EDT reply actions  

sure could have used fransden right about now

by MR. CAFETERIA on Jun 28, 2010 10:51 AM EDT reply actions  

Yep

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by bestbostonsports on Jun 28, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Injury Toll

The Sox have been able to weather the loss of Beckett/Ellsbury/Cameron very well, somehow. But the loss of the team’s 1-2-3 batters, 2 all-star players, and one that was on fire (Pedrioa) HAS to hurt, and could put them in a too-deep hole by August. For better or worse, Theo will not sell off the farm to try to replace these losses and simply ride out the season as he did in 2005 and 2006. The compettition may be too tough to overcome these losses should they linger and continue. I don’t expect the Yankees to falter much, and the Rays have to play better. Next 30 days may tell all.

by Scoop1981 on Jun 28, 2010 11:12 AM EDT reply actions  

We could be a

Royal fan
Pirate fan
Baltimore fan
Cub fan
Cleveland fan. Just sayin.

by Troy A on Jun 28, 2010 12:06 PM EDT reply actions  

For me it’s really hard to see a team as besotted by injuries to rally past the Yankees. Stranger things have happened, but it’s hard to muster the optimism. There’s still more than half the season to play, so Pedroia being out 4-6 shouldn’t sink the Red Sox single-handedly. Nevertheless, the Sox need to start getting healthy.

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by SoxDevil on Jun 28, 2010 1:46 PM EDT reply actions  

I just want to make the wild card and be healthy.

I believe that if the team is healthy and faces the Yankees in the playoffs, they have a chance.

Good things happen when Beltre is on his knees.
"man, this team they just suck so bad"- gizmosandy
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by BoldandBrash on Jun 28, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

One of the 7 votes so far for the Rays was probably from Sandy.

Good things happen when Beltre is on his knees.
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by BoldandBrash on Jun 28, 2010 2:05 PM EDT reply actions  

yep

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by gizmosandy on Jun 28, 2010 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

The greater the adversity the greater the glory

Good things happen when Beltre is on his knees.
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by BoldandBrash on Jun 28, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

The greater the adversity the greater the glory

Good things happen when Beltre is on his knees.
"man, this team they just suck so bad"- gizmosandy
Twitter: @BoldandBrash

by BoldandBrash on Jun 28, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

No way...

We activated Gustavo Molina to back-up Tek. Molina at catcher = World Series. Works everytime.

Wait 'til next/this year?

by nuthinboutnuthin on Jun 29, 2010 3:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know, he isn’t one of THOSE Molinas. This guy is from Venezuela and is not related to the trio of Molina brothers who gots all those rings. Hopefully the last name is all we need, not the relationship.

"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.

by Rogue Nine on Jun 29, 2010 8:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was assuming it was the last name.

Now we have to sign Eric Hinske

Wait 'til next/this year?

by nuthinboutnuthin on Jun 29, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stay close get healthy make a run

I think since we are staying close and competing the Sox do not need to hit the panic button. However, Sox definitely need a legitimate infielder off the bench, even if the LaserMan was not injured it is probably the single biggest need. I imagine the FO is wargaming a course of action now to fill that need. I see your point of a starter since a team can NEVER have enough starting pitching – have to imagine if the Front Office makes a run at Lee or Oswalt then Beckett and/or DiceK are not in the plans for this year. Stay tuned folks still alot of intriguing baseball to be played and deals to be made…wonder if a blockbuster is in the works????

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by Dave D on Jun 29, 2010 12:21 PM EDT reply actions  

I highly, highly, highly doubt that another starter is headed our way

Probably the least of our needs after a bullpen arm, a rental to cover Pedroia, a healthy outfield, a backup infielder, and a new third base coach.

by wolf9309 on Jun 29, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think I would put the 3rd base coach as the biggest need

you had to remind me! I still think the 1st need is an infielder – I did ask about the whereabouts of Lowrie from some of the contributors on this site- but he is less than reliable. I imagine Theo picking up a slick fielding infielder…I also think in regard to the OF the plan is to see Ells and Hermida come back – bullpen arms – seems to be debate on that and some say we are ok esp in comparison to other teams…Zumiya just went on the DL that was sad for Detroit a real blow – but, a bullpen arm could not hurt again I do wonder about Beckett and DiceK the Sox will be making all their decisions on doctor’s estimates to some extent…hmmmm

"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry, you know anything that travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?" - Crash Davis

by Dave D on Jun 29, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

There is no good Lackey.

Good things happen when Beltre is on his knees.
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by BoldandBrash on Jun 29, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's not true

we faced it a couple times before…
Haven’t seen it in this uniform. We’ve seen not terrible Lackey a couple times, so lets hope for that.

by wolf9309 on Jun 29, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's what I meant

He left good Lackey in LA

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by BoldandBrash on Jun 29, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

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