Red Sox Come Back Again, But This Time Hold On To Beat The Yankees
Wherever you are, just breathe. Take a deep breath. It feels good once you do a few different times.
In a game that started ugly and wet, the Sox went down by five runs early, but battled back to beat the Yankees, 7-6, on Tuesday.
It was exactly like Monday. The Red Sox fought back from a five-run defeceit and went into the 9th with a two-run lead. Despite many OTM commentators wanting Daniel Bard to stay on the mound, Terry Francona brought Jonathan Papelbon out -- again -- to try and earn the save.
It wasn't pretty, but he did it.
Last night's hero was Marcus Thames. Tonight's goat is Marcus Thames. We call that poetic justice. With one out and Darnell McDonald on first, Marco Scutaro hit a fly to short right field for Thames to catch. The ball hit off his glove and landed in the grass, allowing Scutaro to reach base. It brought Jeremy Hermida to the plate (who came into the game for an injured JD Drew).
And what does he do? "The Herm Locker" doubles over Randy Winn's head into left field. The Sox take the 7-5 lead and it sets it up for Paps. (Did I mention this was all against Mariano Rivera? No. OK, well it was. It was pretty impressive.)
Papelbon looked OK. He didn't look great. He didn't look like old Papelbon who used to strikeout guys when he ran into trouble. His fastball sat in the 92-93 range and hit 95 when he tried to get Winn for the last out. His splitter, though, was non-existent. Papelbon also had a great snag on the mound, grabbing a comebacker for the inning's second out.
OK, take another moment to breathe.
There were ugly moments tonight, yes -- including Josh Beckett and Drew leaving early because of injuries, Scoot's error in the 9th, and probably a few more -- but let's focus on the good. That being the Red Sox fought back, took the lead, held the lead and won the game. We didn't see that last night, but we saw it tonight and it was beautiful.
This could have been the nail in the coffin for the Red Sox. Going down 5-0 early was bad and it looked like a hard hole to climb out of. But even with last night's heartbreaker, the Sox fought back and the pitching kept the game in check.
The Red Sox are still working hard to win games. Last night was deflating, but these players know this season isn't lost. There are still many more games to play and they're still going to work their collective ass off to win these games.
Don't count out the Red Sox just yet, because they're not counting themselves out either.
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Till human voices wake us, and we drown.
DON'T EVER AGAIN WATCH A GAME!
Westmoreland recently asked his son how he was feeling, and the response the father received didn't surprise him. "I'm going to be in Portland next year," Ryan said.
AGREED!!!!!!
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by bestbostonsports on May 19, 2010 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions
What a night. Celtics win, Bard gets the W, and Bates homers ;)
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by bestbostonsports on May 19, 2010 12:40 AM EDT reply actions
I cant wait for Minor Lines
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by bestbostonsports on May 19, 2010 12:44 AM EDT reply actions
Drew Beckett
How bad were their injuries?
I really cannot fathom how much it would suck to get Cameron back only to lose Drew and have to put up with another half month of Hall, Hermida and McDonald.
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what happened with Drew? I missed it.
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by bestbostonsports on May 19, 2010 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Drew was wincing after rounding first awkwardly on his double in the 8th. It didn’t look too bad on the replay, but he appeared to be in a fair amount of pain standing at second…so time will have to tell on that one…although he ran fine into second despite the obvious discomfort, so I can’t imagine it being too severe at the end of the day.
I think Beckett’s was just a lingering effect of his back spasms (or whatever). It wasn’t serious looking, and he actually pitched relatively solid beyond the boxscore so I don’t think it bothered him toooo much overall before leaving, but we’ll have to see if it causes him to miss another start or not.
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by Logan Lietz on May 19, 2010 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Wow.
My head is KILLING me. I don’t know if that could have been a more intense ending…especially with it looking SO much like last night for a while there.
Did I mention how much I LOVE Hermida (I know I have, but I feel it necessary to point it out after tonight). All he does is put together quality at-bats in tough spots, whether off the bench or in the starting role…he just fits.
And then there’s Youkilis…how that guy doesn’t get more national recognition as one of the best hitters in the AL is beyond me.
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Jeremy Hermida
rocks my life this season. I never want to see Cameron again.
by Christopher B on May 19, 2010 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions
What?
You’re aware that Hermida is a mediocre hitter and a bad defender right? He has some hits in high leverage situation but THIS IS NOT A SKILL!
Westmoreland recently asked his son how he was feeling, and the response the father received didn't surprise him. "I'm going to be in Portland next year," Ryan said.
It is however [his clutch hitting], going to be a great addition to the bench upon the return of Ells and Cam
*Not to mention it just takes that much more playing time from that poor excuse for a major leaguer, also known as Bill Hall, which is always a great thing.
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Lucky, Certainly
and it has been great fun to watch.
I’m also aware that Cameron should be worshipped according to his UZR. I’m willing to cut Hermida some slack because a.) he isn’t 37 b.) he’s managed to stay healthy and c.) he is not Bill Hall.
by Christopher B on May 19, 2010 3:05 AM EDT up reply actions
I feel the need to elaborate
When Hermida was acquired, the idea was that his power and average would improve with Fenway and increased at-bats. The flicker of hope he carries due to his youth is a more pleasurable distraction than wondering of Boston is overpaying for past performance in Cameron.
by Christopher B on May 19, 2010 3:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Wow
this is crazy. Hermida blows chunks. I am glad has name has been associated with “big” hits, but he is a barely replacement level player who if given the chance over a long sample size would cause this team to loose a bunch more games than having Cameron playing would. His offense and defense are subpar, and along with Macdonald basically had as much to do with Monday’s loss as Papelbon or Dice K did (the 2 of them, by my count, “allowed” 4 runs on 4 bad defensive plays).
As for his “big” hits-you do realize that both of the 2 biggest ones were complete misplays by Juan Rivera and Randy Winn. Did you see where Winn was playing Hermida on his “double”? He was playing him where Macdonald SHOULD have been playing Gardner the night before. Hermida goes the other way, and if Winn is playing normal depth that is an out.
I have nothing against Hermida, but he is a below average player, and he (as a LHB with bad defense who can only play LF/RF) is not valuable to the team. Sad as it is-Bill Hall is more valuable to the Sox than hermida is, as is (probably) Macdonald.
+1
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by Drugs Delaney on May 19, 2010 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions
entirely
based on a position he will almost never play with the Sox. Besides the small sample issue, he is a -DRS outside of RF.
Or maybe he should be dumped for middle relief needs:
Drew UZR/150 RF (2007-2009)~+54
Hermida:~ -3
Drew career wOBA~0.386
Hermida ~.336
yes-dumb of me
~+15…still a hell of a lot better than Hermida, and not accounting for the tremendous offensive difference as well.
Yeah, I wasn't really trying to say he's better than Drew
But, I think he’s a better fielder than you are giving him credit for.
seemingly untrue outside of right
and he can’t play right on this team. He is a wasted roster spot who can’t really hit-and we have a paper-thin pen. I would deal him in a heartbeat for a decent relief arm (something I normally would not overvalue but in this case it is a big need).
He’s got a -1 DRS and a +1.8 UZR this year in left, so he’s been pretty average. And his hitting has been hurt by his .258 BABIP. He’s not an all-star, but he’s been ok this year. If we can get a solid relief arm for him, I would do it in a heartbeat as well. But, I doubt anyone is looking for a decent fourth outfielder right now.
don't get me wrong
he has filled in fine, but he is not versatile (eg plays one OF position and not CF), and is a LHB. I would keep Hall and MacDonald over him for these reasons.
75bandwagon must be upset!
No material for a "fan"post :’(
Westmoreland recently asked his son how he was feeling, and the response the father received didn't surprise him. "I'm going to be in Portland next year," Ryan said.
by radiohix on May 19, 2010 12:57 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Aww beat me to it!
"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.
Had it typed up and everything!
Then had to delete it. :(
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by Drugs Delaney on May 19, 2010 7:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Any bets on the possibility of a 75bandwagon post tomorrow that is more about Tito throwing Papelbon in instead of highlighting how awesome our offense was to come back two nights in a row.
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Me!
Though Bard should have stayed in there
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by bestbostonsports on May 19, 2010 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions
And I agree he should have, especially after what he did last night. My friends can vouch, I was cursing up a storm as I saw Paps trot out there for the ninth. But it shouldn’t be the focus of a come from behind victory like this.
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You have to bring Paps out for the 9th
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by Drugs Delaney on May 19, 2010 7:18 AM EDT up reply actions
As long as he pinky swears to not serve up meatballs all night like he did previously.
"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.
Bard has served up his fair share of meatballs this year, so let’s not go crazy.
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by Drugs Delaney on May 19, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I know, but what is the point in having Bard warm up let him throw a single pitch to end the inning and then throw in your closer who the night before allowed two long balls to lose the game and looked pretty bad doing it. Give the guy a night off, I mean, he was barely able to end the game last night as it was, which I know a part of it was defense.
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Because, for better or worse, Papelbon is the closer and he was available last night. If you have an opportunity to throw him back out there after a rough outing, you do it. You don’t want to mess with Paps’ head. The Sox only have two decent relief pitchers.
As for last night, ALL of it was defense. If Sccot makes a routine play, it’s not even close. On Monday, the play DMac botched played a huge part in the Sox’ loss.
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by Drugs Delaney on May 19, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
It should also be noted
that Cano’s double was basically a fluke-when a LHB hits a ball down the 3b line for a double, that is not much different than Youkilis’ fluke bloop single.
Yeah, that ball was barely fair by the slimmest margin.
It could easily have been foul or conversely right to Beltre for an out, with the right random bounce or a millisec timing difference in the swing.
Anyone else think...
1. Papelbon was told to pitch around Thames in the 9th, so he decided to just do it with all fastballs on the inside so that if he hit him as opposed to walking him then no biggie? And after the one up and in that Thames took offense to, what was with Paps’ facial gesture towards the plate, was that a Pedroia-like expression, or was he implying something to Thames???
2. Ortiz should get fined for his Manny Moment in the 8th. He trots out of the box and then gets thrown out at second for out number two instead of representing the go-ahead run in scoring position with less than two outs…not to mention a big time rally killer. I mean, he did tie it, and it may not be best to kick him when he’s down (especially him, now), but come on…that was huge at that point in the game.
3. We should have just outright walked Thames in the 9th to set up the game-ending double play instead of pitching anywhere near the plate? I mean, I know it’s a rule never to walk the winning run on base in most circumstances, but Papelbon didn’t have his strikeout stuff at all tonight, I feel like we did the wrong thing there….maybe I’m wrong.
4. V-Mart might be the single worst catcher at framing pitches in the MLB? And on that same note, anyone think maybe we should have had Varitek catch Papelbon in that crucial 9th?
Idk, my head is pretty cloudy at the moment, maybe I’m way off-base with some of these…
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hmm
1. No
2 no opinion
3. ???
4 no opinion
We should have walked Thames? He did walk Thames! But why make an intentional walk if you think the guy might swing at pitches off the plate. It’s not like Thames is Barry Bonds circa 2003.
Thames
I realize we walked him, but I’m saying we should have done it intentionally rather than A. making Papelbon throw a bunch of pitches B. risking Papelbon missing over the plate C. risking Papelbon missing everything with a passed ball that would tie the game
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on 1, I was calling for him to just hit Thames
it would have saved pitches and was a perfect message moment.
on 2, I’ll give Papi a bit of a break because the wins really knocked that one down big time. Any other day, that shot is easily over the wall. But the winds were crazy. They helped us out in the 9th of course, with that misplayed popup down the RF line.
on 3 – see my answer for #1.
on 4 – Papelbon wasn’t missing close for the most part. No amount of framing was going to salvage those pitches he was missing. I almost think he started the inning out somewhat gun-shy after getting rocked the previous night.
1. I agree entirely…especially with the message part, Thames wasn’t exactly humble following his HR last night.
2. The fact that the wind was noticeably blowing in could be argued as a reason for him to HAVE been running as well…but yeah, I see what you’re saying I suppose.
3. Saw your answer for #1, still agree.
4. I’m not necessarily talking about Martinez’s framing in particular with my 9th inning suggestion, that was just an observation from early on with Beckett on the hill…I was more making the arguement that Varitek calls better games and works well with Papelbon — who could clearly use any confidence builder after last night. Martinez has been hot at the plate, but after he batted in the 9th, his spot in the lineup offensively really shouldn’t have been a big issue…idk, I might be overthinking this last one a bit….or all of them for that matter.
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the thing you have to remember about subbing for Catcher
is that it then removes your Catcher from the bench. If you go into extra innings, and for whatever reason your catcher gets hurt, you are hosed.
Most managers are reluctant to casually pinch hit or substitute for their catcher. You are better off holding on until you get a real obvious, high-leverage matchup advantage and then doing a double-switch. I.E., suppose in extra innings, you get a man in scoring position and a reliever comes in that you know Varitek just lights up like a christmas tree. And you have Bill Hall (playing OF) about to bat. THAT is when you insert Tek and then insert Van Every either as pinch runner (or in V-Mart’s spot later in the lineup if you decide to keep Tek in the game). Basically, unless there is a real obvious advantage, it is usually better to keep the Catcher substitution as a option in your pocket because you usually can only play that card once.
good call
Perfect example of my suggestion that I may be overlooking/missing something in my headache-induced rant.
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Just watched the replay on RedSox.com
That really was kinda a “Manny Moment”. Not nearly as bad as the ’07 ALCS…although at least Manny was safe.
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he only good thihng here
the Yankees are feeling even more self-loathing after blowing 5-run leads at home two nights in a row.
I think it's 15 runs the past three games.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
by CasanovaWong on May 19, 2010 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions
I would still
swap our Arson Squad pen with your pen in a heartbeat. I imagine you would pass…
Yeah, I'm happy with our guys.
Mo always has some sort of dead arm around this time of the year. The other guys will be alright. Gotta get Chopper and Drobb right and we’ll be good.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
by CasanovaWong on May 19, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Mariano
here is an interesting fact to keep an eye on: Mariano’s cutter velocity the last 4 years:
93.2, 92.8, 91.3, 90.8. Now in years 1-2 the drop is perhaps not significant, and from 3-4 again, but the overall effect is big-a drop of about 2.5 MPH. He is also throwing it much more (now by far a career high 94% up 12% in just 2 years). While it is too early to tell-is this the start of the end?
There's one thing that I found particulary interesting in Joba case: He's too predictable!
When he get behind in the count, the hitter can prepare himself for a slider:
Count | FB% | SL%
0 – 2 | 56 % | 44 %
1 – 2 | 57 % | 40 %
2 – 2 | 24 % | 74 %
3 – 2 | 20 % | 80 %
As for our reliever, oh god they’re not even capable of throwing strikes: Last night for example, Delcarmen threw 36 pitches only 18 were stikes, Okajima threw 20 and 10 were strikes, Papelbon threw 28 and only 15 strikes! Yikes!
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That's only part of the story
while he does fall in love with the slider at times, a lot of his predictability is also in location.
Joba does not intentionally throw inside to right handed batters ever. Under any circumstance.
Like if you watch the Pedroia at bat where he takes him to right field, by the end of the at bat, Pedroia is just leaning over the plate and thinking right field because he knows he doesn’t have to protect inside against Joba.
With his fastball, the inside corner should be a weapon, and would make hitters more vulnerable to his slider away, but he doesn’t even try and come in anymore. But yes, I’ve been screaming about Joba’s predictability for a while.
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Joba does not intentionally throw inside to right handed batters ever.
Tell that to Kevin Youkilis. :-)
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by Drugs Delaney on May 19, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Fair point
I will amend this to
“Joba does not throw inside to a right handed batter when trying to get them out.”
I was wondering if anything was going to become of that when Youk came up when Joba was struggling with his command and 1st base open…..
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Did he plunk Bay?
I don’t remember that but I’ll take your word for it. It certainly goes both ways.
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It was one of the most obvious
intentional hits I have seen-in a game where he fanned like 12 Sox in 6 innings he started the game shaky and Bay hit a 3 run bomb off of him in the first; In the midst of mowing through the Sox lineup he curiously hits Bay with 2 out and no one on in the ribs after Molina sets up low and outside.
The pitch Penny hit ARod with was a clear retaliation for that. I have no problem with this kind of thing (like CC hitting Pedroia after Beckett’s third grade hissy-fit hitathon). But hitting someone because the HRed off you is acceptable only to the likes of Roger Clemens-Joba’s hero.
I don't have a problem with the plunking
as long as it’s not up near the head. If you’re going to open that can of worms and put extra people on base and piss off your teammates who are going to get plunked in retaliation, that’s up to you.
If it’s up near the head though, you’re risking a dude’s career and that’s not in the same territory. Like when CC hit Pedroia and Beckett hit Jeter, those are both fine.
Joba’s pitches by Youk’s head and Beckett’s by Cervelli’s head I’m a lot less fine with, but as Jeter said “I get hit a lot, and it hurts. Almost getting hit doesn’t hurt at all.”
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That's cool
I get that. Head is off-limits. I also have a problem with hitting guys that hurt you earlier (to be differentiated from coming inside to make the hitter uncomfortable), but that’s just me.
I should also say
that all involve in the Cervelli-Beckett case (including Cervelli) did not think it was intentional; Joba has done it 4 times with Youkilis.
His splitter, though, was non-existent.
Actually, Papelbon threw 2 splitters: One for a swing and miss from Thames and the second to Miranda that allowed him to get the out!
Westmoreland recently asked his son how he was feeling, and the response the father received didn't surprise him. "I'm going to be in Portland next year," Ryan said.
God bless you, Randy Booth, for posting this.
I wake up this morning, and now I can feel joy in my heart again.
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If the Sox had lost Scutaro would have been the goat
He booted two routine plays that cost the Sox three runs.
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Again, this ain't boring stuff to watch.
ESPN and MLB channel must love these ratings, except last night was kinda late for many!
At this point, the only thing keeping me from writing them off
is the amount of games they still have left later in the season VS MFY and TB.
The bad news is that both those teams have our number in recent years.
If we can get hot for July, August, and September not all is lost, because there are many games vs. both those teams over those months.
Fire Farrell
Fire Bogar
No he doesn't
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by Drugs Delaney on May 19, 2010 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Single Handedly nearly gave the game away yesterday.
…..on two routine ground balls. Dont sit on a grounder backhand. Get in front of the ball, basic, fundamental baseball. He sucks.
He has been up and down
the field conditions were…horrible but no excuses.
More reasons why Youkilis is a god
1)He is 4th overall in baseball (and second in the AL) in wOBA
2)He is 2nd overall in baseball with a wRC of 38.
3)He is the only one in the top 4 who is doing this with a BABIP of below 350.
4)His BB % is behind only Morneau (who will see his drop for sure) at 18.1%
There's another stat that I like
His BB% and K % are both at 18.1%!
Westmoreland recently asked his son how he was feeling, and the response the father received didn't surprise him. "I'm going to be in Portland next year," Ryan said.
My one thought... what happened?
I missed the end of the game, I fell asleep in the 8th cause I’m still jet lagged, but I couldn’t believe when I woke up this morning and saw that they won!
I watched Pap blow the save the night before and I thought that we were going to lose last night too… I’m turning into a pessimistic fan again.
Anyways… I’m pumped that we won… hopefully we get 2 at home against the Twins and then a huge weekend in Philly!
The Sox' offense
Boston is 3rd in the AL in runs per game (5.25) and 2nd in team OPS (.804). Despite missing Jason Bay (or add “big” bat here), the Sox have hit the second most HR in the AL. They are on pace to hit 223 HR this season. The Sox hit 222 HR in 2004, a year they scored 949 runs.
Here’s what’s interesting, the Rays are currently second in the AL in runs per game, despite having a below league-average team OPS (.728). The Rays are a bad offense. They better continue to have lights out pitching or they may have to scramble to make the playoffs.
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They also sport
a team FIP-ERA>1 !!!!!!!. While both things must regress…they are a very solid team that is out to a big lead and will be damn hard to catch (not impossible by any means, but with very good pitching it will be tough).
you see
if we had Bay we would be on pace to hit 227 HRs!!!
and here i can argue that Bay would be a dramatic improvement to our team this season so far
BECAUSE Bay would have been nowhere near that ball which Beltre and Ellsbury collided on, it would have just been a normal routine play. So no one would have gotten hurt and we’d still have Ells in center, so we wouldn’t have any of these injury problems. Ah HA! FIRE THEO!
True
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by Drugs Delaney on May 19, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Thames
Hero to goat. Whatta boot in right. Ha
Whoever said it doesn't matter whether you win or lose, probably lost.

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