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A Portrait Of The Papi As A Revived Man

There was a time when David Ortiz was an untouchable, unimpeachable pillar of Boston sports. As we all know now, that time has long since past. By May, 2009, when Ortiz was in the midst of a horrendous slump, the knives had come out. The media began a feeding frenzy, proclaiming the death of Big Papi, badgering Tito on benching Ortiz, and otherwise inciting sedition and insurrection among the fanbase (not that we need much encouragement).

Last year, when it became clear that Ortiz was mired in something horrible, some fans began to turn on him. Others sought to support him, cheering and encouraging him at the plate. For all that is made of Red Sox Nation's animus, we will support our superstars when they struggle (unlike certain Manhattan-based organizations). And Ortiz eventually came roaring back: after May 31, he hit .264 / .356 / .548 with 27 homeruns. The first 58 games ensured his batting average would stay low, but he provided the Sox with big hits and runs over the next 104.

This year has been different. With the memory of early 2009 still fresh in our minds, many fans had zero tolerance for another slow start. After every bad at-bat, every late swing on which Ortiz looks hopelessly outmatched, every mistake that is weakly fouled off, the ill feelings grew. Within the first week of baseball, people were calling for him to be benched, traded, or released.

Ever since it's been 2009 all over again, although there have been fewer outpourings of good will, and much more animus. And there's another important difference - it looks like the real Big Papi is coming back sooner.

Star-divide

In the last 14 games, Ortiz is hitting .375 / .382 / .688. Overall in May, he's hitting .359 / .381 / .769 with 5 home runs. This is a massive improvement over April's .143 /  .238 / .286 line: his on-base plus slugging percentage (OPS) has more than doubled from .524 to 1.150. If Ortiz can build on this hot-streak, his final numbers could be much better than 2009's. Ortiz seems healthy and looks sharper at the plate, so maybe it's time to backup the bus we've thrown him under.

Lest we forget, other Red Sox players have gone through similar year-long slumps. Mike Lowell certainly looked "done" in 2005, when he was the $9 million salary dump on the Josh Beckett deal. That year Mikey's OPS was .658, about 150 points below his career average. To the shock and delight of Red Sox nation, Lowell bounced back and provided great production from 2006-2008.

And every player slumps. I remember stretches where the mighty Manny Ramirez looked woeful at the plate (ex. May, 2005: .725 OPS). In baseball, a game where every at-bat results in failure 60-70% of the time, you can't expect any player to be perfect, let alone 'consistent.' We can hope for a player to try hisbest, and after a poor season, to bounce back from disappointment or injury and reinvent himself.

It's not like Ortiz hasn't reinvented himself before. Prior to becoming a member of the Red Sox, he toiled in the vaunted Minnesota Twins organization, struggling to hit opposite field singles instead of following his natural swing. Nowadays, with the league accustomed to batting to him, wrist injury issues, and a massive shift to fight, Ortiz has a lot to contend with. But as he showed from June onward last year, he can still punish major league pitching.

There's still a lot of baseball to be played, and Ortiz is on the wrong side of thirty. Nevertheless, it's far too early to write him off, let alone run him out of town. Let's give Papi a chance to impress us.

Poll
What does Papi's recent hot-streak mean to you?
Nothing. He's done, toast, kaput; he's got nada, nil, nihil, nothing. Trade him for a bag a' balls, Theo!
32 votes
It's a blip on the screen of his continued, inexorable decline.
109 votes
I'm optimistic that he's turning it around, and will finish the year with better numbers than 2009's.
162 votes
PAPI!!! The Sleeper Has Awakened!!!! (He'll hit with a .900+ OPS and 40+ HRs)
35 votes

338 votes | Poll has closed

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Drugs Delaney

After watching the play with hall ,you are right ! it was my frustration and my temper getting in the way of reasoning …………..what can i say…..:(

by RED SOX are #1 in my heart on May 17, 2010 9:54 AM EDT reply actions  

No problem

The Sox have been very frustrating so far this year. To me, nothing was worse than watching John Lackey fail to cover first base twice yesterday. Hopefully, things will turn around soon.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on May 17, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great writing man

That was spot on and reminded me of a conversation I had at baseball practice today.

Spot on man, spot on.

"I think about baseball when I wake up in the morning. I think about it all day. And I dream about it at night. The only time I don't think about it is when I'm playing it."

Carl "Yaz" Yastrzemski

by BerkshireFan on May 17, 2010 10:48 AM EDT reply actions  

man, pedroia is terrible against Sabathia

didn’t realize that.

I think the DH for tomorrow depends a lot on today- yesterday Ortiz didn’t have a hit, if his production is similar today, then Lowell is probably in, if he has another great night at the plate Ortiz probably is. Personally I’d rather see Ortiz either way, but I’ve already probably gone into enough detail about that…

by wolf9309 on May 17, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd probably consider playing Lowell against CC.

But for the love of god, can we stop batting him in the middle of the order???

Yankee Stadium is not a great fit for that matchup either. Huge Left Center makes Lowell pretty useless… since instead of leaning over, getting in front of the ball and trying to pop it into the Monster he will be popping it to shallow LF.

It goes without saying that the moment Sabathia leaves the game you go to Ortiz.

I’d still rather see Ortiz anyway.

by alskor on May 17, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yankee Stadium really hasn’t affected Mike Lowell.

At YS – .279 AVG/.325 OBP/.471 SLG (.796 OPS) – 114 PA
Career – .280 AVG/.343 OBP/.467 SLG (.810 OPS)

Lowell has faced Cash Cow 21 times: 286 AVG/.286 OBP/.333 SLG (.619 OPS). Last year, he was 3 for 12 (1 2B) v. Sabathia. David Ortiz was 2 for 8 (1 HR) against Sabathia last year.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on May 17, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

If we look at his split to each field in 2010, he’s .381/.381/.667 to LF with 33% LDs (Cough*Monster*Cough*Toast*Cough). To RF? .133/.133/.133 with 13.3% LDs. 2009 the breakdown is veryy similar.

Yes, players are often better to their pull side, and yes, SSS…. Intuitively, with the offensive approach Lowell has one would think YS is a bad fit. Especially off a guy like Sabathia – who he can’t even think of going oppo against.

by alskor on May 17, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Ortiz eventually came roaring back: after May 31, he hit .264"

.264 is not exactly a roaring comeback. For a DH, especially, it’s kind of a halfhearted ‘meow’.

Also, this “I’m a superior fan cause I did/believed/said [fill in the blank]” stuff has gotten really, really old. Fans who expressed legitimate concern about Ortiz are every bit as ‘good’ fanwise as those who, frankly, offer blind support.

‘Bad’ fans are the ones calling the guy names. And I’d never boo him, either. I know full well what he’s done in the past, and I respect that. I also know that even Ted Williams had to hang ’em up at some point. At some point, all playing careers do end.

“Mike Lowell certainly looked “done” in 2005"

Maybe to you, he looked ‘done’. To me, it appeared to be a consequence of switching teams – a fairly common occurrence. Ortiz, on the other hand, was in no such transition last year.

Likewise, last year Tek to me looked like a guy worn out by setting a Red Sox career record for games caught. This year, he’s being platooned and performing at a much higher level.

I understand the concept of ‘mitigating circumstances’. What are the mitigating circumstances behind Ortiz’ dismal performance the first half of last year and the majority (so far) of this year? No one really knows, and since no reasonable explanation exists, it is NOT AT ALL unreasonable for a fan to be concerned that his career has run its course.

“And every player slumps.”

Do tell! The point is to discern the difference between a slump and the inevitable deterioration in performance that precedes the ending of careers.

“It’s not like Ortiz hasn’t reinvented himself before.”

True. The Twins did not know Ortiz would become the clutch home run machine the Red Sox wound up with. On the other hand, the Sox did not really know it, either.

But your implication is that Ortiz is about to ‘reinvent’ himself yet again. Into what, exactly? Back into a singles’ hitter? No thanks. The Sox do not need Ortiz to ‘reinvent’ himself. They need what they already had.

If there’s any confusion about that, let’s straighten it up right now. Ortiz does not need (and is probably not trying) to ‘reinvent’ anything. He is trying to fix what’s very evidently broken. The looming question is: Is what’s broken TOO broken to fix?

Big ‘fail’ on the ‘reinvention’ meme.

Finally: Re the ‘comeback’ stats you’re citing:

1) A sample that small does not constitute proof of a ‘comeback’.
2) Those stats were taken mainly while Ortiz was being platooned. What happens when the platoon ends (if it has, in fact, ended)?

by Mister Snitch on May 17, 2010 11:40 AM EDT reply actions  

Remember this Ortiz quote from 2009:

“Just write down, Big Papi stinks”
Talk about pressing.

It seems, like most slumps, the problem is the six inches between his ears.
I see better bat speed and timing this year. He’s in better condition. Now can he handle the mental part of the equation?

JD Drew has found his way out of his early season slump. How much can Magadan help Ortiz ? How about Bob Tewksbury?

" Play Ball "

by went9 on May 17, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with a lot of what you're saying

but one big thing I don’t- I’ll take an OPS of .900 from a DH anyday, sure. It’s not like that line last year was a career high or anything, but it was a more than acceptable performance out of a DH

also, Mike Lowell didn’t change teams in 2005, are you suggesting that his .150 point difference in OPS between 2005 and 2006 and then sustaining higher numbers was a result of switching teams? If that is the case, I’d recommend Theo takes a new tact of trading our entire team for new players every year.

by wolf9309 on May 17, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s not like Ortiz hasn’t reinvented himself before.

There’s an elephant in the room here, and his name is “Supplements”.

by bdunc8 on May 17, 2010 1:00 PM EDT reply actions  

I know.

However, that elephant was passed around through MLB. I think Ortiz can still hit 30 bombs with a good OBP / slugging percentage without steroids. He probably won’t have any more 40+ homerun seasons.

I think (hope) we can say that he’s playing clean right now.

We have lingered in the chambers of the sea /
By sea-girls wreathed with seaweed red and brown /
Till human voices wake us, and we drown.

by 0157H7 on May 17, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

If only the media incited sedation instead of sedition

Things would be a lot more chill. ;-)

"You know you're having a bad day when the fifth inning rolls around and they drag the warning track." - Mike Flanagan, Baltimore Orioles pitcher, 1992.

by SoxDevil on May 17, 2010 1:12 PM EDT reply actions  

remember ?

Remember the days when players when to spring training, wanting as many at-bats as possible … wanting to come out of the gate hot, when the season started? Maybe some of these ‘over paid hitters’ should take another look at the old school approach? They might be ready to hit in April, instead of May.

by Old Fan on May 17, 2010 1:45 PM EDT reply actions  

So, your theory is what?

None of these people work over the offseason? I’d love to somehow back that up.

Galactus does as he pleases. Because Galactus is drunk.

@#$%ing Twit: @blogtard

by Bloggy on May 17, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't do what the mariners do. they trade alot of their players to other teams and then

they win world series titles. randy johnson, jamie moyer, i think mike cameron and they traded griffey during his prime years. now griffey falls asleep during the games. worst front office in baseball. traded for eric bedard too. that was and is a disaster.

I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. I was building a house, I don't deserve this, deserves have nothing to do with it. Bang. "Unforgiven" I drink your milkshake. I drink it up! "There Will BE Blood". Hell is just a word, the reality is much much worse." Event Horizon". Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you're not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean, I mean plumb, mad dog mean. cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live or win. That's just the way it is. "The Outlaw Josey Wales". "And that's just what these hustlers look for. They cruise from casino to casino looking for weak dealers the way lions look for weak antelope". Ace Rothstein, The Movie "Casino" 1995.

by wolfmanshowlforever on May 17, 2010 4:04 PM EDT reply actions  

they have a recent new GM so that may be changing somewhat

not the the results lately have them looking any better…

by wolf9309 on May 17, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

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