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Tigers Lay Into Lackey as Sox Fall Back to .500

When the Red Sox signed John Lackey to a 5 year deal, they were expecting a lot more than this. The man who was supposed to throw strikes, get outs, and pick up wins did anything but today, allowing 5 runs over the first 4 innings. While he cleaned up his act as the game went on, the hole had already been dug.

A depleted Red Sox offense featuring only 4 starters was stymied by Armando Galarraga, making his first appearance of the year in a spot start necessitated by the Tiger's double-header against the Yankees. Galarraga was wild at first, but quickly got on a roll, and only allowed 1 run in 5.2 innings pitched. The Tigers bullpen closed the game out scoreless, if messily, and the Sox lost 5-1.

Coming into the series with 3 presumably winnable matchups, the Red Sox' bullpen blew the 2nd game, and Lackey and the Lineup failed to bring home a win today. Instead of being anywhere from 2-4 games above .500, they are back to dead even, and still well behind in the AL East.

It's put up or shut up time against the Yankees.

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I'm back on the wagon...

They suck.

There are no stupid questions, but there are a LOT of inquisitive idiots.

by return2greatness on May 16, 2010 4:13 PM EDT reply actions  

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in 5 – 4 – 3 – 2 …

Rock me, sexy Jesus...

by nuthinboutnuthin on May 16, 2010 4:22 PM EDT reply actions  

P U

Time to change the stinky Sox .

by Old Fan on May 16, 2010 4:34 PM EDT reply actions  

I just spent a good chunk of change

to see ? this Sox team for 4 games in Seattle in July. Am I wasting my $$??

by NG on May 16, 2010 4:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Do you have to remind us after every loss that you have spent a good chunk of Dollars on a Dish Package?

Westmoreland recently asked his son how he was feeling, and the response the father received didn't surprise him. "I'm going to be in Portland next year," Ryan said.

by radiohix on May 16, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well

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Westmoreland recently asked his son how he was feeling, and the response the father received didn't surprise him. "I'm going to be in Portland next year," Ryan said.

by radiohix on May 16, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

why did we sign this ugly piece of &%%$§?

It was so obvious. Everything pointed towards decline. Steady decline in K/9. Always outperforming his xFIP. Right now Lackey isnt even getting unlucky he just flat out sucks. Why did a supposely sabre friendly GM sign this guy? I didnt like it from the beginning and unfortunatly it seems true. That what makes me sick the most we get rid of bad contracts the next year but we just added 2 giant bad contracts in Lackey and Beckett! Good Job Theo!

by German Red Sox Fan on May 16, 2010 6:21 PM EDT reply actions  

sigh

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by bestbostonsports on May 16, 2010 6:40 PM EDT reply actions  

I was ok with signing Lackey

since I figured it guaranteed not resigning Beckett. But now that we’ve also extended Beckett, what the hell was the point? Why do we need 2 overpriced, declining pitchers?

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by Sean O on May 16, 2010 6:45 PM EDT reply actions  

correction:

the sox bullpen DID NOT blow the second game against the tigers. terry francona blew the second game by leaving okajima in the game after the second batter he faced. this has happened on about a dozen times over the last three years. francona leaves pitchers in the game far longer than he should. what’s more important the pitcher’s confidence or winning the game?
screw the pitcher’s confidence; if they can’t take it, they should retire. if a relief pitcher comes in and walks the first batter and the second batter gets a hit, yank that failure out of the game immediately. mlb is not a nursery school soccer game where you don’t count the scores.

by ED4REDSOX on May 16, 2010 8:26 PM EDT reply actions  

i mean yes but

it was still because okajima sucked

by wolf9309 on May 17, 2010 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pesky...

I’ll tell you what your new profile picture is tomorrow during the game.

I LOVE PEDROIA!!! ITS MAN LOVE!

by kraken613 on May 16, 2010 8:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh Lord..

You don't save a pitcher for tomorrow. Tomorrow it may rain. ~Leo Durocher May 1965

by Pesky Fan on May 16, 2010 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well I'll just post it here.

I am editing it right now. Lets just say it includes OTM’s favorite horse faced wife.

I LOVE PEDROIA!!! ITS MAN LOVE!

by kraken613 on May 16, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

done

You don't save a pitcher for tomorrow. Tomorrow it may rain. ~Leo Durocher May 1965

by Pesky Fan on May 16, 2010 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

LMAO

I love winning bets…..

I LOVE PEDROIA!!! ITS MAN LOVE!

by kraken613 on May 16, 2010 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

so let's see

Oki puts the first 2 guys on. You bring in Delcarmen? Yeah, that would have done it.

by Buzzy on May 16, 2010 8:37 PM EDT reply actions  

I may start the bring Pujols to Boston campaign.

I think it can be done, flame away.

Let's talk some baseball

by gizmosandy on May 16, 2010 8:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Pujols does not help our pitching.

Our offense is one of the best in baseball right now. However we have allowed more runs than any team other than LAA, PIT and MIL. Seperately our pen and starters rank near league bottom. Unless Pujols can pitch this is not addressing our weakness.

by Buzzy on May 16, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

this year is not exactly what I had in mind with that statement.

this year we are looking at a 3rd place finish.

This year appears to be over.

Let's talk some baseball

by gizmosandy on May 16, 2010 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

MFY lost today

You don't save a pitcher for tomorrow. Tomorrow it may rain. ~Leo Durocher May 1965

by Pesky Fan on May 16, 2010 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is over

if our pitching does not start pitching up to ability (the starters I mean-the pen needs to be bolstered anyway). That can happen, and then it is not over by a long shot, but I we keep getting 3/5 performances like this come end of June it may well be.

by Buzzy on May 16, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't think so

i think if they continue to be this bad (which seems well-nigh impossible),rather than keeping them all around, Theo will pull his signature release-a-well-paid-player move and we can hear people bitching about paying Beckett (or whoever’s) salary for years to come.

by wolf9309 on May 17, 2010 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't understand why posters here think that Beckett will suck for the rest of the season

His velocity is at his career level
He’s getting swings and misses (something you can’t say about Lackey)
and he’s not the kind of pitcher that walks that many people
Actually I think from what I saw this far that in terms of stuff: The worst pitcher is Lackey!

Westmoreland recently asked his son how he was feeling, and the response the father received didn't surprise him. "I'm going to be in Portland next year," Ryan said.

by radiohix on May 16, 2010 9:04 PM EDT reply actions  

True

I agree w/r to both-however I wan’t to believe that Lackey is not this bad. Unfortunately there is strong reason to believe he mostly is this bad.

by Buzzy on May 16, 2010 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep

When you look at the 1st AB of Avila: The guy was pounding the zone and he couldn’t get him out because the lack of that out pitch: It was FB, CT or CB and here’s a mediocre hitter making contact every time he swings so he went looking for the O-swing and he walked him!
At least when I saw Dice-K: There were times when he throw something in the zone and the hitters swung at it and came empty so you tell your self “Damn stop nibbling and throw it there!” and when he became aggressive with it, the results showed up: This is not the case with Lackey!

Westmoreland recently asked his son how he was feeling, and the response the father received didn't surprise him. "I'm going to be in Portland next year," Ryan said.

by radiohix on May 16, 2010 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Avila

is so bad that:
a)He is only on the team because he is the son of the assistant GM.
b)He is the same guy that RamRam (I think) Ked on 3 pitches the night before.

That is how bad he is. And he drew a 13 pitch BB off of “Big John.”

by Buzzy on May 16, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just to add on how BAD "Big John" stuff was

He threw 123 pitches, 83 of them were strikes and he got 2 swings and misses! Yeah T-W-O! ’Nuff said!

Westmoreland recently asked his son how he was feeling, and the response the father received didn't surprise him. "I'm going to be in Portland next year," Ryan said.

by radiohix on May 16, 2010 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

ouch.

What was his FB velocity?

by mmmmm on May 16, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

John Lackey hate....

….I feed off it….I feel vindicated….powerful…..all powerful….

Galactus does as he pleases. Because Galactus is drunk.

@#$%ing Twit: @blogtard

by Bloggy on May 17, 2010 9:12 AM EDT reply actions  

I know you are partially

joking (and partially serious!)-but regardless we need a solid Lackey for any chance at success this year. The funny thing:

Hix is right-Lackey’s swinging strike percentage is way lower than his career average and his recent years (5.5%-down from ~8.5%). However, so is…Andy Petitte’s! Somehow Pettitte is putting up those great #s with a swinging strike percentage of 4.7%

All of this hopefully illustrates that it is too early still to find great mining in our pitching failures. By FIP we are not pitching much worse than the Rays and Yankees (our starters I mean-our pen sucks by any measure). However our pitchers are struggling with bad strand rates (horrible), some high BABIPs, etc. By contrast, the Rays and Yankees have totally crazy and unsustainable strand rates, etc. That can’t continue for all pitchers on these staffs. The bad news is we have seen cases where a given pitcher can have a complete fluke of a year in those regards-and maybe this is just going to be a year we we fall on the shit side of this and the Rays and Yankees fall on the rosey side.

by Buzzy on May 17, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

We need a solid Lackey for any chance at success...

…the next five years. >:(

Galactus does as he pleases. Because Galactus is drunk.

@#$%ing Twit: @blogtard

by Bloggy on May 17, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

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