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Red Sox Can't Overcome Ramirez' Meltdown

Chalk up a 3rd straight spring training defeat for the Red Sox. The Mets managed a 4-2 victory, scoring all 4 runs in the 8th off of Ramon Ramirez, who did not record a single out.

Other than Ramon Ramirez, the Red Sox pitching was great throughout. Lackey gave up a pair of hits in the first, but escaped without giving up a run. After the first, Lackey would retire the next nine batters he faced, and Papelbon would bring the streak of batters retired to 12. Okajima gave up a hit in the 6th, but struck out 2 and looked good in his appearance. Dan Bard had a 1-2-3 inning, trying out his changeup again, and Manny Delcarmen had a 1-2-3 inning in the 9th, looking kind of dominant. Brian Shouse had to clean up Ramon Ramirez' mess for him, giving up a hit by pitch and sac fly to the Mets while getting the 3 outs Ramirez could not.

Offensively, the Sox did manage to score a couple runs on 7 hits, unlike yesterday. There were a lot of hard-hit balls that just didn't fall for the Sox, but Pedroia, Cameron, Ortiz, Hall, Reddick, Hermida, and Angel Sanchez all managed hits. The team did not, however, manage a single walk today despite being amongst the leaders in bases on balls throughout spring training.

Notes:

  • Early in the game, Lackey took a grounder off his foot, but told reporters it had hit harmlessly off the bottom in the clubhouse
  • The Sox were at work defensively. The Mets scored their runs in the 8th off 2 walks, a home run, and a sacrifice fly. Beltre was all over the place.
  • 13 groundouts, 7 flyouts for the Sox. If the Sox can keep the ball on the ground, opposing teams will not be scoring many runs.

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Beltre, Reddick, Lackey

Beltre was incredible in the field. I am starting to get unusually excited every time the opposing team hits anything in the general vacinity of third base…guy is a vaccum.

If they ever create a Spring Training Baseball Hall of Fame, Josh Reddick is a sure fire first-ballot inductee. For the record, I vote that we refer to him as Josh Reddick[ulous] from here on out…I think that nickname has potential.

Lackey pitched really, really well. However, that “thing covering the front of his skull” has yet to show any signs of improvement this spring.

"97 mph coming in and 197 mph goin' out." - Dustin Pedroia yelling at Mike Pelfrey mid-home run trot at ASU.

by Logan Lietz on Mar 17, 2010 5:52 PM EDT reply actions  

I am starting to get unusually excited every time the opposing team hits anything in the general vacinity of third base

I would suggest that you just calm down and think of baseball, but obviously that isn’t going to work…

=)

Rock me, sexy Jesus...

by nuthinboutnuthin on Mar 17, 2010 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

on the contrary

this is where the previously mentioned “thing covering the front of Lackey’s skull” comes in handy.

"97 mph coming in and 197 mph goin' out." - Dustin Pedroia yelling at Mike Pelfrey mid-home run trot at ASU.

by Logan Lietz on Mar 17, 2010 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nickname

I like Josh Reddick[ulous].

That will stick.

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by Randy Booth on Mar 18, 2010 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ramon Ramirez...

…someone isn’t making the 25 man team.

Sure as hell hope Reddick makes it though. Still rocking my Reddick jersey from last year!

by Justin_Bobo on Mar 17, 2010 6:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Ramon Ramirez

Will most definitely be on the 25 man.

And Reddick is destined for AAA almost without fail.

USG

by Ben Buchanan on Mar 17, 2010 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Could be a 2 for 1 DFA special...

on Ramon Ramirezes. What the hell happened to the original RR that just got guys out?

"Is everyone in my life freakin' bananas?" - Tony Soprano

by OH-FOUR on Mar 17, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Beltre

beast

Trade Beckett before the deadline
JD Drew the stud who is.
I'm taking suggestions from myself on the 2010 rally song.
Re-sign Victor Martinez, the future DH of the Boston Red Sox
Am I supposed to like John Lackey ?

by gizmosandy on Mar 17, 2010 7:10 PM EDT reply actions  

can i say

RAmon Ramirez sucks or is there a special stat somewhere that i dont know about that makes him awesome?

by celtsfan1 on Mar 17, 2010 8:41 PM EDT reply actions  

His credit score?

"97 mph coming in and 197 mph goin' out." - Dustin Pedroia yelling at Mike Pelfrey mid-home run trot at ASU.

by Logan Lietz on Mar 17, 2010 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

figured

according to u i have no idea why we ever lose when every player we have is good. LOL!!!!!!!!!

by celtsfan1 on Mar 17, 2010 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

NOPE

here is the list of people who suck on the sox
J.D. Drew
ramon ramirez
manny delcarmen
wakefield
varitek (even though he used to be could and i liked him)

by celtsfan1 on Mar 18, 2010 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

How does Wakefield suck? You’re joking right?

by Justin_Bobo on Mar 18, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

i know

once again, sorry all of are players are good!!!!!!!!!!!

by celtsfan1 on Mar 18, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nope

Varitek sucks, MDC is horribly inconsistent, and of course our bench players are not exactly impressive.

But otherwise, yes, pretty much every player on our team* is good. Why should we expect less when we pay $170 million?

*Not considering guys like Bonser who might make the team. Not a fan of Bonser.

USG

by Ben Buchanan on Mar 18, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

wow!!!!!!!!!

ur showing signs of progress actually saying something bad about someone wearing a sox jersey

by celtsfan1 on Mar 18, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

The "original"

Whenever we talk about “the other”, it should be amended as such. Or as RamARam

USG

by Ben Buchanan on Mar 17, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

people forget how good the original was 1st half of last season

Trade Beckett before the deadline
JD Drew the stud who is.
I'm taking suggestions from myself on the 2010 rally song.
Re-sign Victor Martinez, the future DH of the Boston Red Sox
Am I supposed to like John Lackey ?

by gizmosandy on Mar 18, 2010 7:36 AM EDT reply actions  

yes!

he was awesome for the first half. As long as he doesn’t get overworked, hopefully he can be back to that.

by wolf9309 on Mar 18, 2010 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

And people forget that MDC was good before last year

When putting together a bullpen all you can do is collect good arms. Relief pitchers can be inconsistent from year-to-year. Then again, if they were truly great pitchers, they’d be starters.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Mar 18, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

MDC's way of being inconsistent is just a lot more troubling then RamRam's

When Ram Ram gets in trouble, he does it the same way any other good reliever does. When MDC gets in trouble, he walks the bases loaded on 15 pitches. And Ramirez’ inconsistence is really a lot better than Delcarmen’s.

USG

by Ben Buchanan on Mar 18, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hard to say (we've only seen RamRam for one year)

Part of the problem with predicting relievers from year-to-year has to do with sample size—they pitch very few innings during a season. Both pitchers have fairly similar career numbers. Here’s a career comparison:

MDC (240.1 IP) 7.90 K/9 3.86 BB/9 3.74 ERA/3.69 FIP/3.85 tRA/4.23 xFIP 1.32 GB/FB
Ram Ram (226.1 IP) 7.87 K/9 3.82 BB/9 3.38 ERA/3.66 FIP/3.62 tRA/4.43 xFIP 0.90 GB/FB

Based on that, I prefer MDC because he throws more GBs.

Both pitchers had high BB-rates last year. MDC’s was worse (5.13 BB/9 compared to 4.13 BB/9 for RamRam). It has been suggested that MDC hid an injury last year, and his numbers seem to show that. His K-rate dropped, while his BB-rate, FB%, LD%, and BABIP all increased. Both pitchers were pretty brutal late in the season. If both are healthy, I prefer MDC because I like his lefty/righty splits better than RamRam’s. Neither of them should pitch high-leverage innings until they prove themselves this year.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Mar 18, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

MDC sucks and should be traded

Trade Beckett before the deadline
JD Drew the stud who is.
I'm taking suggestions from myself on the 2010 rally song.
Re-sign Victor Martinez, the future DH of the Boston Red Sox
Am I supposed to like John Lackey ?

by gizmosandy on Mar 18, 2010 6:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Should have been traded

About 9 months ago. Too late to bother, now. Better to see if we can’t get his value up again.

USG

by Ben Buchanan on Mar 18, 2010 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

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