JD drew
by steelersfamily7@aol.com on Feb 24, 2010 10:58 AM EST
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listen drew stinks his average is not very good or good enough to play on the sox totally doesnt hit enough homers he is also to slow cant steal bases he is getting old cant play the field good enough if the ball isnt hit within 2 ft of him he just watches the ball fall why is it that u people like this guy drew and wakefield tooooo old to play on a team like the sox cmon guys with the money we spend having drew on the field with all the stars on our team is a joke do u think the yankees would ever put a guy like him in their outfield pleasseee
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Rec this to the freakin' moon!
Rage against punctuation! STEAM OF CONSCIOUSNESS! YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!
Galactus does as he pleases. Because Galactus is drunk.
I have a five-tool player in my pants.
I had to.
Galactus does as he pleases. Because Galactus is drunk.
I have a five-tool player in my pants.
And I can't delete just 1 rec.
I’m going to have to live with seeing this post recommended…forever.
Undo it! Please! What if someone comes along, sees this as being recommended, and then thinks this is what we really believe? WHAT THEN? WHAT?!!!
USG
by Ben Buchanan on Feb 24, 2010 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
WELL
I AM AFRAID I WILL NOT LISTEN TO ANYTHING U SAY BEN BUCHANAN SO LONG AS U USE PUNCTUATION BECAUSE PUNCTUATION IS STUPID AND I DONT NEED IT AND NEITHER DO U
Galactus does as he pleases. Because Galactus is drunk.
I have a five-tool player in my pants.
I was so sure I'd find this guy was someone's alt. account when I checked.
Nope.
Anyways, so very much wrong with this. Like, everything.
1) Drew was the best offensive right fielder last year by most reasonable measures (N/I Ben Zobrist)
2) Drew has been a well above-average right fielder for his whole career.
3) Drew is a star on this team.
USG
yup
according to u he is a true gamebreaker and hall of famer surrrreeee!!!!!! im sure we will see him in the hall real soon nnnooooottttt
by steelersfamily7@aol.com on Feb 24, 2010 11:13 AM EST reply actions
no one's said he is a hall of famer
but he is a very, very solid player. One of the best offensive outfielders in the AL- this is true, check any stats. One of the best defensive outfielders- he just makes it look easy because he knows where the ball is going to drop. He’s paid like a very good outfielder, not like a superstar, and he performs like a very good outfielder.
I don’t every understand how people can have an issue with Drew getting $14 million a year, and these are nearly always the same people that complain that the Sox didn’t sign Bay for $16 million a year.
this tells me something
u would rather have drew for 14 mill than bay for 16 mill hahahahaha
by steelersfamily7@aol.com on Feb 24, 2010 11:21 AM EST reply actions
WAR Baby
look it up. Learn it, live it. Bay is a much worse outfielder (by much worse I mean way way worse. As in cost you games worse). He plays a less important position. And is offense is only about 1 to 1.5 wins better, while is defense is like 4 wins worse. Go read a book.
Courtesy NESN
“Due primarily to his exceptional ability to get on base (.390 OBP with the Red Sox), Drew ranks 10th among outfielders since 2007 in OPS (.875.) In the past two seasons, that percentage has shot to .920, third among all outfielders, behind only Manny Ramirez and Matt Holliday.”
$14 MM for Drew > $16 MM for Bay.
Yes, I'd much rather have Drew
Bay is a worse player.
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on Feb 24, 2010 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
sorry
ritz sorry mr. educated dont care about punctuation didnt waste thousands of dollars going to college for no reason
by steelersfamily7@aol.com on Feb 24, 2010 11:23 AM EST reply actions
You must not have gone to high school either.
If I was your math homework I'd be really hard and you'd be doing me on your desk.
I'm a 7 WAR player in bed.
by TheLoneDavid on Feb 24, 2010 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
If you're posting on a website, you clearly want to get your point across.
But by making your posts difficult and, in some cases impossible to read (for instance, the post I’m replying to here makes it sound like you DID go to college, since “for no reason” implies that you had a reason to waste money in going to college), you make it harder for people to both take you seriously, and even if they do, to understand what you’re saying.
USG
by Ben Buchanan on Feb 24, 2010 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
Actually still in HS.
But I do appreciate you adding a period at the end of “mr.” Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.
by ritz on Feb 24, 2010 2:17 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This has to be a joke.
Absolutely 200% has to be a joke.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
If it is
then this guy needs to go look up the definition of funny. This is just sad.
If I was your math homework I'd be really hard and you'd be doing me on your desk.
I'm a 7 WAR player in bed.
by TheLoneDavid on Feb 24, 2010 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
nope
dropped out in 10th grade school is for people who need to be taught everything cause they cant figure things out for themselves
by steelersfamily7@aol.com on Feb 24, 2010 11:35 AM EST reply actions
Figure out the reply button.
USG
by Ben Buchanan on Feb 24, 2010 11:41 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Well you've certainly figured life out.
Way to go, we’re all very proud of you.
If I was your math homework I'd be really hard and you'd be doing me on your desk.
I'm a 7 WAR player in bed.
by TheLoneDavid on Feb 24, 2010 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
Send this thread to Obama now
If this isn’t the most convincing argument for increased spending on education I don’t know what is.
by Gnick on Feb 26, 2010 8:11 PM EST up reply actions
HAHAHA!!!! I'm Dying!!! HAHA!!!
This is the funniest post/thread/conversation of the offseason. Right Here!
"Hating the New York Yankees is as American as apple pie, unwed mothers and cheating on your income tax." -- Mike Royko
by sox-inda-south on Feb 28, 2010 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
could have been perfect
cameron ellsbury and bay and nobody would have cared what drew was doing
by steelersfamily7@aol.com on Feb 24, 2010 11:37 AM EST reply actions
How can you deny that Drew is a very good offensive player?
We sign Bay, and we have effectively a DH who, in 2 or 3 years, will be a mediocre offensive player because his game is not the type that ages well at all. Problem is we’ll still be paying him $16 million.
We keep Drew, and for the next 2 years we have a top offensive and defensive right fielder who we drop right as he hits that age where players tend to decline, allowing us a shot at acquiring a new, younger replacement. He’s a perfect contract.
USG
by Ben Buchanan on Feb 24, 2010 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
hey
bay in left cameron in cent and ellsbury in right theres ur defense as for offense bay put up good numbers the offense stunk because big papi fell off the face of the earth ohh remember nope because he did do so much in the past years we dont wanna blame him right!!!!
by steelersfamily7@aol.com on Feb 24, 2010 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
I've never said this to anyone before...
but have you considered becoming a Yankee fan?
You would fit right in.
Ellsbury
can’t play right because his arm is too weak. Plus he is worse offensively than Drew is. Bay is among the worst defensive outfielders in the game. That outfield is far worse…
Exactly
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on Feb 24, 2010 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
Ellsbury in left, Cameron in Center, and Drew in right.
Better defense
About the same offense
And without a contract that will be a huge hindrance to us come 2013.
We all know Ortiz had bad problems last year and the year before. His 2nd half was encouraging, but nothing like old Papi, and I don’t really expect much better. But last year the offense was very good. We scored the 3rd most runs of any team in the majors.
USG
by Ben Buchanan on Feb 24, 2010 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
We scored
an amount of runs that puts us in the top 15 for the last 8 years among all teams.
Clearly, though, that means it stunk.
USG
by Ben Buchanan on Feb 24, 2010 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
Didn't you hear?
Starting last year, baseball changed to golf rules. Scoring runs is a bad thing.
If I was your math homework I'd be really hard and you'd be doing me on your desk.
I'm a 7 WAR player in bed.
by TheLoneDavid on Feb 24, 2010 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
ok according to u guys
drew will put up way better numbers then bay
bay= .267 avg. / sb 13 / hr36/ rbi 119
drew= .279 avg. / sb 2 / hr24 / rbi 68
where is the argument bay crushes drew and had a better fielding % so what are guys talking about ??
by steelersfamily7@aol.com on Feb 24, 2010 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
Statistics that actually mean something.
If I was your math homework I'd be really hard and you'd be doing me on your desk.
I'm a 7 WAR player in bed.
by TheLoneDavid on Feb 24, 2010 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
Nobody said he'll put up way better numbers than Bay.
Just that he’ll put up pretty equal numbers and we won’t have to pay him 4 years from now when he’s broken down and decrepit.
Drew: .279/.392/.522
Bay: .267/.384/.537
Very similar. The reason Bay has a ton of RBIs is that he spent his year batting behind 3 guys with high on-base abilities while Drew spent his year batting behind David Ortiz and Mike Lowell, who each excelled at making outs.
USG
by Ben Buchanan on Feb 24, 2010 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
Bay had a great fielding percentage
because if you can’t get to balls, you can’t make errors on them. He was a bad fielder. He was a great offensive player, better than Drew, but Drew provides more value because he can play the field (very well), is cheaper, and will be out of contract for his decline.
so now i made my point
now the excuse is that he is cheaper and he is old and done thats my exact point people bay has a future and drew is done helllooo!!!!
by steelersfamily7@aol.com on Feb 24, 2010 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
no no no
Bay does not have a future. You missed my point. He is a bad fielder who will decline quickly over the course of his current contract.
No one has ever said that Drew is a better offensive player than Bay, just that he is a better player. You have made no points. You are forgetting that there is a defensive element to the game and the very fact that you would use fielding pct as a judge of that shows that you have no concept of how to value it.
Fielding pct is as valuable for judging a player’s defense as judging a player’s offense based on how many home runs they hit against lefties every alternate wednesday.
ok got it
drew is awesome bay is bad wow im very confused i will make sure to pick up drew instead of bay in fantasy
by steelersfamily7@aol.com on Feb 24, 2010 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
It might help if you followed the guys when they grabbed their gloves and went into the field
instead of just at the plate.
Bay is an epically bad defender – ended up probably worse than Manny. Its clear his knees arent right, IMO. He runs like he has a load in his pants and lets everything drop. He never goes hard for a ball.
JD Drew is a very good defender who gets great reads and jumps on balls and makes tough plays look easy. If you watched them both play the same position one game (instead of Drew in gigantic RF and Bay in tiny LF) it would be eminently clear that Drew is many times better a fielder.
Bay IS a better hitter than Drew – but Bay has the profile of a guy who is in an early decline. Every year he strikes out more and makes less contact. His knees are shot and he can’t run and he’s really maybe a year and a half from being able to play 1B only. He’s really, really good at taking a walk and hitting for power – but I wouldnt want to commit 4 or 5 years of big money to a guy like that.
If Jason Bay would have signed for Mike Cameron’s contract he would still be on this team. He’s not a bad player but he wanted much more than he was worth.
also
if drew is so much better then bay why didnt we just switch them in the batting order ???? cmon the defense drew is so much better at is worth the rbi and homers bay hits i dont think sooooo
by steelersfamily7@aol.com on Feb 24, 2010 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
did you read my post
or just respond to it? I said that Bay was a better offensive player in 2009.
Also RBI are not a plyer dependant stat- it is dependant on the rest of the team being on base when the player comes to bat. It’s not like Bay’s RBIs are just runs he created by himself.
But let me say again, Bay was a better offensive player in 2009 than Drew. Drew was miles better defensively, and not a ton worse offensively- all around a much better player.
sure
thats why the yanks won it all the amazing pitching wow!!!!!!!!
by steelersfamily7@aol.com on Feb 24, 2010 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
+1
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on Feb 24, 2010 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
+2 and rec'd
Galactus does as he pleases. Because Galactus is drunk.
I have a five-tool player in my pants.
See, I would think this is accurate.
But he’s making equally irrational posts on other blogs. I actually agree with him on one of them (Doc Rivers being a mediocre coach) if only on the overall point and not the arguments (or, as usual, lack thereof) used.
USG
by Ben Buchanan on Feb 24, 2010 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
So he is making equally irrational posts on other blogs
and that lets you believe he isnt your typical internet troll? For me its rather proof he is. Your wasting all your time answering this guy with long explanations why Drew is underrated and all he does is give you a 2 sentence answer which makes no sense and you again reply with a long post. He is only here to provoke and he gets some weird enjoyment out of this.
by German Red Sox Fan on Feb 24, 2010 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
who isn't a mediocre coach in the nba?
like tom landry said as to his coaching success “good players, good players”
we will win
we will win it all now that drew returns to right field super drew never hits any walk off runs never in a highlight but according to u guys if we released him he would be the most sought after player in the league hahahaha
by steelersfamily7@aol.com on Feb 24, 2010 1:31 PM EST reply actions
October, 2007
If I was your math homework I'd be really hard and you'd be doing me on your desk.
I'm a 7 WAR player in bed.
by TheLoneDavid on Feb 24, 2010 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
I think you need to come to the realization that HRs and RBIs are absolutely worthless stats by themselves. Getting on base is proven to be the best way to score runs, Drew has shown the ability to be one of the best players in the game at getting on base. He isn’t flashy and if you want to see a ton of long balls drive a few hours south. Bay is in decline, he can’t hit anything but fastballs and strikes out a ton, and that is only going to get worse. Drew isn’t going to have the age issues that Bay is going to find himself having. Also Drew is one of the best defensive outfielders in the game, Bay was one of the worst. And if he did become a free agent he would be one of the most sought after players available because he does everything right. Bay does a lot of things well but isn’t an all around great player.
Baseball isn’t all about highlight reels and walk off home runs, actually I prefer that we don’t ever have to hit walk off home runs, it means we let the other team stick with us.
"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.
i give up
drew is awesome nott!!!!!!!
by steelersfamily7@aol.com on Feb 24, 2010 1:53 PM EST reply actions
Notice how everyone else is making points, and you're just setting up strawmen/arguing like a 5-year old?
I mean, good God, “Not!”
Really?
USG
by Ben Buchanan on Feb 24, 2010 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
ok
if i put stas it doesnt matter yet u argue that he is great cause of defense and the stat of on base % dont start trying to outwit me i watch every game drew is not a guy we need defense in right field cmon who cares on base % in the bottom of the order who cares really but yet 119 rbi batting in the top of the line up is useless ???
by steelersfamily7@aol.com on Feb 24, 2010 2:19 PM EST reply actions
Kind of like outwitting a fallen log.
We don’t really have to try, it just happens.
If I was your math homework I'd be really hard and you'd be doing me on your desk.
I'm a 7 WAR player in bed.
by TheLoneDavid on Feb 24, 2010 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
Another post, another strawman.
Facts:
1) Nobody is saying Jason Bay is a worse offensive player than J.D. Drew. They are saying that, over the course of the contract we would have to give him, Bay would decline dramatically. J.D. Drew only has 2 years left on his, and is unlikely to decline as much since his game does not revolve around his ability to catch up to fastballs.
2) When we talk about stats, we talk about good stats. RBIs are useless. They depend on how many people you have on base, a random distribution of when you get your hits, how fast the runners are, etc. If Jason Bay grounded out 119 times with a runner on third, he would have 119 RBIs and 0 hits. Good stats are rate stats, because they show how well you performed in your opportunities. Context neutral stats are good stats because they recognize that a batter has no control over who gets on in front of him. Home Runs are nice, but power can be determined even better by slugging (a basic measure of how many bases you manage to gain
3) On base percentage is important EVERYWHERE. The batter’s main goal is to NOT MAKE AN OUT. It is this realization that allowed Theo to put together teams like he did in ’04. It is this realization that is accepted by every good GM in the league.
4) You are empirically and subjectively wrong about defense. Jason Bay is a horrible defender. Everybody recognizes this—scouts, GMs, probably even Joe Morgan who may once have called Derek Jeter the best defensive SS to ever play the game (Before you say anything, no, he too is awful defensively). J.D. Drew is a top defensive outfielder. He gets to balls that would fall in for singles every time if hit to Bay. He covers a massive RF without ever looking overmatched. He is not the best defensive fielder the world has ever seen, but he’s absolutely a plus defender.
5) Defense is important. This should be obvious, but if it’s not, let me ask you this: Do you want your hitters to get a hit, or make an out? Now, do you have a better chance at getting a hit if the opposing outfielders can run down a ball hit to the wall despite playing shallow, or if they can’t catch a ball that lands 15 feet from where they started?
Why do I bother? I don’t know. You’re clearly not trying to understand anything we’re saying, but oh well, I have an odd compulsion.
USG
by Ben Buchanan on Feb 24, 2010 2:32 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Let it go, USG
You’re wasting your time with this guy.
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on Feb 24, 2010 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
Good god
You see, as the season approach (yay), the numbers of those half assed posts will creep up (Ugh)!
"That was a lot of fun… You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." Jeff Francoeur
since we have drew i hope ur right
but im pretty sure bay would help our team more then drew. how does a comment become recommended??
by steelersfamily7@aol.com on Feb 24, 2010 2:47 PM EST reply actions
Thats something they teach in 11th grade.
Sorry.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
by CasanovaWong on Feb 24, 2010 2:54 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
darn
thou shalt continue my education past the 10th grade with a plethra of punctuation courses and rediculously expensive college tuitions then thou shalt be as wise casanovawong and understand the true meaning of life hahahaha
by steelersfamily7@aol.com on Feb 24, 2010 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
Drew is so underrated by so many clueless Sox fans...
Makes me cry…poor Drew
drew
not even in thew top 50 in sortable stats
by steelersfamily7@aol.com on Feb 24, 2010 3:16 PM EST reply actions
Well how about this, go and poll the GMs of every team in the league and see how many of them use fantasy stats to gauge the ability of their players, then give us a report of your findings. If more than half of them think that HRs, RBIs and fielding percentages are the end all, be all of baseball statistics I will leave this blog and never look back. Go out, buy a Baseball Prospectus 2010 and wait for your tiny head to explode.
"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.
Omar Minaya
"Hating the New York Yankees is as American as apple pie, unwed mothers and cheating on your income tax." -- Mike Royko
by sox-inda-south on Feb 28, 2010 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
ZING
"That was a lot of fun… You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." Jeff Francoeur
Haha!
"Hating the New York Yankees is as American as apple pie, unwed mothers and cheating on your income tax." -- Mike Royko
by sox-inda-south on Mar 2, 2010 5:12 PM EST up reply actions
ok
i would rather have reddick out there
by steelersfamily7@aol.com on Feb 24, 2010 6:30 PM EST reply actions
I second that notion.
Less Drew, more Reddick.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
by CasanovaWong on Feb 24, 2010 6:48 PM EST up reply actions
steelers, when CW starts agreeing with you on roster moves you have to know you are wrong, not because he doesn’t know anything about baseball (he does!), but because he does in fact root root root for the Yankees.
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This is all I have to say
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by David Harnden on Feb 26, 2010 6:32 PM EST up reply actions
hey booth and buchanon
i understand u guys love the red sox. But as much as ur sticking up for drew, who is so over rated by the nation. whats the problem. If u think drew is that good i would hate to see how much u like yuke lol. good lord drew is top 2or 3 lol.
by steelersfamily7@aol.com on Feb 24, 2010 9:28 PM EST reply actions
Speaking of Good Lord
Hasn’t this been proof enough that SBN needs an age limit/English competency exam as part of the registration process?
"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.
"Oxymoron" and "Paradox" are taught in English III
also known as your junior year in High School….
"Hating the New York Yankees is as American as apple pie, unwed mothers and cheating on your income tax." -- Mike Royko
by sox-inda-south on Feb 28, 2010 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
drew vs. bay
BB%: drew 15.2% > bay 14.7%
K%: drew 24.1% < bay 30.5%
OBP: drew .392 > bay .384
WAR: drew 4.8 > bay 3.5
UZR/150: drew 15.7 > -13.0
5 random stats that i found on fangraphs.
To me, its quite easy to see who’s the better player.
by China on Feb 24, 2010 10:17 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
so
only the stats that matter to u are important i got it now also all those stats are very close now add in HR RBI SB but i forgot non of those matter hahaha
by steelersfamily7@aol.com on Feb 24, 2010 10:34 PM EST reply actions
Now you are catching on
HR, RBI, SB etc are counting stats…..which of course rely on plate appearances and people being on base in front of you and many other factors like home park, etc.
Since you are so enamored with counting stats vs rate stats I took the liberty of pro-rating Drew’s 2009 stats up to 685 plate appearances (Same as Andre Either)
Drew with 685 PAs – 41 Doubles, 5 Triples, 30 Homers, 106 Runs, 86 RBI, 104 Walks
Drew’s problem is staying on the field – when he’s out there he is a top notch player
when he is out there
he is only getting older
by steelersfamily7@aol.com on Feb 24, 2010 11:54 PM EST up reply actions
But when he's not on the field he doesn't age, right?
That’s what it sounds like to me.
If I was your math homework I'd be really hard and you'd be doing me on your desk.
I'm a 7 WAR player in bed.
by TheLoneDavid on Feb 27, 2010 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
Bob - Drew has been on the field
more games than any other Sox players except Pedroia, Youk and Papi since he arrived.
And Youk and Papi are a first baseman and a DH.
I'm well aware of that..
Might point was that he didn’t pick that as an argument point – which is typical, but chose to argue that Drew can’t play/hit/field, whatever….Even an argument based upon Drew’s ability to stay on the field (as awful as that is) would have been better than his in ability to hit….
Hey
Poke around here a little bit. (And by “here” I mean the highlighted blue version of the word “here” in that last sentence.) It’s a comparison of Bay and Drew’s offensive stats over the past decades, in a nice graphic format. Look at OBP, SLG, AVG, and wOBA. They are very similar offensive players.
But the biggest problem with your argument (inasmuch as I can see an argument) is that there has never been a choice between Drew and Bay. Never.
Manny ain't the only bad man.
Wow.
I did not read the comments, but how are there 89 of them?
"Ninety percent [of my salary] I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey. The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
-Tug McGraw
After skimming the comments, this post should be deleted for the sake of everyone.
"Ninety percent [of my salary] I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey. The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
-Tug McGraw
+1
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on Feb 25, 2010 9:38 AM EST up reply actions
Nothing beneficial happened in this fanpost.
Galactus does as he pleases. Because Galactus is drunk.
I have a five-tool player in my pants.
Ok
It’s clear that you’re not a fan of the advanced stats, so lets look at some we can all agree on: AVG/OBP/SLG
Drew
2008: .280/.408/.519
2009: .279/.392/.522
How can you argue with that? How can you tell me that wouldn’t want every player on your team to put up that line? And he’s no slouch in the field either.
Devil's Advocate
You know what guys, I’ve been thinking, and this guy makes some good points. Let’s take a look at the most important stats for Drew:
ZERO MVP awards.
ZERO Silver Slugger awards.
ZERO Gold Glove awards.
That right there shows you that you can’t even talk about him among the elite.
In his time with Boston:
Never hit .300 BA
Never hit 100 RBIZ
Never hit 30 HR
Has made 12 errors
I think its time to drive this guy out of town!
Ignorance
Is truly bliss.
Whoever said it doesn't matter whether you win or lose, probably lost.
by David Harnden on Feb 26, 2010 12:12 AM EST up reply actions
How did I miss this FanPost?
Clearly I’m spending too much time working, and not enough reading Megathreads…
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By sea-girls wreathed with seaweed red and brown /
Till human voices wake us, and we drown.
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