What Kind Of Day Has It Been? The Adrian Gonzalez Edition
by Ben Buchanan on Dec 5, 2010 11:59 PM EST
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PrintEvery offseason has one day that seems to define it. 356 days ago, it was the day John Lackey signed. It started out quiet, built steam, and by the end of the night the Sox had picked up not only a new star pitcher, but a starting center fielder in Mike Cameron, too. The deals were relatively quick and simple, with little build up but plenty of mixed reactions.
Today was entirely different in just about every way. The day started with the Adrian Gonzalez deal done save for contract talks, spiraled into chaos, and then redeemed itself with the defining trade back in place. We have our newest star to the team, it's the one guy we've wanted for over a year, and reactions are almost entirely positive.
It's in that same vein of differences that I hope the end results will be different, too.
There are, of course, some sad pieces to the puzzle. Especially for those of us who follow the minor leagues. While I've never been Reymond Fuentes' biggest fan, losing Casey Kelly and Anthony Rizzo is a tough blow. There will be no more Casey Kelly days, and Rizzo will no longer be the "after the jump guy". The system, buoyed by the success of the 2010 draft, remains strong. But it has lost two of its best.
And, of course, there will be no more Adrian Beltre in Boston come 2011. We've lost both sides of the head-rub pair that kept us laughing during the worst days of 2010, to say nothing of one-knee homers.
Like last year's day, the baseball world changed elsewhere, too. There was nothing so monumental as the Roy Halladay - Cliff Lee trade today, but the Jays did trade away a strong young starter in Shaun Marcum. And the Cardinals' offer of 8/127 to Matt Holliday, also coming on 12/14/09? Well it doesn't look nearly so bad after the Nationals' insane deal with Werth.
Regardless of what other teams are up to, though, for the Red Sox, the offseason has been defined. Even if the Sox make a move for Carl Crawford, I can't imagine it surpassing today in terms of drama and excitement. Regardless of what WAR tells you, especially for Boston, Carl Crawford just isn't Adrian Gonzalez. In 10 months, if the Sox are in the World Series, chances are it's going to be today we're all looking back on.
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Unless his arm falls off in February.
If I was your math homework I'd be really hard and you'd be doing me on your desk.
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Just thinking about it
The Sox have gotten one of the elite players in the game and the organization is better now than it was two days ago. That said, I genuinely miss Kelly and Rizzo. Those two made me so excited everytime I saw them pop up in the minor league updates. I hope they both have great careers.
by MikeAtBU on Dec 6, 2010 12:03 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
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by Marisa Ingemi on Dec 6, 2010 12:06 AM EST up reply actions
It would have been nice
to have Lester Bucholz and Kelly 1/2/3 in our rotation a couple years from now. But this is a deal that could potentially get us over the hump so i’m really happy we made it
probably the one thing that will make this deal look better
is if Ranaudo pans out to be what we think he can.
The front office and all the scouts.
Ranaudo wasn’t one of our surprise picks. Guy was a huge top talent.
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Lets not ignore the emergence of Drake Britton, either.
That’s still a strong 1-2 punch in terms of pitching prospects.
It's been just an amazing day!
To me it was just like playing no limit hold em poker. The swing’s were so up and down today. I felt like I was bluffed this morning and this evening I felt like I just won the world series of poker. Next please, the bullpen. Also thank’s to Ben for a great job today! Hopefully next time you go eat supper they will have more breaking news with the signing of a stud reliever.
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Same time next year guys,
Iglesias and Middlebrooks for Headley.
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Chase Headley manning 3B...buh-buh-buh-boring
We can do much better.
If not Youkilis, then someone else.
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by Frederick0220 on Dec 6, 2010 2:03 AM EST up reply actions
Who? Who is available?
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A young Kevin Youkilis
Father time is an awesome trading partner.
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If the Sox insist on making Iglesias the SS
Mr. Doubles is available at 3B.
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by lone1c on Dec 6, 2010 11:58 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Good gawd, what an exhausting day on the blogs!
I could barely keep up with reading the flood – there was no chance I could post anything!
Wow. I mean, just, “Wow!”.
Emotionally up & down & all over the place.
I wasn’t really too worried when the 2pm deadline passed. The fact is, neither party really had any technical reasons to do anything just because of that deadline. I knew that even if they had to ‘nix’ the trade at that point due to inability to work out an extension in such a short window, that nothing would prevent Theo and Hoyer from reopening the trade at any point and that they could continue to work on a deal with A-Gon. And there was also always the fact of the CBT tax benefit of NOT announcing an extension until the start of the 2011 season.
Still, it was nerve wracking waiting through all the crap info bits and mis-information being tweeted all over the place.
The Werth signing was wack. That actually made me wonder if they truly might nix the Gonzo deal since if they DID insist on overpaying for an OF player he was an obvious complement to Gonzo based on righty/lefty. If they (insanely) felt that they now HAD to grab Crawford now, then there would be less reason to get Gonzo and more reasons to pick up Beltre.
Now, I just don’t see them getting Crawford – too many lefty bats in the lineup if they do. I could be wrong, but it just doesn’t seem like a match – especially if Werth just pushed Crawford’s price way up.
I’m pretty much OK with that. I’ve always felt that both Werth and Crawford were good players, but not going to be worth what they would cost this year.
On the other hand, it is true that if they think past 2011, then Crawford’s being a lefty is less of a concern because we’d be losing Drew & Ortiz after that point anyway (and probably Ellsbury as well). So, there ARE long-term reasons they still might pick up Crawford. That might make us painfully vulnerable against guys like Sabathia next year, though.
For the record
Very small sample size, but Gonzalez has hit well against Lee, Felix, Verlander, and many of the “aces” of the AL. His numbers against Petitte and CC are not as good though.
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This is good news I stayed up until 11 pm IZ time (3 pm EST) and finally had to turn out the lights
I am trying to catch up but it looks like the deal will be in the Spring to avoid the Luxury Tax? Is this correct?
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That's what everyone's thinking.
If I was your math homework I'd be really hard and you'd be doing me on your desk.
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No strict confirmation, but every beat writer and national reporter has a source.
So it seems highly likely that they’ve got a deal for somewhere around 7/160.
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Crazy idea but..
Ellsbury, Doubront, Westmoreland, Reddick for Upton. Would the Sox do it/Could it get done
I would love to see Upton but the consensus on this board is the price is just too high in prospects
I think he has 5 years of cost control left but would take Lowrie and Ellsbury as the centerpiece to get it done. The upgrade to Upton from Ells would be worth it but losing Lowrie when he finally seems to have arrived makes it a little prohibitive…but, hey I did not think Theo would throw prospects at A-Gon but wait until FA…SO WHO KNOWS AT THIS POINT ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE
"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry, you know anything that travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?" - Crash Davis
I would hate to lose Lowrie but
isn’t this the best time to trade him if we ever do? His stock is at an all-time high, and he’s shown a lot of potential but I still don’t know if he’ll be able to put together a whole healthy productive season.
Yes, his value is high because he demonstrated his potential I would hope he is in Boston to stay
I am firmly in the camp of keeping him. The Sox need a SS (possibly even 3B after next season).
We saw his upside prior to his injuries and I wanted to trade him at that time for the very same reason you mentioned – can he stay healthy?
I think he can it was a series of Unfortunate Events (for you Lemony Snickett fans) that hit him hard.
I would much rather hold him now and give him an entire season to show his value – he could be a doubles monster – he is a switch hitter and I think a critical piece in the lineup with all the lefties we have….
"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry, you know anything that travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?" - Crash Davis
Health is not an issue.
The wrist/hand thing is the only injury he’s ever had and it was poorly handled which allowed it to become a problem. I think he showed this season that the wrist is completely healed. He wasn’t around early because of mono, that has nothing to do with his ability to stay injury free, it has everything to do with his ability to try and stay away from pretty girls.
I jest. Lowrie doesn’t have a health issue we should worry about. His potential is very high. If he comes down a little and posts a .800 OPS, well he would have been only 1 of 3 SS in the whole league to do that this year. He had top 5 short stop written all over him.
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Yes, he is a valuable piece to this team and top 5 is very possible in 2011
If he comes down a little and posts a .800 OPS, well he would have been only 1 of 3 SS in the whole league to do that this year. He had top 5 short stop written all over him.
"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry, you know anything that travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?" - Crash Davis
Not really
Let’s put it this way: Lowrie will not get nearly the credit a .850+ OPS shortstop would usually get.
Now, while the Sox know his offensive burst from last year isn’t at all a given to continue, for a team like Boston, the chances to have a dominant player, even if they’re only 25% or something, far outweigh the value they’d get in any trade for him, since it’d need to be Lowrie + multiple prospects.
It’s kind of like Westy’s situation, albeit without the scary brain surgery. Lowrie’s 2010 performance, without the red flags that usually tell you “luck”, is just too much to sell low on based on injury. The Red Sox can’t afford to be trading away guys who could be 5+ WAR players next year at one of the most difficult positions to fill.
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On all things on Lowrie we defer to Ben
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Yeah...
Really, its two things:
1) You cant get anywhere near the return you need to trade him b/c of his question marks
2) He probably has more value and is a better fit for us than anyone else.
One of the beauties about Lowrie
is that he can adequately play ALL the infield positions and has the offense to be a plus player at 3 of them. Obviously he has the highest value at 2B or SS, but even at 3B, while maybe not a superstar, he should be well above average and no one you’d be losing games because of!
This versatility means that he gives the Sox tremendous flexibility in their future planning.
After all our years of struggling to find a permanent SS
I would want to hold on to Lowrie.
His value to us at this position far outweighs what we might get if we deal him, as far as I’m concerned.
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His value to the team is more than just at SS
It’s being a switch-hitter at the plate who can be put into almost any spot in the lineup, and the ability to move quickly between all of the outfield positions. He probably provides TIto with more flexibility than any other person on the roster.
Given all the mishaps with injury, having someone who can cover as many roles as possible—like Bill Hall, except, you know, actually being competent—is a bigger plus to the Sox than to any prospective trade partner.
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Er, infield positions.
Putting him in the outfield would be reminiscent of putting Youk out there. Not pretty.
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I don't think that's enough plus Westy is too much of a question mark.
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by Frederick0220 on Dec 6, 2010 2:04 AM EST up reply actions
Pimentel or Britton? Maybe Navarro?
I don’t know at this point who’s more valuable to the Sox at SS, Navarro or Iglesias.
Yeah, its not enough.
& there’s no point including Westmoreland in trade scenarios. He will not be traded. No one even knows if he can play baseball again. He skipped college to come here and made it known he would only sign with Boston – his hometown team. Considering his condition I’d say the chances of us trading him are about the same as us trading for Upton AND signing Crawford in the next week. Will not happen.
OK so westmorelands out
Ellsbury, Doubront, Reddick, Pimentel or Britton and Navarro? With that the dbacks shore up their IF, OF, rotation and bullpen, although obviously not all immediately.
They've made it pretty clear they want more than one good young, MLB player.
So Ellsbury isn’t going to cut it by himself.
As much as I’d like him here, it appears less and less likely Upton gets traded with each passing day…
So presumably...
… the PTBNL – whomever he was going to be before – is now Slappy Ruiz, the 8th outfielder for the DSL Sox or an equivalent, right?
Wait 'til next/this year?
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by nuthinboutnuthin on Dec 6, 2010 2:17 AM EST reply actions
His name
Is Roberto Playertobenamedlater.
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Jason Rice is what Chris Hatfield is saying.
I’m inclined to believe him, but that’s kind of annoying since we could use a decent homegrown pen prospect to give Bard some help soon.
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So (seems safe, for now)...
LF – Ellsbury (L)
2B – Pedroia®
1B – Gonzalez (L)
3B – Youkilis®
DH – Ortiz (L)
RF – Drew (L)*
SS – Lowrie (S)
CF – Cameron®
C – Saltalamacchia®*
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– versus LHP, Kalish®
** – versus LHP, Varitek (S)
Plus Scutaro, McDonald (?), and ???
Wait 'til next/this year?
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by nuthinboutnuthin on Dec 6, 2010 3:07 AM EST reply actions
Pretty sure they've said Ells is the CF going forward.
Perhaps that changes with a healthy Cameron… but they did more or less say that the experiment in LF was over.
They did?
Hmmm….that’s too bad.
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They want to protect Cameron
So Cameron will be in LF, and Ellsbury would be in CF. That doesn’t mean there wouldn’t be a change in 2012, pending additional roster changes.
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I recall this too
but how much of that was just reacting to the freak injuries at the time?
If healthy, Cameron will still be a much better defensive CF than Ells.
Oh well, maybe with Cam in LF and Drew in RF, they can ‘squeeze’ the area that Ells is responsible for …
Jays trading Marcum shocks me.
It’s not like their rotation over-floweth. Marcum is a solid arm.
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Yeah, I was surprise too
Who knows maybe the Blue Jays are swinging a trade for Grienke while Lee signs with the Rangers??? Now, wouldn’t that be an interesting development?
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So after all the drama is over what to do now?
There will prolly be a front page article about that over the course of the day (atleast i assume it will be) but for discussion sake lets just start:
A couple of points:
1. No to Crawford:
I’m not sold on Crawford. The reasons have been repeated over and over the last weeks. Fenways small LF, cant hit lefties etc. He will prolly end up with 8/160 now with that Werth contract and I dont think he is worth it. Even though there is nobody good besides him.
2. tell me who is left besides Crawford in the OF? Maybe a smaller trade? Ideas anybody?
3. As a result of that. we might be better off spending the money we have left for bullpen and catcher and keep some financial flexibility for the deadline?
4. So i’d try to get Downs for 2 years or maybe 3/18? Talk to Jenks.
5. Get Martin or Napoli. Sal will be a disaster
by German Red Sox Fan on Dec 6, 2010 8:02 AM EST reply actions
Agreed on Crawford.
I mean, it depends on who’s left to bid, but you have to think that if Werth went for 7 then Crawford goes for 8. Eight years of whiffing at lefties is not appealing.
And, ugh…please please PLEASE tell me we are not starting Salty this season.
And now that we’ve done our big splash, can we please fix the bullpen. OKTHX.
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yep seems like a fit
had a pretty respectable season last year. Even better career stats against lefties than Werth. Obviously much older but for one year could make sense.
by German Red Sox Fan on Dec 6, 2010 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
If not Crawford (and I'm also not sold he's enough of an impact talent to be worth THAT much)
then I’m not sure we can really improve on Kalish/Cam.
It's a good day for the MFY
They are going to get Lee. The Werth deal is huge. No Werth means that in the field at this moment the Yankees look better than we are. Moreover, can anyone really afford what Crawford is going to want other than the Yankees?
If they Yankees get Lee and Petite comes back their rotation is:
Lee
CC
Petite
Hughes
Burnett
Against ours:
Lester
Bucholtz
Beckett
Lackey
Dice-K
Assuming we address the pen, the Yankees look better to me in the field and in their starting rotation unless Beckett is able to comeback in a way I don’t expect.
If the Yanks sign Crawford
It will be a huge payday for a marginal upgrade. Cashman likes the “throw money at ’em” strategy, but I don’t think he’s fool enough to shell out when he’s got Gardner in left.
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Agreed
It’d be a case of treading water by addition, at best. Crawford’s better than Gardner, but not by nearly enough to offset the difference between their salaries.
That being said, not getting Werth is a blow. Not sure what the best approach for us in the OF, honestly, but I do know that Crawford isn’t it.
I guess the goal might be to find the next Beltre-type player.
Sign him to a one- or two-year deal, and then hope that a better one comes along in a few years after a course correction in contract offers.
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Do I need to get the croquet mallet again?
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I don't think
the upgrade is as marginal as you think. I wrote a comment below that was intended as a response.
this is something I see from all kinds of people
so I’m not just picking on you.
But it’s Buchholz. It’s a weird name, but this is a Red Sox blog, so let’s get it right.
perfectly german name whats weird about it? ;)
Holz means wood and Buch is prolly short for Buche which is a beech tree. Pretty sure Buchholz has german ancestors.
by German Red Sox Fan on Dec 6, 2010 9:28 AM EST up reply actions
"Beechwood"
Canada’s National Military Cemetery is at Beechwood Cemetery in Ottawa.
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They should switch to oak.
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If you know German, it's fine
But Americans hear “holz,” think “waltz,” and stick in an extra “t.” And naturally the first “h” is a stickler.
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Two H's, one C
Two H’s, one C
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You are right to pick
on me. I should have gotten that right.
don't feel bad (not that you do)
I intellectually know that it is “Buchholz” but I also know I’ve lazily misspelled it dozens of times. Sigh …
’Not the kind of thing the spell-checker catches!
are they really lookin better in the field?
1B: Gonzo > Tex (even at best)
2B: Pedroia = Cano (maybe Cano will be slightly better)
SS: Lowrie > Jeter (jup)
3B: Youk = Arod
LF: Gardner > Cameron
CF: Granderson = Ellsbury (maybe Granderson is better)
LF: Drew= Swisher
DH: Ortiz >> Posada
It’s pretty close overall, the Yankees have bigger age issues then we do though, so they are more likely to decline.
I agree that the Yankee rotation is better with Cliff Lee.
by German Red Sox Fan on Dec 6, 2010 9:53 AM EST up reply actions
I didn't know
Scutoro had been traded. Jeter is better than he is.
Tex is even with Gonzo. Predroia is not the offensive force Cano is. Granderson is better than Ellsbury. Swisher is better than Drew.
What about Catcher?
Catcher is a weakness for both clubs
We don’t know how Salty will perform, he couldn’t even throw back to the mound. Posada is becoming a relic, can’t throw out anyone, and I think they’ll probably use Cervelli instead? He’s limited offensively. And then there’s Varitek, who can really only be used 1-2 days a week
Fortunately, that should all we HAVE to use 'Tek for (barring injuries, of course).
I would guess he’ll get most of Beckett’s starts plus all tough lefty opposing pitchers.
Ideally, it would be a straight Lefty-Righty platoon, but Beckett will want his binky …
Scutaro hasn't been traded
but the general concensus here at least is we’d rather see Lowrie get the ss job and have Scutaro as the utility IF
still pedroia was on pace for roughly the same WAR as Cano
and was superior to Cano in the 2 years prior. Tex is not even with Gonzo. Tex had a down year last year. Granderson i might give you that. swisher and drew are even for me.
and i forgot Catcher:
Montero/Cervelli=Sal/Tek – weak spot in both lineups, if Montero lives up to his potential Yankees will have the edge
by German Red Sox Fan on Dec 6, 2010 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
Just for shits 'n' giggles
C.C. = Lester
Lee > Buccholz
Pettitte = Lackey
Hughes = Beckett
Mitre/Nova/Fan from Stands < Dice-K
Rivera >> Paps
Whomever* <<< Bard
Slightly better for the Yanks – not a landslide victory. The Lackey/Beckett assessment is filled with wishful thinking, given the down years both Sox pitchers had, but not wildly improbable given Pettitte’s age (one of these years, we’ll have to be right about him not having anything left in the tank, dammit!) and my subjective suspicion that Hughes is just gonna be one of those guys the Sox have a handle on for the length of his almost-certain-to-be long and distinguished career.
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* – astonishing research, I know…
Wait 'til next/this year?
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by nuthinboutnuthin on Dec 6, 2010 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
but peripherally, that looks really unrepeatable.
Buchholz has a long way to go before he gets called a better pitcher than Lee.
interesting question - have they improved themselves?
our offence and it’s run scoring ability was very good and 20.0 WAR (Wins Above aveRage (.500)).
in essence we go into 2011 with gonzo instead of beltre & martinez. in the infield. same OF less the stud hernia.
Gonzo
may not be a huge upgrade over the year Beltre had. But it is certainly worth doing, since Beltre’s year may have been a fluke. Gonzo’s upside in Fenway is huge.
A full year from Ellsbury and Cameron will make this this team at least as good offensively as they were in 2010.
But I worry about the starting pitching, and everyone knows we need bullpen help.
Crawford
hit .324 and slugged .500 against the Red Sox. His power is to the power alley in right: he would be awesome in Yankee Stadium (though he has only 2 HR against the Yankees). In 17 games against the Sox in 2010, he stole 8 bases.
In 2009 he hit .327 against the RS, slugged .487 and stole 13 bases in 18 games. In fact, he set the American League record for stolen bases in a game against the Sox at a game at which I was at (but then I go to most of the Rays game).
In neither ’09 or ’10 did the Sox ever throw him out. He was 22 for 22.
I think it is fair to say he has killed the Sox over the last 2 years.
I am not sure he makes sense for the Red Sox, but my guess he hits 20+ HR’s for the Yankees. He is absolutely an improvement for them.
It's not that Crawford isn't better
But rather that Gardner is making league minimum. Crawford will cost something like $18 million more per year. Even for the Yankees, that’s an exorbitant opportunity cost.
This
Crawford had a career year last year with a 6.9 WAR, prior he was around the 4-5 range on average. Let’s give him 5.5 in 2011 for argument sake.
Gardner is peaking at his 27 year and just posted a 5.4 WAR
Trade Scutaro?
The consensus on here is that Lowrie is better, which I agree with. Would anyone take Scutaro in exchange for a reliever or two?
I'd rather hold on to Scutaro as the utility infielder, actually
Since he can handle the middle infield, and Lowrie can back up the corners if necessary.
And his contract isn’t so unreasonable, either.
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if it's a good reliever, absolutely
but the Giants don’t seem interested, and I don’t see another fit. Happy to have him as IF
Watching the press conference...
Gonzo seems like a stand-up guy
Lots of Ted Williams talk
I know it’s probably just press conference BS, but I find myself able to believe he really was a Padres/ Red Sox fan growing up.
LOL pin stripe ally
RED SOX gonzo deal = dirty lol
by RED SOX are #1 in my heart on Dec 6, 2010 11:32 AM EST reply actions
Why?
Because we didn’t buy him in mid-season for excess salary, a secret manilla envelope full of Stein-bucks to a greedy owner and a crappy middle relief prospect?
Wait 'til next/this year?
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by nuthinboutnuthin on Dec 6, 2010 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
Or was it...
Because we didn’t snare him because he keeps his balls in his wife’s purse?
Wait 'til next/this year?
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by nuthinboutnuthin on Dec 6, 2010 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
He's here
Jed Hoyer on Adrian’s impact in Boston: ’He’s going to be unbelievable in Fenway. … He’s going to be a monster.’
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