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Red Sox' Lineup Decisions Could Have A Huge Impact

The 2011 Red Sox are going to be an immensely talented team. When the only real complaints to be found are a weakness at catcher and the lack of closers in every spot in the pen and an ace in the fifth rotation spot, things are pretty good. Even the bench is incredible, with the Sox four-deep in the outfield, and five-deep from first to third.

Of course, you can only play three outfielders and four infielders (catcher excluded), and so we run into the question: how can this team be utilized best? And how much does it really matter?

For the most part, this is just rehashing the same old arguments: Lowrie over Scutaro, and platoons all over the place. But let's try and put some real figures on it this time. How much of a difference could making the right moves matter over the course of a season?

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Lowrie vs. Scutaro

Let's start with the easy one here. The question of whether to play Jed Lowrie or Marco Scutaro at short should be an easy one, though it seems like the right answer is currently eluding the Red Sox. Last year, Lowrie showed a ridiculous amount of potential in his reasonably short (197 plate appearances) hitting for power (.239 isolated power), and showing some of the best discipline in the league (21.7% outside swing rate, 12.7% walk rate). In fact, the small difference separating his strikeout and walk rates was one of the best in the league.

Obviously, there are those who will say he's bound to regress, and they're probably right. But it's hard to imagine that he's going to drop to Scutaro's levels even in his best years. Consider that, before breaking his wrist, Lowrie had put up a .844 OPS in August as a rookie and managed a .934 OPS when using his unbroken right wrist. So let's go ahead and call him a .825 OPS or about a .360 wOBA hitter. Counting the "starting shortstop" position in for a conservative 600 plate appearances barring injury, that puts Jed on pace for 42.5 runs above a replacement player, ignoring defense.

A player at Scutaro's level, which we'll put slightly higher than his .319 from last year (credit for playing all year with an injury) should put the team down a good 16-or-so runs-the equivalent of more than one win. Of course, that's overstating the effect, since Jed Lowrie will definitely get playing time. Last year is a bit of an outlier when it comes to injury games, a super-sub who covers all the positions from first to third can still reasonably depend on 450+ plate appearances thanks to Terry Francona's conservative playing schedules and the distinct lack of invulnerable baseball players. That cuts down the difference to a mere 4 runs, assuming fairly similar defense.

Not exactly a big deal.

The Platoons

There are two main candidates for a platoon situation: David Ortiz, and J.D. Drew. While Carl Crawford struggles to hit lefties, his defense is a huge part of his contribution, and it's hard to see him sitting anyways.

While both players could make this a lot easier by suddenly hitting lefties again, let's assume for the sake of argument that they repeat their 2010 performance. For J.D. Drew, this means a .280 wOBA, and for David Ortiz, .268. Those are some awful numbers. Their potential replacements are Mike Cameron, with a .410 wOBA (based on his last full seasons) and Marco Scutaro (since we've already accounted for Lowrie) at .331, likely mixing up the infield so that Kevin Youkilis plays DH. Ideally, Youk would end up at first with Gonzalez at DH, but teams are always reluctant to risk the comfort and injury issues that tend to crop up with switching positions.

Last year, playing full seasons with some targeted rest against lefties, Ortiz and Drew still had to face lefties 200 and 172 times respectively. Doing the math, we come up with a rather more noticeable difference than the Lowrie/Scutaro situation: Not platooning Ortiz should cost the Sox around 11.6 runs. For Drew, the difference is still greater at a massive 20.1 run difference! It's not exactly surprising, though--this is the difference between batting Ryan Theriot for a quarter of a year and batting Albert Pujols! Even if we assume that a full third of these plate appearances are against targeted LOOGY relievers, it's just not a difference the Sox can put up with.

Of course, both Drew and Ortiz should be given the opportunity to prove they can still hit lefties. Maybe a few weeks at most. If things aren't looking any better after that, though, then at the very least Mike Cameron has to be facing every single lefty the Red Sox see this year. Tito can play Lowrie off the bench if he wants, so long as he gives the Red Sox the very necessary platoon!

P.S.

For those interested, a guy like, say, Darnell McDonald playing over Carl Crawford would likely have a Lowrie - Scutaro size impact between offense and defense combined. Probably not worth testing Crawford's ego. A switch between Youkilis and Gonzalez defensively during those days Ortiz is platooned would also result in a very small change.

In fact, McDonald would make a better option to platoon with Ortiz than Marco Scutaro. Not if Scutaro starts and Lowrie is the one getting the substitution, however.

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We are totally spoiled. I can’t wait.

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by tommy.otm on Dec 18, 2010 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I love the type of ballplayer scutaro is

but i am a huge jed lowrie fan and have predicted many times he will be the opening day ss 2011. I think Theo trades scutaro he has some value this year and with lowrie and iglesis in the fold this would be scutaros last year in beantown anyway. scutaro played hurt most of last year and still had a good year the guy is a gamer he knew the team was hurting so he just kept going out there even though he couldnt even feel his hands.

by brady12mvp3 on Dec 18, 2010 8:09 AM EST reply actions  

Francona will hide the platoon

by “rotating” players “to give them some time off” without an automatic switch every time there is a right handed pitcher or left handed pitcher

so there will be some of what you suggest

Francona worries more about morale than the stats

by Frank Malzone on Dec 18, 2010 9:05 AM EST reply actions  

See, that's what Tito did last year.

And it will still cost us 30 runs.

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by Ben Buchanan on Dec 18, 2010 10:36 AM EST up reply actions  

VS. LHP

Scutaro
Crawford
Pedroia
AGonz
Youk
Ortiz
Cameron
Tek
Ellsbury

VS RHP

Ells
Crawford
Pedroia
AGonz
Youk
Ortiz
Drew
Salty
Scutaro/Lowrie

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!!!!! LIVERPOOL !!!!!

by gizmosandy on Dec 18, 2010 9:19 AM EST reply actions  

Do you see this, Ben?

You need to give the people what they want.

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by BoldandBrash on Dec 18, 2010 9:49 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Nothing stopping Sandy from doing a trial run now.

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by lone1c on Dec 18, 2010 10:35 AM EST up reply actions  

If Lowrie is not in the lineup against lefties

Tito will have completely lost his marbles.

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by lone1c on Dec 18, 2010 10:35 AM EST up reply actions  

+1

Galactus does as he pleases. Because Galactus is drunk.

@#$%ing Twit: @blogtard

by Bloggy on Dec 18, 2010 10:59 AM EST up reply actions  

True

On platoons:
Tek/Salty is almost perfect. Im just gonna use OPS cause I’m lazy. Varitek hits [.829, .758] and Saltalamacchia hits [.592, .765], on their careers (vs. LHP, vs. RHP). Also, Tek was even more polarized last year. I know it matters which Red Sox pitcher is going, but in a perfect world Varitek plays against lefties, and Salty against righties.

Drew/Cameron looks good too. Drew [.780, .921] plays RF against the righties, and Cam [.866, .761] gets the nod against all lefties. Then again, Crawford has pretty polarizing lefty/righty splits [.697, .817], so Cameron could also take some starts in LF when Crawford sits against some lefties.

For the sake of this argument, I’ll say Scutaro starts the season at SS. On certain days, I propose Ortiz sits, Youk DH, and Lowrie at third, leaving Scoot where he is. So really the substitution at the plate is Lowrie [.944, .667] vs. Ortiz [.795, .972].

Lineup vs. RHP (including OPS vs righties):
1.) CF Ellsbury (.747)
2.) 2B Pedroia (.839)
3.) 1B Gonzo (.919)
4.) DH Ortiz (.972)
5.) 3B Youk (.878)
6.) LF Crawford (.817)
7.) RF Drew (.921)
8.) C Salty (.765)
9.) SS Scutaro (.715)

Lineup vs. LHP (including OPS vs lefties):
1.) 3B Lowrie (.944)
2.) 2B Pedroia (.806)
3.) DH Youk (.926)
4.) 1B Gonzo (.783)
5.) RF Cameron (.866)
6.) LF Crawford (.697)
7.) C Tek (.829)
8.) SS Scutaro (.738)
9.) CF Ells (.752)

Thoughts?
Side note, Pedroia has reverse L/R splits on his career, as does Ellsbury (barely).

by Schulz on Dec 18, 2010 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Salty/Tek

Salty is all projection at this point, I don’t think his career splits are at all indicative of what the Sox expect of him. I can’t imagine a straight platoon, I think they’ll give him the opportunity to start 130 games (unless he is absolutely terrible). Although the less time Tek sees RHPs, the better.

It’s sort of interesting to compare Salty’s stats (both majors and minors) with Tek’s through age 25 (both majors and minors). Advantage: Salty.

I hope this kid doesn’t turn out to be Hermida 2.0.

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by tommy.otm on Dec 18, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Why do we want Ellsbury leading off against RHP?

I’d much rather give Pedroia or Crawford the leadoff spot since they have substantially better numbers. Ellsbury should be at the very bottom of the lineup.

by Sean O on Dec 19, 2010 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

I've heard

that both Pedroia and Crawford dislike hitting leadoff. Otherwise, I would have those guys as 1 and 2.

by Schulz on Dec 19, 2010 7:33 PM EST up reply actions  

No way Ortiz

is hitting sixth against righties.

by flasoxfan on Dec 18, 2010 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

probably he is

and it’s not because he’s a bad hitter in any way. It’s because against righties, this lineup is about the most absurdly deep thing I have ever seen.

by wolf9309 on Dec 18, 2010 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

this is a very good thing

for years the mfy had their lineups stacked with lefties vs RHP. and a 200 foot right field.

now they have a wind tunnel

i wonder if filling the batting order with lefties and moving right field in, is a coincidence?

by Mick Lowe on Dec 18, 2010 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Scutaro leading-off against lefties over Lowrie...

Pleeeeeeease no.

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by Frederick0220 on Dec 18, 2010 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Those Ortiz and Drew numbers are kind of scary

I really hope Drew and Cameron become a regular platoon very early in the season. Its like a perfect situation. Both are older, both struggle against pitchers that throw from the same side as they bat, but both are very good defenders.

If one or both of them suck hopefully Kalish is ready down on the farm.

Now, it looks like we are going with Ortiz all the way. Lets hope he decides that since he has no option to fall back on he goes on a tear in a contract year.

by totheights on Dec 18, 2010 10:40 AM EST reply actions  

The ideal really is that Drew comes out of it.

I don’t see Ortiz making the switch, as it were, since it’s been a few years since he’s hit lefties well at all.

If he does, then it’s a very easy Drew-to-DH, Cameron-to-RF switch that gets Drew some necessary rest, and lets Cameron absolutely destroy some lefties.

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by Ben Buchanan on Dec 18, 2010 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Tek & Beckett

I hope this year we wean Beckett off Tek. I’m not at all convinced they have some magical connection. If anything, I think Varitek’s approach to Beckett and Papelbon became fairly mechanical and predictable over the past few years. He’s still a good game-caller no doubt, but we need Salty to find a give & take with Beckett.

I think it’s a must for Salty to catch Beckett at least half his starts. If they commit to the lefty/righty platoon, this should happen naturally.

by alfredo on Dec 18, 2010 1:10 PM EST reply actions  

Seems that VMart caught Beckett plenty last season

The personal catcher thing is a thing of the past…I think it was even announced as such last year.

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by Bloggy on Dec 18, 2010 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I Don't Know

He caught 5 of Beckett’s 7 starts before going on the DL. From then on it was simply based on who was healthy.

by alfredo on Dec 18, 2010 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Dunno what to tell ya

I just seem to recall it being referenced in the media that it was over…shrugs. In any event, I agree it shouldn’t happen…although I could see Beckett taking Salty’s head off for some reason.

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by Bloggy on Dec 18, 2010 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

IIRC

Back in Meathead’s terrible ‘06, didn’t ‘belli catch most of his good starts? I don’t know why the two would have a real connection.

by Sean O on Dec 19, 2010 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

We are very lucky to have Tito

handling all of this stuff. I don’t think there is anyone better in the league at handling the egos and still putting the best team on the field. I think Drew will get platooned with Cameron almost entirely, though Ells will see some rest against lefties too. Ortiz is different, but only marginally. He will get a chance against lefties regularly, I would guess, but when he does sit, it will be against the toughest ones.

If Scutaro doesn’t get traded (and I think he will), I think he will be the nominal “starting shortstop” in part because they will have plenty of other places to play Lowrie and in part because they won’t want to see his trade value drop too much through under use. I prefer Lowrie playing everyday, but I think they will sneak him into the lineup rather than just run him out there everyday.

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by Mattsullivan on Dec 18, 2010 1:18 PM EST reply actions  

keeping scooter and lowrie has unique upside

sox only need to keep 5 infielders, 1st to 3rd (excluding catcher).

this allows them to stack another position – 5th OF, 13 pitchers, 3 catchers, 2 DH’s. the stack could be used by taking minors up and down as other areas get tired or need rest, whatever.

unless the SS market is a sellers market, i would keep both

by Mick Lowe on Dec 18, 2010 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

the thing is, any method of sneaking him into the lineup and keeping Scutaro in

is essentially putting Scutaro in at the expense of having Gonzalez, Pedroia, or Youk on the field. Not a good thing. Scutaro has the same flexibility and can get plenty of playing time.

by wolf9309 on Dec 18, 2010 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I think the lineup will cause a lot of complaining...

…and we’ll still have to hear about how Ellsbury shouldn’t be leading off since he “only” has a .355 OBP even though we win 100+ games.

The only thing that really concerns me is Lowrie’s playing time vs. Scutaro. I find that a very persuasive argument. I don’t think it will burn us to start Scoot and play Lowrie liberally as a super sub or anything… but I think that is the one area where we could be giving up more than nominal value/production. I am very glad we have both on board, though.

by alskor on Dec 18, 2010 2:14 PM EST reply actions  

Trade Scutaro for bullpen help

Give Lowrie the much deserved starting gig.

by Dewey Finn on Dec 18, 2010 9:30 PM EST reply actions  

not necessary though

why trade Scutaro at this point? There’s money to spend and all they need is a cheap lefty reliever. It’s a pretty solid team and Scoot is better than anyone else we’d have as a backup. Agree about giving Lowrie the starting gig though.

by wolf9309 on Dec 18, 2010 10:25 PM EST up reply actions  

TEAM

Francona can have an all star at every position and still screw it up. He does not know how to manage, nor does he know how to use his pitching staff. He always leaves the starters in too long and they end of losing……Injuries will again plague this team…..4th place in the Division is where I see them at just ahead of Tampa Bay…..

by Stephen B on Dec 19, 2010 4:53 PM EST reply actions  

Hi Cashman!

Shouldn’t you be looking for a third starter?

by Sean O on Dec 19, 2010 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Lineups with rationale

It is either a blessing or a curse that the Red Sox offense breaks down into a natural platoon once you get past the “big five” hitters—Ellsbury, Pedroia, Gonzalez, Youkilis, Crawford (conceding that Crawford is not going to sit because he has a lifetime .272 average against lefties—if he gets on base he’ll turn the opportunity into an extra base hit). Most surprisingly our switch-hitting shortstop and catchers have huge differentials from their two sides of the plate and on paper should not get to the plate on their weak “split.”.

I love Schulz’ idea of batting Crawford later in the order, so for the sake of challenging the rapidly-becoming-conventional wisdom he should hit 2nd or 3rd, I’ll do it. Averages are lifetime unless there is a suspicion that an older player is in decline in which case I took the 2010 season.

Against right-handers

Ellsbury .285
Pedroia .309
Gonzalez .295
Youkilis .292
Crawford .308
Scutaro .273
Ortiz .294
Drew .277
Saltimachia .273

• Team average is .290
• Alternating left-right-left through the first seven hitters protects against LOOGY coming in to neutralize both Gonzalez and Crawford. Bottom of the order can be pinch-hit for by their “platoon-partner” if necessary.
• Ellsbury does best leading off and Crawford doesn’t want to do it.
• Pedrioia has his best average in the 2-hole
• Crawford hitting 5th serves as a second lead-off man which
-makes the relatively weaker hitters at the bottom of the order more dangerous
-opens up the possibility of a hit-and-run or a sacrifice bunt with Scutaro
-complicates the shift against Ortiz.

If the first hitters start a big inning and are still on base, Crawford can double them home; if Youkilis has already cleared the bases, Crawford can start it off again; if they go one-two-three or leave one stranded, the second inning has him leading off or hitting second and introducing the speed dimension into the second half of the order. No rest for the catcher or the pitcher.

Against left-handers

Ellsbury .285
Pedroia .294
Gonzalez .262 (.337 in 2010)
Youkilis .299
Crawford .272
Lowrie (SS) .324
MacDonald (DH) .296
Cameron (RF) .272
Varitek .231

• Team average is .282

by Redsoxmike on Dec 19, 2010 5:06 PM EST reply actions  

Rookie mistake

I’m new on the metrics stuff, but in quickly spot-checking the other stats, it wouldn’t much change my lineup to use OPS. I do now recognize that Lowrie’s career numbers are not as fair a representation as his 2010 numbers because of his wrist injury.

What do you think of this rationale?

by Redsoxmike on Dec 20, 2010 12:23 AM EST up reply actions  

I like the idea of having two mini-lineups

But in a world where the bloggers are the managers, Lowrie is the starter. I also may be in the minority, but I want Cameron starting over Ellsbury. Having watched Cameron play for the Brewers and the Padres I’ve seen him healthy, and he’s a phenomenal defender with some good pop in his bat.

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by TheLoneDavid on Dec 20, 2010 9:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Something to keep in mind about Lowrie

I believe that he may be genuinely better as a righty than as a lefty BUT we have to remember that most of his career stats as a lefty have come with a broken left wrist. When it was finally healthy this year, the numbers look to me like he was incredibly unlucky, and still put up good numbers against righties. I feel confident that he’s better on both sides of the plate than Scutaro is.

by wolf9309 on Dec 20, 2010 9:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Well, there's no way we would ever bat Scutaro

ahead of Ortiz like that. Scutaro is a terrible hitter, and even with Ortiz’s struggles you have to put him ahead.

I’m partial to Ellsbury at the bottom of the order, as I think Crawford will be our leadoff guy (with all the talk about how he doesn’t want to bat leadoff, he said in a number of interviews that he doesn’t care). My personal choice is to put Pedroia at leadoff, Crawford second.

by Sean O on Dec 20, 2010 8:37 AM EST reply actions  

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