Athletics Offer Adrian Beltre 5-Year Deal
According to Enrique Rojas of ESPNDeportes.com, the Oakland Athletics have opened the bidding for free agent Adrian Beltre as they have reportedly offered him a 5-year deal worth about 64 million dollars.
Beltre, who turns 32 next April, declined the 10 million dollar player option earlier this month as a part of his one-year deal he signed with Boston last offseason. Red Sox GM Theo Epstein originally built the option into Beltre's contract in hopes that he might consider staying in Boston for at least another year. However, Beltre is represented by Scott Boras, baseball's super agent, and didn't shock anyone when he decided to decline the option, in hopes of receiving a long term deal.
Last offseason, the final bidding for Beltre came down to the Athletics, who were reportedly willing to offer a three-year deal to Beltre (after missing most of the 2009 season with injury) or Boston who offered him a one-year contract, but with a higher base salary. Beltre decided to accept the Red Sox' offer in order to show teams that he is capable of returning to his old form.
Beltre had a great 2010 season hitting .321, hammering in 28 homers, and driving in 102 RBIs. This marks Beltre's second best season statistically, trailing only his monstrous 2004 season where he posted 48 home runs and a .334 average. With this Beltre coming off a good year, Boras will be looking to make as much as possible off this contract.
Now that Beltre auditioned with the Red Sox so to speak, and has proven that he is still among the elite third baseman, he may be more willing to accept this kind of offer from the A's, who have been looking for a third baseman as they are fielding offers for current third baseman Kevin Kouzmanoff.
The Red Sox are reportedly willing to go as high as four years 52 million for their third baseman. If the Red Sox remain reluctant to offer Beltre a 5-year deal, they could very well lose out on him to another team. In this case, they will more than likely move Kevin Youkilis to third base and look to acquire a first baseman such as Padres slugger Adrian Gonzalez or Prince Fielder of the Brewers. The team could also replace Beltre with infielder Jed Lowrie.
If Beltre leaves, the Red Sox will more than likely make catcher Victor Martinez their top priority on the free agent market.
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Really confused by this offer.
The A’s get guys who thrive in hitters parks. Matt Holliday ….
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MFY fan.
It's definitely odd. When're they supposed to have a new park again?
I guess Beane’s after the defense as much as anything.
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by Ben Buchanan on Nov 17, 2010 7:34 PM EST up reply actions
Nobody would be insane enough
to finance a new park for Oakland. Even if people were dumb enough to finance a new park for the Marlins.
There's talk of either a new park or a move to San Jose.
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by Ben Buchanan on Nov 17, 2010 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
Actually, they canned the Oakland bit.
Now it’s just Cisco field in San Jose, but that seems a lot more concrete.
Wouldn’t show up in time to make much difference for Beltre though, so it’s a non-issue.
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by Ben Buchanan on Nov 17, 2010 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
Cities and Counties are broke
It is incredible how bad financially most States, Counties and municipalities are at this moment.
There has been talk of baseball field down in the East Bay Waterfront, but I don’t see how Oakland can afford anything right now, the Fremont stadium, I believe fell through, and right now, Oakland is like competing with Cleveland for the worst in attendance.
by superferret on Nov 17, 2010 11:09 PM EST up reply actions
See ya later Adrian
It’s been nice having you, but not 5yr/64mil nice.
Don't find this credible.
Beane doesn’t usually go for the stupid move this hard. The word “reportedly” and the fact it’s coming from the Spanish language group undermine the believability for me (does Boras even speak / leak Espanol?). On the other hand, Beltre might be able to get substantially more for a shorter period. I can see him at 4/$60 easily, as he is by far the best FA 3rd baseman and is coming off a monster season.
Adrian Beltre is why we can't have healthy outfielders.
It's still ESPN
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And what I mean by that
Is that it’s a lot more credible than some no-name Spanish language news outlet.
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I should point out
That last year, Scutaro’s signing broke in a Venezuelan newspaper, Lider.
I was pretty proud on jumping on that early. Yay Google Translator!
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by Ben Buchanan on Nov 17, 2010 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
Do You...
Want a Gold Star for that? How ’bout a cookie? Or a medal? ;-)
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All of the above, really.
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by Ben Buchanan on Nov 19, 2010 12:01 AM EST up reply actions
A star-shaped medal, which is really a cookie wrapped in golden foil?
I want one.
Wait 'til next/this year?
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by nuthinboutnuthin on Nov 19, 2010 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
Yes it is.
ESPN Deportes has some good reporters, and some of the Spanish Media has just as good to even better reporters than the English speaking media. Given many of them are bilingual. It is not like the women on TV Azteca who pretty much gave the Jets players heart attacks with her outfit before a pre game that was all over the TV media.
One reason that Mikey Lowell or Ortiz have such a clubhouse presence is that both are bilingual.
by superferret on Nov 17, 2010 11:16 PM EST up reply actions
Don't hate on Azteca - it is value added to Sport entertainment ;)
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I don't hate TV Azteca
or don’t dislike Inez Sainz, the reporter who basically did the whole, “if you got it flaunt it” thing. How she dress for the Jets game is kind of common for women in Latin American Countries, I just see as more as clash of two cultures, because Gringos look at work clothes and then there are party clothes. I just think the Jets players were out of line, but oh my god, she was definitely dressed to kill to put it mildly..
When I was in Buenos Aires, I was worried I was going to run into lamp posts from become memorized from the constant hotties in el centro of the city and not paying attention.. Buenos Aires women are incredible.
Well that sounds like a nice place to visit
And, I can tell you are still mesmerized and have truly memorized your whole Buenos Aires experience
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Rojas is close to many Spanish speaking players
I sometimes watch ESPN Deportes and some of their web broadcasts. Rojas was pretty much Manny’s mouthpiece when he had a grievance with either the Sox or the Dodgers. I don’t think Rojas would not report something unless he has a good source, probably Beltre
by superferret on Nov 17, 2010 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
Interesting
Thought I find it whacky as much as anybody else. If Adrian cares more about the money and being closer to home (though I’m thinking it’s more home than money cause he’s certainly made his $$$), then he’s gone.
If he wants a ring, then he’ll seriously consider Boston as well.
Though 5 years is too much. Sorry Bel-Tray…thanks for the memories but no way you’re getting 5 years from Theo & Co.
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Let him walk.
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Not paying for Beltre at 5 years is a better plan.
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by Ben Buchanan on Nov 17, 2010 8:35 PM EST up reply actions
Anything that involves not giving Beltre 5 years is my better plan.
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Yes-if we could still sign Gonzo next winter
and then rotate Gonzo/Youk at DH and 1B, giving Beltre the 3B job, I’m all for it.
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It's OK
Really, though, if we frontloaded 5/64, I wouldn’t have too much of a problem, maybe…
Still, 4/60 was pushing it to begin with. Being stuck with Beltre’s money in 2015 sounds like asking for Lowell all over again.
Perhaps we can sign him and deal him after a couple of seasons?
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by Ben Buchanan on Nov 17, 2010 11:55 PM EST up reply actions
+1
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on Nov 18, 2010 9:59 AM EST up reply actions
Not a Bad Idea
Though I wonder, who would take Beltre at like age 34 if Theo & Co. want to trade him?
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If he's coming off another .850 OPS season with good defense, plenty of people.
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by Ben Buchanan on Nov 19, 2010 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
I think the risks wayyyy outweight the benefits
when you’re talking about signing a guy to a long-term contract with the intention of trading him in a couple of years. Plus not too many other teams are dumb enough to not realize that he’ll likely be declining past age 34.
Waiting for AGonz
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by Marisa Ingemi on Nov 17, 2010 11:38 PM EST up reply actions
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But I see that happening more around the trade deadline at end of July if it does.
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More of a reason to wait until he hits free agency on our part. They really have no incentive to take him now. They have three options, to get Haul A, by trading him now, Haul B by trading him at the deadline or Haul C by letting him walk at the end of next season.
Haul A would be large but you’re telling your fanbase that despite last season’s hope, you’re rebuilding. Also may be diminished due to his surgery.
Haul B would be pretty good too but not as big but also tells your fanbase, “hey, we tried this season but it isn’t looking good.”
Haul C is draft picks, still a valuable commodity. Haul C also includes revenue from a potential playoff run involved as well which can’t be ignored which could make it more valuable than Hauls A or B.
No matter what they do, they’re going to get reimbursed fine for Gonzalez. They almost made the playoffs this year, they’ve got a shot next year and for a team that doesn’t have the resources to make a playoff run every year, these shots aren’t too often and if I were them, I’d take the shot. Hold him at least until the trade deadline a time where A) Adrian can show his health and rebuilt value and B) can evaluate whether or not you have a shot this year. If they’re winning the division, hold onto him, play out the season and pocket the picks. If they don’t really have a chance, trade him and be happy with the big haul you just got for him.
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Haul B - July Trade
Due to the whacky nature of the NL West, there is a good chance the Padres will be very much in contention in July, making it more politically difficult to trade A-Gon then.
that's right
that’s why the priest’s were/are trying to move him before the season
if something went wrong with the surgery, or whatever, and he missed 2011 or was a bum because off rehabbing, SD would get haul C, nothing!
Someone would sign him
And they would get their draft picks. Still something. Haul C.
Being in contention in July is a reason to keep A Gonz, not trade him.
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Type-A and B are based on the last two years.
Would A-Gon dodge Type-B status after missing a whole season?
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by Ben Buchanan on Nov 19, 2010 6:57 PM EST up reply actions
Go all in for Upton
Get a stop gap @ 1B this winter until Gonzo is a FA
Take the picks from Beltre/Martinez, and that’s how you replace the pieces you lose in a deal for Upton.
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How long does Youk last at 3B, though?
Gonzo is a long-term investment, and we don’t necessarily have a replacement 3B coming through the system. Though we would have guys like Lars/Rizzo to trade, now we’ll be clearly “in need” of a deal, coming from a position of weakness.
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by Ben Buchanan on Nov 17, 2010 8:36 PM EST up reply actions
I think he would last long enough at 3rd, where you could figure something out after 2-3 years or so.
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why when you could give Beltre 5 and you have figured the next 4 years out
And, Sox will not be the only team in hard for AGon when he is a FA no garauntee that he would sign in Boston
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But they probably have the resources to get him.
Yankees are locked into a 1B/DH combo for about 5 years in the near future since A-Rod will eventually have to move.
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by Ben Buchanan on Nov 18, 2010 1:32 AM EST up reply actions
I agree but I also think several teams Braves, Nats, Mets, maybe Cubs? come to mind as all in with the resources too
I am high on AGon; but, with Youk and Beltre AGon becomes a luxury not a necessity.
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Question
Has the idea of reacquiring Adam LaRoche to serve as a stopgap (like Marco Scutaro this past year) been debated on elsewhere on the site?
It seems like every that passes the idea of A-Gon seems worse and worse. First it was the prospect haul in a trade, then the cost of an extension; now he’s had labrum work and won’t be able to start swinging supposedly until Spring Training.
For all we now he can come back and mash next year, too. But I’ll go with Sandy’s comment below- of we can figure out a decent patch for the next 2-3 years, let’s use what we got.
by Christopher B on Nov 18, 2010 12:06 AM EST up reply actions
I agree, I expect there'd be a stopgap to the big 1B FA market.
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by Ben Buchanan on Nov 18, 2010 12:08 AM EST up reply actions
Sorry
I was replying to Ben’s post and thought it would go above Sandy’s, to clarifly the last sentence of mine.
by Christopher B on Nov 18, 2010 12:08 AM EST up reply actions
That is a decent option
While the 3B FA class is extremely thin, the 1B class offer more options. The real question is which player on the 1B list will accept a 1 year deal, like a Beltre plan. I would be happy to bring in Berkman, Lee, Overbay, etc. for a stopgap and be positioned to make a move for A-Gon, Pujols, Fielder within the next 12 months. If this is the way the Sox are thinking, they should try to wrap up V-Mart quickly, before Beltre signs and before they make a move at 1B. I would not be on board for starting the season with a LoRoche or Overbay at 1B and Saltilamacchia at C.
I love this plan.
It makes both Lars and Rizzo expendable pieces that can be flipped for Upton and maybe a catcher like Soto or Ianetta. If we can hold onto one of Reddick or Kalish to play LF and manage to keep Ellsbury/sign a center fielder/sign a left fielder and move the youngster to center then we have a great young team locked up for several years. The rotation would be locked up for years except the 5th spot, and there wouldn’t be many pieces to replace.
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by TheLoneDavid on Nov 18, 2010 12:37 AM EST up reply actions
Another plan
What about making a move for Dunn at 1B? He is the best overall 1B on the FA list in my opinion. He could play more DH after 2011 when Papi is gone. I don’t really think this will happen, but it could work.
Dunn cannot be allowed to play in the field ever, ever, ever.
I’ve said this before, but I’ll say it again: You look at that bat, and you think “Well, hell, he’s a first baseman! His defense can’t be THAT bad!”
Except that it is. It’s all that and worse. He is likely the single worst defender of the modern day. We’d likely be better off giving Ortiz a glove and sending him into the field after showing him a “highlight reel” of Dunn to make him realize how dire the situation is.
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by Ben Buchanan on Nov 18, 2010 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
I don't really want Dunn at all.
Even as the DH, I feel like he’s going to decline fairly quickly. With Gonzalez we have possibly the #2 and #3 first basemen in the game (absolutely in the top five, it depends on how you rank them after Pujols, I feel like, when Morneau is healthy he’s better than Youk.) If Youkilis gets hurt, we can run A-Gon out to play first with no real loss in defense, or vice versa.
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by TheLoneDavid on Nov 18, 2010 8:19 PM EST up reply actions
Morneau is not better than Youk.
The only reason he had such great numbers this year was a .385 BABIP.
Morneau might just be one of the most overrated players in the league, really.
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by Ben Buchanan on Nov 19, 2010 12:06 AM EST up reply actions
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by Ben Buchanan on Nov 19, 2010 7:00 PM EST up reply actions
except the communist part
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by BoldandBrash on Nov 19, 2010 10:55 PM EST up reply actions
Ever since the Sox Management
saw Dunn in the field when the Sox play the Reds in Interleague play a couple years ago, they have been really down on Dunn.
by superferret on Nov 18, 2010 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
Personally, other than signing Beltre for a fair deal this is probably the 2nd best scenario
A non-competitor in the AL West. Only thing better would probably be a non-competitor in the NL west. If we can’t resign him please sign him Oakland!.
$13m per year for 4 years or $12m per for 5 years
wasn’t this something like what happened in the negotiations with johnny d and/or pedro.
if the sox want him, raise the ante.
who thought $52/4 would have closed the deal anyway?
this may have been a smart way to get another team to show their hand.
now the negotiations start
If true, good luck in Oakland or whoever offers a better contract
Slide Youk to 3B. Assuming he isn’t offered arbitration, sign DLee to a one year deal. Make a serious run at Gonzo (or Pujols if he hits free agency) in ’11.
Bad Moves
It is a bad move for the A’s if true. He probably struggle in their park, just like Bay struggles in NY and Beltre struggled in Seattle. Beane will regret the contract.
It is a bad move for Beltre if he accepts. His offense will plummet again. The A’s haven’t been very good for awhile. Their moves this offseason show they are trying to get better. But they have to play the Rangers 19 times. I don’t see him getting that elusive ring anytime soon.
The Sox don’t want to sign Beltre for 5 years at this point. We don’t want another long contract at 3rd with an older player.
Upton would probably be a bad move for the Red Sox. He frustrates the locals (I now live in AZ) with inconsistency. No telling how he’d react when the tough Fenway crowd lays into him.
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They can have him
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here is the Espn deportes article (my translation..
I will translate it paste the original article below that
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Oakland offers $ 64 million to Beltre
by Enrique Rojas, (to those playing at home, his name translates to Henry Reds)
The Oakland Athletics offered Domincan Free Agent Adrían Beltre a contract very similar that he signed previously with Seattle six years ago, A source close to the negotiation told ESPNDeportes.com..
Beltre earned $64 million dollars for five seasons from 2005 to 2009 with the Mariners.
“Oakland wants Beltre, It offered him basically the same type of agreement that he had in Seattle”, the source said. “Obviously the previous contract was six years when the Major Leagues had four billion less in earnings, (or profit), although the final number of the total/deal for Beltre could climb/rise”.
Beltre, 31 years old, had in 2010 the second best season in his career in the Big Leagues. batting average of .321 with 28 home runs, 49 doubles and 102 Runs Batted In with the Boston Red Sox.
His best year was in 2004, when he batted for average of .334 with 48 home runs, 32 doubles and 121 runs batted in with the Los Angeles Dodgers. This performance motivated the Marineres to pay him close to $13 million annually, who batted for .266, 20 home runs and 79 runs batted in the seasons during his stay in Seattle.
With the Red Sox, Beltre was selected for the first time for the All Star game, and obtained his second silver slugger award. The two time gold glove winner batted .275 with 278 home runs and 1.008 career OPS in 13 years in the Big Leagues..
Oakland le ofrece $64 millones a Beltré
Por Enrique Rojas
ESPNdeportes.com
ORLANDO — Los Atléticos de Oakland ofrecieron al agente libre dominicano Adrián Beltré un contrato muy parecido al que firmó el antesalista con Seattle hace seis años, dijo a ESPNdeportes.com una fuente cercana a las negociaciones.
Beltré devengó $64 millones por cinco temporadas, de 2005 a 2009, con los Marineros.
Beltré
“Oakland quiere a Beltré y le ofreció básicamente el mismo tipo de acuerdo que tuvo en Seattle”, dijo la fuente. “Obviamente, el contrato anterior fue hace seis años, cuando las Grandes Ligas tuvieron cuatro (mil millones) menos en ganancias, por lo que el número final del total de Beltré aún podría subir”.
Beltré, de 31 años, tuvo en el 2010 la segunda mejor actuación de su carrera en Grandes Ligas, al batear para promedio de .321 con 28 jonrones, 49 dobles y 102 impulsadas con los Medias Rojas de Boston.
Su mejor año fue el 2004, cuando bateó para promedio de .334 con 48 jonrones, 32 dobles y 121 remolques con los Dodgers de Los Ángeles. Esa actuación motivó a los Marineros a pagarle cerca de $13 millones anuales a Beltré, quien bateó para .266 y promedió 20 jonrones y 79 impulsadas por campaña durante su estadía en Seattle.
Con los Medias Rojas, Beltré fue convocado por primera vez al Juego de Estrellas y obtuvo su segundo Bate de Plata. El dos veces ganador del Guante de Oro batea .275 con 278 cuadrangulares y 1.008 carreras empujadas en 13 años en Grandes Ligas.
My guess who is the source..
Only one person talks about like this
“Obviously the previous contract was six years when the Major Leagues had four billion less in earnings, (or profit), although the final number of the total/deal for Beltre could climb/rise".
That is Boras. he could be trying to up the bids for Beltre.
by superferret on Nov 17, 2010 11:58 PM EST up reply actions
Sounds like he (if it is indeed Boras) is saying
That baseball has more money now than it did back then, so Beltre’s contract now should be bigger than it was before.
Hmmm… Something in that logic seems fishy to me…
I can't help but notice that the article says millions, not billions, I believe.
When talking about the $4 million difference.
Uh…
He’s bascially talking about the $4 million difference between $13 million per year and the A’s supposed $9 million offer, isn’t he?
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by Ben Buchanan on Nov 18, 2010 12:05 AM EST up reply actions
Which would mean that he's not reporting a new 5/64 deal, but talking about the old 5/64 and new 5/45 offer.
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by Ben Buchanan on Nov 18, 2010 12:06 AM EST up reply actions
Oh, nevermind, mil milones.
Ignore me please.
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by Ben Buchanan on Nov 18, 2010 12:07 AM EST up reply actions
happens to the best of us..
Don’t worry, I did a double take as wel..
by superferret on Nov 18, 2010 12:18 AM EST up reply actions
I am guessing..
That Boras wants Oakland to accept some sort of incentive laden deal, with the same layout as the Seattle Deal, which of course Boras set up…
by superferret on Nov 18, 2010 12:15 AM EST up reply actions
here
“cuando las Grandes Ligas tuvieron cuatro (mil millones) menos en ganancias”
When the big (major) leagues had four (thousand million) less in earnings/profits (ganancias could mean earnings or profits), I am guessing earnings, ganar= to earn)
Many countries don’t like using “Billions” so the thousand million is used,
I read enough of Boras and some of his Winter Meeting presentations, that he kind of talks like this, to push the envelope for contracts.
by superferret on Nov 18, 2010 12:13 AM EST up reply actions
I don't see the Sox as serious contenders here
The more I think about it and read the reports and BS rumors, the more I believe the Red Sox will not be very serious players in the Beltre talks. This is a planted story that the A’s cannot confirm or deny due to new rules limiting the comments teams can make because of collusion fears. Beltre wants to go back west. Realistically, the Angels are the only team, and a team in need, out west that can give Beltre the money he is seeking. Boras is planting a story about another AL West team making a big offer. Pretty obvious to me.
I still say the Angels sign him. They need a bat or two. Beltre will come cheaper than Crawford, another rumored Angels target.

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