What if: the Sox had re-signed Jason Bay?
With all the injury issues that plagued the Boston Red Sox this year, perhaps nothing wreaked more havoc on the roster than the outfield woes which deprived the team of the services of Jacoby Ellsbury and Mike Cameron for most of the year, leaving them instead to fill the void with a seemingly endless cavalcade of part-timers. Instead of having one of the best all-around defenders in Cameron and speedster extraordinare Ellsbury, left and center field were patrolled by the likes of Bill Hall, Darnell McDonald, Daniel Nava, Josh Reddick, and Ryan Kalish.
Although at times it seemed like the Sox could have more easily avoided the comedy of errors that occasionally passed for its outfield by hiring random beer-imbibing fans from the bleachers, there was an option that many Sox fans were clamoring for the previous off-season: Jason Bay. After all, this was the guy that hit 36 HR with 119 RBI and a robust 0.921 OPS, and even flashed a bit of speed with 13 swipes in 16 chances. Okay, sure, his bat disappeared for most of June and July, but all the signs were that he would patrol the Sox’s left field for the next few years. It later surfaced, of course, that the Sox rescinded the original offer once doubts were raised about Bay’s knees to survive a four-year contract. The Sox then reduced the deal to two years, after which Bay secured the four-year, $66 million deal he was looking for with the Mets.
Of course, Bay's deal meant trading the tasty Green Monster, over which many a tater destined for the parking lot or possibly New Hampshire was launched, for the less hitter-friendly confines of Citi Field (the less failtastic of the new Big Apple ballparks). When the deal was first announced, many of us in Red Sox nation assumed that Bay's statistics would suffer as a result. However, with all the injury woes, the thought might have occurred that re-signing Bay could have been a potential solution, although this plan also requires the assumption that he wouldn't be broken by Adrian Beltre.
So let's take a ride in the "What If" machine and find out what could have been if Boston continued to be the new Bay area.
Let’s start with Bay’s line from 2009:
| Games | PA | AB | R | RBI | H | 2B | 3B | HR | BB | SO | AVG | OBP | SLG | OPS |
| 151 | 638 | 531 | 103 | 119 | 142 | 29 | 3 | 36 | 94 | 162 | .267 | .384 | .537 | .921 |
A thing of beauty, that. While there might be a touch too many strikeouts, you'll probably take it in exchange for an OBP of almost .400, right? But let’s hold off on drilling down for a moment. Next, let’s look at Bay’s line from 2010:
| Games | PA | AB | R | RBI | H | 2B | 3B | HR | BB | SO | AVG | OBP | SLG | OPS |
| 95 | 401 | 348 | 48 | 47 | 90 | 20 | 6 | 6 | 44 | 91 | .259 | .347 | .402 | .749 |
At this point, I wouldn’t blame you if you responded like this:
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But the most distressing number is the games played count—just 95 games out of 162. How did that happen? After all, Bay is notorious for playing through conditions when most other players would have opted to take the day off. (As noted by Terry Francona, Bay has a stubbornness streak that makes Monte Python's Black Knight and Boxer from Animal Farm look like slackers.) So, what kept Bay out of the lineup for so long? Well, it seems that in late July the injury bug that decimated the 2010 Red Sox got as bored as a MMA fan watching a Jane Austen adaptation, and decided to start taking out members of the 2009 Red Sox just for kicks. Bay ran into a wall at Dodger Stadium trying to run down a fly ball, suffering a whiplash-induced concussion. Although he finished out the series, he developed symptoms while flying out of town, and didn't return to the field in 2010.
But what about all those other drops: HR’s down from 36 to just 6, walks down about 25%, and OPS down from .921 to a pedestrian 0.749, with both "O" and "S" taking hits. Is that just the cavernous dimensions of Citi Field coming back to haunt the Mets? Well, not really. Something else was at work here. Here are Bay’s spray charts from 2009 and 2010.
Notice anything missing in that second chart? Like all those pretty green boxes outside of the diagram, representing all the HR's to left? Yeah, it's awfully hard to miss. So it looks like Bay’s power to left field—his primary HR source in 2009—more or less vanished throughout all of 2010. It didn’t matter a whit that Citi Field’s left field is bigger than Fenway; he wasn’t hitting the balls hard enough to left to get them out even at Fenway. My working hypothesis is that Bay was playing hurt in 2010. Moreover, I suspect that this was a problem that plagued him for part of 2009 as well. Look at his spray chart for the months of June and July that year:
Notice once more the almost total lack of power to reach deep left, while line drives seem to be more or less unaffected. Even if we assume that the concussion wouldn’t have happened if he had played for the Sox in 2010, and he had managed to play almost a full season, the Sox would not have gotten the 2009 edition of Jason Bay, Instead, we would have gotten a player eerily reminiscent of this:
| Games | PA | AB | R | RBI | H | 2B | 3B | HR | BB | SO | AVG | OBP | SLG | OPS |
| 81 | 306 | 260 | 34 | 46 | 67 | 25 | 3 | 2 | 35 | 68 | .258 | .339 | .400 | .739 |
While you can get away with this kind of production if you're a shortstop making league minimum or a combination of rookies and role-players, it’s really not acceptable value from a guy with a $66 million contract who also happens to be a weak defensive LF.
Ultimately, this is another example of the best deal being the one not made: I don’t think the Sox’s fortunes would have improved much with Bay in lieu of Cameron. While there might have been more stability in the roster, there wouldn’t have been a huge overall jump in production.
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Most on this site, like myself believed bringing back Bay was a mistake.
We were all right.
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But not for the reasons everyone thought.
I don’t know how many people would have said “his offense will drop off a cliff in 2010.” I think the thought was that he might not hold up for a four-year deal, or that his defense wasn’t good enough. But that he’d repeat June and July 2009 for all of 2010? I’d be interested to see how popular an opinion that was.
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But they are on in the same
his offense fell off a cliff in 2010, because he was hurt, as you suggested.
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I know what would have happened had we brought back Bay
He would have missed most of the season due to broken ribs.
Nah, just kidding, he didn’t have enough range in the outfield to make it to beltre.
by wolf9309 on Nov 14, 2010 12:58 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Love the MMA - Austen line
“It is a truth universally acknowledged that a single man in possession of a good fortune, must be in want of a SMACKDOWN.”
It’s a good thing that Bay didn’t have a great season, otherwise Theo would be pilloried for not bringing him back.
Adrian Beltre is why we can't have healthy outfielders.
I was hoping someone would catch that.
Now I get to post this YouTube link.
Smackdown. Heh heh.
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Bay Was Cooked
He was on the DL for good portions of the reason was he not? Plus even when he was playing, his offensive output suffered due to his injury and it showed.
Good thing he wasn’t brought back; I remember saying we should but only for 2-3 years. Looks like even that would have been too much.
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I believe he just went on the disabled list because of that concussion he suffered
and stayed out most of the season because of it.
I might be wrong, that’s my recollection. So not something that was affecting his awful output before that happened.
That's what it was
Didn’t he come back during the year though?
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He didn't
His last game was the finale of the series against the Dodgers in late July, two games after when the concussion occurred.
And his DL stint was unrelated to whatever other injury, such as the one I posit he may have been hiding in June and July of last year, and may have recurred this year.
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It is tough predicting the future...
I think most people here were leery of having Bay here locked in for four more years, when they wanted more runs prevention defense, and better outfield defense. It isn’t that Bay was bad, he was okay. He came in on short notice to fix the Manny situation, he is a great fastball hitter, like the ball he walloped off Mariano in 2009..
I think Bay will recover somewhat in 2011, but I just don’t think people wanted the Sox to weigh down by a contract for a player as his stats start to decline along with his defensive play.
Pedro Martinez’s contract with the Mets in perspective was a bad deal, he was hurt a couple of seasons. Even if the Sox resign Petey for three years, it would had been a bad deal, and they would got only one good season out of three. Both Bay and Pedro had some apparent pre existing injury problems.
For GMs, there is a part where they have to be gamblers, but other parts, where they have to be MBAs and seriously weigh risk management in their decisions. I think the decision to re-sign Bay fell more into Risk Management decisions.
Canadian though he may be
I was always glad when he walked. I just never really took to him. He always felt like “anti-Manny”. Don’t worry…we got rid of that dreadlocked flake and got you Mr. Super Cleancut!
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It’s way too simplistic to overlay Bay’s 2010stats over 2009. Who knows what would have happened if he had stayed in Boston.
Also, he probably would have made a good DH after 2 years of his 4 year contract replacing Ortiz after this year.

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