Red Sox Trade Dustin Richardson To Marlins For Andrew Miller
by Ben Buchanan on Nov 12, 2010 6:23 PM EST
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PrintThe Red Sox have exchanged left-handed pitchers with the Marlins, sending reliever Dustin Richardson to Florida in exchange for Andrew Miller. Marlins beat writer Juan C. Rodriguez seems to have fired the first tweet.
Miller, the sixth overall pick in the 2006 draft by the Detroit Tigers, was part of the Miguel Cabrera and Dontrelle Willis trade in late 2007. Since then, he's been plagued by injuries and control problems. Last year, he struggled in Double-A for the Marlins, putting up a 6.01 ERA in 85 innings, walking 61 while striking out only 66. He fared significantly worse in the majors, with an 8.54 ERA and a 28:26 K:BB ratio.
Richardson, fresh off of a breakout season in 2009, came into the year looking like a contender for a spot in the Red Sox' bullpen. While he would eventually get that shot, and posted a decent 4.15 ERA, his 14 walks in 13 innings were indicative of the walk issues he'd been facing in Triple-A.
Miller has primarily started during his career, making 54 starts in the majors. He features a low-90s fastball to go with a changeup and slider, neither of which has really proved to be a major league ready pitch-though the slider was grading out as a plus pitch when he was drafted.
It seems like this was a matter of potential for the Red Sox. While at 25 Miller is fast running out of time to prove himself, he's still a sixth overall pick, and a project for Curt Young to work on during spring training. Richardson wasn't likely to crack the bullpen out of spring training, and probably didn't have much beyond a middle/long relief ceiling. It's not a deal that's likely to pay off, but apparently the Sox thought a roll of the dice was worth giving up Richardson.
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little risk, Richardson is not good either.
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No option years left.
If Miller doesn’t make the 25 man roster, he has to pass through waivers.
Richardson will have 1 option year remaining to start 2011.
Welcome to Fenway Andrew.
Go to work Curt Young. Lefty helping the lefty.
If he's not on the 25-man to begin with, he doesn't have to pass waivers.
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by Ben Buchanan on Nov 12, 2010 6:52 PM EST up reply actions
But it wouldn't be sending him down...
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by Ben Buchanan on Nov 12, 2010 6:54 PM EST up reply actions
Of course, this is a non-issue
Since there’s no way they’re paying him arb money if he doesn’t make the team out of ST.
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by Ben Buchanan on Nov 12, 2010 6:57 PM EST up reply actions
well if he's on the 40 man and doesn't have options
then he has to be on the 25 man. Right? Or am I going crazy?
That's how I see it.
Miller has to make the team out of camp. I believe that’s one of the reasons the Marlins gave up on him. They have the option to hide Richardson in AAA for another year but not Miller.
I'll put money down
that says he either makes the team or comes down with some shoulder soreness requiring some extended ST/rehab.
Manny ain't the only bad man.
That only buys you some time.
I vote that the FO finally catches lightening in a bottle and after Miller wins the Cy Young Award, he shits wooden nickles all the way to Foxwoods.
So I’ll take, he makes the team.
This kid was the best in America. Detroit rushed him to the show.
If I recall
It was in his contract that he had to be called up when the rosters expanded the year he was drafted
I think it burned an option for that year and made him arb eligiable a year earlier
For all the good it did him
What is our in with the Marlins?
Hermida, Lowell, Beckett and now this guy. Quite a bit from one place. Let’s hope he’s better than Hermida.
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Sure, why not
perfectly content to not see Richardson any more. I’ll be surprised if Miller makes the team but it’s worth a shot.
we gave up nothing for what is most likely nothing
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I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on Nov 12, 2010 7:04 PM EST up reply actions
He outpitched Bard at UNC their final year.
Low risk move that provides higher potential ceiling. I like that philosophy.
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Eh…. I never liked Miller. But like you said, nothing for nothing.
Expect nothing.
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by Marisa Ingemi on Nov 12, 2010 7:11 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Interesting Transaction
I’m guessing they felt that Richardson didn’t have a future in the Sox pen but Miller might. Let’s see what Curt Young can do with him this spring.
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Also, note to Theo:
This does NOT qualify as “fixing the bullpen” so don’t even start thinking it.
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It does make me think
that they’ll pass on other lefty options. Going with Okhajima as their top lefty, Miller competing for a 2nd spot with Hill and Doubront as other options. Therefore I see Downs off their X-Mas wishlist, focusing on righty pen arms (ex: Putz).
Okajima shouldn't be on the team
Start with Atchinson, Bard, Doubront and, if they have to bring him back, Papelbon. Totally rebuild the pen after that and not in the fashion they did last year. Of all those guys we threw at the hole, what, Atchinson was the only one who stayed.
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I would have agreed with you in August
But Okajma had a strong September so I’m willing to give him one more year.
I’m on the fence with Papelbon. Short of signing Soriano, I prefer to keep him, let him walk next year, pocket the picks and hand the role over to Bard. For ’11, go with a 7 man pen starting with Paps, Bard, Okajima, Atchinson and Wakefield. Sign one (Putz), maybe 2 (Qualls?) or hand the final spot over to one of MIller, Hill or Doubront.
Okajima has not bought another year
A 3.93 xFIP in Sept-Aug doesn’t really do a whole lot for me considering the whole body of his work. With Bard it’s pretty easy to point out workload as a reason for decline at the end of the season. Okajima? He blew all year. He did nothing with his innings except create regret. Ship him off.
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He'll use it as an excuse, I'm sure
This guy won’t help. Depth for when Kris Johnson finally gets released.
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by Marisa Ingemi on Nov 13, 2010 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
Oh, really? No options left?
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by Marisa Ingemi on Nov 13, 2010 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
+1
Love to see my Heels gathering on my favorite team.
by The Herndon Kid on Nov 13, 2010 9:24 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Curt Young must work with Miller toward having a consistent release point
Look at how his release point has changed 2008-2010:
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Resulting in him missing the plate all to often.
2010 games after September call up from AA Jacksonville:
We had data. Don't know where it went.
Ben, could you remove this useless chart. All the pitches have disappeared. Odd.
Thanks.
haha honestly,I thought that was on purpose
as in he didn’t throw any called strikes. It was wayyyyy funnier that way.
It was up with data for a few days
then the data part disappeared. Is it maybe a Texasleaguer.com thing? Maybe the link didn’t hold. It shows where Miller was missing the plate and it is related to finding his release point.
I’ll try again and see if it holds the data this time. If not, I’m entering it wrong.
I also have a question on using the “blockquote” How do you continue to write after using the quote and not have the additional type become part of the quote? How do you close the quote? Thanks
No Data Found
< blockquote>< / blockquote > Whatever you want to quote, goes between the two blockquotes. Remove the spaces.
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Here's a quick link to Andrew Miller in the Cape Cod League.
Miller won the Cape Cod League Player of the Summer in 2005. His coach, John Schiffner of the Chatham A’s (now the Chatham Anglers), tells a few fun stories about Andrew Miller. Miller talks about needing to work on his control.
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god please NO! i am on yahoo and some guy said they are talking ! :-(
by RED SOX are #1 in my heart on Nov 13, 2010 3:40 PM EST reply actions
I avoid Yahoo
They don’t know a whole lot, if it isn’t on MLBTR it probably isn’t happening.
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"Some Guy?"
Probably one of the idiot comments right? And even then sometimes their bloggers have no freaking clue WTF is going on so they just make crap up.
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"This kid was the best in America. Detroit rushed him to the show."
Courtesy of went9 from earlier in the thread.
I couldn’t have said it better myself. Miller was absolutely nasty back in college and when he did make it up to the big leagues there were certainly flashes of his potential, but Detroit certainly rushed him up for sure.
If he does make the roster and does well, it’ll be a sweet deal. This is a really low-risk, very high payoff move and I certainly love it.
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it would just be great if he had one more option year so we could see if our development staff could help him
but it would be great if he can harness his control for an inning at a time
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