John Farrell Will Manage Blue Jays, Red Sox Confirm
by Ben Buchanan on Oct 24, 2010 7:31 PM EDT
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PrintRed Sox owner John Henry has confirmed that John Farrell will be going to Toronto to manage the Blue Jays in an e-mail to the Boston Globe.
"The Jays are getting a great baseball man and a great person,’’ Henry wrote in an e-mail to the Globe. "We were able to keep John as a part of our organization longer than a couple of other teams would have wanted, but it really is time for John to step up to the next level.
"He will be an effective, excellent manager. I expect him to manage in MLB for as long as he wants to. He’s going to an excellent young team with a strong and smart hierarchy. The Blue Jays are going to be a force in the AL East for some time to come. I am grateful for the years John Farrell gave to the Red Sox. He will be missed.’’
It's pretty much been a given that Farrell was going to get the job since Thursday, when Peter Gammons reported that he was the Blue Jays' choice, but this is the first official confirmation.
Good luck to Farrell in his new postion. Or at least good enough luck to beat the Rays and Yankees with regularity.
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I heard we might get that Oakland guy.
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I think just speculation based on the timing of him announcing he wouldn't be back with the A's
Makes a lot of sense though. Could be cool, I think he has a pretty good reputation and he’s done pretty well with the pitchers they have there.
i read that too
just speculation, as you wrote
there is also speculation he will go to the diamondbacks
Sox/Jays
Well, I for one think we will be better with a new pitching coach.
But, I also wish they’d taken the 3rd base coach.
Good thing I'm not a team owner
I’m not so gracious.
“Well I hope you suck balls in Toronto douche-bag” would have been my message, my whole message.
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I'm interested to see what effect a new pitching coach
will have on this staff. Might be what it needs.
Galactus does as he pleases. Because Galactus is drunk.
@#$%ing Twit: @blogtard
I know what you're thinking...
… he’ll show up, invite the entire staff to dinner, and pull an “Untouchables” on Lackey (i.e. beating him to death with a baseball bat) to shake the rest of the pitchers up.
And yeah, basically, I hope so too…
Wait 'til next/this year?
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by nuthinboutnuthin on Oct 25, 2010 2:22 AM EDT up reply actions
More importantly
Who are we going to get as a new pitching coach? I am excited to get some fresh blood there.
Maybe
Maybe the new pitching coach will help John Lester improve his April starts.
I don't really mind Lester's bad Aprils
As long as he keeps dominating in all the other months. I mean, yeah it’d be great for him to be lights out all year, but it’s not like his year-end numbers are anything to complain about.
I think if Lester didn't have a bad final game...
he would had been second in Cy Young Award voting after Hernandez.
I just read that the MFYs have fired their Pitching coach, so it will interesting if they and the Sox battle for Curt Young to be pitching coach.
what does a pitching caoch do?
“ok, stand on the mound and do your thing’?
i sure hope a guy getting $15m a year, or whatever obscene sum, doesn’t need a pitching coach. – especially with all of the film etc so a pitcher can see for himself what is breaking down.
a pitching coach in the minors would seem a more important position to fill with a good coach.
it concerns me that theo has said the sox minor league coaching candidates for promotion, is slim.
Examples of what??
A pitching coach doing more than saying “stand on the mound and face home plate”?
How about this as an example: every single MLB team has a pitching coach and pays them a healthy chunk of cash.
There are nuances to pitching. And a person who is in the middle of doing something negative can’t always diagnose that for himself. It’s like he needs something else. Like…an outside perspective.
That person is a pitching coach.
Galactus does as he pleases. Because Galactus is drunk.
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You should apply.
I bet you’d be AWESOME.
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by Bloggy on Oct 25, 2010 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
there's a bit more to it than that
Consider what Dave Duncan has done for the Cardinals, or what Leo Mazzone used to do for the Braves.
coinkydink
coincidence.
the single item relating to coaching in all sports is that all good coaches had good players.
baseball coaching is over rated
Farrell is officially going North.
Now, who do you really predict will replace Farrell as the Sox pitching coach?
Also, who from the Red Sox system might Farrell offer positions to in Toronto?
He may keep Toronto pitching coach, Bruce Walton or he may want to bring in his own guy. Does he try to take a guy like Mike Cather North with him? Or pitching coach Rich Sauveur from Pawtucket?
Or does he ask Anthopoulos (GM) to make an offer to Jason Varitek to catch for Toronto and help Toronto with all their young pitching depth?
Do they offer more $$ to Gary Tuck to go North with Farrell? I’m sure Farrell has some guys in mind from all his years in the Cleveland system.
And no, Tim Bogar is not going North. Forget that wish. But he may get moved away from third in the coaching shuffle.
Here’s a good active link of all the pitching coaches from all 30 teams. Click their names for more details of the coaches bio’s. Coaches link
Any team hiring a new manager may want him to bring in his own coaches, so the Marlins, Brewers, Mariners, Mets, and Pirates pitching coaches may become available. You’ve mentioned Curt Young from Oakland as someone to invite to an interview. Rick Peterson from the Brewers is another logical choice for an interview.
El Tiante is a bit to old;-) Anyone else to add the interview list?
Rick Adair is looking for work.
He was let go from Seattle when the FO fired their manager, Don Wakamatsu mid season.
Adair put in his years in the minors as a pitching coach. Also, four years as the Braves minor league pitching coordinator and four years as the Rangers minor league pitching coordinator. He’s from a pitching family.
Adair is the nephew of former big leaguer Art Fowler and a cousin to Wayne Tolleson and Mike Tolleson. He is the father of Travis Adair.
He coached King Felix but I guess that’s an easy job.
Not necessarily
Felix had a lot of growing pains when he came into the league. I mean, he had electric stuff, but he was really immature and kind of a head case on the mound (not unlike many young guys). 2010 was his fifth full year in MLB, but it’s only been the last 2 or 3 years where he’s become dominant.
I don’t know if Adair was there for those years, or even how much he contributed to Felix’s development.
Adair is not high on my short list
because of the way they handled Brandon Morrow when he was with Seattle. They yanked his chain much like NY did with Joba as a young prospect and set his development back a bit.
How much of this was Adair’s fault and how much was the doings of the Seattle FO, I don’t know. That’s why I’d at least put him on the list of people to call and talk to.
I was joking about Felix being an easy job. Even the superstars need guidance and supervision. What these pitchers do is not easy or natural. TV makes it look easy but it’s far from the truth.
We'll need to wait and see who the Brewers pick to be their manager for 2010.
Keeping Peterson as the Brewers pitching coach would be talked about during the interview process with Doug Melvin (GM) and manager candidates. Unless the new manager as strong feelings toward a pitching coach replacement, they may not rock the boat the first year. The Sox could ask the Brewers for permission to talk to Peterson. If they would be offering a multi year contract, he may want to listen and that would free up the Brewers from the year they have committed to.
I'm not familiar with Peterson
But why would he be a good choice? It’s not like MIL has been churning out great pitching the last few years. Yeah, Gallardo is an ace, but I’m not sure I want a pitching coach who has the likes of Dave Bush on his resume.
Granted, I’m not a Brewers fan, so I could be missing things. Anyone care to enlighten me on why this would be a good choice?
Peterson was with Oakland
as PC when Mark Mulder, Tim Hudson, and Barry Zito each won twenty games and he studied under James Andrews.
His business that still exists
has Andrews as a partner or consultant. The Brewers do that biometric evaluation with the reflective dots including on minor league pitchers and I’ve heard Andrews name mentioned with that also.
Dave Bush is pretty much the same pitcher he has always been. I assume he was the same when he was with Toronto.
Manny to join Johnny?
During John’s interview on Toronto’s Fan 590 – the interviewed mentioned that Manny had JUST THAT MOMENT announced he’d like to play for John on the Jays. John was almost giddy – calling Manny the best right handed hitter of his generation – if not ever. He felt Manny was a fanatic about staying in shape and that Manny had just had surgery to repair a sports hernia he had played since May. Manny and Bautista – any chance they’ve “Papi and Manny Two”?
Manny – Bautista both with over 385 OBP and 550 to 600 SLG, not to mention between 25 and 35 homers from each of: – Snider – Wells – Lind -Hill – Arencibia – Encarnacion – YIKES.
Not to mention their four young stud starters with Drabek and Stewart both ready for prime time too. DOUBLE YIKES!
that could be scary
though those are the Manny power numbers of old, and I doubt all those guys are gonna have quite that much power considering only Bautista, Wells, and Hill hit as many as 25 in 2010… though it would be scary
I don't think Manny is the terror that he once was at the plate..
If he plays this year, it will be at a greatly reduced rate. He also has had injury to pseudo injury issue with his last year with the Dodgers. I just see Manny ending up in Cleveland, or some other lowly team as a DH.
by superferret on Oct 26, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah I agree
though Toronto could well be that lowly team. I know Manny would want to do Cleveland, but Hafner’s stupid contract isn’t going anywhere. Manny will have to sign cheap with someone I’m pretty sure.
if he gets some under-the-radar roids - he'll be a problem
but if not, he wants big bucks (who doesn’t) probably in the neighborhood off $15m.
not worth it, unless a team needs some type of marketing draw.
under the radar roids – like the type a-roid had some canadian doctor bringing in but was caught at the border.
Not to mention that Hill and Lind had awful years
Snider is still a work in progress, and Encarnacion is the epitome of tantalizing upside without much results. The Jays COULD have a stacked lineup next year, but they could just as easily have another 4 or 5 guys batting under .250.
And yes, all of those young starters look very promising. Should be a solid rotation for years.
Cloninger will be part of the internal search
since he is still consulting for the Sox.
He qualifies to be the hitting coach too ;-)
Edes, Olney saying Curt Young is the current favorite and they're going to interview him
by South Coast Ghost on Oct 26, 2010 1:31 PM EDT reply actions
Seems to be tops on the FO short list.
Oakland’s starters did claim the lowest ERA in baseball last year.
He’s a Michigan boy. Born and raised. College ball at Central Michigan U.
This is the quote from Young that rang out to me
DL: All pitchers understand the value of first-pitch strikes, but many still struggle with the execution. How do you go about communicating the importance to them?
CY: We kind of have a different philosophy here. We’re more possessed on getting to the 0-2 count or 1-2 count, because we know that there are so many hitters who are aggressive early. Obviously, you like your guy in the 60-70 percentage range, first-pitch fastballs, but there are hitters who are such good first-pitch hitters that there are times you’re okay backing them off or missing with an off-speed pitch. Then you get back into the count at 1-1 with a fastball or a good down-and-away pitch. So our philosophy is getting to 0-2, 1-2, more than preaching the first-pitch strike.
curt young sounds like a strong possibility
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Toronto will be good
Not a World Series contender.
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by bestbostonsports on Oct 26, 2010 1:56 PM EDT reply actions
Toronto is a team on the rise!
not a world series contender yet; but definitely a much better team with John Farrell leading the way…I’ve read so many posts on John Farrell and everyone knows he’s a great baseball person who has the qualities of a manager. I’m really happy he took the manager’s job in Toronto.
sounds like the mfy will be in on curt young
The Yankees have fired pitching coach Dave Eiland, GM Brian Cashman told reporters today (Mark Feinsand of the New York Daily News seemingly tweeted it first). Cashman said his reasons for the dismissal are private.
Also:
* Cashman noted that the team’s option decisions on Kerry Wood, Lance Berkman, and Nick Johnson are “all pretty obvious,” implying that the three will be declined.
* SI’s Jon Heyman previews the Yankees’ offseason, guessing they’d gladly sign Cliff Lee for five years and $125MM if he’d take it. Instead, Lee could look for C.C. Sabathia money.
Way to keep it classy New York
Just read of on THIS.
That certainly can’t help any. Given our history with wives, they do have some control and right now Mrs. Lee isn’t too enamored with New York.
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Think Curt Schilling ends his broadcast career
to become pitching coach? :-P
David Ortiz 2010: 120 RBIs, 35+ HRs. Jason who?
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